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Turkeybone posted:Yeah, most of the REITs (AGNC, ARR, NLY, HTS, TWO, etc)are doing pretty well.. they indirectly benefit from the troubled waters, as the Fed will probably continue to not gently caress with interest rates for awhile. Those REITs were a good play. Kneel Before Zog posted:Can anyone suggest a site or blog that goes over why that days highest/lowest price gainers jumped or dropped in price? The only thing I like about StockTwits is you can zoom in to see what stock had the unusual amount of chatter as it means something odd happened with that stock. http://stocktwits.com/signals/stocks/day
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Kneel Before Zog posted:Can anyone suggest a site or blog that goes over why that days highest/lowest price gainers jumped or dropped in price? If you're planning to use a strategy like this be sure that you have a rock solid grasp of fundamental analysis or you'll get burned, top losers often drop for days or weeks and top gainers can do the same in the opposite direction. Buying the occasional top loser can be a good strategy ONLY if you can recognize overselling. Even then, investors can continue to freak out about rumors and downgrades and technical bullshit for longer than you would want to hold a volatile position. Set exits, and don't hold overnight unless you're positive the stock is going to bounce back. Dolphin fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Jul 10, 2012 |
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Do you people have any good, preferably easy to read, guides to reading and understanding financial data on stocks. I'm trying to better understand balance sheets/income data and see jumps out as dangerous. I see a lot of you comment on things like this when people mention stocks here, looking to gain some of that knowledge without having to do a degree in finance.
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YeahDavidLeeRoth posted:Do you people have any good, preferably easy to read, guides to reading and understanding financial data on stocks. I'm trying to better understand balance sheets/income data and see jumps out as dangerous. I see a lot of you comment on things like this when people mention stocks here, looking to gain some of that knowledge without having to do a degree in finance. First you've gotta understand the four financial statements and how they relate to each other: http://www.quickmba.com/accounting/fin/statements/ The information and format of these documents are standardized across most firms in the US based on what are called Generally Accepted Accounting Principles. Because of this, you can compare similar companies using the same metrics to pick out which are the riskiest or best performing. There's about a million different ratios people use, either alone or in tandem, based almost entirely on personal preference or specific to the industry in question being examined.
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Linkedin dropped a bit due to the FB announcement, but LNKD still only has like 20% of the job market and I don't see people moving to FB for professional referrals and offers. I mean who wants their private life on display to prospective employers? Probably going to jump in to LNKD expecting that they will hit 125 this year.
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bam thwok posted:First you've gotta understand the four financial statements and how they relate to each other: Cash and cashflow is the only thing that is hard(er) to manipulate. Read the footnotes even if they make your face fall off. You still have the problem that the market already has experts doing this and they are probably better at it then you. The game is rigged, just ride the bubbles to bankruptcy!
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If anyone is thinking of moving over to OptionsHouse let me know so I can refer you. I made the switch from TD Ameritrade because of the fees. TD Ameritrade has some great services and perks but I wasn't using any of them. I can't beat $3.95 for a trade.
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A stock-buying trip report for any thread lurkers: Don't buy individual stocks if you don't have the time or skills to do the analysis. I clearly don't have the patience/skills to analyze businesses yet, and without that, I'm always gonna take a bath. Bought 500 shares NOK at 2.85. Watched it bounce for a little, decided it had been a dumb move to buy, and managed to sell 400 shares at 2.99. Holding the last 100 shares now at 1.85. Will continue to hold until company goes bankrupt (v. small part of my portfolio) or else rises gloriously like a phoenix , but basically this experience did what it was probably supposed to do--get me to stay the hell away from individual stocks until I learn more.
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YeahDavidLeeRoth posted:Do you people have any good, preferably easy to read, guides to reading and understanding financial data on stocks. I'm trying to better understand balance sheets/income data and see jumps out as dangerous. I see a lot of you comment on things like this when people mention stocks here, looking to gain some of that knowledge without having to do a degree in finance. http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Your-Sto...r+stock+analyst http://www.amazon.com/How-Read-Fina...a+balance+sheet and a bit easier http://www.amazon.com/Fundamental-A...sis+for+dummies
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Weird how Viacom stock hasnt done anything today after cutting off millions of customers from their channels on the DirecTV system.
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Woo, suck it BBY. I'm up 15% (on a paltry amount, but at least I was correct).
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onefish posted:A stock-buying trip report for any thread lurkers:
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onefish posted:A stock-buying trip report for any thread lurkers: There's a big difference between trading individual stocks for profit and going long on an established performer or dividend royalty. KO, HAS, PG are all doing relatively terrible from a day trading standpoint but if you're looking to hold long they're all great buys right now. The exception to this is ABT. Always bet on ABT.
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There are two things I really know about the stock market, for individual stocks always go long, and never think you're smart enough to play the futures market.
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onefish posted:A stock-buying trip report for any thread lurkers: And on top of that, at least 10% of your profits went to pay the commission.
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sbaldrick posted:There are two things I really know about the stock market, for individual stocks always go long, and never think you're smart enough to play the futures market. Professionals sell options, amateurs buy them.
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Pudgygiant posted:There's a big difference between trading individual stocks for profit and going long on an established performer or dividend royalty. KO, HAS, PG are all doing relatively terrible from a day trading standpoint but if you're looking to hold long they're all great buys right now. The exception to this is ABT. Always bet on ABT. But is going long on an established performer really a better move than index investing? In what situations or for what purposes?
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sbaldrick posted:There are two things I really know about the stock market, for individual stocks always go long, and never think you're smart enough to play the futures market. I don't think it's fair to write off an entire sector of trading just because it's not mainstream. You can make or lose money in options and futures just as well as you can make or lose money on stocks. I've started getting into options lately and there are aspects I really like about them, namely there is a definite time by which you have to make a decision. It prevents you from sitting on something for too long and either holding something for years only to gain a couple percent or holding out on a losing stock thinking it will eventually go back up.
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Hummer Driving human being posted:If anyone is thinking of moving over to OptionsHouse let me know so I can refer you. Sent you a PM! Working at ubs has inspired me to actually like, use some of the poo poo they make me learn.
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My great-uncle who was a high end futures trader and later sat on various exchange boards always said this about futures "only 500 people in the world really know how to trade futures, and of those only 100 make money at it". Nothing I've ever seen has changed that.
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Any thoughts on Aqua America? I bought a small position in April at $22, and then in June and July it went nuts and shot up by 20% (currently at $26.60). I can't figure out why this happened, to me it looks just like any other water utility.
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PRADA SLUT posted:Professionals sell options, amateurs buy them. There are crazy high prices on puts and calls all the time. I think hedge funds abuse them somehow. I love selling puts for stocks I want to own anyway.
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Janin posted:Any thoughts on Aqua America? I bought a small position in April at $22, and then in June and July it went nuts and shot up by 20% (currently at $26.60). I can't figure out why this happened, to me it looks just like any other water utility. Drought in more than 20 states?
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Janin posted:Any thoughts on Aqua America? I bought a small position in April at $22, and then in June and July it went nuts and shot up by 20% (currently at $26.60). I can't figure out why this happened, to me it looks just like any other water utility.
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Shrinkage posted:Drought in more than 20 states? I don't know much about the economics of utilities, but I would have guessed drought meant hard times for a water utility.
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alnilam posted:I don't know much about the economics of utilities, but I would have guessed drought meant hard times for a water utility. It's nothing more than a guess but maybe the lack of available natural water substitute means that farmers would have to pay the utilities company for water instead of getting some of it for free from the rain. Quick Google quote:Elsewhere in the state, many larger cities are in a very different situation. San Marcos, San Antonio, Odessa and Lubbock are among those with revenues that are either higher than normal or higher than last year's quote:Tom Taggart, director of the San Marcos utility, said that the drought tends to mean more money for the utility "until you're in the deeper-stage restrictions." He estimates that revenues are up roughly 10 percent this year, due to more watering before restrictions (now twice a week) took effect. Shrinkage fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jul 13, 2012 |
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Shrinkage posted:Just bought couple hundred shares [of HPQ] at 20.45.  Well, at least you didn't go with NOK.
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Turkeybone posted:
I did say a couple of years, mate.
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Shrinkage posted:I did say a couple of years, mate.
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HPQ is a good SHORT-term investment. Not best, but you could do a lot worst. I would've waited until August to buy though. The market has oversold it.
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Greetings all, I'm involved in financial research and am familiar with some of the various tools available for developing empirically grounded investment and trading strategies. If anybody has ideas they'd like to test, post and we can work out what data you will need to assemble to give the idea a looking over. Alternatively, if you lack ideas, but love staring at excel spreadsheets for hours on end putting together data for somebody else's ideas, post, too, I've got all kinds of joy and fun for you. I'll post results and an interpretation back to the thread when I've gotten the data in either case. Socrates_Bro fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Jul 16, 2012 |
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Socrates_Bro posted:Greetings all, What kind of data are you using?
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Today was about closing a few positions: V, FB, and OPEN have all been banked. e: Also played with a straddle on BAC, because, why not? Turkeybone fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jul 16, 2012 |
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iamthexander posted:What kind of data are you using? I have access to Bloomberg and Reuters for pulling common data. Any exotic data, I can advise on how whoever is interested will need to assemble it from original sources.
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I thought anyone could get it as long as you put up the $2,000 a month?
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 Bought ZNGA at 4.96.... dropped ~10% already. Would you pull the ripcord or wait for Q2 earnings next week?
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