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SeaborneClink posted:My understanding was he was asking what happens when you switch from a dumbphone to smartphone. Yup, exactly. My parents are on a dumbphone but waiting for the mythical next iPhone. If they had to jump to a share everything plan I would tell them to just leave verizon. AT&T's $20 300MB plan is pretty ideal for them anyway. They're still on verizon now because the coverage is still best with their dumbphone. Where they are AT&T was mostly OK except for a dead spot right where my dad works, so that killed it for them.
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Ron Jeremy posted:They didn't send me photos, but on my first round on the phone, they found them and said they could email them to me. I only found out about any of this until the bill showed up. The phone itself they say has disappeared into the void of the refurb pool. Stories like this make me really happy that when my iPhone broke last year, I could deal with Apple instead of Verizon. If my second-hand Nexus stopped working now, I'd just be hosed. I think I would have just told them I'm done and walked out if they tried to gently caress with me like this. Did you ship the phone yourself? I probably would have had retail do it or made sure to buy insurance, but this is a pretty lovely situation.
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Jul 17, 2012 06:16
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I'm about to ship my old phone back now, and now you have me paranoid. The phone is perfect, just going in because of a radio issue, and it I'm taking pics of it anyway
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Roundboy posted:I'm about to ship my old phone back now, and now you have me paranoid. Take photos and video of you boxing it up and the condition of the device before it has been taped up. Film the taping. Saved my rear end once or twice.
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Jul 17, 2012 14:23
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MrBond posted:Yup, exactly. My parents are on a dumbphone but waiting for the mythical next iPhone. If they had to jump to a share everything plan I would tell them to just leave verizon. AT&T's $20 300MB plan is pretty ideal for them anyway. You say this now, but my parents surprised me by how quickly they adapted to using their data plan. My mom uses as much data as I do, and she was the most resistant to smartphones in the first place. With this in mind, we saved money on share everything. Four data plans makes it work.
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Can one port a single line out of a 2-line family plan and convert it to an individual account? Primary Line: dumbphone Secondary: Smartphone with grandfathered unlimited plan If I were to switch the secondary line to the primary line, then port out the dumbphone what would happen? Does the plan get converted to an old style non-family individual plan? Does the smartphone line lose unlimited data?
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What can I do to lower my monthly bill? My wife and I both upgraded to smartphones about 7 months ago, because there were no other options for upgrades and our old dumbphones were crapping out. We originally thought it wouldn't be too big of a deal to get data plans, and for about 1 month we actually used them. Now, we are a little upset that our monthly phone bill is $170. I recently lost my job and can't afford that much money just to make phone calls and send some texts. What options are there for us if we are both willing to go back to old dumbphones?
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U.S. Barryl posted:What can I do to lower my monthly bill? My wife and I both upgraded to smartphones about 7 months ago, because there were no other options for upgrades and our old dumbphones were crapping out. We originally thought it wouldn't be too big of a deal to get data plans, and for about 1 month we actually used them. Now, we are a little upset that our monthly phone bill is $170. I recently lost my job and can't afford that much money just to make phone calls and send some texts. What options are there for us if we are both willing to go back to old dumbphones? https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/plan-information/?page=share-everything Scroll to the bottom, 700min and two dumb phones would be $70 except you'd pay per text. Otherwise, unlim min/text but no data is $100.
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eig posted:https://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/plan-information/?page=share-everything Scroll to the bottom, 700min and two dumb phones would be $70 except you'd pay per text. Otherwise, unlim min/text but no data is $100.
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Naffer posted:Can one port a single line out of a 2-line family plan and convert it to an individual account? You can first convert your plan to ALP, Account Level Pricing where there isn't really a primary or secondary and keep unlimited data. Once the port-out disconnect processes you can then convert the remaining line to a 450, 900 or unlimited minute single line and keep unlimited data. The Share Everything plans are an elective transition, never forced for existing customers. The only reason you would 'lose' unlimited data is if you get contract pricing on an upgrade instead of paying full retail.
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Roundboy posted:I'm about to ship my old phone back now, and now you have me paranoid. That's probably a good idea. Make sure to package it well. I've seen the pictures of Ron Jeremy's phone and the corner of it is smashed to hell while the shipping box was in good shape when they photographed it at the returns warehouse. I sent the pictures to him and if he wants to post them in this thread that's up to him.
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Watch Out Smarmy posted:That's probably a good idea. Make sure to package it well. I've seen the pictures of Ron Jeremy's phone and the corner of it is smashed to hell while the shipping box was in good shape when they photographed it at the returns warehouse. I just did this today. I was able to adb back into the phone and delete the superuser.apk (just to be sure) and i packaged it according to their directions. I took pics f every edge of the phone, and screen from angles, as well as the serial on the sim port. and when it was in the packaging. They can try and charge me for a cracked phone. Plus i have a record of visiting a verizon store with the phone as well. Im glad to replace it, even though i could have fixed it probably, as the screen had a green tint on some screens, and i have a bit of a nick on the top side frame. New one is going back into the otterbox
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Today is my 2-year upgrade discount day. There's now a $30 upgrade fee? Ugh. Anyway, time to part with my Droid Pro, which did its best for the past two years despite sucking hard at all things Smart Phone. The Galaxy S III is the current ideal candidate, right?
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Jul 19, 2012 20:03
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You chose a Droid Pro before so a second bad choice wouldn't surprise me.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Today is my 2-year upgrade discount day. There's now a $30 upgrade fee? Ugh.
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Not that anybody here likely cares, but after a month and a half or so of spotty 4G service "unofficially" (wasn't on Verizon's coverage map) showing up around town, Verizon officially flipped the switch on 4G service for real here in my little podunk Eastern NC town of Roanoke Rapids. Strong coverage pretty much all across town. Being that we're a town of only 15-16k people, it surprised me. Sitting in my office -  Not too bad...
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Not too shabby at all. The best I've seen on my Razr Maxx in Gainesville, FL is 44.94 mbps down / 10.51 mbps up. When I flip my mobile hotspot button, its around 16-20 down / 6-8 up.
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Jul 24, 2012 20:17
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Best I've seen on my Gnex in the Minneapolis-St Paul area has been ~18/12. They've started to flicker on the LTE goodness in my current hometown about an hour and a half SW of the Twin Cities, so hopefully I'll see that in the next month or two.
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Jul 24, 2012 22:27
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In west San Antonio, I just got 13 down 14 up. Which is better than my Time Warner cable 10 down and 1.5 up.
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Jul 24, 2012 22:30
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Is it possible to use a smartphone on Verizon's network without a data plan? I know you're required to upgrade to data when purchasing a contract but can you activate an old smartphone with just voice and text?
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Jul 25, 2012 04:51
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I'm not entirely expert at this, but I'm pretty sure smartphones have a feature code that require some sort of data plan.
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tofes posted:Is it possible to use a smartphone on Verizon's network without a data plan? I know you're required to upgrade to data when purchasing a contract but can you activate an old smartphone with just voice and text? It's not possible. When Verizon's network sees your ESN it's going to know exactly which phone you're using and will force on a data plan. You can go for the not-exactly-legal practice of ESN cloning but you won't find out how to do that here.
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Jul 25, 2012 12:33
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Are the old Windows Mobile 6.5 and earlier phones still exempt?
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JayKay posted:Are the old Windows Mobile 6.5 and earlier phones still exempt? I had a friend with an old Motorola Q with no data plan as of about 2 months ago. No idea if you tried to activate one now though or if they're just grandfathered in.
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JayKay posted:Are the old Windows Mobile 6.5 and earlier phones still exempt? Nope.. Haven't been for a while now. If you activated one way back when, you are ok, but switch to something else, and there is no return.
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tofes posted:Is it possible to use a smartphone on Verizon's network without a data plan? I know you're required to upgrade to data when purchasing a contract but can you activate an old smartphone with just voice and text?
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goku chewbacca posted:If you already own a Verizon smartphone that you want to activate without paying for a data plan, you can do so on the no contract MNVO carrier Page-Plus. Anybody done this? I have an Incredible that I don't use anymore, and a GVoice number that I use for a side business. I don't do a whole lot of phone calling, mostly texting via the Voice app and emailing, and the phone basically sits on my desk at home most of the time. Paying $10/100 minutes every 120 days or when I run out seems like a better deal than trying to sort out business calls from personal on my regular phone.
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Keep in mind that texting via the GVoice app needs a data connection. Texts sent through the Android Messaging app will use your carrier phone number, unless your contact texts you. Then, you'll have a unique short code to respond to.
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Switching from a Galaxy Nexus to a 4S will require a trip to a store for activation since the Sims aren't compatible even though they're both Micro Sims, right? And vice versa? Also I shouldn't lose my grandfathered unlimited data going from a 4G phone to 3G, correct?
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JayKay posted:Switching from a Galaxy Nexus to a 4S will require a trip to a store for activation since the Sims aren't compatible even though they're both Micro Sims, right? And vice versa? As long as you're not getting the 4s on subsidy. In a related note, I just went the other way (DROID 3 to Nexus), and had to pick up a Sim card. The woman that helped me commented on how many swaps like that they've been doing.
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JayKay posted:Switching from a Galaxy Nexus to a 4S will require a trip to a store for activation since the Sims aren't compatible even though they're both Micro Sims, right? And vice versa? So you should be able to just activate it on the web and only get a SIM if you're going to go out of the country and pay Verizon out the nose for roaming.
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goku chewbacca posted:Keep in mind that texting via the GVoice app needs a data connection. Texts sent through the Android Messaging app will use your carrier phone number, unless your contact texts you. Then, you'll have a unique short code to respond to. I understand that, don't worry. It'll be on my home wifi, or tethered to my personal phone. My Voice texts go to all my other devices as well, I'd just prefer a second device for voice calls.
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kitten smoothie posted:The SIM in there for international roaming and from searching around it looks like it's not necessary at all for domestic use. Derp, I didnt realize that. When I looked up switching sim cards between the G'Nex and 4S, I saw that it wasn't possible. I didn't realize it was because the 4S sim was only for international. 
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Has anyone been having problems with their 3G being shaky recently? I'm having trouble discerning if it's my phone or Verizon. I've got an iPhone 4 32GB and sometimes I have to enter airplane mode and then exit to get 3G to work. This isn't usually a problem since I'm always on wifi, but when I'm not, it's goddamn annoying. I should probably mention my phone was bought broken (I switched from a very, very broken HTC Trophy which was the 3rd lemon I received) and so I switched out the screen myself. The 3G antenna is definitely connected.
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ProjektorBoy posted:It's not possible. When Verizon's network sees your ESN it's going to know exactly which phone you're using and will force on a data plan. You can go for the not-exactly-legal practice of ESN cloning but you won't find out how to do that here. No, I was just wondering if I could put my mom on a smartphone. She doesn't need data really as wifi would suffice, too bad I guess.
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tofes posted:No, I was just wondering if I could put my mom on a smartphone. She doesn't need data really as wifi would suffice, too bad I guess. Buy her an iPod Touch.
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WeaselWeaz posted:Buy her an iPod Touch. Considered it but I don't think the camera is good enough to replace her point and shoot unfortunately.
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After finally reading about how Share Everything works and poking around on the Plan Calculator, how the gently caress does Big Red get away with this?
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Dickeye posted:After finally reading about how Share Everything works and poking around on the Plan Calculator, how the gently caress does Big Red get away with this? Families with little data usage with a combination of 3+ smartphones, or families with high minute usage typically benefit from it. I see a lot of families with unlimited/2gb of data paying $30 per line and using less than 500MB all the time. Internal communications have initially stated that the individual lines would be going away, but you can still sign up for them as a new customer online and as I discovered today, in store as well. I set a dude up with the 450min/2gb/1000 txt plan today. Most people posting in this forum won't see the value in the Share Everything plans as I'm guessing they're either low minute and texting users(due to google voice) or high data users(due to 4g making watching porn on your phone doable), or both.
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