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Is there a good strategy to use for getting as much intel as possible? I just noticed that I've never gotten the "acquire the vast majority of intel" achievement, and the achievement for not sleeping with anyone (like any good spy, Thorton just can't keep it in his pants). I've made a habit of always buying intel before missions, and trying to be thorough while going through the levels, but apparently I'm missing something.
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Jul 10, 2012 19:13
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Magic posted:3. Not fussed about this in my next playthrough (I'm on PC so there isn't an achievement as such), I may just focus on action rather than exploration and collecting or buying intel. The main reason that I suggested this is that because having certain intel can unlock certain dialog options and additional scenes. For example, you need to have a certain amount of Brayko's dossier in order to question him, which is necessary to unlock the subsequent mission with Surkov. Otherwise you'll miss it completely. Not that there's anything wrong with just shooting your way through the game, but it's something to keep in mind for future playthroughs. DIEGETIC SPACEMAN posted:Is there a good strategy to use for getting as much intel as possible? I just noticed that I've never gotten the "acquire the vast majority of intel" achievement, and the achievement for not sleeping with anyone (like any good spy, Thorton just can't keep it in his pants). I've made a habit of always buying intel before missions, and trying to be thorough while going through the levels, but apparently I'm missing something. Finding intel is pretty straightforward. Mostly, you either find it in the field or buy it from the Clearinghouse. There's a few oddities (you have to respond to a few e-mails in a specific manner, the hidden room in Marburg's mansion), but for the most part you just have to check every nook and cranny in each level. I don't know how much you need for the achievement (I'm on PC) but it shouldn't be too difficult. Keep in mind you can max intel for every faction and every person (except for any two of Parker/Darcy/Westridge) in a single playthrough. If you need help, print this off and keep it handy. There's some spoilers in there, though I tried to keep them to a minimum, but nothing that a person who has played through once or twice should be worried about. EDIT: Grammar Lynx fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jul 10, 2012 |
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Jul 10, 2012 19:23
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I bought this game recently on  and played through first going mostly for the Jason Bourne approach (90% professional dialog choices) and doing Taipei>Moscow>Rome. focusing on stealth/pistols. I'm really loving all the numerous possibilities most missions have in terms of people or events. My second time through is for most of the game totally different from my first. and reading this thread it still seems I am missing out on a lot.the second run I'm currently doing I chose the James Bond style (90% suave dialog choices) but as a recuit. going for shotguns/tech and doing Moscow>Taipei>Rome. But I'm already imagining my third playthrough as a Jack Bauer (90% aggresive dialog) veteran and thinking of going full melee with some SMG action on the side. Nevermind a fourth time doing whatever floats my boat at that time. This game, despite it's faults, is addictive. And deserves more credit for its amazing diversity in options.
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Jul 10, 2012 20:17
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DIEGETIC SPACEMAN posted:Is there a good strategy to use for getting as much intel as possible? I just noticed that I've never gotten the "acquire the vast majority of intel" achievement, and the achievement for not sleeping with anyone (like any good spy, Thorton just can't keep it in his pants). I've made a habit of always buying intel before missions, and trying to be thorough while going through the levels, but apparently I'm missing something. http://alphaprotocol.wikia.com/wiki/Dossier Spoilers of course.
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Jul 10, 2012 20:29
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I'm about to loving scream at this stupid game. I'm on the last mission and I can't get to the room where Parker is. There are a million billion guys in this loving room and they all can see me instantly and kill me as soon as I shoot one. Albatross gives me some line about "taking over the remote guns" but nothing happens! They still turn red and kill me.
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Jul 10, 2012 21:46
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Mr Wind Up Bird posted:I'm about to loving scream at this stupid game. I'm on the last mission and I can't get to the room where Parker is. There are a million billion guys in this loving room and they all can see me instantly and kill me as soon as I shoot one. Albatross gives me some line about "taking over the remote guns" but nothing happens! They still turn red and kill me. Ignore the guards and try and get to the computer in the corner that needs to be hacked and then go into his room. The guards will just keep coming continually unless you do that.
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Jul 10, 2012 21:56
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Qwezz posted:I bought this game recently on Noticing any favorites among those choices or are you just having fun exploring?
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Jul 10, 2012 22:07
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Haha wow these last couple fights are so frustrating and stupid it's making me not even care what the end of the game is! It sure is fun when I can't be in cover for even 10 seconds before I get blown up by a missile! And I can't stealth past the guys at all and they just shrug off a bullet to the head!
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Jul 10, 2012 22:25
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Mr Wind Up Bird posted:Haha wow these last couple fights are so frustrating and stupid it's making me not even care what the end of the game is! It sure is fun when I can't be in cover for even 10 seconds before I get blown up by a missile! And I can't stealth past the guys at all and they just shrug off a bullet to the head! Do you have Chain Shot? There's a reason everyone suggests doing your first playthrough as Pistols/Stealth.
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Jul 10, 2012 22:35
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General Battuta posted:Do you have Chain Shot? There's a reason everyone suggests doing your first playthrough as Pistols/Stealth.
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Jul 10, 2012 22:36
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Mr Wind Up Bird posted:I do! It doesn't matter because I use it to kill three guys and then I get blown up! Or I use it and it's on cooldown and then three MORE guys appear out of nowhere and kill me! What fight in particular are you stuck on now?
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Jul 10, 2012 22:39
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Hank Morgan posted:What fight in particular are you stuck on now?
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Jul 10, 2012 22:41
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If you're in proper cover you're not gonna get exploded, unless your cover is something flammable. Just keep moving forward in between the sound cues.
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Jul 10, 2012 22:47
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Does SMAA not work with this game? I put it on ultra and did the normal ini fixes but it kind of runs like poo poo and there's barely any reduction in jaggies
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Jul 10, 2012 22:50
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Mr Wind Up Bird posted:The helicopter. Okay. Hope this helps you. The missiles have a lock-on period that you should pick up on when ever you hear it beeping. Just move from where you are standing and they won't hit you. The guards are another problem though. There are only a handful of them but at that stage in the game they can be tough. There are two really good spots where you can hide from the chopper and take on the guards safely. At the beginning of that area where the truck is and at the bottom of the steps at the other end of that trench. Just set up a kill zone there to whittle down the guards. Remember if you have the brilliance ability you can use chain-shot and any other ability twice in a row. One the guards are down you can focus on the chopper. Obviously enough just grab the missile launchers scattered around the area. You may not destroy it with all the missiles but your pistol should be good enough to wipe it out. You will be perfectly safe at the base of the tower located at the far end of the area. This is the second last big fight. The next one is your final boss so I'll spoiler it for when you get to it. The boss may be different depending on your choices. Leland. Just run to the left and go up the stairs ignoring the guards when possible and moving when he locks on to you. Follow the catwalk all the way around to the door. Either bypass the door with an emp or pick it and you will win the battle automatically. Westbridge. Take the same strategy except this time you have to fight him once you get into the room. Just use all of your offensive abilities or special powers and he should go down pretty quickly.
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Jul 10, 2012 22:51
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I finally got it after dying a dozen times. The last guy was super easy as I just ran around waiting for chain shot to recharge. I'm not in any super rush to replay it but I'm glad I went though it. Maybe in a few months I'll give it another run and try things a little differently. For this run I went though Rome/Taipei/Moscow and was generally professional and suave so I imagine I pretty much saw the same game as most people do for their first playthough.
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Jul 10, 2012 23:17
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For any boss fight that shoots missiles at you, the best way to do it is to hide behind cover until you hear a series of rapid beeps. Usually being behind cover is best here because the vehicle will also be shooting at you with a machine gun this whole time. Once you hear the beeps, sprint for the nearest missile launcher. The vehicle will fire its missile at wherever you were when the beeping happened, but won't track you, and while it's doing that it will no longer be firing its machine gun. That's the time to shoot it with a missile and hide behind another piece of cover, ride out the machine guns, and wait for the next set of beeps. For the helicopter at the end of the game, the best trick I found to deal with the soldiers you have to fight at the same time is just to go slow and steady. There are enough spots along the path into the main area where the boss can't see you or get a good shot at you that you can fight the soldiers one or two at a time, which is pretty easy and simple. At the same time, those areas have missile launchers and a line of sight on the boss that you can shoot it a few times before you reach the main arena and bring its health down some, just make sure you wait until it's standing still before you shoot because otherwise it will dodge a lot of missiles at long range and you'll get frustrated. Then once you get into the main area most of the soldiers are already dead, and you can use the boss fight tactic I just described to take out the big bad itself.
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Jul 10, 2012 23:43
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I can't imagine how people that had trouble with the helicopter fight would've fared with, say, a boss battle in Mega Man 2.
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Jul 10, 2012 23:48
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evilmiera posted:Noticing any favorites among those choices or are you just having fun exploring? Well the exploring bit is always nice. The dialogs and routes you can take to accomplish your goal really make it a whole different experience. I do have to say I like the James Bond suave approach more than the Jason Bourne professional approach. Pissing off Marburg and being snarky about it is fun. He really doesn't like me now. Plus you get more exposed to Heck instead of keeping a professional distance. Which ups it even more above the Jason Bourne approach. Even if other characters don't like me that much for being a smartass. also, while chainshot is awesome and overpowered. Using a shotgun with phosphorous slugs and roomsweep just feels kickass.
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Jul 11, 2012 09:39
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I don't bother with the missile launchers on the helicopter boss any more, I just peek out from the entrance ramp and dump assault rifle on it until it beeps. It takes a few minutes but it's easy and totally safe.
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Jul 12, 2012 17:52
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How do you find out you were sold out by Mina Tang? Does this change anything in the last mission if you find it out?
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Jul 12, 2012 18:41
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Role Play McMurphy posted:I can't imagine how people that had trouble with the helicopter fight would've fared with, say, a boss battle in Mega Man 2. That battle is pretty rough if you're determined to be non-lethal like I was. If you come to the fight with no appropiate weapons at all it can be a pretty big brick wall in a game otherwise devoid of them. The fight with the sniper Darcy in that level was kind of similar, if for some reason you aren't able to get into the adjacent tower.
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Jul 12, 2012 18:53
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MiltonSlavemasta posted:How do you find out you were sold out by Mina Tang? Does this change anything in the last mission if you find it out? The only way I know of for sure is to join Halbech, and Leland will tell you to kill Mina. During that conversation you'll find out from her that she betrayed you and you have a choice to kill or spare her. I think she also tells you herself before the last mission if you romance her but I'm not certain.
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Jul 12, 2012 20:17
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UnknownMercenary posted:The only way I know of for sure is to join Halbech, and Leland will tell you to kill Mina. During that conversation you'll find out from her that she betrayed you and you have a choice to kill or spare her. I think she also tells you herself before the last mission if you romance her but I'm not certain. I think she also tells you herself before the last mission if you romance her but I'm not certain. Almost right, if I remember correctly: you don't need to actually sleep with her, but you need to be on good enough terms with her that the possibility exists. I also have a vague recollection that if you don't find out there, you have a chance when you find her in the Greybox during the final mission but I might be getting that mixed up with Scarlet.
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Jul 12, 2012 20:29
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Finished Moscow again last night (was my first hub this time; going Moscow/Taipei/Rome instead of the Rome/Moscow/Taipei I did my last run). Last time I let him go, but this time, drat if it wasn't satisfying to nail Surkov in the leg all of ten feet from his helicopter. I'm playing pistols, stealth, and avoiding at least cutscene killing as much as I can this run (I could probably switch to tranqs instead of regular ammo and be doing almost 100% nonlethal but sometimes I just want to shoot a dude in the head, drat it). However, this time, I am making one very notable exception - I am killing the everloving hell out of Marburg, and enjoying it. Last time I didn't kill him until the Graybox.
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Jul 16, 2012 15:37
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Had a lot of fun with this game (three playthroughs, going to start my first Veteran run soon). This thread inspired me to check if there was any cool fanart of the game, for some reason, and so I made the mistake of typing "Alpha Protocol" into a DeviantArt search. After the fifth or so page of nothing-but-Sis, I'm forced to wonder "what the gently caress?" Where is this massive a creepy fanbase for a barely-in-the-game-at-all mute coming from?
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Jul 18, 2012 22:31
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Purple hair, I guess.
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Jul 18, 2012 23:59
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ToxicFrog posted:I think she also tells you herself before the last mission if you romance her but I'm not certain. This is correct but you can gently caress it up if you try to play it too smooth and do the movie cliche of trying to shut her up with a kiss. It's standard movie fare but it's a horrible idea when your job is to extract intelligence from people.
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Jul 19, 2012 03:22
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Purple hair, I guess. She's like one of my Japanese animes.
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Jul 20, 2012 01:26
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Just beat the game. Basically my ending was Steven Heck saving my rear end and then we boated away to gently caress up more poo poo. I realized I forgot to rescue Mina about halfway through that cutscene. Where was she?
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Jul 25, 2012 07:45
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It's really easy to miss. In one room you go in and there are two closed doors, one on either side, and she's through one of those. Problem is, if you aren't watching out for it, you'll probably run straight ahead, and the game locks you out of that area 
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Jul 25, 2012 08:24
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Just think of it as something to do on your next playthrough.
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Jul 25, 2012 12:37
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Psalmanazar posted:Just beat the game. I hope you listened to the newscasts during the credits. quote:Basically my ending was Steven Heck saving my rear end and then we boated away to gently caress up more poo poo. I realized I forgot to rescue Mina about halfway through that cutscene. Where was she? The bit where the bad guy appears on screen to taunt you? There's another door to your left with a screen over it showing Mina that unlocks after he's done taunting. It's really easy to miss and the door in front of you is one-way.
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Jul 25, 2012 13:44
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ToxicFrog posted:The bit where the bad guy appears on screen to taunt you? There's another door to your left with a screen over it showing Mina that unlocks after he's done taunting. It's really easy to miss and the door in front of you is one-way. No, I went through the wrong god drat door. 
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Jul 25, 2012 15:03
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I'm trying to get the badass kick over the side on the Al-Samad Lieutenant, but I can't at the moment. Last time I did it, I killed the closest guard when he came near enough, but now that seems to get his body seen by the Lieutenant who loses his poo poo. Anyone got any tips?
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Jul 25, 2012 22:35
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Psalmanazar posted:Just beat the game. Yeah I've been arguing to have this put in the OP for a while. Role Play McMurphy posted:OK, since we've had like 30 testimonials about people making this mistake and I missed the entire thing on my first playthrough:
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Jul 26, 2012 00:05
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Two Finger posted:I'm trying to get the badass kick over the side on the Al-Samad Lieutenant, but I can't at the moment. Hrm I always run over to the hut on the far side first thing and then tag the nearest guy at the end of his patrol path.
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Jul 26, 2012 00:10
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Role Play McMurphy posted:Yeah I've been arguing to have this put in the OP for a while. Isn't that the bit with Scarlet? There's nothing to your right when you're given the choice to go after Mina - it's just to your left or straight ahead. ...or is there? 
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Jul 26, 2012 03:39
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ToxicFrog posted:Isn't that the bit with Scarlet? There's nothing to your right when you're given the choice to go after Mina - it's just to your left or straight ahead. The door to the right just has some intel. Also, wouldn't it be easier to just describe it as "the room where you have to stop and stare at a TV screen while Leland/Westridge either taunts you or reminds you to kill Mina (if you took Leland's deal)?" That's the one thing about that room that isn't nondescript.
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ToxicFrog posted:Isn't that the bit with Scarlet? There's nothing to your right when you're given the choice to go after Mina - it's just to your left or straight ahead. Yeah, it's left. Going forward continues the mission/Scarlet, left is Mina.
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