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You should probably PM said person. No point getting all mysterious about it (I know who it is since I'm releasing on the same platform in the coming week and reading the thread, hurb). After all, we should help each other out without making them find out the errors of their mistakes the hard way. I mean, we'd all love an advert for our extradition from the forums but hey... Fishbus fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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Fishbus posted:You should probably PM said person. No point getting all mysterious about it (I know who it is since I'm releasing on the same platform in the coming week and reading the thread, hurb) For the first... man, 6 months, at least, I just had to not read the LEGO Universe thread. That was painful. 
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Jul 11, 2012 21:23
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Shalinor posted:I would just like to warn no one in particular, anyone that might have broken into the industry in the last year and is now watching their first game take a bit of a beating, that leaping to its defense is often A Bad Idea. Sometimes it can work, other times, you get burned out of the forums. The dude from Mercenaries 2 that used to post on here, for instance. In a way, this is why I haven't explicitly mentioned where I even work. When my game comes out, then I'll reconsider, but apart from a few instances where I'd love to say something, it's easier this way.
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Jul 11, 2012 21:25
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There's a surprising number of people who get game jobs, post about it on internet forums, and get themselves in trouble at work. While not directly game related, I think there was someone who was a new Google employee that got fired for posting a picture of his uniform on Reddit. Yeah, here is an article on it http://www.dailydot.com/news/google-employee-fired-reddit-post/
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Jul 11, 2012 21:36
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I don't mind saying it's about me; I offered to gift copies of my game to people in the iOS games thread that seem to have very strong opinions about it without actually playing it. I can see how that might be taken in a way I don't really intend. Edit: Didn't break into the industry in the last year, been posting in these threads for years.
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Jul 11, 2012 21:37
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Akuma posted:Edit: Didn't break into the industry in the last year, been posting in these threads for years. 
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Jul 11, 2012 21:41
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Shalinor posted:Oh drat it, I confuse you with Aliginge all the time. Didn't Aliginge have an Akuma avatar or... something like that... I don't know. My memory am not so good 
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Jul 11, 2012 21:47
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Chainclaw posted:There's a surprising number of people who get game jobs, post about it on internet forums, and get themselves in trouble at work. While not directly game related, I think there was someone who was a new Google employee that got fired for posting a picture of his uniform on Reddit. Yeah, here is an article on it http://www.dailydot.com/news/google-employee-fired-reddit-post/ Guy clearly broke his T&C And was basically posting for the sake of going "look at me look at me look at me". Kind of sad really, but kinda not.
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Jul 11, 2012 21:58
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As a Disney employee, I'm not really worried about shooting my mouth off in my game's thread. In fact, I'd be surprised if the game I'm working on even gets its own thread.
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Jul 11, 2012 22:07
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Fishbus posted:Guy clearly broke his T&C It can be tough for people to find an outlet for excitement about job related stuff nowadays. You do something really cool at work one day, or something really exciting happens in the office, you want to share it with people.
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Jul 11, 2012 22:12
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Shalinor posted:Oh drat it, I confuse you with Aliginge all the time. Didn't Aliginge have an Akuma avatar or... something like that... I don't know. My memory am not so good Shalinor posted:I would just like to warn no one in particular, anyone that might have broken into the industry in the last year and is now watching their first game take a bit of a beating, that leaping to its defense is often A Bad Idea. Sometimes it can work, other times, you get burned out of the forums. The dude from Mercenaries 2 that used to post on here, for instance.  VVV EDIT: VVV  
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Jul 11, 2012 22:21
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^^^^ WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I'm employed again! THIS time for real! (Last guy decided to ditch the contract at the last second) OH man, after a year, it took this long but finally! Yeah it's QA but goddamn it feels good to be back in again. Shindragon fucked around with this message at 23:31 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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Jul 11, 2012 22:43
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mutata posted:As a Disney employee, I'm not really worried about shooting my mouth off in my game's thread. In fact, I'd be surprised if the game I'm working on even gets its own thread. Disney is watching you and recording everything you say type or think. There is a black helicopter filled with lawyers hovering above your home just waiting to strike.
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Jul 11, 2012 23:09
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I derailed the Runescape thread for a couple days by semi-accidentally revealing that I worked at that company(someone thought our CEO's APV was a tank, man it's not a tank it has no gun!), but it died down once they realised I knew absolutely nothing about Runescape itself. Maybe someday there'll be a Transformers Universe thread...
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Jul 11, 2012 23:10
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Resource posted:Disney is watching you and recording everything you say type or think. There is a black helicopter filled with lawyers hovering above your home just waiting to strike. You joke but Disney lawyers are some of the scariest bunch on the block.
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Jul 11, 2012 23:17
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I think it's unfortunate that companies have to maintain such tight control on message and communication with fans. I understand why, but at the same time it would be really nice to be able to simply engage with people who are interested in the work you are doing. Obviously some companies are more relaxed than others, but most of the big studios/publishers maintain careful control in my experience.Commander Hen posted:You joke but Disney lawyers are some of the scariest bunch on the block. I was only half joking, I'm hesitant even now to talk about the company publicly. Resource fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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Jul 11, 2012 23:19
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Thankfully, it's not against policy to admit that I work for them and I make games. I don't think...
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there's a couple threads i have had to stay away from now or I start to get worked up a bit. Luckily I haven't seen a Darksiders 2 thread to make me angry yet. In other news Albany is kinda dull but otherwise loving it up here in NY, the wife and I just got settled into our sweet apartment and are now looking for furniture! ahh...relocation
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Jul 11, 2012 23:53
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Chainclaw posted:It can be tough for people to find an outlet for excitement about job related stuff nowadays. You do something really cool at work one day, or something really exciting happens in the office, you want to share it with people. You're right, but at the same time there's a line between "I got a job working with sweet company X" and taking pictures of the office/work involved/paraphernalia so suddenly
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Chainclaw posted:It can be tough for people to find an outlet for excitement about job related stuff nowadays. You do something really cool at work one day, or something really exciting happens in the office, you want to share it with people. Holy gently caress I almost forgot to mention. I upgraded to an Intuos 5M tablet.  The 5 series have a rough surface which will loving destroy the pen nibs that come with it though, we got a sticky screen protector sheet and now the finish is smooth and slippery just like I'm used to on my Graphire 1
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treeboy posted:there's a couple threads i have had to stay away from now or I start to get worked up a bit. Luckily I haven't seen a Darksiders 2 thread to make me angry yet. Vicarious Visions? There was a helldump for an employee there at one point As a former THQ employee I'm sorry to hear what happened at Vigil, but I'm glad you found a new place. As a former upstate NY resident, enjoy the snow! If you haven't lived up north before, I strongly recommend snow tires in the winter - the difference in grip is tremendous - going from regular tires to snow tires is a tremendous change in handling for the snow.
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mutata posted:Thankfully, it's not against policy to admit that I work for them and I make games. Mickey Mouse is going to send Pluto on you. I still remember when I was under Sony NDA. It was basically don't take picks of the bay (aka the office). I do like the little loophole of you can take a picture of it it just better not have any displays on it or the displays are showing the game. Otherwise you are outta there. Shindragon fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Jul 12, 2012 |
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I have usually been very vague about what I do and where I work, but in the one case that I have talked about a game I worked on I tried to sort of take the criticism, acknowledge it, and explain my thoughts on why the sort of nonsensical features they asked about existed without taking it personally. I'm working on a few things now but I get extremely hesitant to talk about anything specific simply because the things I work on tend to have a pretty significant chance of never seeing the light of day. Especially my personal pet project, which although it is playable and taking shape and therefore I feel the need to show it off to pretty much anyone that could ever care, I have resisted as it is both unpolished and being made at an admittedly very slow pace for how simple it is. Once I mention something and try to get any interest in it I feel pressured/obligated to go full steam on it which I really don't have the resources to do. I have seen a TON of "Hey check out this thing I am working on in my spare time" projects and while some have been cool, none of them ever got finished. I'm hoping that instead I can be the guy who says "Hey check out this game we will be releasing on X date" or "Hey, I made a game, check it out".
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xgalaxy posted:The problem is games are getting more expensive to buy and the hours you get out of them continue to drop. The majority of the single player games out now can be completed in under 8 hours. That's about $9 per hour of enjoyment which is better than a movie but I wouldn't call it cheap. Y'know, people have been saying that exact thing for about 10 years now, and I don't think it's ever really been correct. There are occasional games that will pad themselves out to 15-30 hours, but they're either monolith productions or just full of grind and copy-pasted elements. Honestly, some of my favorite games of all time can be completed in well under 8 hours, and the fact that they don't drag on (And have reply value) is what makes them classics. Portal, for instance, had some people reporting first playthroughs of 4-6 hours, and that's easily one of the best games this generation. Hell, look at all the NES/SNES games that you remember fondly, and you can complete a lot of those in 2 hours or less (And yes, they used to cost ~$60 as well). I just think we should be focusing more on replayability rather than the first-run time, because it's easy to pad out a first run at the expense of replayability, and ultimately that just screws people out of another X hours of fun. I'd happily pay $60 for a short game that I'm likely to replay a lot, but I'll um and err about paying for a long game that I'll never want to touch again once I've finished it. (Then again I'm still bitter because I worked on a game that was incredibly fun but only had 4 hours of content, and then we were forced by the publishers to up the average first playthrough to 8 hours and it just turned into a grindy, unfun mess)
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Anyone headed to Beer Wednesday tonight?
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Shalinor posted:It's a good general warning, too, hence the general post. Everyone ends up in that position eventually, and it's a really, really easy thing to get sucked into. Sometimes though you emerge from the fire with new skin made of diamond. 
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SAHChandler posted:Anyone headed to Beer Wednesday tonight? hell yeah! OC GOONS REPRESENT I'm the fat guy in the grey hat. gamethread chat - my rule is only respond to questions you can answer and positive feedback. I can't go and confirm that yes, I agree with you that feature X was a piece of poo poo implementation or that Y change from the previous game was bad, even if I agree with you 100%. Likewise, if I disagree, I'm not going to change your opinion no matter how hard I shout - you can't tell people what they like and don't like. Having said that, I really enjoyed responding in the RFG thread - I really liked that game and goon feedback was positive. It was a great game to have as my first under my belt. I also got to play with goons online - Earf Defense Fish forever
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Monster w21 Faces posted:Sometimes though you emerge from the fire with new skin made of diamond. Sounds like a curse.
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Aliginge posted:Not dying out, but it's pretty undeniable that a large broad collection of studios are consolidating into a few gigantic players. If anything the competition combined with the economic downturn is destroying the middle of the industry, leaving the largest, most budget-heavy studios to devour the As and double-A studios that don't quite make the millions as the smallest studios attempt to carve out their own little niche and not directly competing with the big boys. I think the biggest threat is the difficulty in scaling up. 20 years ago Carmack wrote Doom with like 5 other guys. 9 years ago they wrote Doom 3 with something like 50 people, maybe. Now they have ~100+ people and it's really difficult to manage all that, keep efficient communication, etc. Carmack wants to sit in his cave and code poo poo all day, but they need him to try and lead/manage. I would imagine companies like Blizzard either went through or are going through something similar. Especially when you're owned by some larger entity that doesn't know jack poo poo about games.
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While there are umpteen other factors that play into this, there's also science that proves that the more you blab, the less likely you are to continue working on it: http://www.ted.com/talks/derek_sivers_keep_your_goals_to_yourself.html
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SAHChandler posted:Anyone headed to Beer Wednesday tonight? Without Jim or Dino it hardly feels like beer night for reals.
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Sigma-X posted:hell yeah! OC GOONS REPRESENT Apparently, all that glitters is not gold. Instead it is your beard.
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Yeah, it sucks not being able to post about the game I work on when it's discussed here, but it's way better than people taking me to task for everything they don't like about it. I get enough of that from our own forums -- I don't need it here, too. Also I can't get baited into ragefixing things.  As for next gen systems... I started typing a post here and then realized that it was almost word-for-word what I thought about this current generation of consoles back in 2005. The industry has been moving away from "better looks better game" for a while, and I think we're seeing the top of the curve for "more features better game," too. We're going to see some major companies fall in this upcoming transition, like we have in each previous one. Some companies will still succeed despite themselves, and others will fail due to factors outside their control. It's going to be interesting.
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I can't believe how much fun skyrim and new vegas was. On top of that I love how 'mad' some artists get over how it looks. *shouts companion off a cliff* 
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Socialisation and scale is what I hope will be the core pillars of the next gen. That and mechanics. Give me a set of core mechanics and a pleasing aesthetic and I'm good to go for several hundred hours. See: Everything Bethesda has made and Minecraft.
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You can tell when it's getting towards the end of the day/week and I'm tired because my Perforce submission notes get sillier and sarkier. Also, my colour choices get brighter. You leave it up to me to make some placeholder alternate weapon skins, you are getting some bright camo-print poo poo because it looks cool and I am getting sick of rusty grey metal.
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floofyscorp posted:Also, my colour choices get brighter. You leave it up to me to make some placeholder alternate weapon skins, you are getting some bright camo-print poo poo because it looks cool and I am getting sick of rusty grey metal.
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Shalinor posted:I've always enjoyed pink polka dots and yakkety sax, for placeholder art and audio respectively. I'm going to expand my patterns library to cover polka-dots and some animal prints. It's full of different types of metal and camo and treadplate right now, SO BORING. Ooh, I know a bot who would look fabulous in zebra-print. This is totally happening.
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Thanks to the "replace swords with bananas thread" I was very tempted to put a placeholder banana on my character's hand.
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