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Windows comes with the handy SnippingTool.exe that hangs out in your system32 directory. It's aces.
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This is apparently a thing now on facebook. I love having to explain the concept of marginal taxation to idiots over and over again
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Aug 1, 2012 22:38
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This wasn't an e-mail or Facebook share, just something I overheard at work. A cranky old guy was griping to someone else about "those drat Democrats" taxing athletes who medal at the Olympics. This immediately set off my BS detector, so I checked Google and every result is about Marco Rubio (who said it was brought to his attention by Grover Norquist  ) talking about what a travesty it is, how it's "punishing success", and so on. I'm guessing this policy existed in years past, but it's only being seen as an issue now because of the scary black man in the White House. Would that be an accurate assessment?edit: I'm guessing the guy saw that graphic ^^^^^^^
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Aug 1, 2012 22:42
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They win money from the US Olympic group for getting the gold (20k or something?), they have to pay taxes on it like literally everything else in the world. I'm really baffled how that's a bad thing.
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Aug 1, 2012 22:49
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Glitterbomber posted:They win money from the US Olympic group for getting the gold (20k or something?), they have to pay taxes on it like literally everything else in the world. I'm really baffled how that's a bad thing. Taxes bad, unregulated businesses good
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Aug 1, 2012 22:49
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Glitterbomber posted:They win money from the US Olympic group for getting the gold (20k or something?), they have to pay taxes on it like literally everything else in the world. I'm really baffled how that's a bad thing. Also those numbers completely misleading. Just like any income, there is a progressive marginal taxation on each bracket. Those dollar amounts are only valid if the athlete in question is already making enough income to be in the top tax bracket or $372,951. This is basically just designed to make stupid people who don't understand taxes angry.
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Aug 1, 2012 22:51
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We're punishing successss!!!!
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Aug 1, 2012 22:51
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Nth Doctor posted:In lighter news, I saw this picture on Tumblr today and it reaffirmed my faith in humanity: That's great, the admin on that page deleted the post and now about 1/3 of the posts are links to a screen cap of it.
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Aug 1, 2012 23:07
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Glitterbomber posted:They win money from the US Olympic group for getting the gold (20k or something?), they have to pay taxes on it like literally everything else in the world. I'm really baffled how that's a bad thing. Armacham posted:Also those numbers completely misleading. Just like any income, there is a progressive marginal taxation on each bracket. Those dollar amounts are only valid if the athlete in question is already making enough income to be in the top tax bracket or $372,951. This is basically just designed to make stupid people who don't understand taxes angry. So in other words, a 16 year old with no job (because they train full time to be in the Olympics) that wins $20,000 will have pretty much no tax liability whatsoever? (It looks like about $1150 based on 2011 tax rates.)
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Aug 1, 2012 23:44
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CellBlock posted:So in other words, a 16 year old with no job (because they train full time to be in the Olympics) that wins $20,000 will have pretty much no tax liability whatsoever? (It looks like about $1150 based on 2011 tax rates.) If I understand right, yes. I think there's some inherent 'we take x amount' for stuff that's prize money type earnings, but yea the dudes who are kids with no job but their sport are pretty cool when it comes to tax burden.
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Aug 1, 2012 23:58
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 I am trying to explain to someone that a lot of US debit is held by Americans through things like treasury bonds and what-not. Can someone wrap it up better than me so I can tell this idiot we don't owe China all our debt?
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Aug 2, 2012 01:02
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/aug/01/ten-reasons-obama-six-video Hey if Romney and his people can't convince you to not vote for Obama... Seriously, what the gently caress is wrong with parents like this?
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Aug 2, 2012 02:38
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Cory Snyder posted:Someone who was a friend of mine on Facebook posted a reply on someone else's wall post that was just "Racial Slurs, Go." I can't see it anymore because I unfriended that guy and reported the post. Here's the profile, I'm not sure if I can just link it like this... Oh my, I have a mutual friend with this guy.
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Aug 2, 2012 03:03
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ultimateforce posted:
I'll see if I can dig up my old posts about this in the thread, but basically, your friend probably believes that we owe China all our debt for exactly the same reason that old guy mentioned a few posts earlier believes the U.S. government is taxing Olympic medalists' prize money at 35%: the news lied to him. The reason people believe this "China owns all our debt" lie is because the media repeats it ad nauseum. They phrase it as "largest foreign owner of our debt" or "largest single creditor to the U.S." without ever mentioning the actual number. The actual number is an un-alarming 7.5%. But that doesn't make people angry or scared, so the news doesn't report it. Maybe you can send him that as a preliminary.
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Aug 2, 2012 04:03
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Do you have a book that explains how to read and interpret charts that you could lend him?
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Aug 2, 2012 04:33
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Boondock Saint posted:http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/aug/01/ten-reasons-obama-six-video I had a coworker who brought his kid in one day and while I knew that the father was a fox news conservative it wasn't till the kid started regurgitating the most insane theories that I realized how far gone the guy actually was.
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Aug 2, 2012 04:35
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The number one creditor to the US Federal Government is the US Federal Government. The government owes itself nearly 4-5 times as much as it owes to China. Hell, just from that graph you posted... 68.2% of the Federal Government's Debt is owned by Americans. As for the Olympics-Taxes thing, most Olympians in the US are poor, even the ones who are adults. Only a few like Michael Phelps make big money thanks to endorsement deals. http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/10/news/economy/olympic-athletes-financial/index.htm
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Aug 2, 2012 04:35
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Arglebargle III posted:A few bullet points in no particular order: Is this the one you were looking for?
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Glitterbomber posted:They win money from the US Olympic group for getting the gold (20k or something?), they have to pay taxes on it like literally everything else in the world. I'm really baffled how that's a bad thing. People are stupid. A lot of them do not realize that when you "win" something it counts as income, even though this is pretty straightforward. For monetary prizes that doesn't tend to cause problems, but when you win *stuff* it can be quite a pain in the rear end, especially when people aren't ready/aware of it. Win a Ferrari in a raffle? Sounds awesome until you realize you have $30k or so in extra taxes to pay this year - gonna have to sell it. Understandably it sounds unfair, but poo poo, you just got $200,000 worth of stuff...
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Choadmaster posted:Win a Ferrari in a raffle? Sounds awesome until you realize you have $30k or so in extra taxes to pay this year - gonna have to sell it. Didn't that happen when Oprah gave away cars before?
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Aug 2, 2012 05:08
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myron cope posted:Didn't that happen when Oprah gave away cars before? There was some guy that won a $380,000 Lambo and crashed the same day he got it. source: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9ROVPCG1.htm
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Aug 2, 2012 05:26
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Arglebargle III posted:Is this the one you were looking for? Thank you, I was trying to hit those points but was it coming out very wordy and rambly.
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Aug 2, 2012 10:27
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Jesus tapdancing Christ. I posted something the other day regarding the new parts of the Affordable Care act that just came into effect yesterday, mostly so my female friends are aware that, you know, "free" birth control! Then this supreme deuche posts this right under it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5FNDRgPOLs Link to a lovely video And also this nifty quote: "The difference between you and a common thief is that the thief has the honesty to commit the crime himself, while you whine to the government to do your stealing for you." I wanna burn this shitheel so badly. I made it through about one minute of that video and I just... it's so drat self-righteous and lovely, I'm having a hard time putting it into words. Coelacanthian fucked around with this message at 13:43 on Aug 2, 2012 |
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Aug 2, 2012 13:37
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No one is getting free birth control. No one is trying to get free birth control. They are asking that their plans which they are paying into cover birth control.
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Aug 2, 2012 13:40
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Coelacanthian posted:Jesus tapdancing Christ. I posted something the other day regarding the new parts of the Affordable Care act that just came into effect yesterday, mostly so my female friends are aware that, you know, "free" birth control! Then this supreme deuche posts this right under it. Oh god at that video description and its tags. Trying to court the anarchist movement by talking about state oppression and all that malarkey. Hopefully most anarchists will see right through it. (By the way, if anyone ever calls themselves a "voluntarist", they're libertarians co-opting anarchist language. Which would be fine if libertarians weren't uniformly shitheels)
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Aug 2, 2012 14:18
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Dr Christmas posted:No one is getting free birth control. No one is trying to get free birth control.
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Aug 2, 2012 14:31
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Yeah, he's less a friend and more an acquaintance through networking, so I like it when he posts insane things that I can refute and show others who lurk (surprisingly many!) just how poorly thought out his stances are. He's definitely "one of those" Libertarians.
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Aug 2, 2012 16:03
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Awesome post Arglebargle III. One recommendation might be to change the part about, "can your family raise taxes?" to "can your family give itself a raise anytime it wants?" But overall a really really good post. I wish I had a reason to copy and paste it to Facebook.
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Aug 2, 2012 16:54
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Sarion posted:Awesome post Arglebargle III. One recommendation might be to change the part about, "can your family raise taxes?" to "can your family give itself a raise anytime it wants?" But overall a really really good post. I wish I had a reason to copy and paste it to Facebook. One image that always pops into my head when people use the family analogy. "Kids, it looks like my monthly hummer-filled-with-diamond-encrused-assault-rifles put us in the red. Uncle Gordon from Wall Street cleaned out the fridge again, so if I'm going to keep doing that while he's here crashing in Timmy's bedroom, you guys are going to have to fend for yourselves for food. Also, tell grandma she won't be getting her heart pills this month, either. Try not to startle her when you do it. Suzie, tell Timmy not to let his stomach growl so loud. That's class warfare!" Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Aug 2, 2012 |
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Aug 2, 2012 18:08
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Armacham posted:This is apparently a thing now on facebook. Respond with this: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/01/americans-tax-reform/do-olympic-medalists-owe-9000-irs/
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Aug 2, 2012 22:26
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Guilty posted:Respond with this: Ugh, CTR's "rebuttal" is obnoxious. Oh deducting expenses is so hard not everyone is going to reduce their tax bill by TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS because man, receipts? How do they work?
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Aug 2, 2012 22:47
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Dr Christmas posted:No one is getting free birth control. No one is trying to get free birth control. Exactly. People are already paying premiums either directly from their own pockets or as part of their compensation packages at their places of employment and all this new regulation means is that the co-pay is eliminated for contraceptives. It's just shifting the costs slightly more onto the insurer rather than letting them keep more of the burden on the consumer. It's not "stealing" from anyone, especially since these libertarian morons can just as easily take advantage of the same opportunities for co-pay-less contraceptives. I'm consistently amused whenever libertarians and other conservatives complain about "socialism" in discussions about the PPACA, where they bitch about how it harms private insurance. How lovely is our public education system that these retards don't realize that insurance of any kind (health, life, automotive, etc.) is one of the purest distilled forms of socialism existing in our society? It's just amazing to me how many kinds of public (Social Security, Medicare, etc.) and private (insurance) socialism these assholes actually love and take part in while they keep mouthing off about how terrible socialism is. Defenestration posted:Not to mention that birth control is one of the most important and effective public health and safety issues but I'm sure your dumbass friend thinks taxing people to pay for public roads is theft too so I'd go with Dr. Christmas's angle But many of those people don't care about the ends or consequences of these actions or the evidence of tangible benefits to them, all the care about is the principle of the matter. They are intentionalists, it the motive and means that matter to them even if they lead to terrible consequences (e.g. people dying). This is why so many other people are against ending the Drug War. It doesn't matter to them that the Drug War actually makes drug problems worse (e.g. wasting money on law enforcement and incarceration, enriching cartels and other organized crime gangs/groups, causing more overdoses, disease transfers, and other drug user harm, etc.), all that matters is that they are against drug use and don't allow people to do and use things that they find to be immoral.
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Mitt Romney's Fiscal Policy Applied to a Family Budget "Dear," a woman called to her husband as he got home from work, "we really need to fix our budget, we're spending way more each month than we bring in." "I know," her husband replied,"but don't worry, I have a plan. First we need to cut way back on our grocery bill. We're way too picky about the quality of our food and where it comes from. Plus, Billy and Susan can just share a lunch at school. And the big hole in our roof over the upstairs bathroom is going to have wait to get fixed, and we'll have to hold off on all those renovations to make the house more energy efficient." "But won't those save us money in the long run?" she asked. Ignoring her, he continued on, "And we need to cut out the money we're saving for the kids' to go to college. If they can't handle school while working full-time, they don't really deserve it anyways. Then there's my mom's prescriptions, she's got fifteen different pills a day!" "She needs those to live!" "Of course, we're not going to stop helping her buy them completely. But if she cuts back to taking them only every other day, she can have her medicine and cut the cost in half! And then there's your dad, his assisted living is costing us an arm and a leg. If we move him into a small one room apartment it'll be a fraction of the cost. And once he's away from people constantly doing everything for him, he'll have a chance to innovate new ways of taking care of himself! Also, I'm going to make some calls tomorrow to see about changing our health insurance. We've got all this extra coverage we don't need, like maternity care." "What?!" his wife exclaimed. "Then what will we do about this?" She asked, running her hands over her swollen belly. "I figured you could use the bath tub upstairs. You've given birth twice before, you don't really need some over priced doctor telling you that need to push." "What about our home security system, its costing us $1500 a month." "Good point, I'll call them, too. Hopefully they can get us something better for $1750 a month." "No, my point was we already spend more than every other house in the neighborhood combined." "Exactly, no one's going to even think about getting in here." Seeing the worry on his wife's face, he gave her a big smile, "I know it'll be tight around here, but don't worry, I have some great news. At work today, I asked my boss to reduce my pay by 20%. I figured it would help the company grow faster, and then they'll repay me later with a promotion! And on my way home, I stopped by Mic's and bought us another armored Hummer. It came with two gun racks in the back, and a spot to hold a pistol in every seat. Don't worry, I went ahead and bought those, too. So it's already fully loaded. And then this weekend we can use it when I go back to Mic's pick up our new boat before we take it for a spin around the lake!" Seeing that his wife was only becoming more distraught he pulled her close in a hug and asked her, "Everything will be ok, I promise. You trust me, don't you?" "Of course I do," she replied. Bending down slightly, he whispered in her ear, "Welcome to the Republican Party."
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Aug 3, 2012 01:41
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Not bad but trying to compare a government budget to a household budget is the kind of thing we avoid doing.
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RagnarokAngel posted:Not bad but trying to compare a government budget to a household budget is the kind of thing we avoid doing. I think it's meant as a rebuttal, to post to people who mindlessly forward these types of things. It's also the hilarious reductio ad absurdum result of trying to compare sovereign debt to Tina's AMEX.
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Aug 3, 2012 02:42
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Edit: NVM, bad post.
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I finally unsubscribed to this dude's posts on Facebook. My penchant for responding to his anti-liberal persecution complex-ridden posts is taking away from my video game and porn time. But I got in one last argument today about Chick-Fil-A. A female friend of his insists that she has not been spending extra money at CFA because of homophobia ("I don't care what gays do"), but to support poor Cathy who's been persecuted for exercising free speech. So I bite:Me posted:If Cathy and his company donated against women's rights instead of homosexual rights, would you still be buying an extra chicken sandwich to show support for his free speech? The food would still be delicious, but those supporting him and eating at CFA would be called sexist and anti-woman instead of homophobic. The results would be the same, if the conservatives support him not because of what he's said, but because he has a right to say it and is getting crap from the left for it. Her response posted:Yes. I support them because they are being bellied by a group trying to curb their free speech. My views on what Cathy does or doesn't do are immaterial. I guess I should admire her consistency, despite her admitting that she would willingly and knowingly give money to a company donating against her interests to support a bigoted owner's right to be a bigot.
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I've been responding to quite a few of those Chick-Fil-A posts on fb recently. No emails. It is astounding that these people, without exception, do not realize: 1. Dan Cathy's right to free speech was not infringed upon by the government 2. Dan Cathy does not have a constitutional right to conduct business anywhere he pleases. 3. The 1st amendment doesn't guarantee you speech without any consequences whatsoever. Where were these dumbasses when the Dixie Chicks were boycotted, when Starbucks got hit, or when JC Penny got into hot water?
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TotalLossBrain posted:I've been responding to quite a few of those Chick-Fil-A posts on fb recently. No emails. It is astounding that these people, without exception, do not realize: 4. The boycott is not just about what Dan Cathy said, it's also about the millions of dollars that have been funneled through WinShape into anti-SSM and anti-gay groups like Exodus International, the Family Research Council, and the Marriage & Family Foundation. The last one's a big one, because they've gotten some of the highest donations from WinShape (over $1M in 2010) and were founded in part by Donald Cathy, Senior VP of Chick-Fil-A. And if anyone tries to claim that M&FF or its parent organization, Marriage CoMission, aren't anti-SSM, you can point out the fact that they list Marriage Under Fire, an anti-SSM book from Focus on the Family, as a resource. I just had to unfriend someone last night who went on a tirade about how activism and boycotts are evil things (phrased something like "hurting people's business for their cause", also claiming that somehow the boycott was taking away others' right to eat there) and ineffective, how gay rights activists are militant people trying to strip away people's freedom to be themselves (her exact words), and how she thinks that gays should be allowed to be together, just not married (separate but equal?). She's black.  I understand that a lot of people don't think that the Civil Rights Movement of the 60's and the current LGBTQ movement are the same/similar/equally legitimate, but how can the tactics that were legitimate for one movement not be legitimate for the other? Oh, also, had someone in a different CFA cluterfuck thread ask why liberals weren't boycotting Starbucks for not supporting our troops. I mean, gently caress me running, that bullshit's eight years old. Kugyou no Tenshi fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Aug 3, 2012 |
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So I just had the urge to write a letter based on the false premise that I'm the parent of a gay child who was so distraught about "Appreciation Day," that he refused to leave the house, and mail it to Mike Huckabee. Is something wrong with me? I guess I'm just freaking out that the message of the largest protest in recent memory was "God hates Fags." I thought we were moving past this 
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