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Toussaint Louverture posted:How long is the process to get a teaching job in Taiwan? Going to start looking for a new job in Korea but I want another option in case Korea gets a bit too old. Will be a free man on October 9th and want to spend as little time as possible in that free state. Would probably want to avoid Taipei, I hate rain and prefer hot weather. Is Saturday a universal thing or a Hess thing? For the record, I'm far too neurotic to just show up in country and look for a job in person. Like Haraksha said if you want to avoid the rain focus on Taichung, Tainan, and Kaohsiung for work. Also like he said smaller schools tend to be 5 days a week, and the big companies tend to go 6. If your just arriving you should plan on working 6 days a week. After your first year you can start looking around for something more suitable to you. As far as getting hired outside of the country HESS is the only company that really does that, but its worth looking around on Tealit.com. Most places want you to be there for an interview in person, but you never know what you might find.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 02:17 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 04:23 |
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Kojen was willing to hire me abroad, so there's that
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 02:26 |
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Yeah, Kojen hires abroad, and some smaller mom and pop schools do as well. It's how I got here in the first place. Also, not all chains have Saturday classes. I work at a major branch of Hess in the middle of Taipei, and there aren't any Saturday classes. Just rarely an open house to get new students to come in, where one foreign teacher has to teach. So, I teach on Saturday maybe two or three times a year. Edit: Mom and Pop place had me teaching 9am-6pm every Saturday though.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 03:07 |
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Keep in mind that if a school hires from abroad, it's probably because no one actually living here would work for their lovely pay/long hours.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 03:19 |
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I got hired from abroad and my school is fine, just in a lousy location.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 03:54 |
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The one that hired me from abroad had 16-20 hours/week, 800nt/hour, 0 homework or tests to grade. I was the sole foreign teacher there, which meant I had to do every class, so no one was around to fill in for me. Made it difficult for time off and made for some argumentative sick days, but it was great money for little work. So, not always true.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 04:25 |
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Ravendas posted:The one that hired me from abroad had 16-20 hours/week, 800nt/hour, 0 homework or tests to grade. I was the sole foreign teacher there, which meant I had to do every class, so no one was around to fill in for me. Made it difficult for time off and made for some argumentative sick days, but it was great money for little work. I can't even begin to imagine why a school that only has one waiguoren would be recruiting from overseas. Also, I assume that, like Haraksha, your school is somewhere between the exact middle of nowhere and actual civilization. It's super cool that you guys found sweet jobs in a pot at the end of a rainbow and all, but this island does in fact have a ton of soulless teacher mills, and a common practice at them is to scoop up a newly-grad, fly their rear end all the way to Taiwan, segregate them from all contact with the wider world and then work them unto death.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 04:31 |
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Ravendas posted:Also, not all chains have Saturday classes. I work at a major branch of Hess in the middle of Taipei, and there aren't any Saturday classes. Just rarely an open house to get new students to come in, where one foreign teacher has to teach. This is true, but I'd say the majority of chain schools require Saturdays. Most everyone I've met that works at Joy, Melody, and Kojen all work Saturdays. Though with that said I work at a Joy English, and I don't have to work Saturdays because it was the only way they could get any foreigners to work for them.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 04:32 |
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I work saturdays, but I teach adults so my students are busy during the week.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 04:33 |
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If it helps, I've got 180 hours of TEFL and 18 months of NET experience. I don't have an American teaching cert but basically I've got everything but. The little research I've done seems to show that most schools in Taiwan don't give a poo poo.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 04:41 |
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I think that's the conventional wisdom, and I haven't actually taught EFL yet so take this with a grain of salt, but I interviewed successfully for the job, and I can tell you that having 180 hours of formal teaching experience couldn't have possibly hurt me during the interview. From what I understand, buxibans don't want old-hand EFL teachers because they all have their own methods and conventions and they don't want biased teachers, so with your experience I think mentioning your openness to try new techniques could be a boon. But again, I haven't actually started the job yet, so IDK.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 04:45 |
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If you don't want to go door-to-door then going through a recruiter can be a good option. You usually pay 20% of your first month's earnings as commission, but that's not too bad when you can often get a job that starts immediately with almost no legwork.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 06:41 |
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nac posted:If you don't want to go door-to-door then going through a recruiter can be a good option. You usually pay 20% of your first month's earnings as commission, but that's not too bad when you can often get a job that starts immediately with almost no legwork. Eh? All the recruiters I've seen only charge the company not the people looking for jobs. That seems strange too me. Also I'm not sure how things are in the Taipei area, but I would recommend against using one in the Taichung area. As I understand it the bottom completely fell out of the recruiter market here a few years ago, and now there are hardly any left. The ones that are still here only have jobs that are quite far outside the city that nobody wants. Again I'm not sure this applies to all of Taiwan though.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 07:33 |
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Spanish Matlock posted:I can't even begin to imagine why a school that only has one waiguoren would be recruiting from overseas. Also, I assume that, like Haraksha, your school is somewhere between the exact middle of nowhere and actual civilization. The school was in the middle of Wanhua district, a few minute bus ride from where I lived in Ximen Ding. Quite a nice location.
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 13:38 |
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Ravendas posted:The school was in the middle of Wanhua district, a few minute bus ride from where I lived in Ximen Ding. Quite a nice location. Why were they recruiting people from abroad?
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# ? Jul 9, 2012 14:51 |
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I was wondering if anyone had any information on the legality of E-cigs. I had read that the sale of e-cigs in Taiwan is illegal but that owning one is not. This seems kind of odd to me and as I will be coming to Taiwan to begin a new job in a week I wanted to make sure I would be alright bringing my e-cig and nicotine juice with me.
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# ? Jul 10, 2012 01:14 |
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Spanish Matlock posted:Why were they recruiting people from abroad? They had a post on tealit that I replied to (6 years ago). Their (at the time) current whitey called me in America, gave me a little interview, as did the manager, asked when the earliest I could fly over was, and hired me when I landed. I blame myself for sending out sexy pictures of myself with my resume/letter in the email. Little schools need good mascots.
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# ? Jul 10, 2012 02:56 |
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neno posted:I was wondering if anyone had any information on the legality of E-cigs. I had read that the sale of e-cigs in Taiwan is illegal but that owning one is not. This seems kind of odd to me and as I will be coming to Taiwan to begin a new job in a week I wanted to make sure I would be alright bringing my e-cig and nicotine juice with me.
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# ? Jul 10, 2012 08:15 |
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I'm going to be living and going to school in Tainan starting in September. I've been seeing so much conflicting information about the tap water in Taiwan in stuff I've read. Do you all drink it, or do you avoid drinking it? Is it actually necessary to boil/filter it? Some places I've read have recommended that, some have said it's not necessary. I'm not fussy about water either. I've always just drunk it right from the tap. Just as long as it won't make me sick...
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# ? Jul 13, 2012 03:15 |
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Inu posted:I'm going to be living and going to school in Tainan starting in September. I've been seeing so much conflicting information about the tap water in Taiwan in stuff I've read. Do you all drink it, or do you avoid drinking it? Is it actually necessary to boil/filter it? Some places I've read have recommended that, some have said it's not necessary. I use a Brita filter here in Taipei, and haven't died yet.
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# ? Jul 13, 2012 03:23 |
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There's nothing wrong with drinking tap water. I cook with it all the time too. Honestly though, a bottle of water is like 15NT.
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# ? Jul 13, 2012 03:24 |
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I cook with the tap water and I'm still alive. I think I may have drunk it once when I was super hungover and had nothing else in the apartment. My school has a filtration machine and I just fill up 5L jugs there once a week, but it's mostly for my cat.
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# ? Jul 13, 2012 05:08 |
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Inu posted:I'm going to be living and going to school in Tainan starting in September. I've been seeing so much conflicting information about the tap water in Taiwan in stuff I've read. Do you all drink it, or do you avoid drinking it? Is it actually necessary to boil/filter it? Some places I've read have recommended that, some have said it's not necessary.
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# ? Jul 13, 2012 05:33 |
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I'm pretty sure the fear against tap water is all just cultural superstitions and a concerted effort by Taiwanese bottled water companies, but whatever, why take a risk when it's all pretty drat cheap/easy to make the water "safe" anyway? The latest building I've moved to has one of those little water dispensing stations on the first floor, 1L of water is 1NT (or if you want it to "add minerals for extra health!" it's 1L for 2NT), and at least then you can be pretty sure it's gone through the correct purification channels. I've just got a bunch of empty 5L jugs, just refill them whenever. Now let's all discuss whether or not it's okay to flush toilet paper.
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# ? Jul 13, 2012 05:38 |
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POCKET CHOMP posted:Now let's all discuss whether or not it's okay to flush toilet paper. Yes. If their pipes can handle the paper it's fine, and if they can't then you must punish them for it.
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# ? Jul 13, 2012 06:32 |
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POCKET CHOMP posted:or if you want it to "add minerals for extra health!" it's 1L for 2NT I'm kind of bitter since I only had one of those machines within easy access after I moved out of my old place. Don't care anymore though, since I have a canister thingy hooked up in the kitchen now for clean water on demand.
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# ? Jul 13, 2012 07:17 |
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mad carl posted:Yes. If their pipes can handle the paper it's fine, and if they can't then you must punish them for it. My toliet survived a spoon going down. I don't know how it went down, but I couldn't get it out of there.
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# ? Jul 13, 2012 08:13 |
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GoutPatrol posted:My toliet survived a spoon going down. I don't know how it went down, but I couldn't get it out of there. This requires an explain.
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# ? Jul 13, 2012 09:50 |
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"Eat poo poo" is just one of those expressions that has unfortunate literal consequences.
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# ? Jul 13, 2012 09:53 |
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I dropped a spoon in my toilet once in my first apartment here that didn't have a kitchen, so I had to do all my dishes in the bathroom sink. I was able to recover (and trash) it, though.
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# ? Jul 13, 2012 13:08 |
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url posted:This requires an explain. I was trying to de-yolk an egg. Not wanting to drop it down the kitchen sink, and having no trash bags, I went to the nearest thing I could think of at the time. Then my hand slipped. This was one of those small soup spoons so it just zipped away in the hole. EDIT: This should probably go in the PYF bachelor thread.
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# ? Jul 14, 2012 01:59 |
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So when is the best time to go to Taiwan if you want to find a teaching job via the door to door/tealit route? I'm guessing its too late by now?
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# ? Jul 14, 2012 02:35 |
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Actually, this IS the best time because schools are going to be hiring for September.
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# ? Jul 14, 2012 04:05 |
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Taiwanese health care remains awesome. "Oh, you have a cold? Here's a 4-day supply of 17 different pills and a quart of Brown Mixture. That'll be 100NT."
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# ? Jul 14, 2012 09:19 |
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Moon Slayer posted:Taiwanese health care remains awesome. "Oh, you have a cold? Here's a 4-day supply of 17 different pills and a quart of Brown Mixture. That'll be 100NT." Also, Brown Mixture is opium, and they give tabs of DXM. As in, what some people chug robitussin for.
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# ? Jul 14, 2012 10:39 |
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I paid 300NT to have my feet erroneously operated on. Go Taiwan medical care!
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# ? Jul 14, 2012 12:16 |
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Wait, isn't Brown Mixture the stuff there was a big stir about being carcinogenic recently? e: Looking around, I guess that was something else?
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# ? Jul 14, 2012 13:11 |
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GoutPatrol posted:I was trying to de-yolk an egg. I prefer the old "hold it in your hand, jiggle the white through your fingers" method. Also, hey, by this time tomorrow... well, I'll be sleeping on a bench in PEK, but the day after that I'll have landed at Taipei! Wish me luck!
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# ? Jul 14, 2012 19:45 |
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edit: double post, stupid airport wifi
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# ? Jul 14, 2012 19:51 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 04:23 |
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mad carl posted:Yes. If their pipes can handle the paper it's fine, and if they can't then you must punish them for it. Ha, this made me laugh because its exactly what I do. gently caress if I am using their disgusting little poo poo baskets.
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