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aude omnia posted:I've mostly read maxi-series like Ex Machina, Y, Preacher, some of Fables, The Walking Dead, Doom Patrol, Planetary, etc. I guess I ought to look at this thread- I've caught up with BPRD after years out of the loop and now I need more comics. Read Saga. Edit: Let's put some  in here. It's by Brian K. Vaughan and so far is quite good. It's only on issue 4 I think so there's not a lot to track down.
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Len posted:Read Saga. I have been lending saga to friends who only bought trade paperbacks before. For three of them it is the first monthly comic they started buying. I realize that it is not to everybody's taste but it seems to be a dammed good gateway into the hobby. I really hope the quality keeps up.
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Office Sheep posted:I have been lending saga to friends who only bought trade paperbacks before. For three of them it is the first monthly comic they started buying. I realize that it is not to everybody's taste but it seems to be a dammed good gateway into the hobby. I really hope the quality keeps up. I was just about to post that as I've dove headfirst into comics a few months ago, Saga is the first ongoing monthly comic I've started, and it really is a great entryway into the hobby in general. I totally see the appeal of anticipating each month and I can only imagine the money I could've spent over the years. I've lent Saga to my female co-worker, who isn't normally into comics either, and we both can't take waiting each month for the next issue. It's fantastic stuff. Since then I've bought Y: The Last Man & Ex Machina off a friend who was selling all his comics to move away. I plan on starting Y very shortly - after I finish Brubaker's Criminal  .
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My mom is close to 70, and a couple of years ago she started asking me to read comics while she's on the can. Saga is now her favorite book ever. I'm glad the robot sex didn't turn her off.
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Bitchin Kitchen posted:My mom is close to 70, and a couple of years ago she started asking me to read comics while she's on the can. It was probably helpful that the opening line was "It feels like I'm making GBS threads."
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Bitchin Kitchen posted:My mom is close to 70, and a couple of years ago she started asking me to read comics while she's on the can.
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Jul 16, 2012 08:16
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Iggles posted:You're a very dedicated son I wasn't going to say anything. But yeah.
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Jul 16, 2012 08:21
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Oh only on the worst days do I actually have to sit there and read to her. She's a pretty big Greg Rucka fan and I heard he and Lark have a new Image book in the pipeline. Any idea what its about?
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Jul 16, 2012 16:58
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All we know is that it's dystopian science fiction, which is certainly enough to get me to pick it up.
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Jul 16, 2012 17:17
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Yeah that's a badass picture. 2013 is like so long away, though.
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Jul 16, 2012 20:13
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The most exciting thing for me from Image out of Comic Con was the Rios/DeConnick book. It's a western starring a disfigured assassin hunting down a bounty. There is no way that Rios doesn't completely kill it wth a western. 
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I've spent the last few days marking pages in Previews of stuff I'm excited for and I just want to share some stuff that people might miss in the hustle and bustle. Building Stories by Chris Ware. A massive box of little comics and mini-books detailing the lives of Chicago residents living in a three-story apartment. Ware's greatest strength is his characterization of quirky (but startling deep) characters and esoteric narrative that merges images and words in ways few other artists have accomplished. It's told in a non-linear style with no real beginning or end but all the stories are related. Goddamn This War! Jacques Tardi, creator of the popular Adele Blanc-Sec, returns with a companion piece to his critically acclaimed It Was the War of the Trenches. This new story is in full color and derives stylistically from his previous work while still being just as meticulously researched. WWI is kind of left behind in stories because WWII is more well documented so it's great to see an original, well researched story set in such a massive conflict. Woodwork is a big hardcover art book collecting the work of legendary cartoonist Wally Wood from a Spanish museum exhibit. The Daniel Clowes Reader collects the seminal Ghost World and almost a dozen other works by Clowes with some never being reprinted before since their original appearance in Eightball. Also includes Clowes' manifesto on the history of cartoons and new interviews with him on the industry and his life. If you've never read Clowes' work before then this is the perfect place to begin. The Artist at War collects Nick Cardy's pen-and-ink and watercolor illustrations from his two year service during WWII. I haven't read any of Cardy's comic book work but I love collecting art books and having one based on real history from a first hand experience is icing. Mattias Unfiltered collects select sketches from Swedish artist Mattias Adolfsson. I don't think he's done any comic work but hey, I can't pass up a good artbook and Adolfsson's art is reminiscent of a modern Richard Scarry with a pinch more robots and crazy contraptions. The Batman/Judge Dredd Collection. This one is special to me because it was my first Batman and Judge Dredd story. I remember my elementary school's book fair (seriously) had Judgment on Gotham on sale and it blew my mind for someone who was used to reading cartoony Tintin and watching BtaS. It also collects Vendetta in Gotham, The Ultimate Riddle, Die Laughing 1-2, and Psycho Bikers Vs. Mutants From Hell. I haven't read any but Judgment and I've heard the quality varies dramatically but the hand painted artwork kicked rear end and the concept of these two hardasses appearing in the same book was too good to be true. I know this is the indie recommendation thread but let's pretend this is more Judge Dredd than Batman, okay?
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al-azad posted:The Artist at War collects Nick Cardy's pen-and-ink and watercolor illustrations from his two year service during WWII. I haven't read any of Cardy's comic book work but I love collecting art books and having one based on real history from a first hand experience is icing. This is probably a silly question, but does anyone know where I can buy this? WW2 history is a passion of mine and I'd love to own some sketchbooks like this one.
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Happy Hedonist posted:This is probably a silly question, but does anyone know where I can buy this? WW2 history is a passion of mine and I'd love to own some sketchbooks like this one. Amazon has it listed for September 25.
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Jul 17, 2012 21:40
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Dammit, I looked but must have missed it last evening. Thank you.
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Jul 17, 2012 21:54
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Woodwork looks amazing
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Jul 18, 2012 00:21
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I haven't seen anyone mention Darwyn Cooke's adaptations of the Parker stories. They're long format books (100+ pages) published by IDW, with Vol. 1 the Hunter and Vol. 2 the Outfit released in 2010 and 2011 respectively, and Vol. 3 the Score just out this month. They're pretty much straight up adaptations of the pulpy Richard Stark heist novels with great monochrome art by Cooke that's reminiscent of 50s advertising pop art. It's definitely a lot pulpier than, say, Brubaker's Criminal, but if you're into crime stories they're definitely worth a look. It kinda makes me want to see someone try to adapt James Ellroy.
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Jul 19, 2012 08:05
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I just read through The Score over the past two nights and liked it, but not as much as the previous two. Still, it was a fun book, and recommended.
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Jul 19, 2012 14:27
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Saga always has an very interesting first page. Getting each monthly off to a strong start seems to be one of it's best aspects. !lso i love the cover for this month's issue.
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Jul 19, 2012 15:33
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Locke & Key HC vol 5 came out last week, and I just managed to get it. It is still very good, came up with some very satisfying answers and it sets everything up for a great final volume.
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Jul 19, 2012 15:34
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Endless Mike posted:I just read through The Score over the past two nights and liked it, but not as much as the previous two. Still, it was a fun book, and recommended. The Score and The Man With The Getaway Face, which came between The Hunter and The Outfit in the original books, are a little uneven because they're trying to transition Parker away from just wrecking the mob's poo poo for trying to kill him and into doing heists, and they hadn't quite found a footing yet. Still great though.
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This week's Glory was everything I could have hoped for. We finally get Glory suiting up and punching everything in sight into a fine red mist. And it continues the trend of increasingly crazy creatures. Last month we had a shark in a jetpack. This month, we are introduced to Glory's pet cat. Who has bat wings and shoots lasers from its eyes.
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Crossposting this from the shelf porn on display in the Hardcovers thread. (Yes, I realize there is no shelf nor are these hardcovers.) I'm reiterating just how good this series is. Every issue thus far has been outstanding and I'm wishing these came out every week! From beginning to end, it is truly captivating with gorgeous artwork. The writing has fully immersed you in this world and nothing feels out of the ordinary at any point. There's no excuse not to check this out as it's still so early in the series. I'm surprised there isn't more discussion on this.
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Darth Nat posted:This week's Glory was everything I could have hoped for. We finally get Glory suiting up and punching everything in sight into a fine red mist. And it continues the trend of increasingly crazy creatures. Last month we had a shark in a jetpack. This month, we are introduced to Glory's pet cat. Who has bat wings and shoots lasers from its eyes. People really don't talk about Glory enough. Everything about it is great and while I love Prophet I think I'm warming to Glory more. It probably helps that I really like Ross Campbells art and the dude draws Glory like a tank. Crossing over with Saga talk Fiona Staples drew some Glory fanart the other day.
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Dickeye posted:The Score and The Man With The Getaway Face, which came between The Hunter and The Outfit in the original books, are a little uneven because they're trying to transition Parker away from just wrecking the mob's poo poo for trying to kill him and into doing heists, and they hadn't quite found a footing yet. The Score is actually the fourth novel in the series, after the mafia trilogy of Hunter/Getaway Face/Outfit. It basically establishes the template for the rest of the series, wherein almost every novel is a caper story about a heist that gets fouled up for Parker by someone else's hidden agenda. The Score is my favorite of the Parker novels, but pretty much every book in the series is very enjoyable. I'm glad that I was able to find out about them through Brubaker mentioning them in the back of Criminal; I've read the whole series three times since 2008.
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Waterhaul posted:People really don't talk about Glory enough. Everything about it is great and while I love Prophet I think I'm warming to Glory more. It probably helps that I really like Ross Campbells art and the dude draws Glory like a tank. Crossing over with Saga talk Fiona Staples drew some Glory fanart the other day. I feel like it's flying under the radar probably because the main character is not to most peoples' sensibilities. The world is just not ready for Wonder Woman combined with the Incredible Hulk. But Campbell's really drawing the crap out of it. I love that he went completely bonkers with the alien designs instead of just sticking to one stock design like most comics would. And he managed to kind of endear me to the main villain just with that one panel of him sitting in a lawn chair in swimming trunks while the invasion is going on.
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Image made the baffling decision to relaunch Glory and Prophet with the original numbers. I'm sure there are many people like me who refuse to get into a series that's already deep in its production run (the recent one-shot of Chew is literally the first time I've hopped on an ongoing comic that was past issue 6 without reading the previous issues). There's no indication that these are reboots unless you take the time to research them and it's not like you can find the original stories in collected form (and coming from Liefeld, they're probably not very good!). So shame on Image for not completely renumbering the series especially when the originals are probably unknown and completely unavailable. They seem popular enough in a sleeper sort of way but I think they could be doing better if they began at #1. al-azad fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Jul 19, 2012 |
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I totally dismissed the series out of hand when I saw that Comixology only had issue #23 and up. gently caress if I'm jumping into a series midway. So, yeah, that seems like a bad decision.
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Jul 20, 2012 00:54
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My comic shop ordered zero of the new glory and then couldn't get the back issues so now I'm just waiting for the trade that comes out next month I think.
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Protocol 5 posted:It kinda makes me want to see someone try to adapt James Ellroy. James Robinson's Vigilante: City Lights, Prairie Justice miniseries from the late '90s (while he was writing Starman) is the most Ellroy-esque comic I've ever read, full of Hollywood glamour, glitz, gangsters, and sordid sleaze. The art sucks, but the TPB might be worth a read if you're as big an Ellroy fan as I am.
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Hiro Protagonist posted:How did Fatale turn out? Was the first volume any good? Fatale is still going and still great, and the first volume is even better read as a whole than as a monthly book. It's a Bru/Phillips book, what do you expect? They have yet to turn out a stinker.
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al-azad posted:Image made the baffling decision to relaunch Glory and Prophet with the original numbers. I'm sure there are many people like me who refuse to get into a series that's already deep in its production run (the recent one-shot of Chew is literally the first time I've hopped on an ongoing comic that was past issue 6 without reading the previous issues). There's no indication that these are reboots unless you take the time to research them and it's not like you can find the original stories in collected form (and coming from Liefeld, they're probably not very good!). I actually appreciate Image not giving either Prophet or Glory a new number one and bucking the thread of every book with a new creative team needs to be re-branded. Also (not that they ever would do it given it's Image) but I also like that they did not feel embarrassed/ashamed with continuing a series just because it has Liefields name attached. The last issue of Glory pre-reboot was like 15 years ago and people shouldn't feel the need to read everything, all of the books were advertised as "new jumping on point" and their own beasts too. Hiro Protagonist posted:How did Fatale turn out? Was the first volume any good? I legit don't think that you're going to get anyone say that a Brubaker/Phillips book is anything less than great.
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Waterhaul posted:I legit don't think that you're going to get anyone say that a Brubaker/Phillips book is anything less than great. I won't say that Fatale was less than great, but it certainly felt that way reading it monthly. It was very obviously written to be collected and was a much better read when I had the first story arc in my hands.
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I guess people shouldn't feel the need to read everything but with the way comics are branded I'm sure the vast majority feels like they should. I dislike the way comics are branded and distributed and I'd put all my money that a lot of people who want to get into them don't read them for the same reason. A book has information on the back or inside cover and usually includes chronology or a description of the series but comics lack the same kind of direct information approach that helps a random customer picking it up off the rack for the first time. In order to get into comics, you have to know about comics and it should be no surprise that the most popular question in the field is "Where do I begin?" Even Glory #23 said on the cover "1st issue in a bold new era for extreme." Um, no, it's not the 1st issue it's the 23rd! What am I missing? I really like how Mouse Guard handles issue numbering. Everything is based around a year or subtitle and they just start at #1 from there. I think it's a better idea than numbering everything sequentially starting at 1 and expecting a newcomer to automatically know which issues a trade covers. I wish print comics adapted the "start here!" approach from Webcomics by at least offering a recommended reading list in the inside cover. e: This has got me thinking. I think book-style back covers or inside cover blurbs should become industry standard because I rarely see them. If I were an editor I would go out of my way to include a "recommended reading list" or to ensure the customer that the work stands on its own and no further reading is required. I noticed Mega Man does the cheesy Silver Age style "See issue XX for details!" and while I wouldn't break the fourth wall like that I would really appreciate something like "See where this character got his new power: *insert trade here*, for further reading of this character: *insert ongoing issue here*" I just don't feel like the industry is being as direct and friendly as it could be. Sometimes it feels like a super secret club with a NO CASUALS ALLOWED sign but then we complain about low sales and lack of respect in the medium. al-azad fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Jul 20, 2012 |
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With some comic books I wish they didn't have a direct numbering system. Graham is only doing 12 issues of Prophet, so the whole thing should just be 1-12 with book title and arc title part X on the cover. Next team on the book, same treatment. Because of numbering on big two books, readers seem compelled to track down those #1's of recent reboots or low numbered books, or else they feel they are missing key elements of the story when they should just be focused on arcs.
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Six AM posted:Graham is only doing 12 issues of Prophet Thanks for ruining my day. 
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Six AM posted:Graham is only doing 12 issues of Prophet. Since when? He's said that he's down for doing 12 issues a year now, whereas before he thought it would be less frequent, but I'm pretty sure he's said he's got plans for a while still... Brandon Graham posted:As far as the main storyline, it'll mostly be Simon and Giannis, with me and Farel showing up for a few issues. I want to keep it pretty tight as the storylines get more involved. This sounds like more of a long game plan to me, from http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=39542
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Six AM posted:With some comic books I wish they didn't have a direct numbering system. Graham is only doing 12 issues of Prophet, so the whole thing should just be 1-12 with book title and arc title part X on the cover. Next team on the book, same treatment. Because of numbering on big two books, readers seem compelled to track down those #1's of recent reboots or low numbered books, or else they feel they are missing key elements of the story when they should just be focused on arcs. I agree with this as well. A lot of times no indication is made which issue of a story arc you're currently in. I would keep the issue total on the cover but would label it something like "Title: Story Arc Title - #X of X (total issue number in parenthesis)." Sometimes you'll see vague statements like "THRILLING CONCLUSION OF CHAPTER WHATEVER" plastered on the cover with no indication of where it actually began and at that point I'll just wait for the drat trade to do your job instead.
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bairfanx posted:I won't say that Fatale was less than great, but it certainly felt that way reading it monthly. It was very obviously written to be collected and was a much better read when I had the first story arc in my hands. To be honest I've only read the first issue as I prefer to read Brubakers work in trade but it was more a general statement of "if you like their past collabs you'll probably like this".
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