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ManMythLegend
Aug 18, 2003

I don't believe in anything, I'm just here for the violence.

Endless Mike posted:

What is your price range?

$100 or less.

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Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Paramour posted:

Sorry, yeah, the iPhone 5.

They've had that since October.

mugrim
Mar 2, 2007

The same eye cannot both look up to heaven and down to earth.
Provider: Sprint

Price Range: Getting a new phone with the renewal of my contract. so ~200 after discount

OS Preference: Android ICS or better

Ideas: I'm looking at the Galaxy series, specifically the Samsung Galazy S3 or Galaxy Nexus.

All the reviews I hear on the S3 are amazing, but I don't know about google's track record with updating the OS on other phones. The nexus apparently has a guarentee to update to JB, but the actual hardware on the S3 is supposed to be much better.

But maybe there's an even better option I'm missing?

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

mugrim posted:

but I don't know about google's track record with updating the OS on other phones.
Google isn't responsible for updating the OS on third-party phones. Basically they just release the Android source code, and it's up to third-party manufacturers (and in the case of branded devices, carriers also) to do everything else.

That said, past track record has been pretty bad. Samsung is pretty good about releasing new versions of Android for their flagship phones, but this big issue is when. For example, Sprint's predecessor to the SGS3, the Epic 4G Touch, is only right now getting its official ICS update despite the fact that ICS has been out for well over half a year. That said, ICS was a huge update, and hopefully things will go smoother for JB. But the SGS3 will definitely get it eventually.

mugrim posted:

But maybe there's an even better option I'm missing?
If you don't like the screen on either the Galaxy Nexus or the SGS3 (it's nearly identical between the two), you might consider the EVO LTE. But I think the downsides of that device (third-party updates, non-removable battery, etc.) make it a less attractive option than either the Galaxy Nexus or SGS3, unless you're really in love with its screen.

GEEKABALL
May 30, 2011

Throw out your hands!!
Stick out your tush!!
Hands on your hips
Give them a push!!
Fun Shoe
Country/Provider: USA, DFW / AT&T.

Plan: Provided by my employer, so I'm not sure of specifics. Unlimited voice nationwide, data is close to unlimited, no texting allowed.

Budget (phone/plan): I'll pay up to $199.99 (see below)

Features I know I want: Text with workmates is through Googletalk, and this needs to be available on my new phone. Primary use is voice, with email (through company exchange server) a close second. Some light web browsing.

The prices listed are MY out of pocket price.
Below are my choices:

Android Options
Motorola Atrix 2 – $99.00 + Tax
Samsung Galaxy SII - $99.00 + Tax
Samsung Galaxy SIII - $199.99 + Tax
Motorolla Atrix HD - $99.99 + tax
HTC One X - $199.99 + Tax
Samsung Rugby - Free

I don't want to pay $199.11 out of pocket unless the phone's features/capabilities warrant it. I am an Android newbie, but I'm confident my inexperience will not hinder me (much).

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



GEEKABALL posted:

Country/Provider: USA, DFW / AT&T.

Plan: Provided by my employer, so I'm not sure of specifics. Unlimited voice nationwide, data is close to unlimited, no texting allowed.

Budget (phone/plan): I'll pay up to $199.99 (see below)

Features I know I want: Text with workmates is through Googletalk, and this needs to be available on my new phone. Primary use is voice, with email (through company exchange server) a close second. Some light web browsing.

The prices listed are MY out of pocket price.
Below are my choices:

Android Options
Motorola Atrix 2 – $99.00 + Tax
Samsung Galaxy SII - $99.00 + Tax
Samsung Galaxy SIII - $199.99 + Tax
Motorolla Atrix HD - $99.99 + tax
HTC One X - $199.99 + Tax
Samsung Rugby - Free

I don't want to pay $199.11 out of pocket unless the phone's features/capabilities warrant it. I am an Android newbie, but I'm confident my inexperience will not hinder me (much).
Buy an iPhone 4S, DO NOT OPEN, sell it on Craiglist/Ebay/SA-Mart, buy an unlocked Galaxy Nexus direct from Google for $350. (Do this in whatever order you're comfortable with.)

GEEKABALL
May 30, 2011

Throw out your hands!!
Stick out your tush!!
Hands on your hips
Give them a push!!
Fun Shoe

Endless Mike posted:

Buy an iPhone 4S, DO NOT OPEN, sell it on Craiglist/Ebay/SA-Mart, buy an unlocked Galaxy Nexus direct from Google for $350. (Do this in whatever order you're comfortable with.)

Unfortunately my options are limited to the phones listed above. Also the phone is purchased by my company purchasing agent, so no juggling is allowed.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





For those prices, I would get the Galaxy S3 or the HTC One X. Whichever appeals to you more. Getting a Galaxy S2 for $99 seems silly when you can get the Galaxy S3 for $100 more.

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001
I've said this a few times elsewhere, but the One X and SGS3 on AT&T are very similar devices. In my opinion, if you like the two devices equally, the SGS3 is strictly better as it has (i) 2 GB of RAM vs 1 GB, (ii) a 2100 mAh removable battery instead of an 1800 mAh non-removable one, and (iii) a microSD card slot for expandable storage.

So, with that in mind there's two reasons to consider picking up the One X instead of just going with the SGS3 outright:

1. The One X has an SLCD screen that, while I wouldn't say it's "better", some folks greatly prefer over the SGS's PenTile AMOLED screen. This is really a preference thing, and I personally prefer the SGS3's screen, but others hate it. If you haven't seen them in person, you should really check out both devices at an AT&T store and compare them.

2. The One X ships with HTC's Sense UI, the SGS3 with Samsung's TouchWiz UI. I actually don't mind TouchWiz on the SGS3, it's pretty subdued in its latest iteration. But some folks like Sense more. Again, if you don't really care, TouchWiz is probably something you're not going to go wrong with. Should you dislike both, you can replace much of the UI with third-party launchers and apps from Google Play.

Also, apparently the One X has some lame multitasking bug. I don't know if that's carried over to the US version or not. For what it's worth, the US SGS3 is the most bug-free out-of-the-box Android phone I've used yet.

GEEKABALL
May 30, 2011

Throw out your hands!!
Stick out your tush!!
Hands on your hips
Give them a push!!
Fun Shoe

I actually did look at them both (the One X and the S3) at the ATT store, and my untrained eye could not see much of a difference.
My co-worker has the Galaxy S3, and he let me fondle it a bit. It is pretty impressive. It seems very snappy, and the screen looks bright and clear. I will probably go with this. Thanks Goons.

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

Country/Provider: US/Verizon

Current contract status: I pay like $80 for unlimited everything, including global data.

Budget (phone/plan): I'd be willing to pony up some money for a significantly better phone.

Features I know I want: Right now, I have a Droid 3. I've had it for years and I really like it. It has a touchscreen that is larger than the iPhones, a built in hardware keyboard that is quite nice, and it's a global phone. Basically, I want the same thing except with 4G and ICS or Jelly Bean + a bigass battery. I'm not sure what's out there, but the Droid 3 is starting to get a little antiquated. I'm sure I could root it to extend the lifespan of this guy a little longer, but it's just now starting to get freeze-y and unresponsive and a lot of features such as the built-in Camera app never worked right anyways.

So, in short: Hardware keyboard, touchscreen that is 4inches or bigger, works globally. I can give or take having 4G or the latest Droid OS, and I can even forgive not having such a big battery, as there are third party remedies for this. I'm just tired of having a phone that doesn't really work and an upgrade seems in order.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Country/Provider: US/Verizon

Current contract status: I pay like $80 for unlimited everything, including global data.

Budget (phone/plan): I'd be willing to pony up some money for a significantly better phone.

Features I know I want: Right now, I have a Droid 3. I've had it for years and I really like it. It has a touchscreen that is larger than the iPhones, a built in hardware keyboard that is quite nice, and it's a global phone. Basically, I want the same thing except with 4G and ICS or Jelly Bean + a bigass battery. I'm not sure what's out there, but the Droid 3 is starting to get a little antiquated. I'm sure I could root it to extend the lifespan of this guy a little longer, but it's just now starting to get freeze-y and unresponsive and a lot of features such as the built-in Camera app never worked right anyways.

So, in short: Hardware keyboard, touchscreen that is 4inches or bigger, works globally. I can give or take having 4G or the latest Droid OS, and I can even forgive not having such a big battery, as there are third party remedies for this. I'm just tired of having a phone that doesn't really work and an upgrade seems in order.

If you want to keep unlimited Internet you MUST buy your phone outright, any contract upgrade forces you to 2GBs of data. It sucks and there is no way around it.

Keyboards are bastard children for smartphones, the reason your phone sucks is that not enough people buy keyboard phones anymore, so neither manufacturer nor carrier put a lot of effort into them (there are other reasons but I think this is key). So you can either have a hardware keyboard, or a phone with a big screen that works.

If you want a phone that works you should look at one of two phones on Verizon: Galaxy Nexus or RAZR Maxx. In a nutshell, the Nexus has better software support and better screen, the RAZR has ridiculous battery life. Compare the two, pick the one you keep more. You will have to buy them sans contract, but y could find one for a decent price at this point if you look around ebay or Craig list. I personally think the Nexus is the better buy.

The iphone is a great option as well, but is more expensive outright, no 4g and smaller screen. So I personally would say you should lean towards the razr or nexus. The S3 is a good phone but is brand new and probably still expensive outright.

Again, keyboard phones are bastard children.

Guilty
May 3, 2003
Ask me about how people having a bad reaction to MSG makes them racist, because I've never heard of gluten sensitivity
I have an unlocked GNex that I got in Germany. Will be in the States for two months, was debating on what kind of plan I should get, or if I even need one. Are there any recommendations for cheap temporary plans? Is it possible to get a data plan to go along with it?

Tyro
Nov 10, 2009
Guilty, check out the prepaid android megathread, you'll probably want either straight talk or the tmobile SIM, depending on your usage and where you will be.

Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Country/Provider: US/Verizon

Current contract status: I pay like $80 for unlimited everything, including global data.

Budget (phone/plan): I'd be willing to pony up some money for a significantly better phone.

Features I know I want: Right now, I have a Droid 3. I've had it for years and I really like it. It has a touchscreen that is larger than the iPhones, a built in hardware keyboard that is quite nice, and it's a global phone. Basically, I want the same thing except with 4G and ICS or Jelly Bean + a bigass battery. I'm not sure what's out there, but the Droid 3 is starting to get a little antiquated. I'm sure I could root it to extend the lifespan of this guy a little longer, but it's just now starting to get freeze-y and unresponsive and a lot of features such as the built-in Camera app never worked right anyways.

So, in short: Hardware keyboard, touchscreen that is 4inches or bigger, works globally. I can give or take having 4G or the latest Droid OS, and I can even forgive not having such a big battery, as there are third party remedies for this. I'm just tired of having a phone that doesn't really work and an upgrade seems in order.

The iPhone is probably your best bet, although it has caveats of its own. The big thing about the iPhone is that it just works, no fuckery required. The only Android phone that's close to this is the Galaxy Nexus, and the Verizon Nexus doesn't fit you because no global roaming.

The major caveats to the iPhone right now is no LTE and there's a new iPhone right around the corner. If you need a new phone right this moment, the 4S will serve you very well for 2 years. It's guaranteed to be good for the life of your contract, and then some. The only Android devices that come close to this have "Nexus" in their name. If you really want LTE, need a phone now and are willing to buy an iPhone at full price you can resell a 4S for a new iPhone in the fall.

Guilty posted:

I have an unlocked GNex that I got in Germany. Will be in the States for two months, was debating on what kind of plan I should get, or if I even need one. Are there any recommendations for cheap temporary plans? Is it possible to get a data plan to go along with it?

Lucky for you, there's actually decent prepaid plans in the U.S. now. T-Mobile has one for $30/month, with 5 GB of data and 100 minutes and unlimited texts. You can also go with StraightTalk but you trade a big data bucket for a smaller, undefined one in the 1-2 GB range for unlimited minutes. It also costs more at $45/month.

Coverage might matter to you too. T-Mobile works pretty well in urban areas, but if you're traveling outside that for most of your time, you can use AT&T's network with StraightTalk which provides more robust coverage outside urban areas.

kbar
Aug 9, 2002

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Right now, I have a Droid 3. I've had it for years and I really like it.
That's a pretty good trick, seeing as the Droid 3 was released last July. :)

As much as I dislike Motorola's poo poo, the writing's sort of on the wall with this one. Need a hardware keyboard, global roaming, and to preserve your unlimited Verizon data plan? Congrats, you're getting a Droid 4 off of eBay or craigslist. If Verizon's Galaxy Nexus had global roaming I'd tell you to get over the keyboard poo poo, but I guess we're stuck on that one. I know you said you don't care about 4G, but Verizon's domestic LTE network is poo poo-your-pants amazing and is basically the only reason to tolerate their batshit terrible pricing and obnoxiously curated phone selection (seriously, you could have a cooler phone, a lower bill, and easier international roaming on T-Mobile). That said, a grandfathered unlimited Verizon plan is worth holding onto, basically forever.

It's pretty adorable what lengths Godzilla07 will go to to recommend iPhones to people.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Godzilla07 posted:

The iPhone is probably your best bet, although it has caveats of its own. The big thing about the iPhone is that it just works, no fuckery required. The only Android phone that's close to this is the Galaxy Nexus, and the Verizon Nexus doesn't fit you because no global roaming.

The major caveats to the iPhone right now is no LTE and there's a new iPhone right around the corner. If you need a new phone right this moment, the 4S will serve you very well for 2 years. It's guaranteed to be good for the life of your contract, and then some. The only Android devices that come close to this have "Nexus" in their name. If you really want LTE, need a phone now and are willing to buy an iPhone at full price you can resell a 4S for a new iPhone in the fall.
Um, based on his post, where do you get iPhone from? It meets literally none of his desires beyond battery life and "working."

Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

kbar posted:

It's pretty adorable what lengths Godzilla07 will go to to recommend iPhones to people.

The Sensation broke me. A phone that should have been better, but garbage build quality and it never got much in the way of dev support at all.

kbar
Aug 9, 2002

HTC hasn't put out a winner since the Nexus One/DroidInc/O.G. Evo, in my opinion. Even the One X is hamstrung with a lovely DAC, and frankly at the speed these guys are iterating it gets really tiresome to have sit and wait for the community to fix the vomitware they're preloading with Android.

I understand your disenchantment with Android, but the Galaxy Nexus and the Nexus S are incredibly formidable devices at their respective price points. The Galaxy S III is a complicated story with a lot of caveats (as most Galaxy S stories are!) and the Verizon GNex had some early issues, but really -- both Nexuses are very solid recommendations.

I'm daydreaming, ITT. Someone should build a phone with:

- Snapdragon S4
- Galaxy S III's camera
- HTC One X's display
- Wolfson WM1811 DAC from Galaxy S IIII
- Stock Jelly Bean and an unlocked bootloader
- button-free Galaxy Nexus body style
- Simultaneous launch of an HSPA+ unlocked version and Verizon and AT&T LTE versions

That's a phone I'd buy the loving poo poo out of

kbar
Aug 9, 2002

ExcessBLarg! posted:

1. The One X has an SLCD screen that, while I wouldn't say it's "better", some folks greatly prefer over the SGS's PenTile AMOLED screen. This is really a preference thing, and I personally prefer the SGS3's screen, but others hate it. If you haven't seen them in person, you should really check out both devices at an AT&T store and compare them.
I'm really surprised to see this from you. The Galaxy Nexus's display gets a pass because 720p is loving dense at 4.65" and because it crushed everything that came before it, but the One X's display is pretty objectively superior. I'm a big fan of the Galaxy Nexus and -- like you -- I prefer AMOLED where possible, but it's disconcerting to see Samsung blowing it up a little and leaving PenTile intact on the GS III, and it's downright fugly on the Galaxy Note.

The display is the one thing about the One X that really shines.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



kbar posted:

- Galaxy S III's camera
The good Sony one that some units get or the lovely Samsung one others get? Samsunged again. :(

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

kbar posted:

That's a pretty good trick, seeing as the Droid 3 was released last July. :)

As much as I dislike Motorola's poo poo, the writing's sort of on the wall with this one. Need a hardware keyboard, global roaming, and to preserve your unlimited Verizon data plan? Congrats, you're getting a Droid 4 off of eBay or craigslist. If Verizon's Galaxy Nexus had global roaming I'd tell you to get over the keyboard poo poo, but I guess we're stuck on that one. I know you said you don't care about 4G, but Verizon's domestic LTE network is poo poo-your-pants amazing and is basically the only reason to tolerate their batshit terrible pricing and obnoxiously curated phone selection (seriously, you could have a cooler phone, a lower bill, and easier international roaming on T-Mobile). That said, a grandfathered unlimited Verizon plan is worth holding onto, basically forever.

It's pretty adorable what lengths Godzilla07 will go to to recommend iPhones to people.

I'm thinking this is the route I'm gonna go. The one thing kinda holding me back on a Droid 4 is the lack of removeable battery (and thus, irreplaceable). In my lifetime, nearly every phone I've ever had has had to be hard resetted by taking the battery out a few times towards the end of their life. I also recently found out that there's a software update that allows the Droid 4 to work overseas so I think I'll be getting that. I guess a millenial leap forward just isn't possible when I want a hardware keyboard :(

Also, iPhone dude: really? Really? REALLY?

kbar
Aug 9, 2002

That's a silly hangup, I'm pretty sure there's a hard button on there that acts like a battery pull (or something).

It really would be worth your time to try a Nexus device (or, heh, an iPhone) sometime for just a month or so. Many, many people (myself included) found that while they aren't quite able to hit hardware keyboard typing speeds whilst thwocking thumbs on glass, they can get pretty drat close. I'm assuming Motos/HTCs/non-Nexus Samsungs have stupidfuck aftermarket keyboards preloaded that somehow make the experience magically shittier.

The extra bulk, the loss of rigidity, and the anemic device selection make hardware keyboards sort of a not-worth-it-anymore tradeoff.

Guilty
May 3, 2003
Ask me about how people having a bad reaction to MSG makes them racist, because I've never heard of gluten sensitivity

Godzilla07 posted:


Lucky for you, there's actually decent prepaid plans in the U.S. now. T-Mobile has one for $30/month, with 5 GB of data and 100 minutes and unlimited texts. You can also go with StraightTalk but you trade a big data bucket for a smaller, undefined one in the 1-2 GB range for unlimited minutes. It also costs more at $45/month.

Coverage might matter to you too. T-Mobile works pretty well in urban areas, but if you're traveling outside that for most of your time, you can use AT&T's network with StraightTalk which provides more robust coverage outside urban areas.
Thanks, tyro also. Will look into that. I think I will mostly be in the suburbs and urban areas. Will it work on my European phone ok? I know the US has different cell technology, I always forget who has what.


edit: vvv awesome, thanks guys!

Guilty fucked around with this message at 16:52 on Jul 19, 2012

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Guilty posted:

Thanks, tyro also. Will look into that. I think I will mostly be in the suburbs and urban areas. Will it work on my European phone ok? I know the US has different cell technology, I always forget who has what.
AT&T, T-Mobile, and small carriers that run on their bands should work at least for voice and some level of data without issue. StraightTalk, mentioned above, runs on AT&T (or certain versions do?).

Basically, this isn't an issue since you won't be able to get a Verizon or Sprint SIM anywhere but Verizon or Sprint, so just don't go there!

Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

Guilty posted:

Thanks, tyro also. Will look into that. I think I will mostly be in the suburbs and urban areas. Will it work on my European phone ok? I know the US has different cell technology, I always forget who has what.

You've got a Galaxy Nexus, so T-Mobile and StraightTalk (AT&T) will work and have HSPA+ without issue.

dorkasaurus_rex
Jun 10, 2005

gawrsh do you think any women will be there

kbar posted:

That's a silly hangup, I'm pretty sure there's a hard button on there that acts like a battery pull (or something).

It really would be worth your time to try a Nexus device (or, heh, an iPhone) sometime for just a month or so. Many, many people (myself included) found that while they aren't quite able to hit hardware keyboard typing speeds whilst thwocking thumbs on glass, they can get pretty drat close. I'm assuming Motos/HTCs/non-Nexus Samsungs have stupidfuck aftermarket keyboards preloaded that somehow make the experience magically shittier.

The extra bulk, the loss of rigidity, and the anemic device selection make hardware keyboards sort of a not-worth-it-anymore tradeoff.

I genuinely use mine every day. I spend a lot of time posting news articles, writing emails, and posting on the forums from my mobile device, and having a full-fledged mobile keyboard makes it much easier. Also, sometimes it's just flat out easier to browse a page or play a game with arrow keys than with a touchscreen, which will inevitably smudge and get greasy as I touch it more.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

I genuinely use mine every day. I spend a lot of time posting news articles, writing emails, and posting on the forums from my mobile device, and having a full-fledged mobile keyboard makes it much easier. Also, sometimes it's just flat out easier to browse a page or play a game with arrow keys than with a touchscreen, which will inevitably smudge and get greasy as I touch it more.

Tons of people do as much and more as you do with their onscreen keyboards. You're just going to have to give it up. Physical keyboards are dead.

Rastor
Jun 2, 2001

Not dead, just targeted to cheap phones for texting tweeners, rather than top-end specced phones.


Edit: but a small part of me still hopes for a Droid 5 with a great display.

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

kbar posted:

but the One X's display is pretty objectively superior.
The One X's display is objectively superior in one metric, which is subpixel count and translates to "better display clarity." Of course, to achieve that requires giving up AMOLED in favor of SLCD, and neither of these two display technologies is inherently superior, they're very much competitors and (some) people have their preference.

Furthermore, the One X and SGS3 screens are best-in-class for SLCD and AMOLED respectively, it's not like they have 4.8" 720p RGB stripe AMOLED screens out that you could get, if they did I'd recommend it in a heartbeat. That's why I claim these screens are more about user preference rather than which one is objectively superior.

As for 4.65" vs 4.8", those screen sizes have "DPIs" (which isn't quite accurate due to their being PenTile, but the comparison is still valid) of 316 and 306 respectively. With my worsening presbyopia, both of these DPIs are past threshold such that I can't see the PenTile artifacts with my contacts on and at the same time, I appreciate the slightly larger display. If this were 5-10 years ago I might be complaining about the DPI more.

(That said I'm also quite myopic, so I can see the artifacts when I'm not wearing corrective lenses and holding the phone two inches from my eye, but that's not very often and not something I'm concerned about.)

kbar posted:

The display is the one thing about the One X that really shines.
Yes of course this is true. But that's my point, it's the only reason to give the AT&T One X a look since the SGS3 is equal or superior in every other metric.

Anyways, the differences between the two displays are pretty much aesthetic. They're comparable in size and, having the same "advertised" resolution they'll have the same amount of compatibility/incompatibility with non-resolution-independent apps and such.

dorkasaurus_rex posted:

Also, sometimes it's just flat out easier to browse a page or play a game with arrow keys than with a touchscreen, which will inevitably smudge and get greasy as I touch it more.
What? The only circumstance I can imagine it's far easier to browse websites with arrow keys is bad RSI. There's no precision with them.

Touchscreens are meant to be touched, you can be weird about it and get a stylus or something, but seriously it's worth getting over as they're quite liberating otherwise. Just pick up a microfiber cloth to wipe with once a day and it won't be that bad.

ExcessBLarg! fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jul 19, 2012

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



ExcessBLarg! posted:

Touchscreens are meant to be touched, you can be weird about it and get a stylus or something, but seriously it's worth getting over as they're quite liberating otherwise. Just pick up a microfiber cloth to wipe with once a day and it won't be that bad.
Or just put it in your pocket when you're not using it. Or do only iPhones have an oleophobic coating?

Jer
May 23, 2003

nba balla/entrapenour
--
Country/Provider: USA/Verizon

Current contract status: 12 months left, individual postpaid plan. $80 for 450 minutes, 500 texts, grandfathered unlimited 3G data.

Budget (phone/plan): Anything that either gives me more utility or is cheaper than what I'm already paying.
--

I could really use some help - I got an Incredible 2 awhile back and I've never really taken the time to analyze whether or not I'm getting hosed on my wireless bill. It feels like I am; I mainly use my unlimited data plan for messaging/e-mail and I'm well below 1 GB per month.

I just got a Nexus 7 and after loading it up with Google Voice, I just use it for texting/messaging/whatever. I wonder if I even need a goddamn phone anymore - would it make sense to just get a dedicated 4G wireless hotspot (cheaper monthly fee and a bigger pipe, although I'd be giving up unlimited but who cares), carry that around and tether it to my Incredible/Nexus 7? Dumb idea?

Any suggestions on how to improve my situation would be really helpful! :)

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

Country/Provider: USA/US Celluar

Current contract status: on a family plan, but dad is ending it in a month or less. unlimited texts, 450 minutes, no data for about $50 a month

Budget (phone/plan): budget is around the same, but I hope to get a better phone/service than I'm getting now

I'm in boston for a month or two and then I'm going back to maine, might move around a bit but prolly remain in maine for at least a year.

I definitely need a phone, I would like to get an android (I had my eyes on a galaxy nexus) but I don't need it. Having a data plan would be convenient but they're all so stupidly expensive for what little you get for bandwidth.

kbar
Aug 9, 2002

Jer posted:

I could really use some help - I got an Incredible 2 awhile back and I've never really taken the time to analyze whether or not I'm getting hosed on my wireless bill. It feels like I am; I mainly use my unlimited data plan for messaging/e-mail and I'm well below 1 GB per month.
You're getting hosed on your wireless bill because you're (1) paying for discrete text messaging that could be dropped, and (2) you decided it was a good idea to pay Verizon prices for a 3G phone in spite of them having a pretty lovely 3G network.

Verizon's 4G (LTE) network on the other hand, is great, and even if you don't see a reason to use >1GB data/month today, you'd be foolish to discard an unlimited Verizon plan. Basically you want to get onto an LTE phone right away. There are two correct ways to handle this, one is more of a pain in the rear end and the other is simple.

1) Drop the text package (use Google Voice instead); this should drag your bill to $70/month + bullshit taxes/fees. Do you have a corporate e-mail account or an @*.edu e-mail address available? Either one could save you some money every month on Verizon; my old university e-mail address got me 18% off.

Buy a cheap first-gen LTE phone off of craigslist/eBay just so that you've got something that will vonnect to Verizon's LTE network, make calls on their voice network, and get you an LTE SIM card. HTC Thunderbolt and Samsung Droid Charge should be $100ish used. Neither is a very impressive smartphone and both are poster-children for why manufacturers should not touch the operating system -- oh hey and they have lovely battery life, too. But, they'll get you the LTEs and they'll do so cheaply. Augment this with a Verizon LTE "MiFi" puck hotspot-thing. Even though you'll have a voice plan, you can actually get unlimited data on a MiFi by just putting your active LTE SIM into it (Verizon may tell you this doesn't work, but it very much does). An unlimited LTE MiFi puck for 70 bucks a month is actually pretty awesome, and I still drop my SIM into my puck pretty regularly. You should be able to find a Verizon Novatel 4510L on craigslist for under 90 bucks. With a puck, you can get your laptop, your tablet, and even a smartphone (without a data package) online all at once. You could take the SIM out of your MiFi and put it into the cheap LTE phone you bought earlier in this paragraph everytime you want to make or receive calls and tap your 450 minute bucket with Verizon, but it's kind of a huge pain in the rear end and not worth doing (ask me how I know). Your best bet here is to buy a secondhand smartphone that'll work with T-Mobile Prepaid so that you can place calls for $0.10/minute, and just leave it connected to the puck over Wi-Fi for data.

I did this for awhile, but ultimately got sick of having to keep two things charged and on me when I left the house (prepaid smartphone and the MiFi). If you legitimately never place or receive calls and wouldn't be inconvenienced by not having that capability, then yeah dude, gently caress it. Just keep a MiFi and the Nexus7 in your bag and dance all night.

2) This is the much easier option. Still drop texts and investigate discounts, but just get a Galaxy Nexus off of craigslist (expect to spend $250-300ish). With a pretty trivial level of effort you can put Jelly Bean on it, and voila, you basically have a Nexus 7 that's a couple inches smaller, a little slower, fits in your pocket, and makes calls. You can use FoxFi (check Google Play) to tether to your tablet, but tethering on a phone is much shittier than using a MiFi.

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If you get a hotspot plan from Verizon, you're going to be paying $50/month for 1GB of data. If you follow option #1 you'll be paying $70/month for unlimited data. In my opinion, it's not worth saving 30% for an anemic data cap that will be incredibly loving easy to run over if you ever decide you enjoy Spotify, YouTube, or you know, actually using the internet at all.

GreenBuckanneer just get a GNex off of Google Play for $349 and do the $45/month Straight Talk plan everyone recommends. If you can use 100 minutes a month or less, do the $30/month T-Mobile prepaid plan. Done.

GreenBuckanneer
Sep 15, 2007

kbar posted:

GreenBuckanneer just get a GNex off of Google Play for $349 and do the $45/month Straight Talk plan everyone recommends. If you can use 100 minutes a month or less, do the $30/month T-Mobile prepaid plan. Done.

Yeah I don't call much, but I text a lot, and I figure if I have data i'd use that instead.

kbar
Aug 9, 2002

Sounds like you're good to go, then.

ExcessBLarg! posted:

But that's my point, it's the only reason to give the AT&T One X a look since the SGS3 is equal or superior in every other metric.
Sorry if I was unclear, I don't think anyone should buy the One X basically ever. I'm enough of a zealot to believe that you really shouldn't be buying the SGS III either, unless you're going to hack it (and even then, wait until the custom ROM situation is particularly ripe). It pains me to see non-enthusiasts buying these loving shitbrick phones with no concept of what they're (not) getting, especially when the Galaxy Nexus is so cheap, so palatable, and so Jelly Bean.

I'm just saying that in a vaccuum (or a hypothetical spec-your-own-phone laboratory) it seems like an easy pick to go with the One X's display right now. I'm under the impression that they got the black levels and battery life on that display pretty similar to current AMOLEDs (thus equalizing AMOLED's biggest advantages), but I haven't really kept up with the side-by-sides on these two.

But yeah, objectively, and purely from a hardware perspective, the best full-package phones on the market are the international SGS III followed by the domestic SGS III's.

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

Country/Provider: UK/Vodafone

Current contract status: Finished 2 year contract, £30 a month 1GB data, 100 minutes calls 500 texts. I've been offered upgrade options or am free to look at other networks.

Budget (phone/plan): Contract wise: £20-25 ideally, could probably manage up to £75 or so for the handset.

OS: ICS at least, would like something I can put a JB ROM on.

Looking for something a bit cheaper in terms of contract, I could reduce the number of minutes or texts but generally my data usage is getting up towards the limit. Realistically though I could probably drop it to 500mb and make sure I use wireless more. In terms of networks I'm open but usually end up using the phone in Europe 5 or 6 times a year (or more) and the Vodafone passport pricing is very attractive as I can use data/calls, etc. abroad without worrying too much about cost. Ideally I'd like to get down to £20 or £25 a month in terms of bills.

Phone: Currently on a Nexus One, I'm more looking at upgrade options right now because I've got the opportunity. I really like the look of the SIII but, frankly it's physically too big. I keep my phone in my pocket and don't want it poking out the top all the time. The Google Nexus is a nice device but 16GB and no expansion rules it out. Currently I've got about that much storage space used with just music, the cloud is nice but I'm in places with crappy/non-existent data signal often enough to not make it an option.

If I'm not happy going with a huge screen and want something with decentish battery life (the comparisons I saw all seem to peg HTC phones way shorter than any others) and enough processing power to run a couple of the more intensive apps (fed up with Gallery taking forever to load and sometimes use Skype, which seems really resource intense) am I just better off waiting for the current generation to get re-released in smaller budget models? Or is there something I'm overlooking?

Godzilla07
Oct 4, 2008

You would think that with Android, a manufacturer would make a device with all the features of a high-end device and have it in a smaller size too, but this hasn't happened. For you the HTC One S is almost there but it's stuck at 16 GB too.

Your best option is a Galaxy S III. There is a 32 GB option, and it has a microSD slot. You're stuck with waiting on updates, but the international Galaxy S phones have been pretty okay in terms of support with the aftermarket at least. It's the U.S. ones that get clusterfucked, and even that seems to have improved.

UnquietDream
Jul 20, 2008

How strange that nobody sees the wonder in one another
Country/Provider: UK/Orange

Current contract status: Pay as you go, Orange.

Budget (phone/plan): Probably going to go with a SIM only contract with T-mobile, it looks like I can get a good deal for 13 a month (750mb internet and enough phone/text minutes that I won't be able to fully consume) considering I spend 10 quid a month already.

OS: Android

Phone: Samsung Galaxy Nexus

My main query is basically how much it will cost, I see some on Amazon for £274 but I'm not sure how reliable 'Foneshop' is. One the comments also mentions that it might be an LCD screen rather than AMOLED. As much as I would love to get a cheap price I'd much rather make sure that before I put down that amount of money that I'm actually going to get what I want. So basically can anyone vouch for a reliable retailer that hopefully has the best price available?

UnquietDream fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Jul 21, 2012

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CatchrNdRy
Mar 15, 2005

Receiver of the Rye.
If I buy a cheap unlocked phone for international travel, do I just need to match the GSM frequency with the country I'm going to?

So if I get this Motorola Slvr L2, (allegedly with world phone support, whatever that means), all I need to do is buy a local SIM card and jam it in there?

I'm looking for any less than $35 used, international phone, GSM 900.

CatchrNdRy fucked around with this message at 02:18 on Jul 21, 2012

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