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Just finished first runthrough with pistols/stealth/mostly professional. Never would've picked this game up without this thread. Gonna have to replay it at least 2-3 more times. On the last level, I also missed the door with Mina unintentionally. I also had no helicopter fight? I got through the outdoor area with all the missile launchers but the boss battle never happened and I proceeded to the end of the game just fine. The mission debriefing mentioned that I did defeat the helicopter.
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You lucky bastard
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Jul 28, 2012 23:14
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Sometimes the chopper fails to spawn; that's one of the many bugs in this game, but it's not one I complain about much. Still, you can find cover and chainshot it to death with your pistol, so it's not as though the chopper is harder than the other bosses...
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Jul 28, 2012 23:37
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As someone who was playing the game non-lethally (and on Hard, don't play on Hard by the way) I found that chopper to be an absolute bitch. Although I'm pretty sure I didn't even try shooting it with the pistol, guess the joke's on me.
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Jul 29, 2012 07:18
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I seriously don't get what problems people seem to have with that helicopter. I've never died to it.
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Jul 29, 2012 07:21
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Goddamn, I just got Insurance Liability!!! That was not easy to do, and funnily enough I got it on Brayko.
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Jul 29, 2012 07:26
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hectorgrey posted:Sometimes the chopper fails to spawn; that's one of the many bugs in this game, but it's not one I complain about much That seems to happen if you quickload after dying somewhere around the chopper. It doesn't always bring back everyone properly when you quickload - loading through the actual main menu works better. The game lost Brayko one me once like that. Not sure how the game logic worked there - "Hey, there's no boss for the player to fight, eh, roll with it."
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Jul 29, 2012 12:03
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Well, I just got one of the more interesting endings I've had. Turned Marburg, Analysis Flaw'd Parker, no fight between Marburg and Parker (how do you trigger this???), Punched Leland in the face repeatedly, Marburg 'hmmphd' Leland and walked off, Scarlet shot me, Heck shot Scarlet and then dropped some of the funniest lines I've ever heard him say. Something about overlooking murder so you can hook up with her? Gold. Comrade Blyatlov fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Jul 29, 2012 |
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Jul 29, 2012 12:18
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Whoa, spoiler that stuff, Two Finger. Some people will never hear those lines in three or more playthroughs, that's part of AP's charm.
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Jul 29, 2012 12:29
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I played this game when it came out, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. What I've read of this thread, my opinions are pretty standard. Useless combat, awesome story, etc. Anyway, I really wanted to play through it again the other day, and I picked it up on the cheap. Is it worth the trouble of going through it on hard mode? I can't imagine it'd be all that different with chain shot, but the game strikes me as the type that would raise the difficulty by making enemies into bullet sponges or whatever. Sorry if this has been covered time and again. I'm not going to wade through this massive thread to find it.
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Jul 29, 2012 15:24
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Blue Raider posted:I played this game when it came out, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. What I've read of this thread, my opinions are pretty standard. Useless combat, awesome story, etc. Anyway, I really wanted to play through it again the other day, and I picked it up on the cheap. Is it worth the trouble of going through it on hard mode? I can't imagine it'd be all that different with chain shot, but the game strikes me as the type that would raise the difficulty by making enemies into bullet sponges or whatever. Don't play hard mode. It makes the game worse in stupid, annoying ways instead of challenging ones, and doesn't unlock or improve anything really. If you want a challenge, play a recruit and use a weapon other than pistols (SMGs are probably the worst weapons, so maybe try them), or try a gimmick run like unarmed and gadgets instead of guns.
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Jul 29, 2012 15:32
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Yeah, from what I've read hard mode just makes the game more annoying. It makes the hacking mini games near on impossible at points and really just isn't worth doing.
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Jul 29, 2012 15:36
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Yeah, that's kind of what I was expecting. I figured it'd either be what you guys said or that chain shot would just make difficulty irrelevant the way stealth did in the new Deus Ex. Really, I feel like AP could be a straight up adventure game, and it wouldn't suffer for it.
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Jul 29, 2012 15:43
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Hard would be less broken if it didn't render tranquilizing ammo useless (if you can't even tranq someone with a headshot, why bother) and minigames more annoying. The rest of the difficulty's effects can be handled.
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Jul 29, 2012 17:12
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orcane posted:Hard would be less broken if it didn't render tranquilizing ammo useless (if you can't even tranq someone with a headshot, why bother) and minigames more annoying. The rest of the difficulty's effects can be handled. Yeah, my hard playthrough for the achievement I just played a gun toting soldier Thorton who kicked down doors, shot people in faces, and paid no heed to alarms. That is pretty much the only way a hard playthrough could be anything besides an exercise in frustration, though.
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Jul 29, 2012 17:21
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Does maxing out technician or sabotage enable anything special like how pumping martial arts lets you kick down doors? I heard rumors that in the end of Taipei it lets you grab both bits of data, but that sounds like it would affect the story too much to be real.
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Jul 29, 2012 20:08
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Maarak posted:Does maxing out technician or sabotage enable anything special like how pumping martial arts lets you kick down doors? I heard rumors that in the end of Taipei it lets you grab both bits of data, but that sounds like it would affect the story too much to be real. Taipei: you can get Thorton to decrypt the files instead of Mina, but the results are the same. Moscow: I think if Thorton is technically apt he can get into both wings of the mansion instead of choosing between data and handler.
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Jul 29, 2012 21:50
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Tempo 119 posted:Moscow: I think if Thorton is technically apt he can get into both wings of the mansion instead of choosing between data and handler. I know you can do this as a Veteran, don't know if skill levels have anything to do with it.
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Jul 29, 2012 22:12
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vyelkin posted:I know you can do this as a Veteran, don't know if skill levels have anything to do with it. I am pretty sure it is triggered also by choosing the Technical specialization at the beginning of the game (whatever it is really called)
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Jul 29, 2012 22:22
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Aside from veteran, high enough "technical aptitude" skill (is that the name?) also allows to do both wings indeed. Not sure about the specialization, never heard of those (instead of the skills they consist of, that is) affecting anything. Then again it's Alpha Protocol so they probably do anyway.
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Jul 29, 2012 22:41
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Specifically, you have to have 8 levels in Tech Aptitude (where you unlock Brilliance). You specialization doesn't factor in. At least for the Moscow one, I'm not sure what triggers the Taipei thing.
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Jul 29, 2012 22:58
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I tried to get the 'without killing in cold blood' achievement but failed. Does that mean zero kills AT ALL? I thought it was just cutscene ones...
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Jul 30, 2012 10:35
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Two Finger posted:I tried to get the 'without killing in cold blood' achievement but failed. Does that mean zero kills AT ALL? I thought it was just cutscene ones... It's just cut-scene kills against main characters but as far as I know you actually have to have to trigger the spare/execute scene for each possible target. Is it possible you you missed the Surhov scene? I'm not sure how Marburg factors in considering you could have possibly taunted him in Rome or killed him again in the endgame.
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Jul 30, 2012 10:57
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Smol posted:I seriously don't get what problems people seem to have with that helicopter. I've never died to it. It's easy to get distracted by the other enemies in the area, not hear the beep as it locks on, and boom you're dead. That's not really the problem, though; as long as you stay alert the missiles are easy to avoid. The problem is that when you're fighting the guards, it's nothing but an irritating distraction, and when you're done with them, it's a tedious speedbump. You killed all the guards? Ok, now run around searching for all of the rocket launchers, and when you're done with that spend five minutes shooting at the helicopter until it finally dies, and now you can go back to the actual game!
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Jul 30, 2012 16:30
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If you need to spend five minutes shooting at it afterwards you must either be missing with most of your missiles or missing a lot of the launchers, because there are more than enough around that area to take it out with missiles and still have some left over. Unless you're playing on Hard or something, and why would you even do that?
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Jul 30, 2012 23:06
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vyelkin posted:If you need to spend five minutes shooting at it afterwards you must either be missing with most of your missiles or missing a lot of the launchers, because there are more than enough around that area to take it out with missiles and still have some left over. Unless you're playing on Hard or something, and why would you even do that? As far as I know, there are only seven launchers. I've played the game three times, on Normal or Easy each time, and I have never had it go down to just the launchers even hitting it dead on with each one (and watching to confirm the hit). 5 minutes is a bit of hyperbole but that thing still takes a shockingly large number of pistol or rifle bullets to shoot down even after taking direct hits from seven missiles.
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Jul 30, 2012 23:42
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ToxicFrog posted:As far as I know, there are only seven launchers. I've played the game three times, on Normal or Easy each time, and I have never had it go down to just the launchers even hitting it dead on with each one (and watching to confirm the hit). I've also played through three times, all on Normal, and two times I killed it with only missiles, even missing once or twice. The third time I finished it off with some pistol bullets but that was just because I was in a spot where it couldn't hit me and I didn't want to go leave and get another launcher (there were more left). The way I know there were always more left is because I always grab a launcher and use it to kill the next enemy along that path because that's tons of fun. I don't know whether there are seven or more than seven, but I guarantee you it is possible to finish that fight without even using all the launchers.
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Didn't someone mention there's locational damage on the chopper's model? Or am I thinking of another game. Also how many people have seen the chopper at Marburg's villa? The one time I died to the last chopper I stupidly hid behind the exploding truck in the center.
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Jul 31, 2012 00:41
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vyelkin posted:Unless you're playing on Hard or something, and why would you even do that? 
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Jul 31, 2012 01:12
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ToxicFrog posted:As far as I know, there are only seven launchers. I've played the game three times, on Normal or Easy each time, and I have never had it go down to just the launchers even hitting it dead on with each one (and watching to confirm the hit). Bulletstorm.
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Jul 31, 2012 04:05
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Scorchy posted:Also how many people have seen the chopper at Marburg's villa? I saw it... then shot it down. 
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Jul 31, 2012 14:08
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Whooo, this game is really really good I played my way through as a sort-of conscientious idealist agent. Until they killed my mates, then I just killed everyone, gently caress that noise. I walked the wrong way when I was going to save Mina, realised it just after it checkpointed and swore loudly. That was irritating
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Aug 1, 2012 17:05
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Rome mission spoilers: I must have played this game at least 6 times and have done different takes of the gelato shop mission. This time I bluffed my way into the server room and "upgraded the servers to avoid a horse porn virus" - which I've done in the past and walked away successfully. However this time, perhaps due to me going back and forth between suave and professional, coming out of the server room the guy pulled a gun on me and I shot him  tldr: this loving game!
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Aug 2, 2012 19:14
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Hulk Smash! posted:Rome mission spoilers: My favorite part of that scene is Thorton avoids suspicion by claiming he is talking to his handler.
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Aug 3, 2012 16:22
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Hulk Smash! posted:Rome mission spoilers: Oh man I so hoped this was to do with Marburg. Pulling that off without knowing it's a possibility is an amazing feeling.
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Aug 3, 2012 16:25
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I later also (other Rome mission spoiler)Shot everyone at the mansion mission to identify the dude. Mina was freaking out but whatever. Shooting the TV is also fun in that mission. "I hate that show"  I hadn't played in over a year and, after re-watching Casino Royale, felt the need for some spy action and throat punching. So far this version of Mike is borderline psycho.
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Aug 3, 2012 16:35
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Scorchy posted:Also how many people have seen the chopper at Marburg's villa? What exactly triggers this? It's something I'd like to see whenever I get around to doing another playthrough.
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Aug 3, 2012 17:10
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Hulk Smash! posted:Rome mission spoilers: First time I played this game as a good guy, I honestly thought that gelato guy wasn't supposed to be there and replayed the mission to murder him because it would end up being the smart thing to do in the long run. I ended up being wrong, of course. Or was I?
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Aug 3, 2012 21:16
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EVERYTHING is the smart thing to do in the long run.
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This game is $3.99 on Gamers Gate right now! I might grab some for gifting, let me know if you really, really need a copy!
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