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quote:Terry Pratchett's Unseen Academicals Meh...didn't think much of the book. Maybe it'll work better as an adaption. But the one I'm waiting for is "Guards! Guards!" dammit! Or even "Men at Arms". precision posted:Basically this, yeah. Though I thought he was said at some point to have black hair and a black goatee? Yeah, I heard something along those lines too. Perhaps he decided not to go through with the effort of dying it, or what have you. I must say though, on the topic of the adapations, they've all tended to be rather hit and miss, I feel. I do like that they are long enough to give time for the narrative and characters to breathe, and not hurridly squashed into an hour special or something, but at the same time, they keep things in that don't really work for the adaption and are just there to pad it out, it seems. The Banshee in Going Postal was one of these, I felt. He doesn't really do a lot in the adaption, outside of killing Adora's brother - which I don't think happens in the book, unless someone can correct me., and just is sorta there.
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I think that the Hogfather adaptation was better than the book by a pretty decent margin. Seriously, everything in it just clicked and it was awesome, especially the casting for Susan and Teatime. But yeah, hit or miss. Going Postal was good, but if I hadn't read the book first I'm pretty sure I'd like it less because there were, as you mention, things that just kind of don't get a proper explanation or resolution. Also correct me if I'm wrong but didn't they cut the best dialogue exchange out? "Will you marry me?" "Not yet."
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Jul 11, 2012 01:01
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Apart from a few bits merged or dropped for time, the Hogfather one was the best one really. I hope a few years from now when CGI animation gets slightly less expensive we could see a Discworld CGI series following the more recent cover art style.
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Jul 11, 2012 03:41
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Pesky Splinter posted:Jeremy Irons without the glasses is how I imagine Vetenari to look in my head, 
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Jul 11, 2012 03:50
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This is pretty much how I always saw Vimes in my head, minus the glasses:
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Jul 11, 2012 04:00
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Vetinari is Hans Gruber in a cassock and with neater hair.
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Jul 11, 2012 08:19
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Vetinari should be played by Tiny Lister. Fifth Element proved that the man is a natural leader, and Dark Knight showed his emotional range and acting power.
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Jul 11, 2012 12:13
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One character I can never picture in my head is Angua. I think it is because I read the Last Hero and read Night Watch first and they had art for everyone but her so I had a literal picture for every other main character she interacted with.
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Jul 11, 2012 12:25
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Natural Joe posted:One character I can never picture in my head is Angua. I think it is because I read the Last Hero and read Night Watch first and they had art for everyone but her so I had a literal picture for every other main character she interacted with. I don't know if this is actually from the books, but I always imagined her as having curly red hair and being tallish and more muscular than the average Disc woman. Also kind of busty. Basically a werewolf pinup model. Actually I just realized this very instant I had somehow attributed the Kirby illustration of Conina to her. So never mind then. e: For some ungodly reason, in my head Carrot and Rand al'Thor look identical. precision fucked around with this message at 13:05 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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Jul 11, 2012 12:58
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Natural Joe posted:One character I can never picture in my head is Angua. I think it is because I read the Last Hero and read Night Watch first and they had art for everyone but her so I had a literal picture for every other main character she interacted with. This is Kidby's illustration of her (as a wolf as well), if it helps.  I think she looks too gaunt. And this is how she's portrayed in the Going Postal adaption:  Which is how she now looks in my mind's eye.
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Jul 11, 2012 19:25
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Pesky Splinter posted:And this is how she's portrayed in the Going Postal adaption: I love how obvious it was that last night was a hard night and she doesn't think tonight is going to be any better. Dirty Frank fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Jul 11, 2012 |
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Jul 11, 2012 19:46
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For physical descriptions... Angua is described as very attractive with a great body, so those both fit. Vimes is skinny and weatherbeaten and going bald at about 50. And a recovering alcoholic who smokes. However, he's also been way more physically active in the past 10-15 years than he ever was, so he'd have a sort of wiry but fight-experienced body. Carrot is a bodybuilder with a clean-cut, honest face. So basically Kevin Nash's body and someone like...hmm, I can't come up with a young male actor's face. Nobby is indescribable. Colon is fat and undeservedly  and not particularly charismatic. I could see him being played by Wayne Knight, (Newman from Seinfeld). What would be tough to get good actors for would be the Witches. Granny is not ugly but not attractive, either. Sort of a grouchy, stern humorless stoneface. An aged Captain Janeway? Nanny is a happy wrinkled prune with one tooth. Magrat is a walking stick who looks like she's about to cry all the time. This one is probably easier to cast. Agnes is a very large young girl, but apparently has nice hair. No idea who could play her successfully.
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Jul 11, 2012 19:55
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Dawn French could easily do Nanny Ogg
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Jul 11, 2012 20:26
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I always imagine a stern Julie Walters for Granny.
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Jul 11, 2012 21:32
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Granny could be played by Anne Robinson (The Weakest Link game show) assuming she'd dye her hair iron grey for the role. We already know she can be stern and sarcastic.  It's too bad that Jennifer Paterson died. She was on the cooking show "Two Fat Ladies", and she's very much like I pictured Nanny Ogg.  No idea about Magrat. Richard Griffiths could make a good Colon, he's large and pompous enough.  Scott Glenn looks very Vimes-like.  If you could get Steve Buscemi for Nobby, that would probably work too.
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Jul 11, 2012 23:10
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AlphaDog posted:Richard Griffiths could make a good Colon, he's large and pompous enough.
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Jul 11, 2012 23:15
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Pesky Splinter posted:This is Kidby's illustration of her (as a wolf as well), if it helps. Angua is one of those rare instances where Kidby completely fails to reach anything of the character. She's too weak looking, and she looks mean where she should look controlled. The show did a better job if only because it made her bigger and threw a bit of meat on her bones. Almost all of Kidby's other works are spot on. Rincewind is picture-perfect. Granny and Nanny are both fantastic (and Nanny looks almost exactly like my old granny, minus some hair!) and Magrat looks hilariously like a female Rincewind. He has about as solid a take on Vimes as anyone does, but he seems to be the most difficult character for almost everyone to describe to their satisfaction. Old-Thin-Eastwood definitely works for me more than Peter-Postelthwaite, but I would like to see him draw Vimes with Pete in mind just for a change. And because Pterry asked.
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Jul 11, 2012 23:55
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Granny is Anjelica Huston.  Mustrum Ridcully is Brian Blessed.
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Nilbop posted:Almost all of Kidby's other works are spot on. Rincewind is picture-perfect. Granny and Nanny are both fantastic (and Nanny looks almost exactly like my old granny, minus some hair!) and Magrat looks hilariously like a female Rincewind. He has about as solid a take on Vimes as anyone does, but he seems to be the most difficult character for almost everyone to describe to their satisfaction. Old-Thin-Eastwood definitely works for me more than Peter-Postelthwaite, but I would like to see him draw Vimes with Pete in mind just for a change. And because Pterry asked. Kidby drew a picture of young Granny Weatherwax as she was in Lords and Ladies, and holy gently caress balls is it amazing. The comment by Prattchet is that you can see it's her, by her eyes. And Kidby really puts this fiery glint in there. He nailed her look. And Nanny's. Magrat is kinda meh for me. And while Kidby didn't illustrate it, here is Postelthwaite-Vimes, from "Where is my Cow?"  I think Richard E Grant has a pretty good look for Vimes. 
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Jul 12, 2012 04:27
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rejutka posted:Mustrum Ridcully is Brian Blessed. Yes, yes he is.
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rejutka posted:Mustrum Ridcully is Brian Blessed. Motherfucking yes! For some reason, I've always pictured Vimes looking like Man at Arms from the He-Man cartoon, only with less goofy armour. Doctor Hix may be a relatively new character, but I've always imagined him as Rowan Atkinson as in Blackadder II. 
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Jul 12, 2012 05:52
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I recently watched the fairly recent BBC Dirk Gently miniseries (written/produced by Howard Overman of Misfits fame, and tldr it's really friggin' great) and holy poo poo, the guy who plays Dirk - Stephen Mangan - has got the exactly perfect look and perpetually-ready "oh shi- LEG IT!" attitude that would make the Best Rincewind. Seriously check it out, even if you're not a big Douglas Adams fan it's a fantastic 4 hours and I'd say better than the Pratchett adaptations bar Hogfather.
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I had no idea they had made a Dirk Gently mini-series  Is it on DVD yet or has it only just been aired?
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Rincewind will always sound like a much younger Eric Idle to me. And on the subject, the first Discworld game on the PC/PSX was insanely difficult. Anyone complete that thing without a guide?
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No, I don't think so, unless they literally tried everything on everyone everywhere. The dialogue was hilarious though, so it was worth trying everything with everyone. And it was actually my first foray into the Discworld series - my Dad had read all the books up til that point, and borrowed the game off one of his friends for me and my sister to play. And then I borrowed Guards! Guards! off him, and that was that. 
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Jul 12, 2012 16:06
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I expect you'd have to be really patient to put up with That doesn't work several thousand times. It still amuses me Terry acknowledged how bloody tough it was in Discworld 2's user manual.
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SeanBeansShako posted:I expect you'd have to be really patient to put up with That doesn't work several thousand times. Discworld 2 at least had more unique "that doesn't work" phrases. And better graphics. It seemed to get the Bursar and Dean mixed up entirely, though. That game's Archchancellor, though apparently a generic one, has become my mental voice for Ridcully.
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Dr Snofeld posted:Discworld 2 at least had more unique "that doesn't work" phrases. And better graphics. It seemed to get the Bursar and Dean mixed up entirely, though. That game's Archchancellor, though apparently a generic one, has become my mental voice for Ridcully. I quite liked the music better in Discworld 2, even the cheesy musical numbers. I'm pretty sure the Archchancellor had the same voice actor for both games.
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Speaking of Ridcully, I feel like he's had some of the coolest, very-subtle character growth of any minor character. At first I don't think Terry was sure what he wanted him to be, then he's a very un-wizzardly wizard that loves hunting and such, and then you get the big reveal about his youth and that he was in love with Esme and it's like... that's pretty cool, man.
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precision posted:Speaking of Ridcully, I feel like he's had some of the coolest, very-subtle character growth of any minor character. At first I don't think Terry was sure what he wanted him to be, then he's a very un-wizzardly wizard that loves hunting and such, and then you get the big reveal about his youth and that he was in love with Esme and it's like... that's pretty cool, man. Nah. Ridcully is the first arch-chancellor in ages that has survived. He comes across as an angry, shouty lunatic that will haul off at the slightest provocation. After a while, you realize that he does that up to the point of needing someone in charge to listen and, look, he's already doing that and so on. He is the Vetinari of magic*. * He is. His bailiwick is just a smaller purview. Also, he comes across different.
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Yeah, it's subtle (until Ponder flat out says it later on in the series) but Ridcully is not stupid, he's just like a drill sergeant or old British general: keep everyone in line by constantly screaming at them even when you're wrong. ESPECIALLY when you're wrong, because they'll still agree to everything you say and everyone stays the course.
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Mister Roboto posted:Ridcully is not stupid, he's just like a drill sergeant or old British general: keep everyone in line by constantly screaming at them even when you're wrong. Or an Oxford don with the volume set to maximum. It's not just Ridcully, but all the UU wizards as well who got a lot of characterization as Discworld hit its stride. Consider Equal Rites and (especially) Sourcery, where the wizards are essentially disposable, magic-happy spellslingers.
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Tardigrade posted:Or an Oxford don with the volume set to maximum. That was when Pratchett still was going for pure fantasy-parody instead of fantasy CULTURAL parody, where his true genius lay.
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SeanBeansShako posted:I quite liked the music better in Discworld 2, even the cheesy musical numbers. For the benefit of those who haven't played: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fczjCi73So8
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Dr Snofeld posted:For the benefit of those who haven't played: Oh hey, voices from Rob Brydon before he was famous? Cool!
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The_Doctor posted:Oh hey, voices from Rob Brydon before he was famous? Cool! Yep and he absofuckinglutely hated it; says in his autobiography that it drove him spare recording it.
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I want that game.  I hadn't heard of the UA miniseries. Sounds exciting. About to start Sourcery. Apparently it's not that good, but I liked Pterry's early stuff despite popular opinion, so maybe I'll enjoy this one too. 
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Dead Alice posted:Yep and he absofuckinglutely hated it; says in his autobiography that it drove him spare recording it. He did voice acting for Discworld Noir touhgh, which is also a really good game.
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Alhazred posted:He did voice acting for Discworld Noir touhgh, which is also a really good game. The best one really, as it had its own (slightly original) story. I liked the first two games but not a big fan of several plots of the book vaguely mashed together motiff they had.
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Alhazred posted:He did voice acting for Discworld Noir touhgh, which is also a really good game. Welp, that's what I get for not fact checking. It was indeed Noir he was referring to.
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