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Corrode posted:Their new book is my pick for best book in 6th. Whether it stays that way depends how the edition plays out but currently they can field an incredibly balanced army where every unit has a worthwhile application in nearly any situation, which is rare to say the least. Alright you guys sold me I will probably pick them as my secondary army. Wonder how much $ I can get from my Sisters models.
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Bavius posted:Why not Space Wolves? Nothing really fundie about them. They're Vikings, and they hate the Ecclisiarchy as well as being good guys. They're just more wild. This is the correctest answer. How is Chrome not underlining 'correctest' with angry red squiggles?
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Wildey posted:I just wanted space marines that aren't crazy space fundies.  Hell, counts-as them with a loyalist codex if you want, but they are getting their own codex soon and will probably be kickass with an update.
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Infinite Karma posted:I'm late to the party, but play Chaos Marines. You could say that some CSM are just as fundamentalist as the Imperium, though.  If Know No Fear is anything to go by, though, Ultramarines are top-shelf 'Reasonable Marines'.
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Jul 13, 2012 20:51
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Infinite Karma posted:I'm late to the party, but play Chaos Marines. Loyalist count as is exactly what I am doing. Chaos models look cooler and are way more fun to paint then loyalist models.
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Naramyth posted:Loyalist count as is exactly what I am doing. Chaos models look cooler and are way more fun to paint then loyalist models. I wish I could model an entire army with Possessed and Chaos Termy Lords.
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Jul 13, 2012 20:56
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Wildey posted:shiiiiiit guys don't tell me that. I'm halfway through painting like $300 worth of tyranids. I just wanted a second army that isn't so crippled in the gameplay aspect but still appealed to me in lore and model variety. Seriously unless you're playing against people who are both really good and using really good lists then Tyranids are fine. Since that pretty much doesn't happen outside of tournaments(and even then...) you really don't need to worry that much. How much have you even played?
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Jul 13, 2012 21:05
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Iron Warriors are pretty reasonable. Just open the gates and let us in, and there won't be any problems.
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ghetto wormhole posted:Seriously unless you're playing against people who are both really good and using really good lists then Tyranids are fine. Since that pretty much doesn't happen outside of tournaments(and even then...) you really don't need to worry that much. How much have you even played? Admittedly not much. I've played a few AoBR games and that's what got my buying nid stuff, mostly via ebay. I don't actually have a tyranid army together yet, but good god I am enjoying the build and paint process. I'm doing the varnish dipping method and so far I'm loving the way it looks. But anyway, I got a pretty sizable blood angel army the other day for like $60, its maybe 800+ points of them. Thinking about combining it with whatever marines are in the new starter pack for 6th and having a second army to lean on in case tyranid self pity is as rich as it keeps sounding.
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I like the idea of chaos space marine models using C:SM. They aren't actually chaos, they've been pulling the long con! For 10,000 years. It's a really long con
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mmj posted:I like the idea of the Alpha Legion.
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So seriously, someone school me on Necrons. I have absolutely no idea what's good (other than doom scythes and the CCB of course) any more. 10 immortals in night scythes? 10 warriors in ghost arks? 20 warriors outside of ghost arks? Is there anything in Elite even worth taking? Are Doomsday arks better with the change to blast vs. vehicles? Annihilation barges as (cheaper than doom scythe) anti-light-vehicle autocannon platforms? e: I guess Triarch Stalkers are still good? Possibly Lychguard if you can run hyperphase swords as power axes? e2: Now that Rod of the Covenant is a power axe, why would you ever run Praetorians when Lychguard have an extra attack and a 4++ save for 5 points more a model? WhiskeyJuvenile fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jul 13, 2012 |
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:So seriously, someone school me on Necrons. I have absolutely no idea what's good (other than doom scythes and the CCB of course) any more. 10 immortals in night scythes? 10 warriors in ghost arks? 20 warriors outside of ghost arks? Is there anything in Elite even worth taking? Are Doomsday arks better with the change to blast vs. vehicles? Annihilation barges as (cheaper than doom scythe) anti-light-vehicle autocannon platforms? I have decided recently to build a necron army and I am going for Immortals in sycthes as my primary forces. Maybe a squad of warriors for marching the field. I don't know if this is a good idea or not but I am curious just like Baruch Obamawitz on what some good Necron builds are. Wish Deathmarks were worth it they look cool as hell.
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My buddy loves Necrons and has a nasty force featuring Tesla Immortals on Night Scythes, a Necron Lord on Command Barge, tons of Wraiths, and Annihilation Barges.
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There's no real reason to put anything other than 5 Warriors in a Night Scythe. The idea is to zoom around in them and deposit the Warriors onto objectives as late in the game as you can. If you are stopping your Night Scythes to drop off dudes in the middle of the battle, both they and the unit are going to die. If you are spending points on bigger units in them, they aren't doing anything for a large percentage of the game. The core of the army should still be an iron curtain, or perhaps blob-based.
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That's not the idea, 5 warriors are too fragile to hold anything on their own, and their gauss guns are good. You probably shouldn't drop them off turn 2, but 10-15 man squads are good, and invasion beams are like super deep strike, so take advantage of dropping a massive number of shots when you land.
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Naramyth posted:Or just paint them up however you want and makeup whatever bullshit you want. It doesn't matter. This is what I do, basically. Half the fun is making up dumb poo poo to try and have weird things make sense, and then realizing that GW has been doing that for thirty or so years.
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Infinite Karma posted:That's not the idea, 5 warriors are too fragile to hold anything on their own, and their gauss guns are good. You probably shouldn't drop them off turn 2, but 10-15 man squads are good, and invasion beams are like super deep strike, so take advantage of dropping a massive number of shots when you land. The Night Scythes are toast as soon as that happens. It's better to keep the flyers cheap with a little added scoring potential and to use the points to bolster your main ground force than to split the points up into high-risk packages. The Warriors in the Scythes are not your main scoring method, they are there as a late game points grab option. While having your guys walk on the board from Reserve is preferable to them all dying in the air, it's far from the ideal scenario. Necrons are pretty elite and have to pay a lot of points just to get sufficient armor saturation and wounds on the table. A flyer-heavy Necron list is too risky. You need a solid ground force, the flyers are support.
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Agree on the last point, Ghost Arks are a vital part if the plan too, but the 65 points for 5, more warriors is more worth it than most other things you can spend the points on. Why would the night scythes die after dropping off their payload? They never stop zooming.
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Wildey posted:shiiiiiit guys don't tell me that. I'm halfway through painting like $300 worth of tyranids. I just wanted a second army that isn't so crippled in the gameplay aspect but still appealed to me in lore and model variety. I'm here with you, I just started this game so I am about $300-400 in with rulebooks and Tyranids. Enjoying painting them so far, just finishing up my first box of genestealers and termagants. I was looking online at prices, and as much as I love the FLGS and owner online prices are just so much better. He charges GW prices and its hard to justify after a bit of research. In comparing prices for: 1x Tyranid Battleforce (might just get a box of warriors and termagants instead, but here for comparing prices sake) 1x Tervigon 1x Dark Eldar Battleforce (only 40k army that appeals to the girlfriend) Games Workshop Online/FLGS (no shipping on local/any orders over $75) $394.65 Miniwargaming ($7.99 shipping flat in Canada) $364.22 Great Canadian Miniatures ($15 + 3% total order before tax) $277.06 All with tax and shipping included there. Only thing is, GCM's website is pretty barebones and looks suspect. Any googling just brings up forum posts from 2009 that aren't any help. And even back then, people complained about the wait for shipping... but if its gonna save me $100+ then I'll wait a month or two. Anyone use them in Canada?
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bhsman posted:This is the correctest answer. Play Space Wolves. Go on. Do it. If you can manage to survive your first encounter with a fat, greasy Warhambeast going on about "pups" and "the Fang" and "I have real viking blood in me" and "my fursona has always been a wolf, so this army is perfect," then congratulations, you've earned the right to play Space Wolves. And also to cry out of fear. No one will think less of you if you do.
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Infinite Karma posted:Agree on the last point, Ghost Arks are a vital part if the plan too, but the 65 points for 5, more warriors is more worth it than most other things you can spend the points on. If you can get all of the necessary core first, sure, but that's hard at the lower points levels. It's 65 per scythe, 2 already puts you at +130 which is almost a solid unit, and one and a half Annihilation Barges. 3 units worth gets you a whole nother Night Scythe with Warriors. Infinite Karma posted:Why would the night scythes die after dropping off their payload? They never stop zooming. The problem is that Necrons don't have any reserves manipulation that I'm aware of, so the Scythes can end up coming in piecemeal, especially if your opponent can gently caress with your reserves rolls. It's possible to pick up Grey Knights allies to get Psychic Communion but I think the list works better the other way around, bringing CCB, 2 NS, DS into a GK list. e: Comedy option: Orikan the Diviner. Phyresis fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Jul 13, 2012 |
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Orikan the Diviner is a man's man and the champion of the universe.
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Sole.Sushi posted:Play Space Wolves. Go on. Do it. I've yet to meet this hambeast, does that mean I'm the hambeast? 
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Bavius posted:I've yet to meet this hambeast, does that mean I'm the hambeast? Think of your wardrobe: are you wearing a Three-Wolf-Moon t-shirt and/or possess such a shirt, even ironically? If yes, you are this hambeast. If no, then you are safe. For now.
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The other Reserve manipulation that hasn't really been toyed with much (but I might) is a Reserve-heavy army that plays off of the enemy using Zandrehk's Phased reinforcements. Anytime an opponent brings anything onto the table from Reserve you get to Deep Strike models in on their turn. Sure, you take a couple hits, but then you have a unit or more that get to fully act on your turn. In a big game I'm really tempted to take Zandrekh, Imotehk, and multiple units of 20 Flayed Ones. Mark a unit in the back, turn two rolls around and they have a couple flyers enter--40 Flayed Ones stand less than 6" away.
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  Just got these to little lovelies off of bartertown, but I have a question. On the first one this guy obviously just put regular dread arms on a contemptor, but what is with the shoulder pads on the second? Is it just a different kind?
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Sole.Sushi posted:Think of your wardrobe: are you wearing a Three-Wolf-Moon t-shirt and/or possess such a shirt, even ironically? We have a guy in the local group here creating a space marine army called "fluttershy-guys" and painted to match that drat cartoon horse and shy-guy masks  On another note, I'm running a 2k list of eldar/dark eldar in a small tournament this weekend. DE are heavy on speed (2 raiders full of warriors, a ravager, and a razorwing counting as a void raven), and Eldar are more focused toward close-range shooting and objective holding, and all foot slogging. I'm still relatively new to the game again (used to play daemonhunters back in college, years ago  ), so I'll try and get a list or two from an opponent tonight and post mine as well. Not a full battle report, more like an executive summary and maybe a picture of the board at deployment.e: Here's my list for tonight/tomorrow: Avatar of Khaine: 155 Total: 155 Farseer: 55 Runes of Warding: 15 Runes of Witnessing: 10 Guide: 20 Fortune: 30 Spirit stones: 20 Total: 150 2 squads/Dire Avengers: 240 Exarchs: +24 Bladestorm: +30 Total: 294 Shining Spears (4): 150 Exarch: +12 Skilled rider: +10 Star Lance: 15 Total: 187 Dark Reapers: 175 Exarch: +12 Fast shot: +10 Total: 197 Fire Prism: 115 Holo fields: 35 Spirit stones: 10 Shuriken cannon: 10 Total: 170 Allied detachment: Dark Eldar (battle brothers) Archon: 60 Venom blade: 5 Shadowfield: 30 Combat drugs: 10 Soultrap: 10 Haywire grenades: 10 Total: 135 Kabalite Warriors (10x2 squads): 180 2 splinter cannon: 20 Total: 200 Raiders: dedicated transport) x2: 120 Splinter racks: 20 Night shields: 20 Flicker field: 20 Total: 180 Void Raven: 145 4 shatterfield missiles: 40 Night shields: 10 Flickerfield: 10 Total: 205 Ravager: 105 Night shield: 10 Flickerfield: 10 Total: 125 Total for list: 1998 Thoughts/comments? Icon Of Sin fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Jul 14, 2012 |
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CyberLord XP posted:
Those paintjobs. Why.  And I have no idea what the pads are from, but they're not from any dread kit really.
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I think I've seen those shoulderpads on chapterhouse or something. They are supposed to be some ancient pre-heresy style terminator shoulders. Looked it up, these things? http://chapterhousestudios.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=85_86_88&product_id=233 They're not an exact match, but I think they're supposed to be the same thing. Also, those poor contemptors.
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Sole.Sushi posted:"I have real viking blood in me" I actually am 25% Norwegian FWIW 
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:e2: Now that Rod of the Covenant is a power axe, why would you ever run Praetorians when Lychguard have an extra attack and a 4++ save for 5 points more a model? Because Lychguard don't have fearless and aren't jump infantry. They're really not interchangeable units despite being made by the same kit and having roughly the same profile.
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FrickenMoron posted:And I have no idea what the pads are from, but they're not from any dread kit really. Pretty sure they're from one of the puppetswar dread weapon kits... 
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^^^^ Goddamn you!  CyberLord XP posted:
Puppetswar.com was making autocannons and stuff for walkers across all ranges for a while before GW got around to it. There's even one with that CCW you got there. bhsman posted:I actually am 25% Norwegian FWIW So you admit to being That Guy. 
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See, these pictures are great for me because I constantly give myself poo poo for my paint jobs, even when they're good. But these? These I can look at and, without a doubt, say "I can do far better than that." 
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Fuegan posted:I really hope those Contemptors are swimming in Simple Green by now  Fear not brother, the techpriests of Forgeworld Elkridge are relentless in their mission to bring wayward machines back into the fold. Kind of annoying about the shoulders, that means I don't have a single pair of actual contemptor shoulders. If I had one II could scratch up a second pair. Would any GW types give a crap about the ones I have there?
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bhsman posted:I actually am 25% Norwegian FWIW I'm 50% with dual citizenship. And I don't play space wolves. Your move. 
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Speaking of codex choices based on heritage, I really miss the old Deathwing motif I don't think homosexuality qualifies as heritage.
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