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Mercurius
May 4, 2004

Amp it up.

ufarn posted:

It's also worth seeing what effect Mountain Lion has on this.
Err yeah, I should have mentioned that. I'm running the Mountain Lion GM.

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DigitalChaos
Aug 18, 2003
Does anyone have a recommendation for rapidly swapping the bluetooth-only Magic Trackpad between machines? When I swap laptops on my desk setup everything is incredibly easy with the single thunderbolt cable running to my Thunderbolt Display. The Display acts as a hub for everything. The Trackpad is the one thing that sucks.

Is there software out there to deal with this problem? Is there a bluetooth USB dongle that I can pair the devices with so they stick to the dongle instead of the laptop? I have 2 or 3 dedicated machines and need to swap them out about 4 times per day. I've mostly given up on even using the trackpad because of it.

kloa
Feb 14, 2007


DigitalChaos posted:

Does anyone have a recommendation for rapidly swapping the bluetooth-only Magic Trackpad between machines? When I swap laptops on my desk setup everything is incredibly easy with the single thunderbolt cable running to my Thunderbolt Display. The Display acts as a hub for everything. The Trackpad is the one thing that sucks.

Is there software out there to deal with this problem? Is there a bluetooth USB dongle that I can pair the devices with so they stick to the dongle instead of the laptop? I have 2 or 3 dedicated machines and need to swap them out about 4 times per day. I've mostly given up on even using the trackpad because of it.

Can you just turn off bluetooth for the devices you no longer need the trackpad for?

ilc23
Jun 30, 2012
Can Macbook Pro's boot off the SD drive?

Polymerized Cum
May 5, 2012
Since I found out that my iPad does 99% of what I use my laptop for, I am in the process of replacing my 15" MacBook Pro with one of the shiny new Sandy Bridge Mac Minis.

I will likely be buying a $579 refurb model, and then using the iFixit kit to convert it to a SSD for OSX and a HDD for storage. So, two questions...

1) What size SSD should I get for a boot drive? It only has to contain OSX + iLife +iWork, and maybe a little elbow room for the future. I don't use Logic Pro or Aperture or any huge suites, so i'm thinking... 128gb?

2) For the storage drive, should I go with 5,400rpm or 7,200rpm? I am guessing the slower one will run cooler and quieter, but will it be fast enough to play HD movies and stuff without stuttering?

Thanks in advance.

Digital Jesus
Sep 11, 2001

I don't see why not, but I haven't actually tried. I'll grab a blank SD card tonight and have a look.

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

ilc23 posted:

Can Macbook Pro's boot off the SD drive?
Yes, or at least with Lion you can.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

ilc23 posted:

Can Macbook Pro's boot off the SD drive?

Yes, but I'm sure it's painfully slow. Although, I've booted Snow Leopard off an Intel SSD connected with USB 2.0 and it wasn't really that bad.

Polymerized Cum posted:

1) What size SSD should I get for a boot drive? It only has to contain OSX + iLife +iWork, and maybe a little elbow room for the future. I don't use Logic Pro or Aperture or any huge suites, so i'm thinking... 128gb?

In the past I'd say get a 60/64GB drive, but a 120/128GB really isn't much more. They used to be $200, but now they are $70-$100 on sale. A 64GB drive is going to only be $60-$90, so just get the bigger one.

Polymerized Cum posted:

2) For the storage drive, should I go with 5,400rpm or 7,200rpm? I am guessing the slower one will run cooler and quieter, but will it be fast enough to play HD movies and stuff without stuttering?

Modern 5,400 RPM laptop drives will still run at the very least 60MB/s if not 100MB/s for a 1 TB model

Oneiros
Jan 12, 2007



ilc23 posted:

Can Macbook Pro's boot off the SD drive?

There really isn't much that you can't boot a mac/OS X off of. Keep in mind, though, that 2010 and prior MBPs had the SD reader on a USB bus with all the limitations that entails. The 2011 and later models moved it to the PCI bus IIRC.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
Can you boot Windows off the optibay or is it locked to booting off the HDD on the 2010 13"?

ilc23
Jun 30, 2012

BlackMK4 posted:

Can you boot Windows off the optibay or is it locked to booting off the HDD on the 2010 13"?

You could always just switch the disks around.

Anyways the reason I ask is I don't have windows 7 as dual boot and I'm thinking of buying a 64gb sd card and using it as a windows 7 dual boot since I don't have space to do that on my tiny 320gb hard drive ( Have like 200gbs of porn). So I though the sd would be a good option.

I'm also thinking of doing a optibay, but I really want a hybrid laptop hard drive to come out to make it easer for me to choose.

lol internet.
Sep 4, 2007
the internet makes you stupid
Just ordered this sleeve for my 11" MBA.

http://www.incipio.com/MacBook-Air-11in-Cases-Accessories/Incipio-MacBook-Air-11in-Slim-Sleeve-Case.asp

Came up to $26~ shipped after taxes to WA state with the discount code of "SUM2012" (Offer Expires 8/20/12)

x-virge
May 25, 2003

DigitalChaos posted:

Does anyone have a recommendation for rapidly swapping the bluetooth-only Magic Trackpad between machines? When I swap laptops on my desk setup everything is incredibly easy with the single thunderbolt cable running to my Thunderbolt Display. The Display acts as a hub for everything. The Trackpad is the one thing that sucks.

Is there software out there to deal with this problem? Is there a bluetooth USB dongle that I can pair the devices with so they stick to the dongle instead of the laptop? I have 2 or 3 dedicated machines and need to swap them out about 4 times per day. I've mostly given up on even using the trackpad because of it.

If the trackpad is paired with both Macs, you can click the Bluetooth menu extra, then choose the trackpad, then "Connect" to switch it. Doesn't work so well if one of the Macs has no other input devices though.

thegasman2000
Feb 12, 2005
Update my TFLC log? BOLLOCKS!
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:backtowork:

Thanks but thats exactly the $100 adapter I am trying to avoid splerging cash on... If its the only way I should probably sell this beast!

Nerdrock
Jan 31, 2006

I can't recall if i'd ever posted complaining about this in the past : but I was wondering if anyone else had a similar experience :


Late 2008 MBP here : I had pulled the DVD drive , put a 500GB drive in its place, and a SSD in the main drive slot by the batter. My SSD has both Lion and BootCamp partitions.

Now here's where it gets weird.

I can't boot to the bootcamp partition if there's no device connected to the DVD/Optibay connector. Normally it didn't really bother me, but now for whatever reason, my machine is no longer recognizing that anything's connected to the DVD/Optibay connector. Neither the original DVD drive nor the HDD "conversion kit" work. So : no boot camp.

Has anyone heard of / experienced this before?

Digital Jesus
Sep 11, 2001

Try a different SATA cable?

Nerdrock
Jan 31, 2006

Digital Jesus posted:

Try a different SATA cable?

Yeah I've got one of these guys on the way just in case, but I was more asking in the case that it didn't work if there was a way to do bootcamp at all or if I'm hosed.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Anandtech has the 2012 Macbook Pro (15") review up:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6037/the-2012-macbook-pro-review/1

Benchmarks but as you can guess the review is short and basically "Same as last year just faster"

Itchy Tony Manero
Mar 29, 2010

Just replaced my late 2007 model MBP with a shiny new 13" Air and I love it already.

I'm going to install Windows 7 using Boot Camp in the near future in order to play whatever games the machine can run and possibly do some work-related stuff that requires Windows-based software. I have the 512GB SSD and I'd appreciate any ideas as to how much space I should reserve for Windows. Does 128GB sound reasonable at all for the Windows 7 partition or should I go higher than that?

Also, can anyone think of a valid reason for me to pay €50 more for Win7 Pro instead of going with Home Premium?

Mu Zeta
Oct 17, 2002

Me crush ass to dust

128 gigs is plenty for Windows, a few programs, and 4-5 games. Keep it min though that some games nowadays are bloated. Max Payne 3 is like 30gigs so you might need to keep less games installed. In the case of Win7 Pro it's one of those things where if you don't already know you need it then you don't need it.

thatdog
Sep 25, 2000

Por favor mantengase alejado de las puertas

GlitterBob posted:

Just replaced my late 2007 model MBP with a shiny new 13" Air and I love it already.

I'm going to install Windows 7 using Boot Camp in the near future in order to play whatever games the machine can run and possibly do some work-related stuff that requires Windows-based software. I have the 512GB SSD and I'd appreciate any ideas as to how much space I should reserve for Windows. Does 128GB sound reasonable at all for the Windows 7 partition or should I go higher than that?

Also, can anyone think of a valid reason for me to pay €50 more for Win7 Pro instead of going with Home Premium?
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/compare

Go with Pro if you need to join a domain at work. Otherwise there is not a lot of difference between them. You can upgrade from Home to Pro or Ultimate with Anytime Upgrade if you find you need the extra features later on.

As for drive space, it depends entirely on the requirements of your software. 30GB is sufficient for a base installation of Windows 7 plus Office 2010. 128GB is actually quite a lot unless you intend to install games and that sort of thing. Edit: I missed where you said you are using it for games. Yes, 128GB is reasonable.

thatdog fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jul 20, 2012

Itchy Tony Manero
Mar 29, 2010

Thanks! The integrated graphics will probably limit my gaming options to Fallout 3/New Vegas, Civ 5 and so on. Newer titles—bloated or not—are pretty much out of the question in the first place and, consequently, not really a concern in my case. 128GB it is.

Most of the work-related requirements I mentioned actually stem from web applications that need browser extensions designed only for IE (I know :rolleyes:) so that's pretty basic stuff. Domain connectivity is a good point, though. I'll have to talk about that with IT tomorrow.

kuskus
Oct 20, 2007

"Fulfillment by Amazon" is my favorite new thing; thank you to whoever gave me the heads-up. If you have Apple stuff to re-sell I think that's the fastest way for the maximum return. The moment my like-new "inventory" gets to them, someone buys it within an hour via Prime.

Man, I'm approaching a HiDPI pickle. I'm now designing both standard and retina mobile stuff, and doing some responsive web design to look sharp in a variety of densities, but I don't have a HiDPI desktop display (unless I set my iMac to 720p HiDPI and roll my chair back 5 feet). I have all the guts to trick out my '09 iMac, but I'm wondering if the AMD Radeon HD 6970M will ever power an external HiDPI Cinema Display when they roll out. Likely not if it's all ThunderBolt? Maybe a 3rd party display via DisplayPort (wouldn't it be a B if you bought a Mac Pro just before the Tbolt update and could never use a retina Cinema Display). The WP entry for DP mentions 3840x2160, so if they have a 21" retina display it could work out. So I'm wondering if I should just return sell these parts and wait around for a retina iMac, using my devices (mainly iPad) as preview in the meantime.

Marco linked an article talking about how web designers are going to have to keep an auxiliary 1x resolution display around for a long time to come, which I found interesting to think about.

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM
Can anyone recommend an external burner for a new macbook air? All.of the ones I see use those Y shaped USB cables which obviously won't work...

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Can anyone recommend an external burner for a new macbook air? All.of the ones I see use those Y shaped USB cables which obviously won't work...
Just get the SuperDrive if you don't want to deal with Y-splitters or AC adapters.

clockworx
Oct 15, 2005
The Internet Whore made me buy this account

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Can anyone recommend an external burner for a new macbook air? All.of the ones I see use those Y shaped USB cables which obviously won't work...

The Y is only there for use if needed - mine has the same cable and works fine off the single plug.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

ilc23 posted:

You could always just switch the disks around.

Anyways the reason I ask is I don't have windows 7 as dual boot and I'm thinking of buying a 64gb sd card and using it as a windows 7 dual boot since I don't have space to do that on my tiny 320gb hard drive ( Have like 200gbs of porn). So I though the sd would be a good option.

I'm also thinking of doing a optibay, but I really want a hybrid laptop hard drive to come out to make it easer for me to choose.

That would be quite the pain in the rear end - I've got an SSD in the stock HDD location and a HDD in the optical bay location. I'm running short on SSD space and I wanted to just move to a 1TB HDD in the optical bay location that I can also run Win7 off.

kuskus
Oct 20, 2007

BlackMK4 posted:

Can you boot Windows off the optibay or is it locked to booting off the HDD on the 2010 13"?

FAQ seems to think so!

Boot Camp 3.0 FAQ posted:

Boot Camp Assistant creates a second partition on your existing startup disk for the Microsoft Windows operating system, or, if you have more than one internal hard drive installed, it will allow you to install Microsoft Windows on another drive.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Used Mac pricing is ridiculous. You can get a refurb C2D 4GB/128GB 11" Air on Apple's website for $789

Or you can buy a used one on eBay for $740

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180924704553#ht_927wt_953

I should have sold mine on eBay.

Manky
Mar 20, 2007


Fun Shoe

chocolateTHUNDER posted:

Can anyone recommend an external burner for a new macbook air? All.of the ones I see use those Y shaped USB cables which obviously won't work...

I use a LiteOn drive that just uses a standard miniUSB cable, no problems so far.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Manky posted:

I use a LiteOn drive that just uses a standard miniUSB cable, no problems so far.

:eng101: Mac laptops have higher-energy USB ports than their PC counterparts

ptier
Jul 2, 2007

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
Pillbug

Bob Morales posted:

Used Mac pricing is ridiculous. You can get a refurb C2D 4GB/128GB 11" Air on Apple's website for $789

Or you can buy a used one on eBay for $740

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180924704553#ht_927wt_953

I should have sold mine on eBay.

You should not. You would be losing money from all the nigeria scams for your laptop. You really can't sell anything like that on ebay anymore.

japtor
Oct 28, 2005
Speaking of selling,

kuskus posted:

"Fulfillment by Amazon" is my favorite new thing; thank you to whoever gave me the heads-up. If you have Apple stuff to re-sell I think that's the fastest way for the maximum return. The moment my like-new "inventory" gets to them, someone buys it within an hour via Prime.
Might've been me, although I thought I posted about it in an iPad thread since that's what I sold. Anyway how much have you sold and have you had any issues with it?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Hey, if you buy an iMac at Best Buy, do they give you the option of the Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad, or is there just a Magic Mouse in the box?

kuskus
Oct 20, 2007

japtor posted:

Anyway how much have you sold and have you had any issues with it?
I've sold maybe 25 items via Marketplace between notebooks, devices and parts, and they always sell immediately (aside from unpopular RAM). About half the time to military / universities. I've only incurred problems twice- just before iPad 3rd gen came out I had people return an iPad 2 _twice_ for no reason and that was such a headache. "A to Z" return policy. Sending my stuff to Amazon and letting them handle any returns is totally worth it. I don't ever plan to offer product support as I'm just unloading my gently-used gear.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003

Bob Morales posted:

Hey, if you buy an iMac at Best Buy, do they give you the option of the Magic Mouse or Magic Trackpad, or is there just a Magic Mouse in the box?
Pretty sure you get the default Magic Mouse in the box.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

ptier posted:

You should not. You would be losing money from all the nigeria scams for your laptop. You really can't sell anything like that on ebay anymore.

There are 610 Macbook Airs in the US listed on eBay right now

chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

clockworx posted:

The Y is only there for use if needed - mine has the same cable and works fine off the single plug.

Huh, this is interesting. I'm going to bring over my portable burner over to her house next time I see her and check to see if it can only run off one plug.

ptier
Jul 2, 2007

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
Pillbug

Bob Morales posted:

There are 610 Macbook Airs in the US listed on eBay right now
try buying one and see how fast it requires escrow or a brother in Nigeria. At least that's how it used to be, the PayPal merging might have squashed that. But I doubt it.

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chocolateTHUNDER
Jul 19, 2008

GIVE ME ALL YOUR FREE AGENTS

ALL OF THEM

ptier posted:

try buying one and see how fast it requires escrow or a brother in Nigeria. At least that's how it used to be, the PayPal merging might have squashed that. But I doubt it.

It squashed it a lot. I've sold 10+ phones and a couple of laptops on ebay in the past 2-3 years and I haven't had a single Nigerian scammer contact me.

I remember I tried to sell my PSP on ebay in like 2007 and all I got were those scammers. I eventually gave up.

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