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I think it would be cool to have opengl capability in a browser; it just seems like a huge piece of poo poo right now but then again pretty much all technology is a piece of poo poo
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Toady posted:- web developers for the last 15 years yes, and we have been continually proven right
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Aug 3, 2012 17:29
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*Waits impatiently for twitter to do whatever the gently caress it's doing*
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Aug 3, 2012 17:31
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Tiny Bug Child posted:yes, and we have been continually proven right web developers actually believe this
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Aug 3, 2012 17:33
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Toady posted:web developers actually believe this it's kind of like the AI effect; as soon as the browser can do something new it's expected behavior that nobody thinks is special
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Aug 3, 2012 18:04
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anyway i'm going to be over here continuing to develop rich interactive web applications and completely not giving a poo poo about optimization
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Aug 3, 2012 18:05
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optimization is the domain of the all-but-obsolete desktop "developer"
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Aug 3, 2012 18:05
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yea nobody uses native apps anymore *whistles while sliding iphone under rug*
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Aug 3, 2012 18:07
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i specifically said desktop, not mobile
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Aug 3, 2012 18:07
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Aug 3, 2012 18:09
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Tiny Bug Child posted:i specifically said desktop, not mobile let me tell you about a little thing called the mac app store
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yall gettin TBC'ed
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Aug 3, 2012 18:19
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Tiny Bug Child posted:optimization is the domain of the all-but-obsolete desktop "developer" hope u take ur free lunch disappearing better than they did
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Aug 3, 2012 18:19
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Tiny Bug Child posted:optimization is the domain of the all-but-obsolete desktop "developer" Yeah, gently caress those guys writing browsers.
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Aug 3, 2012 18:26
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Web optimization is handled by google they've optimized web performance so much that web code can run to great acclaim on the server, or even as part of your database
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Aug 3, 2012 18:42
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0xB16B00B5 posted:Web optimization is handled by google they've optimized web performance so much that web code can run to great acclaim on the server, or even as part of your database or you can just write everything in c
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Aug 3, 2012 18:53
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write verything in C, and what? you're still poo poo out of luck and don't have anything functional. you still need your web framework, and then frontend coded, and pretty soon you need like a dozen people with various expertise in 2 dozen languages and programming paradigms. or you just use node + express + enyo, and anyone on your small dedicated team can debug and fix any part of your app stack. "Oh god, bob is the only one who knows his lovely C optimized beyond comprehension code, and he's on vacation, so we're poo poo out of luck for 2 weeks while angry customer bang down our door." you may lose slight performance versus C, but shipping maintainable code faster is way more important than a 5% speed hit.
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Aug 3, 2012 19:05
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0xB16B00B5 posted:write verything in C, and what? you're still poo poo out of luck and don't have anything functional. you still need your web framework, and then frontend coded, and pretty soon you need like a dozen people with various expertise in 2 dozen languages and programming paradigms. nope, just write everything in c if your programmers can't write c, then get programmers who can write c
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Aug 3, 2012 19:10
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gucci void main posted:or you can just write everything in c they tried that with php and http://www.coelho.net/php_cve.html
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Aug 3, 2012 19:11
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gucci void main posted:nope, just write everything in c no programmers can write c many have the hubris to think they can though
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Aug 3, 2012 19:12
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gucci void main posted:nope, just write everything in c mega lol yes, let's write a modern web application in some antiquated janky-rear end language from the 90s. we'll have pointers
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Aug 3, 2012 19:15
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sure, let's manually manage my memory, threading, write awful verbose code without monads, ignore every enhancement to langauges in the past 2 decades and still have 0 progress on my front end.
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Aug 3, 2012 19:15
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phonegap and the like will become better and better each year, so if you want your lovely native code to manage, you still can.
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Aug 3, 2012 19:18
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haha phonegap is so bad. it can draw some buttons and text i guess
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Aug 3, 2012 19:21
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php is pretty much a nice, friendly wrapper around c that takes out all of the retarded unnecessary stuff (pointers), adds in modern advancements that you have to have to actually be considered a usable language (memory management, a good oo system, lots of ez web stuff). so i write c every day, but it's good, modern c.
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Aug 3, 2012 19:21
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0xB16B00B5 posted:sure, let's manually manage my memory, threading, write awful verbose code without monads, ignore every enhancement to langauges in the past 2 decades and still have 0 progress on my front end. and in 30 years, literally no one except old people will understand how any of it actually works
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Aug 3, 2012 19:23
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C is the cobol of today. enjoy being a depressed alcoholic neckbeard maintaining legacy banking code
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Aug 3, 2012 19:25
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0xB16B00B5 posted:C is the cobol of today. lol if you believe any of that
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Aug 3, 2012 19:27
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im gonna seriously lol @ all of you when you have to deal with access violations in 2040 from using bad antiquated C languages
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Aug 3, 2012 19:27
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0xB16B00B5 posted:im gonna seriously lol @ all of you when you have to deal with access violations in 2040 from using bad antiquated C languages yes, lol 
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Aug 3, 2012 19:35
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lol if you think C is a language for writing lovely CRUD apps for banks. try projecting less!
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Aug 3, 2012 19:38
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gucci void main posted:nope, just write everything in c
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Aug 3, 2012 19:38
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JawnV6 posted:hope u take ur free lunch disappearing better than they did
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Aug 3, 2012 19:39
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emd-0dgQGNc
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Tiny Bug Child posted:php is pretty much a nice, friendly wrapper around c that takes out all of the retarded unnecessary stuff (pointers), adds in modern advancements that you have to have to actually be considered a usable language (memory management, a good oo system, lots of ez web stuff). so i write c every day, but it's good, modern c. This, this right here is what makes yospos great.
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Aug 3, 2012 19:50
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tef posted:programmers my ADC is bouncing around like a loving jackrabbit when i change clocks. gently caress me with a pineapple!
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Otto Skorzeny posted:gently caress me with a pineapple! Turns out that's probably illegal text in my country, I just got arrested jerk.
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0xB16B00B5 posted:write verything in C, and what? you're still poo poo out of luck and don't have anything functional. you still need your web framework, and then frontend coded, and pretty soon you need like a dozen people with various expertise in 2 dozen languages and programming paradigms. this is why gwt is ownage. you get to use one language everywhere and program your servers with big boy tools
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