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Ah that makes sense, thanks for the clarification. I don't tend to keep up with it on UK TV, always preferred the normal US version to Global Edition.
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Yeah, the Global edition doesn't work for me, I stopped watching it a few weeks after it was all that available. They edit it together in about five minutes so the cuts are always awful and jarring, but that's not as big a problem as the stuff they choose to put in it. It's less current affairs and John Stewart monologues which are the best parts of the Daily Show and more segments where someone goes and does a fake interview. I don't like any of the correspondants at all (even John Oliver who's great on the Bugle) because the all do this tongue-in-cheek persona but without being brave enough to be dry humour, and that was of delivery really grates on me.
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Jul 9, 2012 17:30
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What the gently caress is that 'Python' advert for 'BBC3 experimental comedy'? It's neither experimental nor comic, and I hate whichever smug cunts were involved in any part of its creation.
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Jul 9, 2012 17:30
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Adam Buxton is on the telly or sutin!
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Jul 9, 2012 21:34
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BizarroAzrael posted:Adam Buxton is on the telly or sutin! Was that his BUG thing on sky? Any good?
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Jul 9, 2012 22:09
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Brainwrong posted:When I heard that Alan Sugar and Richard Desmond were involved in YouView I immediately assumed that it's going to fail spectacularly I hear Sugar was plugging YouView during a speech in the Lords. Looks like his shameless plugging of his lovely products isn't limited to The Apprentice and Twitter!
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I just watched every episode of Episodes today, after the mentions of it in this thread... what a great show. I did laugh a lot more during the first series, but I still really enjoyed the second one, too. And despite looking forward to the Nigel Planer cameo, I completely forgot, and missed him the first time through, he looks so different! (I guess his pretty decent American accent helped to throw me off, too.) And he had the great line "Can I take off my lawyer hat for a minute? I'm talking to you as a friend... you're gonna need a much better lawyer. Cause the one you got... I don't know how the gently caress he's gonna get you out of this." thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jul 10, 2012 |
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Jul 10, 2012 22:11
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Captain Mediocre posted:Was that his BUG thing on sky? Any good?
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incredible bear posted:He does read a lot of youtube comments, so... I really enjoyed it but I honestly feel he could have done more to actually show off music videos, which was the opposite thought I had going into it. It's the kind of format that's really hard to cram into half an hour as well because as Count Buckles says it's like going round to a friends house and have him show you cool stuff, which is a great idea, it reminds me of those terrible list shows you always seen on e4 or bbc3, but if they were only half an hour long it'd be moot. If my friend and me only hung out for 12 minutes and the rest he was dancing around, introducing himself and going to advert breaks before saying goodbye I wouldn't call it a great night out. I sound too negative, I still laughed hard at it and it was really really good.
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Captain Mediocre posted:Was that his BUG thing on sky? Any good? V good but pretty short. His live shows are great; maybe I've been spoilt.
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Jul 11, 2012 01:11
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"Here's a thing we've seen on YouTube" is a plague of laziness on British TV right now. HIGNFY uses it like a crutch.
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^^People at work were watching Russell Howard's Good News and I was surprised to see that the show is pretty much just him reacting comically to things from YouTube for half an hour. And then there are several whole shows of just stuff from YouTube presented in a You've Been Framed format. I mean You've Been Framed worked because nobody in the 90s had a means of sharing their videos beyond the people they could invite to their living room to see them, provided they were posh enough to have a camcorder in the first place. Tarrant on TV worked for similar reasons: you got to see things broadcast in other countries. But in 2012? Showing videos from the Internet on television? What is the point of these shows? 
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Jul 11, 2012 02:55
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Bug kinda works though because it isn't about Adam Buxton going 'Here check this out have you seen dis loving dog saying I love you' but is instead an attempt to publicize music videos because the rise of the internet has pretty much moved the existence of music videos away from television where it's something not often shared. Unlike Russel Howard where it is literally 60% of the program where you've already seen the videos because that's how comedy or cute videos work, music videos as a creative or interesting force aren't really shared nearly as much. The whole point of Bug in the first place as a live performance was to treat the music videos as a creative force worth watching on a big screen as a night out. I guess that's why I think it doesn't work so much as a half hour time slot, because it genuinely does feel like going to a cool little performance gig but only being able to watch 1/5 of it every night.
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Is it my imagination or is Line of Duty getting sillier with each episode? Fleming just happens to get pulled onto desk duty exactly at the moments she's about to leave on a not very high speed car chase.
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Chumpion posted:The whole point of Bug in the first place as a live performance was to treat the music videos as a creative force worth watching on a big screen as a night out. I guess that's why I think it doesn't work so much as a half hour time slot, because it genuinely does feel like going to a cool little performance gig but only being able to watch 1/5 of it every night. I love Buxton and there are always a few interesting music videos getting made but I still don't really see the point in BUG.
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Irisi posted:Wish the BBC would get its act together when it comes to Wimbledon and the way it inevitably overruns. The Hollow Crown was first shoved to 9.15, then to 9.30, then the tennis announcer said it was cancelled, then he corrected that and said it was showing at 10.00 on BBC2. The Hollow Crown is the first bit of Shakespeare I've actually sat down and watched performed by professional actors (as opposed to being performed by schoolchildren or read aloud in english class) and I think I actually finally get why this stuff is considered to be good, something which utterly escaped me as a child. There has to be a better way of teaching these plays because they are really quite good but it definitely does not come across when teaching them consists of just reading them out loud from a playbook in class. I never thought I'd see the day when I was actually thought "this is hilarious!" when watching a shakespeare play about an English King but the stuff with Falstaff and Hal was amazingly good.
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Reveilled posted:The Hollow Crown is the first bit of Shakespeare I've actually sat down and watched performed by professional actors (as opposed to being performed by schoolchildren or read aloud in english class) and I think I actually finally get why this stuff is considered to be good, something which utterly escaped me as a child. There has to be a better way of teaching these plays because they are really quite good but it definitely does not come across when teaching them consists of just reading them out loud from a playbook in class. I've seen a lot of his plays, but never Henry IV, man Hal was kind of a dick. Now I'm very curious to see him transform into the St. Crispians day guy. Zythrst fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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Jul 11, 2012 15:43
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Reveilled posted:The Hollow Crown is the first bit of Shakespeare I've actually sat down and watched performed by professional actors (as opposed to being performed by schoolchildren or read aloud in english class) and I think I actually finally get why this stuff is considered to be good, something which utterly escaped me as a child. There has to be a better way of teaching these plays because they are really quite good but it definitely does not come across when teaching them consists of just reading them out loud from a playbook in class. It is the worst way possible to teach Shakespeare, or any dramatic work. If I had my way I'd confiscate all the texts and refuse to give them back until the kids had had a chance to actually see it performed by someone who knows what they're doing.
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Trin Tragula posted:It is the worst way possible to teach Shakespeare, or any dramatic work. If I had my way I'd confiscate all the texts and refuse to give them back until the kids had had a chance to actually see it performed by someone who knows what they're doing. Screw that  I derive infinate amounts more pleasure from reading a play than I do watching it on stage. Plus (especially with Shakespeare) you aren't subject to the whims of some director trying to do something new with it, which is a pointless exercise if you aren't familiar with the original text yet. I agree that its not taught in schools very well at all (although mine happened to be pretty good), but I disagree strongly with performance-enthusiasts in general who dismiss the written work. The play format is such an excellent and engaging way to structure a text, yet many people seem to view it as an inconvenient compromise or a tool for practicing a performance. These BBC adaptations are brilliant though. Captain Mediocre fucked around with this message at 18:35 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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Jul 11, 2012 18:29
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Captain Mediocre posted:I derive infinate amounts more pleasure from reading a play than I do watching it on stage. Plus (especially with Shakespeare) you aren't subject to the whims of some director trying to do something new with it, which is a pointless exercise if you aren't familiar with the original text yet. Do you read screenplays and TV scripts as well instead of watching the production? The whole point of a script is that it's performed and interpreted by actors and directors. That's what it's for. By all means have a look at the text so that your view of it isn't constrained by that one interpretation, but expecting kids to understand Shakespeare purely from the text and those Godawful reading-every-word-slowly-and-carefully classroom sessions is like giving a two-year-old a Dick King-Smith story and a Concise Oxford and expecting them to learn to read.
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Jul 11, 2012 18:47
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Trin Tragula posted:Do you read screenplays and TV scripts as well instead of watching the production? The whole point of a script is that it's performed and interpreted by actors and directors. That's what it's for. You're right insofar as I wouldn't advocate a solely textual approach in the classroom, but sidelining it just reinforces the idea that the written word is boring and irrelevant. As far as the analogy goes, TV show scripts aren't typically examples of some of the finest metered poetry produced in our language. I'd rather read Shakespeare than watch it for the same reason I'd rather read a poem than listen to someone else read it out. Why filter it through a third party when you can have direct access? The words themselves are the main attraction, not the action on stage or the inflection given to it by an actor (although this can be very elucidating and enjoyable). I'm sorry, I guess I'm not actually disagreeing with you because Shakespeare really isn't taught well in schools, I'm just being a bit pedantic in defence of reading plays. Apologies for my weird literary derail everyone else.
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Captain Mediocre posted:You're right insofar as I wouldn't advocate a solely textual approach in the classroom, but sidelining it just reinforces the idea that the written word is boring and irrelevant. The trouble is, Shakespeare looks like so much bullshit at first reading because it's so heavily stylised and unlike the language that we speak today. When I was at school my desperately average English class quite enjoyed Of Mice and Men, but didn't have a clue what the gently caress "hand to hand is holy palmer's kiss" was supposed to be about until the teacher brought in the video of Romeo+Juliet and suddenly it was all "OH RIGHT they're supposed to be flirting" once we had a chance to hear and see how the language actually works in the context of two people talking to each other; and then with that context it became a lot easier to get our heads round the text. There's got to be a reference point somewhere, else all you're left with is "tee hee, he said 'my naked weapon is out'".
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Zythrst posted:I've seen a lot of his plays, but never Henry IV, man Hal was kind of a dick. Now I'm very curious to see him transform into the St. Crispians day guy. Trin Tragula posted:The trouble is, Shakespeare looks like so much bullshit at first reading because it's so heavily stylised and unlike the language that we speak today. When I was at school my desperately average English class quite enjoyed Of Mice and Men, but didn't have a clue what the gently caress "hand to hand is holy palmer's kiss" was supposed to be about until the teacher brought in the video of Romeo+Juliet and suddenly it was all "OH RIGHT they're supposed to be flirting" once we had a chance to hear and see how the language actually works in the context of two people talking to each other; and then with that context it became a lot easier to get our heads round the text. I might be alone in this, but in English classes over the years I've done a few Shakespeare plays and I have also done the Canterbury Tales, and I found the language in the Miller's Tale easier to follow than I ever did a work of Shakespeare, because even though there are more unknown words and odd spellings in the Middle English, the grammar is simple enough that you can infer meaning from context quite easily. Whereas with the plays even though I understood what almost every individual word meant, the structure of the sentences and the metaphors made things very difficult for me. The essays I had to write on those plays were based purely on the teacher just telling us what the character were talking about rather than any actual understanding of the text. I don't have any particular issue with playbooks, and if I understand your position as being that any study of the works should start off with the class viewing a performance of the work in order to gain an understanding of what the play is about and how certain lines should be said to impart their actual meanings before sitting down to analyse the text then I'm in full agreement. Certainly I'd think these recent BBC versions would be good ones because they seem to play things relatively straight (though I do suspect there are a few liberties taken, given some scenes happening at the same time were intercut with one another which is something you do in movies but not in plays).
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Jul 11, 2012 21:39
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Thick of It news. Coalition! Public inquiry! http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jul/12/the-thick-of-it-leveson
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Junkenstein posted:Thick of It news. Coalition! Public inquiry! Black Mirror news. Dystopia! Complaints! http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2012/07/12/15757/another_look_in_the_black_mirror?rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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I'm trying to remember a kids TV show from the mid 90s. It was ITV or C4, it was about a man and a woman who lived in a cathedral type building, with a big circular bit in the middle (like a compass?) and they had a hot air balloon in the roof that they tried to take off with, but ended up crashing. Anyone remember it?
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Strom Cuzewon posted:I'm trying to remember a kids TV show from the mid 90s. It was ITV or C4, it was about a man and a woman who lived in a cathedral type building, with a big circular bit in the middle (like a compass?) and they had a hot air balloon in the roof that they tried to take off with, but ended up crashing. Alphabet Castle? Long shot, I barely remember it either, but..
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No, not that. This was much more gothic, or as much as any kids show would be. Something like The Rotten Trolls aesthetic maybe.
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yesssssssss http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-07-12/the-thick-of-it-series-four-heads-for-exciting-and-uncharted-territory-this-autumn-on-bbc2 Radio Times posted:The Thick of It series four heads for “exciting and uncharted territory” this autumn on BBC2
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Whoever is editing The Simpsons on C4 is doing a terrible job. I was watching earlier and Homer has to have his jaw wired shut. When he finds out he can't eat solid foods he sees a 'suicide machine' in the doctors office. Marge tries to stop him but he jumps in and injects himself which gives him a medicated smile on his face and it cuts to the next scene. I looked up the transcript and they cut this line out: Hibbert: Oh, don't worry. On a man his size, that just provides sexual release. But without that line it just looks like he's killing himself. Ridiculous.
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Koburn posted:Whoever is editing The Simpsons on C4 is doing a terrible job. I was watching earlier and Homer has to have his jaw wired shut. When he finds out he can't eat solid foods he sees a 'suicide machine' in the doctors office. Marge tries to stop him but he jumps in and injects himself which gives him a medicated smile on his face and it cuts to the next scene. I looked up the transcript and they cut this line out: Wait until you see the episode where you see the same events from three perspectives (the one with Linguo). It's cut down to two perspectives, so nothing makes any sense. Obligatory comment about "The one with the free porn" goes here.
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HoldYourFire posted:Obligatory comment about "The one with the free porn" goes here.
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HoldYourFire posted:Wait until you see the episode where you see the same events from three perspectives (the one with Linguo). It's cut down to two perspectives, so nothing makes any sense. Wait what? How do they do that? The channel 4 ones can't be that cut down surely? Regular episodes are 22 minutes and cutting out an entire 3rd act would make it about 16 tops, I'm going to have to see this sometime. That episode wasn't great but that would make it complete garbage.
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Koburn posted:Whoever is editing The Simpsons on C4 is doing a terrible job. I was watching earlier and Homer has to have his jaw wired shut. When he finds out he can't eat solid foods he sees a 'suicide machine' in the doctors office. Marge tries to stop him but he jumps in and injects himself which gives him a medicated smile on his face and it cuts to the next scene. I looked up the transcript and they cut this line out: Funnily enough I was watching that episode with the subtitles on, and it was in the subtitles but not the dialogue. thebardyspoon posted:Wait what? How do they do that? The channel 4 ones can't be that cut down surely? Regular episodes are 22 minutes and cutting out an entire 3rd act would make it about 16 tops, I'm going to have to see this sometime. That episode wasn't great but that would make it complete garbage. http://www.channel4.com/programmes/the-simpsons/episode-guide/series-12/episode-18 doesn't say anything about it being edited on there. edit: Louis Spence currently doing his utmost to ruin WILTY. stickyfngrdboy fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jul 13, 2012 |
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I don't think the channel 4 channels actually do any editing - for years I've kind of presumed they buy them per-edited from the US. The censoring to Friends used to be pretty blatant so I emailed them a few times to complain, and every time they said it was for time. Bullshit, you bought them edited down because America is dumb and shows sanitised versions of poo poo in syndication. Nowadays they sow HIMYM with seemingly no cuts in the middle of the day, and it's far racier than Friends ever was. So, yeah, the schizophrenic nature of it tells me they don't do it themselves, they show what they've got.
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Even the idiots running comedy at BBC3 can't keep a great show down http://www.chortle.co.uk/news/2012/06/29/15689/ideal_to_be_made_into_a_movie quote:Ideal to be made into a movie
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Is "Mrs. Brown's Boys" actually worth watching despite it looking like complete garbage? Everyone at work is raving about it.
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Double Happiness posted:Is "Mrs. Brown's Boys" actually worth watching despite it looking like complete garbage? Everyone at work is raving about it.
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