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danbanana posted:I've already made plans to be there. They're also tapping White Oak (which I've never had) and Ruination 10th Anniversary (which I have had in bottle). Should be a good day... Hmm. Maybe I can make one of these this weekend, since I finally have a Saturday off.  My mom had a big get-together for several birthdays in my family on Sunday, and along with the usual gaggle of Goose beers I also brought a bottle of Goose Island Lolita and Stone 10th Anniversary Ruination. The Ruination had all the wonderful hop aromatics and flavors you could want in a beer, but surprisingly enough it didn't seem as palate-killingly bitter as I remember Ruination being. It was still pretty aggressive, but it was surprisingly nicely balanced. I could drink a ton of that stuff. Lolita's also a drat nice beer, with plenty of raspberry character and a delicious tartness from all the souring organisms. I just wish it weren't 9%ABV, since I had to wake up for work early the next morning.
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funkybottoms posted:NC dudes: Mellow Mushroom in Greensboro will be tapping Black Note this Friday. So tempted to drive down for this, even though I know it's going to be a massive clusterfuck. MM is crowded as hell on Friday nights anyway.
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funkybottoms posted:their year-round stuff is weak, but they make a few decent seasonals- recently tried the lemon ginger saison and enjoyed it, especially for like six bucks a bomber. Still too pricy for anything by Saranac when you can get a bomber of Victory Helios for under $4
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For those that have had both, how would you stack Green Flash Palate Wrecker against Stone Ruination 10th? I'm starting to doubt we'll see any of the 10th in the area and don't want to miss it, so may have TX folk ship it over.
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air- posted:For those that have had both, how would you stack Green Flash Palate Wrecker against Stone Ruination 10th? I'm starting to doubt we'll see any of the 10th in the area and don't want to miss it, so may have TX folk ship it over. I enjoyed Palate Wrecker more. I'm all for over-the-top hops, but Palate Wrecker was more balanced, and that's saying something.
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CalvinDooglas posted:Still too pricy for anything by Saranac when you can get a bomber of Victory Helios for under $4 i'll remember that next time i need a liquid Band-Aid
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drat it Wegmans. I wasn't going to get beer but then they had Theobroma in stock, so I might as well get a 4-pack of Hoptimum too. Oh and I have been craving Hell or High Watermelon the past two weeks... Fine, take my money.
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Munkaboo posted:I enjoyed Palate Wrecker more. I'm all for over-the-top hops, but Palate Wrecker was more balanced, and that's saying something. Yeah, I do like Palate Wrecker more than Ruination. I've only seen the 10th on tap like you had mentioned, and hadn't been around for any events. Asked a couple stores and they've got nothing, nor do they know if/when it'll show up. funkybottoms posted:i'll remember that next time i need a liquid Band-Aid 
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Munkaboo posted:Saranac is really really lovely. I would never suggest somebody start there.
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air- posted:For those that have had both, how would you stack Green Flash Palate Wrecker against Stone Ruination 10th? I'm starting to doubt we'll see any of the 10th in the area and don't want to miss it, so may have TX folk ship it over. I'll go against the growing opinion here and say that I liked Ruination 10th better. But I didn't adore either, so... yeah.
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I just drain-poured my lone bottle of Devil Dancer after about 5 sips. I wanted to give it a try, and it's certainly better than 120 Minute, but it's kind of abrasive to drink. I think I'm getting some of that onion flavour people were talking about. Just didn't really sit right with me. Glad I didn't spring for the four pack. I can understand why someone would like this, but it's not for me.
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bartolimu posted:I'm at Pizza Port Carlsbad and am phoneposting to confirm my Beer Nerd status because I have to talk about what I'm having right now: Port Brewing Poor Vato. DIPA on nitro. It's like orange sherbet on a pinewood spoon being forcefully inserted into my nasal cavities. Holy poo poo is this an awesome beer. I grew up right down the road (quite literally right down Carlsbad Village Drive) and only found out about Pizza Port being awesome after I moved to New Jersey.  I'll be visiting it at the end of this month for the first time when I go home to "visit family." Will report results.
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Kosher man posted:Why in the world would you expect a blanche to have banana or funk in it? I was told it was supposed to be a Belgian white, which I took to mean similar to hefeweizens. Google says there are actually several sub styles that people all toss into the "white" category. I thought Blanche was a cute name, not a specific style. I was expecting more fruity notes ("banana") and funk (yeasty/spicy) notes. It was smooth, yeasty in a pleasant non-bready way, and very slightly citrus. Very refreshing and good, but I was going in expecting it to be very different. What would another blanche available in the US be to compare it to? Jahoodie fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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Jahoodie posted:I was told it was supposed to be a Belgian white, which I took to mean similar to hefeweizens. Google says there are actually several sub styles that people all toss into the "white" category. I thought Blanche was a cute name, not a specific style. blanche is just the way the French say it; white, wit, and blanche are all the same thing
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Watching the all star game with a growler of brewery-fresh Daisy Cutter. Life is good. Also I asked if other chicago-goons had seen it anywhere besides the brewery. Since then I have found it twice at random grocery stores, but still never at any liquor stores. I guess ya gotta go where the nerds arent!
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As an addendum to my earlier whine about East Coast vs. West Coast beer, my birthday's coming up, and I'm gonna ask my dad to send me some beer from Southern CA. Any tips on what kind of stuff to ask for? He has access to pretty much whatever down there that doesn't require going too far afield of the general San Diego area and north (Solana Beach specifically), and I'm out in New Jersey. I already plan to ask him for some Port Brewery, Bruery, and other than that I'm open to suggestions. Thanks in advance!
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Munkaboo posted:Saranac is really really lovely. I would never suggest somebody start there. lovely seems like a really strong word. I'd agree that they're not exactly top tier but they have as many hits (Lake Effect Lager, Bohemian Pilsner, Pumpkin Ale) as misses (Big Moose, Imperial Stout), and plenty of middling and serviceable stuff (Shandy, Chocolate Lager) IMO. Guess we're on the opposite ends of this because everything I've had by Leinenkugel has tasted weird. I mostly brought them up for variety and (possible) proximity to Wizbro. Picked up Stone's Ruination 10th anniversary tonight. Anyone out there already had one? How does it stack up to the original?
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I might get on board with "Saranac is lovely". Their beer tastes a little funny and makes my stomach hurt. I got a variety 12 pack once and while they weren't offensive, they just didn't sit right.
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Jahoodie posted:I was told it was supposed to be a Belgian white, which I took to mean similar to hefeweizens. Google says there are actually several sub styles that people all toss into the "white" category. I thought Blanche was a cute name, not a specific style. My main complaint with your first post was usage of the word "funk". For some reason more and more people love to use this term for every single belgian ale. The term use to be used in a description of brett but now I constantly see it used for any saison people drink and it annoys the hell out of me.
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Kosher man posted:My main complaint with your first post was usage of the word "funk". For some reason more and more people love to use this term for every single belgian ale. The term use to be used in a description of brett but now I constantly see it used for any saison people drink and it annoys the hell out of me. Yeah, I meant yeast-inspired flavor funk, but using it to describe bretts would be way better. I had some of The Bruery's Saison Rue brewed that is brewed with brett, it was sour but not as funky as I would've liked. Are you supped to let brett's age for awhile in the bottle?
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Munkaboo posted:2x the bitterness, it's good but almost too hoppy. It seriously hits with the hoppiness to the point where it gives a bit of that super-dry mouth feeling that happens when you eat a hop pellet. And it's awesome.
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Podima posted:I grew up right down the road (quite literally right down Carlsbad Village Drive) and only found out about Pizza Port being awesome after I moved to New Jersey. I'm pretty sure I had one of every house brew they had on that night. It was quite an undertaking. The bartenders are cool people and know quite a lot about beer (one does a couple nights a week at Toronado). Hamilton's tonight. It's a great mix of local dive and beer Mecca.
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If it was inoculated with Brett during bottling (like the RR/SN collab Brux is, I believe), then yes. It will develop a stronger profile over time. Brett is a yeast, by the way. It typically imparts a barnyard-like funk to the aroma and the flavor profile. Makes a beer taste "gamy". It makes an appearance in a lot of Belgian styles, to different degrees, and in a lot of sours (Lambics, Guezes, Flemish reds). Most of those are barrel-aged, which is where the Brett chills out. The typical Belgian yeast profile is a breadiness in the nose and in the palate. Esters and phenolics may or may not be prevalent. The esters are the banana/pear aromas and flavors, the phenols tend to be spicy - usually clove comes to mind. If there is no Brett, there is typically no funk. If there is sourness, that's usually from bacteria, not yeast. There's three major strains that are responsible for all the tasty, lovely sours out there: Lactobacillus, acetobacter, pediococcus. Lacto gives you lactic acid which yields pretty sharp, crisp, sour notes. Aceto gives you acetic acid which is basically vinegar. Pediococcus gives you lactic acid, but it also spits out diacetyl which most people immediately notice. That's a butterscotch or buttery flavor. Not a good thing, in most styles. edit: I probably hosed up part of that explanation but whatever. I'm trying to watch a movie and drink a beer while typing. FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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Kosher man posted:My main complaint with your first post was usage of the word "funk". For some reason more and more people love to use this term for every single belgian ale. The term use to be used in a description of brett but now I constantly see it used for any saison people drink and it annoys the hell out of me. I don't blame people for that. "Funk" isn't a very descriptive word. At least not as much as "horse blanket"  bartolimu posted:I'm pretty sure I had one of every house brew they had on that night. It was quite an undertaking. The bartenders are cool people and know quite a lot about beer (one does a couple nights a week at Toronado). I haven't seen her in a while but there used to be a bartender that worked at both Pizza Port Carlsbad and Toronado who was a smokin' hot chick 
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Manky posted:drat it Wegmans. I wasn't going to get beer but then they had Theobroma in stock, so I might as well get a 4-pack of Hoptimum too. Oh and I have been craving Hell or High Watermelon the past two weeks... Fine, take my money. Theobroma is delicious. I adore that beer. It's really well-balanced with the mild heat on the finish and cocoa throughout. Podima posted:As an addendum to my earlier whine about East Coast vs. West Coast beer, my birthday's coming up, and I'm gonna ask my dad to send me some beer from Southern CA. Any tips on what kind of stuff to ask for? He has access to pretty much whatever down there that doesn't require going too far afield of the general San Diego area and north (Solana Beach specifically), and I'm out in New Jersey. I already plan to ask him for some Port Brewery, Bruery, and other than that I'm open to suggestions. Thanks in advance! You can get a lot of Bruery in NJ, and Port Brewing/Lost Abbey is bringing their entire line-up here they said, don't bother with them. I've heard Ninkasi makes some good stuff and we can't get Russian River in NJ so look for them. Edit: New Glarus' Dancing Man is very good, I wish I had access to this, though Apollo is very good in it's own right. Similar beers though Apollo is a bit bolder from my memory. Dancing Man has a slightly chalky yeast presence that Apollo didn't have either. Other than that they are very similar in flavor to me. Midorka fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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I wouldn't say they are that close in flavor at all. That also reminds me that I need to pick up some more Dancing Man tomorrow.
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For Chicagoons who want Daisy Cutter, I know Rogers Park Wine & Spirits has at least a few 4-packs left. And plenty of Gossamer and Over Ale. Stopped by Norse after running some errands today, and got to try a few new things. They have (or had, the owner said the keg was running low) Boulevard Brett Saison on tap, which was a marvelous beer: plenty of saison dryness and a perfect level of funk and earthiness from the Brett. I also finally got to try Great Divide Belgian Yeti, which blew me away with how well it melded the Belgian fruitiness with the chocolate/roast flavors of the malt base. I homebrewed a Belgian imperial stout a few years back and it couldn't hold a candle to Belgian Yeti. Highly recommended. Norse also won an award for best bar in Edgewater/Andersonville recently, which surprised the hell out of me. Maybe Chicago is getting tired of the rear end in a top hat bartenders at Hopleaf.  Tomorrow I'm joining Freddie (the owner) and a few of his friends on a long bike trip to some breweries in Indiana, with some stops to split bombers along the way. I like working in this industry.
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loving hell, Dogfish Head's Palo Santo Marron is ridiculously good, the only downfall (which may be a positive all things considered) is the warming alcohol on the finish. loving yes this is worth trying. The aroma is what makes it for me.
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Midorka posted:I've heard Ninkasi makes some good stuff... It's true. Grab Maiden the Shade, their summer IPA, if you can find it. It's nothing too out of the ordinary, just a really good IPA. Most of their other beers are also at least solid, with the exception of the Radiant Summer Ale, which is poo poo IMO. Believer Double Red, Tricerahops Double IPA, Oatis Stout, Total Domination IPA, and Unconventionale are all very good. Went to the Cascade Barrel House tonight and had an awesome flight of beers. First was the Blueberry Bourbonic Plague which they just tapped a barrel of tonight. It's basically the Bourbonic aged on a ton of blueberries. It's a delicious beer, but I found myself wishing for a little more sourness and funk. The 2011 Kriek is coming along nicely. Was a bit more overtly fruity and less sour than I remember the 2010 being, but this was also from barrel rather than a bottle. The star of the night was the Figaro, a sour blonde aged on figs in Chardonnay barrels. They've bottled this, but haven't released it as planned because it's "not ready yet".
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Ubik posted:Stopped by Norse after running some errands today, and got to try a few new things. They have (or had, the owner said the keg was running low) Boulevard Brett Saison on tap, which was a marvelous beer: plenty of saison dryness and a perfect level of funk and earthiness from the Brett. I drank way too much of that this weekend at Norse. So good. I really do like that bar, especially in comparison to the shittiness/expense of Hopleaf.
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I've got a buddy going up to Chicago- he's already on the lookout for Daisy Cutter and Apocalypse Cow. Any other suggestions on what to shop for and where? Are the GI sour sisters completely gone by now?
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I've had two cans of Daisy Cutter out of the 4 pack my coworker brought me from Chicago. It's a really, really good beer. Light bodied and refreshing, pleasant hop body but nothing overwhelming, nice citrus nose. Pretty much lived up to the hype I'd read about it. If I was able to get this regularly, it would easily be my go-to pale ale. Since I can't, I'll have to stick to Headwaters and Dale's. First world problems right here.
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Midorka posted:Theobroma is delicious. I adore that beer. It's really well-balanced with the mild heat on the finish and cocoa throughout. So right! I opened it up last night and liked it a lot. What a surprise, that orange-amber color really does not set you up for this consistent, fruity chocolate taste with the chili finish. This was my first chili beer, are there any other good ones I should remember the names of?
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Manky posted:This was my first chili beer, are there any other good ones I should remember the names of? if they're distributed in your area, Great Divide's Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti and Del Ducato's Verdi Imperial Stout should be fairly easy to find
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funkybottoms posted:if they're distributed in your area, Great Divide's Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti and Del Ducato's Verdi Imperial Stout should be fairly easy to find Eastern PA - I can get regular Yeti pretty easily, and I know I got a 4pack of Espresso Oak Aged Yeti once. I'll keep an eye out for both of those, thanks.
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air- posted:I've got a buddy going up to Chicago- he's already on the lookout for Daisy Cutter and Apocalypse Cow. Any other suggestions on what to shop for and where? Are the GI sour sisters completely gone by now? 750ml bottles of Juliet and Lolita are almost always available for purchase at the main brewpub for $25 each. I haven't seen Madame Rose there in a while. --- Bought a 4 pack of Rayon Vert this weekend; drat, what a fine beer. I thiiiiiink I like it better than Orval, actually. Seemed more balanced and less... pointy, I guess?
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funkybottoms posted:if they're distributed in your area, Great Divide's Chocolate Oak Aged Yeti and Del Ducato's Verdi Imperial Stout should be fairly easy to find Well gently caress I didn't know this, I have a bottle of this that's been sitting and I had no idea it used cayenne. I'm very excited now. Great Divide's Yeti series is really a home-run.
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Podima posted:As an addendum to my earlier whine about East Coast vs. West Coast beer, my birthday's coming up, and I'm gonna ask my dad to send me some beer from Southern CA. Any tips on what kind of stuff to ask for? He has access to pretty much whatever down there that doesn't require going too far afield of the general San Diego area and north (Solana Beach specifically), and I'm out in New Jersey. I already plan to ask him for some Port Brewery, Bruery, and other than that I'm open to suggestions. Thanks in advance! I've been in San Diego for the last week, and so far I've really liked Alpine Duet (IPA), Alesmith Yulesmith Summer (Double IPA), and Knee Deep Simtra (Triple IPA) Sorry for the IPA trifecta, but I haven't had anything else that you can't get on the east coast, or won't be able to get soon from Port/Lost Abbey. I still have lots of stuff to try, but I will probably mail those three I mentioned above to my address on the east coast before I go back in September.
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