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Phyresis you are destroying my soul. If people keep up this exploitive ork ally poo poo they're gonna nerf orks even more  (those are my awesome troops choices, you can't have them! I paid for them by giving up all my decent anti-tank weapons forever)
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Eh, I expect the next round of FAQs (due soon) will fix dumb crap like this. They forgot to update quite a few army-wide bonuses and such. I guess they really rushed those FAQs.
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Jul 31, 2012 19:48
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Yeah, I guess I should just be happy the FAQs exist at all.
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Jul 31, 2012 19:54
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Phyresis posted:Non-vehicle units only. I wonder if Grey Knights could benefit from some invulnerable saves on their Purifiers and Strike Squads. I'm sure CSM will be able to find something to put cybork on! It'd look pretty swell on Wraithguard, that's for sure. T6, 3+/5++ yes please.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:00
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Phyresis posted:Eh, I expect the next round of FAQs (due soon) will fix dumb crap like this. They forgot to update quite a few army-wide bonuses and such. I guess they really rushed those FAQs. I'm worried they won't leave Logan Grimnar's axe untouched like they did in the first round.  I mean, he's still a beast in combat otherwise but that flexibility is tremendous.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:06
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I would expect that old-style Runic weapon psyker-denial will be nerfed eventually as well. Compared to standard psychic hoods it's just too powerful, but we'll see.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:09
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Fine with me as long as they continue to forget about Runes of Warding. Go team GW! Ignore the eldar!
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Jul 31, 2012 20:15
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RoW probably get away with it because this Eldar book is only gonna last until February. GW don't give a poo poo if the game is unbalanced for 6 months because of it.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:19
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Corrode posted:RoW probably get away with it because this Eldar book is only gonna last until February. GW don't give a poo poo if the game is unbalanced for 6 months because of it. I find your claim of February unlikely, though I am curious what rumor you're going off of.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:25
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bhsman posted:I'm worried they won't leave Logan Grimnar's axe untouched like they did in the first round. GW won't change the Axe Morkai. It's an Unusual Power Weapon, so you just follow the special rules of the weapon. There's no reason for them to do anything to it. I was worried for a little while as well when I saw the FAQs but then I realized that Logan would be fine. He's no Lysander, but he still beats face like a champ. theironjef posted:I find your claim of February unlikely, though I am curious what rumor you're going off of. Current rumors have it as CSM, DA, Eldar, and then Tau. With the new accelerated release schedule, February is the likely month of the release. I could see it pushed back to March or April, though, because it sounds like they are falling a bit behind. e: btw I agree with you guys that said Leman Russ Demolishers have a use. Artillery tends to get blown up real early in the game.  I'm gonna pick up a Demolisher soon.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:25
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Phyresis posted:Non-vehicle units only. I wonder if Grey Knights could benefit from some invulnerable saves on their Purifiers and Strike Squads. I'm sure CSM will be able to find something to put cybork on! If only BA could ally with them. Sanguinary Guard with Invulnerable saves.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:37
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Phyresis posted:GW won't change the Axe Morkai. It's an Unusual Power Weapon, so you just follow the special rules of the weapon. There's no reason for them to do anything to it. I was worried for a little while as well when I saw the FAQs but then I realized that Logan would be fine. He's no Lysander, but he still beats face like a champ.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:39
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Fitret posted:Thoughts on this 1500 Dark Eldar list? I've yet to be sold on the baron+beasts combo, but that's mainly because I haven't tried it for myself yet. I think you should drop those dark lances on the warrior squads for some splinter cannons or blasters (or both). You're not taking flickerfields, so you need to move to get those jink saves, and that means those dark lances will be snap firing the entire game. As someone else mentioned, your hekatrix really needs an agoniser, and her sisters could use some shardnets or hydra gauntlets. Five scourges are just gonna die to the first thing that looks at them. Your jets could really use some flickerfields, and that voidraven is lopsided without the 4th missile. What I'd do is drop one of the warrior squads or the wych squad and use the remaining points to bulk up the scourge squad to 10 models and pass around some upgrades. Chance II posted:Also, since I'm here, how bad an idea would it be to have an almost entirely Corsair jetpack infantry army? As cool as those guys look, it'd be a terrible idea. They're very expensive for T3 5+ troops and their lasblasters aren't very good at killing things. PeterWeller fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jul 31, 2012 |
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Jul 31, 2012 20:39
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theironjef posted:I find your claim of February unlikely, though I am curious what rumor you're going off of. I have an ITK and February is the first test of whether he's accurate or not.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:40
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Shosuro posted:I may be misremembering; can't he use it as either a Power Fist or a Frost Axe? Which now doesn't make sense, since they both strike last and choosing Axe just loses you a couple points of Strength? frost blade
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Jul 31, 2012 20:41
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Shosuro posted:I may be misremembering; can't he use it as either a Power Fist or a Frost Axe? Which now doesn't make sense, since they both strike last and choosing Axe just loses you a couple points of Strength? Power fist or frost BLADE. People are worried they'll change it to frost axe because, well, it's an axe, but that would make it super dumb since you'd be choosing between I1S6 and I1S8 with no other differences.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:54
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Phyresis posted:If you're buying Forgeworld from some ebay seller in Russia or China it's all obviously counterfeit... This dude was in Mobile or something, so I'd like to imagine a couple rednecks casting tiny mans between batches of meth or something
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Jul 31, 2012 20:54
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nuncle jimbo posted:This dude was in Mobile or something, so I'm imagining a couple rednecks casting tiny mans between batches of meth or something Yeah, someone probably got burned and decided to share the love. This counterfeiting poo poo is a scourge.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:56
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nuncle jimbo posted:This dude was in Mobile or something, so I'd like to imagine a couple rednecks casting tiny mans between batches of meth or something Breaking Bad Moonz.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:59
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Phyresis posted:Yeah, someone probably got burned and decided to share the love. This counterfeiting poo poo is a scourge. I would actually like to see some numbers on how much counterfeiting affects GW and FW's bottom line. Sometimes the stuff confuses me, like how there's always tons of FW dreadnoughts on ebay but no arms. I wonder how many people who would not otherwise have bought one at all get one for cheap on ebay and wind up buying the arms from FW anyway.
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Jul 31, 2012 20:59
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Anyone have any experience with Kromlech models? Considering using either of these two items to make Heavy Artillery for DKoK, http://www.ebay.com/itm/150519921890?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648 http://www.ebay.com/itm/150773480666?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 The 38 would make a pretty good medusa, the 10.5 though seems a little small for a basilisk. If anyone has any opinions or pictures of these next to 40k models that would be awesome!
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Jul 31, 2012 21:00
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Dominion posted:I would actually like to see some numbers on how much counterfeiting affects GW and FW's bottom line. Sometimes the stuff confuses me, like how there's always tons of FW dreadnoughts on ebay but no arms. I wonder how many people who would not otherwise have bought one at all get one for cheap on ebay and wind up buying the arms from FW anyway. It's probably a negligible amount right now, but they're just getting started. They seem to have a weird selection of models available, which don't necessarily correlate to the most popular Forgeworld models. It's really wack. The real problem is that GW has no way to shut them down. They are all based in Russia or China. They could end up cannibalizing a lot of the hobby.
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Jul 31, 2012 21:03
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PierreTheMime posted:Breaking Bad Moonz. Yeah bitch! (Rare Earth) magnets!
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Jul 31, 2012 21:05
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Phyresis posted:It's probably a negligible amount right now, but they're just getting started. They seem to have a weird selection of models available, which don't necessarily correlate to the most popular Forgeworld models. It's really wack. The real problem is that GW has no way to shut them down. They are all based in Russia or China. They could end up cannibalizing a lot of the hobby. Nah, I think it'll be a wash, just like MP3s didn't kill the music industry and pirated ebooks hasn't killed kindle sales or even real books. On the one hand you do lose sales to counterfeiters, on the other you widen the base of people who suddenly can afford to be in the hobby, and they aren't buying counterfeit EVERYTHING. They buy that FW dreadnought or whatever and then still buy GW stuff anyway. Whether or not its morally acceptable to do or to support, I don't think it will have an appreciable affect on the hobby as a whole either way.
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Jul 31, 2012 21:10
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^^ AgreePhyresis posted:They could end up cannibalizing a lot of the hobby. Can really only blame GW for this. If they haven't raised the prices on their "niche" market so high people wouldn't look for cheaper version of the very same product. Counterfeit or not. Remember when 20 guardsmen cost $25? I do.
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Jul 31, 2012 21:11
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pw pw pw posted:Phyresis you are destroying my soul. If they do anything it will be a universal rule that applies to the BRB. Something to the effect of "character or wargear effects and abilities cannot affect enemy units unless the entry explicitely states so." That was pretty much what they had in the 5th edition FAQ and I suspect we'll see the same thing for 6th. I would expect them to also address the "unit of characters" BS that you see with Paladins and Nobz.
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Jul 31, 2012 21:11
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Dominion posted:Nah, I think it'll be a wash, just like MP3s didn't kill the music industry You're right that MP3s didn't kill the music industry, but they absolutely kicked the poo poo out of the recording industry.
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Jul 31, 2012 21:16
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PeterWeller posted:You're right that MP3s didn't kill the music industry, but they absolutely kicked the poo poo out of the record industry. Its the same industry. Changing the dominant format happens. PIRACY didn't kill the record industry though, records and CDs would have faded in favor of digital even if there was no piracy and it was all legal paid downloads.
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Jul 31, 2012 21:18
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With all this talk of Grotznik, I was reminded that he has rage. I grew excited at the thought of the squad of 6atk Meganobs rampaging across the field of battle with 2+/5++. Then I read my codex, he doesn't have rage. Sic transit somnia.
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Jul 31, 2012 21:21
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Is it worth outflanking my tervigon on some of these new objective missions? I can make it happen with the tyrant's hive commander ability but will the tervigon have the survivability to make it to the next turn and start popping out termagants in this edition? If he's likely to get taken out by focus fire I'd rather not waste the points on HC. Also, where in the rulebook does it mention which psyker schools are open to tyranids? I know biomancy is one but I couldn't find anything that specified each race's fields
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BadLlama posted:Can really only blame GW for this. If they haven't raised the prices on their "niche" market so high people wouldn't look for cheaper version of the very same product. Counterfeit or not. Remember when 20 guardsmen cost $25? I do. I do too, and that's why I have over a hundred Cadians even though I never make a list that can field them all. I'd be bored, get a desire to build something (as that's my favourite part of this hobby) and mosey down to GW and pick up 20 guardsmen for a few bucks. As for the piracy thing, maybe if it gets popular enough, it'll give GW some real competition, so they can't do whatever they feel like with prices. Realistically I doubt that, but hey, I can dream.
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Jul 31, 2012 21:23
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I was out of the game briefly, and in that time, I missed the Necron codex release and their impact on the metagame. How good are they? Is the codex powerful enough to have them compete with the other powerhouse recent books?
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mmj posted:Is it worth outflanking my tervigon on some of these new objective missions? I can make it happen with the tyrant's hive commander ability but will the tervigon have the survivability to make it to the next turn and start popping out termagants in this edition? If he's likely to get taken out by focus fire I'd rather not waste the points on HC. Also, where in the rulebook does it mention which psyker schools are open to tyranids? I know biomancy is one but I couldn't find anything that specified each race's fields They have access to Biomancy, Telekinesis, and Telepathy. I don't actually have the book in front of me, but with rare exception what you need to know is that they have access to Biomancy (and is pretty much all you should roll for). A Tervigon with either Iron Arm or Endurance (or both!  ) should be survivable enough for an Outflank maneuver, but it depends on your strategy because not having it on the table for 1+ turns can have a significant impact of its own.WhiteWolf123 posted:I was out of the game briefly, and in that time, I missed the Necron codex release and their impact on the metagame. How good are they? Is the codex powerful enough to have them compete with the other powerhouse recent books? Necrons are fun, flavorful, and competitive. The Necron codex (aside from some of the fluff text) is likely the best-written rulebook to come along in a long time. Unlike some other armies there are numerous solid lists and you can easily change things up to make them interesting without sacrificing on your army's potential. They're really just great. I don't have a better description. PierreTheMime fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Jul 31, 2012 |
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WhiteWolf123 posted:I was out of the game briefly, and in that time, I missed the Necron codex release and their impact on the metagame. How good are they? Is the codex powerful enough to have them compete with the other powerhouse recent books? It's probably the best written book yet. Very balanced. Few bad units but nothing really overpowered.
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WhiteWolf123 posted:I was out of the game briefly, and in that time, I missed the Necron codex release and their impact on the metagame. How good are they? Is the codex powerful enough to have them compete with the other powerhouse recent books? Necrons are one of if not the strongest books in the game right now. They're perfectly built for 6th ed and they do everything well. Some duff units but anything on the Barge chassis, both fliers, both Troop choices, Wraiths and Overlords are all excellent. Scarabs and Triarch Stalkers are also decent in a unit built around them and the Royal Court offers tons of great options all over the park that synergise really well with the rest of the list. If I actually liked the models or fluff in any way and my buddy wasn't playing them exclusively I'd be running them as my first choice for tournament armies at the moment.
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Hell yes. Ordered from GC Minis, arrived in less than 3 weeks. HIGHLY recommended if you live in Canada. My god I am going to be busy for the next two months.
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Phyresis posted:2000 points - IG + SM Well, your first problem is that I don't actually see any HWSs on this list. I'm also not sure what the Vets with the Meltas are supposed to do, since they don't have any way of getting around. Finally, I'm not sure the Skyshield idea will work as well as you hope it will. Sure, the 4+ Invuln is great, but a single Basilisk shell could potentially destroy a good chunk of your army in a single shot. Still, it's an interesting list, and I'm looking forward to hearing how well it does.
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Dominion posted:Its the same industry. Changing the dominant format happens. PIRACY didn't kill the record industry though, records and CDs would have faded in favor of digital even if there was no piracy and it was all legal paid downloads. It's my bad for not making it more clear that I wasn't talking about the effects of piracy, but going digital is not just another format change. The recording industry is not the same thing as the music industry. The term specifically refers to the major record companies. Digital destroyed the business model they relied on for fifty years. You don't need them to produce and distribute music anymore now that you can produce a record in your dorm room and distribute it for free over the net. They were the middle-man between the artist and the public, and MP3s cut them out. E: This is a dumb tangent. I don't think ebay pirates are going to hurt GW that much; I just was compelled to talk about how MP3s killed Geffen.
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Corrode posted:If I actually liked the models or fluff in any way and my buddy wasn't playing them exclusively I'd be running them as my first choice for tournament armies at the moment. This is my problem with Necrons, I just can't like them for some reason.
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Lungboy posted:This is my problem with Necrons, I just can't like them for some reason. They're just boring as gently caress. I love everything else and I eventually want to have a workable army for every faction, but Necrons just don't appeal to me in any way really.
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