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Tulip posted:What if it doesn't matter that coyote doesn't exist because nothing exists all reality is an illusion This whole time it was ANNIE that was dying the hospital, not her mom! In her coma she dreamed up this whole "gunnerkrigg court" and everyone she knew! 
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Coyote, the god and being that has been interacting with Antimony and other characters, does not exist because he has given all of himself away to others. Coyote is the Forest, so he probably created part of it, giving up various parts of his "form" or "body." He might have also made the moon? Meaning that he can move it around and such. I can't find the quote, but I think somewhere Coyote said that he loses access to a "power" when he gives it to a being, so when he gave Ysengrin power over the trees, he lost power over the trees. Probably stuff along the lines of creating the Bounds Dogs and things. And when he gave Reynardine the ability to take bodies, he lost that as well. The same would go for parts of his body. Give a shadow man a leg, an anwyn an arm, bones for trees, laughter for wind, etc. etc., lose those parts of himself as well. Why the given powers are weaker is still a mystery. Coyote just keeps giving people parts of himself. That's why he was so paranoid about the Forest dwellers finding out he had given ANOTHER bit of himself to a person from the Court. It's not just betrayal, it's also weakening Coyote to the point of powerlessness, and apparently existencelessness. So Coyote only exists as the spirit of Gillitie Forest. There are some holes, but it's probably something along these lines. life_source fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Jul 28, 2012 |
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Welp. I decided I'd finally give this a read since MSPA is on hiatus, and I blew through it in like three days despite not really liking the first few chapters due to Annie looking like a Bratz doll. Great comic. Reynard is adorable, Kat is awesome, everything is rad, the end. Now I get to wait for updates like the rest of the proles.
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Welcome, friend. The line to swap out your avatar forms to the left.
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If humans and their belief really is responsible for Coyote (and, maybe by extension, all "etheric" creatures), then it would dovetail nicely with the Court being an attempt by man to "become God." Maybe it's a way to harness and redirect that power of belief, so that the "magical" part of the world dies out and leaves only man and their new, limitless powers of creation.
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life_source posted:Coyote, the god and being that has been interacting with Antimony and other characters, does not exist because he has given all of himself away to others. this is smart and makes a lot of sense
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Macaluso posted:Jeez Elgamore get OVER it  So does this mean Reynardine doesn't exist, either? I mean, being cousins and all...
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Jul 28, 2012 03:37
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Annie use Slap attack. It was not very effective.  Now I'm really wondering how the next one will look.
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Jul 28, 2012 03:42
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Someone's fishing for a lawsuit.
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Macaluso posted:Jeez Elgamore get OVER it GENUINE CAT HERDER posted:
Parts Kit posted:Someone's fishing for a lawsuit. 
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Going down that road, then? Or alternatively. It'll be interesting to see how Ysengrin, Renard, and Kat (as the divine bird robot lady) play in this whole thing if Coyote doesn't really exist.
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Jul 28, 2012 08:06
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I don't know why any of you are taking ANYTHING Coyote says at face value.
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Jul 28, 2012 13:41
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Geomancing posted:I don't know why any of you are taking ANYTHING Coyote says at face value. http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/archive_page.php?comicID=368
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Jul 28, 2012 13:54
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Why lie, when the truth is so much more fun?
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Jul 28, 2012 16:37
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There's a difference between not lying and being up front and honest.
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Cthulhuchan posted:Why lie, when the truth is so much more fun?
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Jul 28, 2012 17:13
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Where's the animated gif someone made of the last three panels of this page because that was pretty much my reaction to this revelation.
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Jul 28, 2012 18:07
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Read through Gunnerkrigg Court yesterday, good comic good comic. Gonna keep it on the burner along with MSPA and other poo poo like that. I wonder why it took me so long to finally read it, it's very good and entertaining and has words and syllables and I am a very simple man.
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Wow I just marathoned this whole comic over the past few hours and it's just incredible! I don't even know where to begin! The art, the story, the characters... it's just all so good!
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That statement was so vague that I'm going to wait for the next page before I even bother trying to speculate on what it means.
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As some others have said, I believe that this reveal is going to continue with Coyote explaining that his existence is predicated upon human belief. Through their belief and story-telling, humans have given form and power to the Coyote myth. Keep in mind that Coyote says this secret is the reason he loves humans so much. Creating and empowering him are sure reasons for him to be thankful. Some of the other theories here, like the one about him giving aspects of himself away until he doesn't exist, don't really jibe with the secret being the reason why Coyote loves humanity.
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Macaluso posted:Jeez Elgamore get OVER it GENUINE CAT HERDER posted:http://i.imgur.com/TSNNn.png Parts Kit posted:Someone's fishing for a lawsuit. These are the best, you guys are the best 
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Jul 29, 2012 23:52
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"Welp, didn't see that one coming" is exactly what I had to post to the comments when that page went up. I think I may need to grab a version of the 3rd panel as a new avatar. Edit: oh yeah and I don't see why everyone takes that one page with Jones saying Coyote never lies as gold either, seeing as Jone's own true nature is highly obscured and Coyote calling her 'wandering eye' suggests to me she is like some rogue agent of Coyote's own form, given his (non?) abundance of eyes available. The Protagonist fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Jul 30, 2012 |
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And now it's time for Coyote to explain everything. I'm going to go make some popcorn.
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That man's Jimmy Jims
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Jul 30, 2012 08:05
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Well, this is going... somewhere. Time to settle in, I think.
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Hahahah, I love how Annie's reaction is the opposite of everything from the last few pages. "This is stupid, I'm going home."
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Coyote is going to obliterate the 4th wall by telling Annie how the Native American myth of the Coyote and the European myths of Reinardus the Fox and Ysengrimus the Wolf then explain how thousands of years later a webcomic artist used them is his webcomic and how Annie herself is just a character then GC will end.
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Looks like we're going for the "what existence I have is only sustained by people telling stories about me" explanation.
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Jeez, the art on this page is gorgeous. I love the color work on the last two panels (and in this comic in general). Can't wait to see more pages rendered in Coyote story-vision.
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This does seem to be going for a "gods are only real and powerful to the degree that people think they are", but I suspect this is not just quantitative but qualitative. Now-a-days, you'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who genuinely believes in a supernatural coyote trickster spirit. Yet you can certainly find people who are aware of Coyote as... ...a MYTHOLOGICAL FIGURE,  ...or a SYMBOL,  ...or a STORY CHARACTER,  ...or a STORYTELLER,  ...or an ENTERTAINMENT. Notice how, through the comic's entire run, Coyote hasn't really done any of the fantastic things attributed to him, only told stories about them?  It's not that she knows because it's true, but rather that it's true because she knows. If "ideas are bulletproof" like V says, they're also infinitely malleable based on the people who hold them. Antimony may always be the last to know anything, but she's no dummy. She can read between the lines of what Coyote specifically requests to see why he specifically requests it:  And being the semi-ethereal Wunderkind she is,  she's probably already had an inkling of Coyote's nature for a while now. No wonder his song-and-dance routine leaves her so blasé.
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Urban Space Cowboy posted:Notice how, through the comic's entire run, Coyote hasn't really done any of the fantastic things attributed to him, only told stories about them?
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Cat Mattress posted:Well, he did juggle his eyeballs, and there was the thing with the Moon. There's also the whole matter of his tooth, which seems to be incredibly powerful as well.
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Also he threw a guy through a pillar in the court.
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And he gave a fox and a wolf fantastic supernatural powers
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 Boo hoo! Soon I will be in the belly of the Coyote so that it may run and laugh another day!
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RickoniX posted:And he gave a fox and a wolf fantastic supernatural powers Well they were a fantastic supernatural fox and a wolf to begin with.
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I hope it's not the sustained-by-belief route. It was old hat when Black & White came out. I think Tom has something more interesting planned.
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Aren't you paying attention he's sustained by dead dudes
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