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MikeJF posted:drat, I could have sworn that Tarquin said something about Elan having to go level for a while before he could be on par with Tarquin, but I guess not. He says something similar here but it's mostly "You need to go through dramatic convention first." I think you're getting that mixed up with Xykon and Roy where Xykon offered Roy a truce while Roy levels up so they can have a proper fight.
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Great to see some clever tactics.
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Jul 26, 2012 17:04
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Yeah, blinding and deafening the enemy party in a hall full of traps is pretty drat clever. Doubly so if Sabine gets booted from this plane, since she's been finding most of the traps.
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Jul 26, 2012 19:15
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The blinding lasts literally one round.
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Jul 26, 2012 20:03
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Mystic Mongol posted:The blinding lasts literally one round. 2d4, actually.
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Jul 26, 2012 20:06
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Yeah I suspect Sabine's banished, Zzt'dri and Nale are kinda nerfed on spells, and all the mummies nearby are destroyed. The kobold dude is probably paralyzed too. Given how powerful Tarquin is though, it might still be an even match.
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Jul 26, 2012 20:30
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ShadowCatboy posted:Given how powerful Tarquin is though, it might still be an even match. Malak is also separated from the rest of the bunch. I don't think it'll hold him for long but if he's forced to take a detour, like V... then it evens the odds even further.
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Jul 26, 2012 21:02
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That assumes Malak doesn't take the scenic route back, in order to give Nale some quality time with Elan and company.
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So his Holy word is... holy? Isn't it usually something a little more... personalized, i guess, to the deity of worship?
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Jul 26, 2012 21:35
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shelper posted:So his Holy word is... holy? Durkon.
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shelper posted:So his Holy word is... holy? Casting every spell in OOTS consists of saying the name of the spell. Even Quickened Expeditious Retreat, which seems a bit too long to say and still be expeditious about retreating.
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Jul 26, 2012 21:56
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bartolimu posted:Casting every spell in OOTS consists of saying the name of the spell. Even Quickened Expeditious Retreat, which seems a bit too long to say and still be expeditious about retreating.
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Jul 26, 2012 22:09
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shelper posted:So his Holy word is... holy? "Beer!"
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ShadowCatboy posted:Yeah I suspect Sabine's banished, Zzt'dri and Nale are kinda nerfed on spells, and all the mummies nearby are destroyed. The kobold dude is probably paralyzed too. Aren't mummies 8HD? So unless Durkon made it to level 18 without us noticing they're still around.
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Jul 26, 2012 22:30
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DoctorTristan posted:Aren't mummies 8HD? So unless Durkon made it to level 18 without us noticing they're still around. They're almost certainly blinded and deafened though
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Jul 26, 2012 22:34
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RickoniX posted:They're almost certainly blinded and deafened though Which, sadly, doesn't really affect their capacity as trap detecting devices.
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thespaceinvader posted:Which, sadly, doesn't really affect their capacity as trap detecting devices. But they can no longer hear verbal commands (and Malack isn't around to give them commands at the moment)
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Jul 26, 2012 23:25
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DoctorTristan posted:Aren't mummies 8HD? So unless Durkon made it to level 18 without us noticing they're still around. He only needs to be 13 (which he must be to cast the spell in the first place) to paralyze them.
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Sefer posted:He only needs to be 13 (which he must be to cast the spell in the first place) to paralyze them. Mummies are undead and can't be paralyzed
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RickoniX posted:Mummies are undead and can't be paralyzed Which is good. Because if they were paralyzed they'd do nothing. Deafened and mobile, however, lets them walk blindly into any number of traps up ahead, and there's nothing Nale can do to stop them.
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jng2058 posted:Which is good. Because if they were paralyzed they'd do nothing. Deafened and mobile, however, lets them walk blindly into any number of traps up ahead, and there's nothing Nale can do to stop them. He wouldn't want to stop them. I'd assume part of the plan here with the Holy is that with their retreat from behind cut off by the door and being deafened and possibly blind, the Linear Guild will stumble haphazardly forward and out of the smoke effect, possibly hitting more traps. Having the mummies at least gives them a thin meat shield to slow down the Order while they shrug off the Holy Word effects as well as setting off any traps they might've otherwise blundered into. Also it's been a while, if Holy Word deafens characters of equal level, does it deafen characters of "equal or higher" level?
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Dolash posted:Also it's been a while, if Holy Word deafens characters of equal level, does it deafen characters of "equal or higher" level? The d20 SRD posted:Creatures whose HD exceed your caster level are unaffected by holy word.
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http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/holyWord.htm Nope. It affects evil outsiders (via banishment) but is otherwise completely ineffective against opponents who have more HD than your caster level.
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I guess that means Tarquin might just be reacting in a "Urgh, what a noise" way but he'll shrug it off and suffer no effects. Anything else will narrow down his level pretty fast. Here's hoping the Order has another move lined up because this doesn't look like it'll be enough.
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Jul 27, 2012 02:21
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It's nice to see reminders that Roy is a fighter with 18 int.
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Dolash posted:Here's hoping the Order has another move lined up because this doesn't look like it'll be enough. Actually, if I'm Roy, I've got Belkar and Elan trying to take out Malack while he's separated from the rest of the Linear Guild, while I'm extracting Durkon. "Thog" is way too tough to take on with even just Zz'ditri and Nale backing him up, so it's better to whittle away at their team by (hopefully) banishing Sabine and taking out Malack now, then getting out when all you've expended is a single spell, a smokestick , and whatever hp and spells it takes Elan and Belkar to take out Malack. On a only vaguely related note, let me say that this really feels like a D&D session where one player couldn't make the game and got turned into the "plot bitch" while he (she?) is away. DM: "Okay, so you've cleared the traps up the stairway, so let's call it for tonight. Everyone going to be here next week?" V: "Well, actually..." DM: "Goddammit, you keep missing sessions! Fine, we'll play without you, but you're definitely going to be the plot bitch!" V: "Aw, man..." NEXT WEEK: DM: "So you're looking at the room full of mummified corpses when suddenly, Vaarsuvius looks nauseous and flees the room." Roy: "I just have a feeling he'll get over it in time. We keep searching the room."
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Dolash posted:I guess that means Tarquin might just be reacting in a "Urgh, what a noise" way but he'll shrug it off and suffer no effects. Anything else will narrow down his level pretty fast. Roy isn't going to rely on this being enough. He said the ambush is an attempt to turn the tables and learn as much about them as they can, so he's already anticipating that this might not be enough.
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A.o.D. posted:It's nice to see reminders that Roy is a fighter with 18 int. So what's his dump stat? Charisma?
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Calaveron posted:So what's his dump stat? Charisma? Based on how he died, I am going to say wisdom.
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Seldom Posts posted:Based on how he died, I am going to say wisdom. Not that. I'm not gonna look for it but back in the Miko arc, she said he had a decent Wisdom score and could have been a Cleric.
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Shugojin posted:Not that. I'm not gonna look for it but back in the Miko arc, she said he had a decent Wisdom score and could have been a Cleric. Besides, an unwise character wouldn't have figured out how to deal with such an incompatible group of nincompoops like the Order of the Stick. EDIT: Maybe Roy's player only rolled 16+ stats? Calaveron fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Jul 27, 2012 |
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It's probably Dexterity, given that he goes around in plate armor and doesn't ever seem to bust out a ranged attack.
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Cabbit posted:It's probably Dexterity, given that he goes around in plate armor and doesn't ever seem to bust out a ranged attack. And never, ever, makes a Reflex save. Yeah, he dumped Dex.
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Jul 27, 2012 18:46
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Although given what we've seen of him, all his other stats rolled ridiculously high.
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Based on what I've seen, Roy has outstanding INT and STR, good WIS, above average CON and CHA, and horrible DEX. I'd put them in exactly that order, too. His high STR may be more a function of magic items than innate, though. Without magic, his WIS could be higher than his STR.
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Somebody did a write-up on the GITP forums (I'm so sorry for linking to the GITP forums) where they figured his DEX and maybe CON were lowish: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4912 Still, he likely has the best stats out of the whole group.
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Surprised we don't really see him having much intellectual conversation with V, or translating V for the dumber members.
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Jul 28, 2012 00:28
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Well Roy is kind of a jerk, and the only one who really needs to understand V is the team leader: himself.
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Jul 28, 2012 00:43
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Actually, in Origin of the PCs, something similar happens.
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