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i'm trying as hard as i can not to have a career and so far it's working
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tef posted:
it's more just word of mouth and you're constantly busy and can bill $140-$150 an hour because of demand
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Aug 7, 2012 02:35
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MY MERITOCRACY
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trex eaterofcadrs posted:all programmers are bad this is dumb and not true
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Aug 7, 2012 03:06
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Sweeper posted:this is dumb and not true you're dumb for believing in people
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Aug 7, 2012 03:34
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vapid cutlery posted:i'm trying as hard as i can not to have a career and so far it's working madvise(this, 1024, MADV_DONTNEED);
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Aug 7, 2012 04:18
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Meiwaku posted:madvise(this, 1024, MADV_DONTNEED); this kind of thing really belongs in CoC
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Aug 7, 2012 04:19
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i know enough c already i just want a noob baby primer on osx coding so i can tinker with touch events, cocoa less so i just figured a simple ui would make visualising it easier the point where ill be way over my head is when i try to make a touch controlled midi synth but thats probably more of a winter project
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Aug 7, 2012 08:09
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cleanhands posted:i know enough c already i just want a noob baby primer on osx coding so i can tinker with touch events, cocoa less so i just figured a simple ui would make visualising it easier do the stanford course
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Aug 7, 2012 09:39
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vapid cutlery posted:this kind of thing really belongs in CoC would not want to pollute it
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Aug 7, 2012 13:48
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vapid cutlery posted:do the stanford course isnt that an ios one
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Aug 7, 2012 14:31
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Sweeper posted:this is dumb and not true sorry kid, it's true, every single person that i respect as a programmer will readily admit the human race is writing poo poo software at this stage of the game
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Aug 7, 2012 14:39
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cleanhands posted:i know enough c already i just want a noob baby primer on osx coding so i can tinker with touch events, cocoa less so i just figured a simple ui would make visualising it easier the problem isn't the language it's the api. so have fun reading i guess?
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Aug 7, 2012 14:41
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trex eaterofcadrs posted:sorry kid, it's true, every single person that i respect as a programmer will readily admit the human race is writing poo poo software at this stage of the game all software will be poo poo until computers are self programming at which point we'll all be out of our phoney baloney jobs fyi
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Aug 7, 2012 14:44
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Stringent posted:the problem isn't the language it's the api. so have fun reading i guess? have fun reading what though, cmon yall
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Aug 7, 2012 15:00
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cleanhands posted:have fun reading what though, cmon yall https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/navigation/index.html https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/navigation/ there, pick your poison and have fun reading for the rest of eternity
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Aug 7, 2012 15:05
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cleanhands posted:have fun reading what though, cmon yall the apple docs, they're very well written and mostly up to date
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Aug 7, 2012 15:06
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oh i was afraid that would be the same poo poo as in the xcode help files but welp it actually looks useful, shoulda gone there first sorry everyone
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Aug 7, 2012 15:22
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Stringent posted:the apple docs, they're very well written and mostly up to date the class references are often out of date, to the point where apple often recommends just reading the header files
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Aug 7, 2012 17:48
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Toady posted:the class references are often out of date, to the point where apple often recommends just reading the header files drat, i have to be a programmer
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Aug 7, 2012 18:36
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thank goodness for Open Quickly (shift-command-o)
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Aug 7, 2012 18:50
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vapid cutlery posted:drat, i have to be a programmer documentation that's not machine-validated or derived directly from the source is dubious at best
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Aug 7, 2012 18:52
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or or or better yet, we could have a word .doc that gets compiled!
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Aug 7, 2012 18:57
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Toady posted:thank goodness for Open Quickly (shift-command-o) i usually just command-click on stuff. or alt-click if i want to read the docs
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Aug 7, 2012 18:57
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JawnV6 posted:or or or better yet, we could have a word .doc that gets compiled!
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Aug 7, 2012 18:57
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trex eaterofcadrs posted:sorry kid, it's true, every single person that i respect as a programmer will readily admit the human race is writing poo poo software at this stage of the game a big problem is a culture where "i have to talk fast because I don't have time to listen" is encouraged. applied to software that becomes "I have to get this code done before the customer changes their mind" and the corollary "ok, that didn't work, maybe if I can get the code done so fast that they haven't even finished their sentence I can stump them" which is then sugarcoated as rapid application development (RAD!!!) or prototyping I wouldn't say all software is poo poo, it's just the best it can be
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Aug 7, 2012 19:01
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why isn't there a widespread movement to manage the expectations of customers since they all seem to think that software is easy
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Aug 7, 2012 19:03
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vapid cutlery posted:why isn't there a widespread movement to manage the expectations of customers since they all seem to think that software is easy it is tho
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Aug 7, 2012 19:03
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Socracheese posted:it is tho http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2773485&pagenumber=279&perpage=40#post401897709
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vapid cutlery posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2773485&pagenumber=279&perpage=40#post401897709 somebody messing up C isn't evidence that software is hard, just evidence that C is bad
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Aug 7, 2012 19:11
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Cocoa Crispies posted:somebody messing up C isn't evidence that software is hard, just evidence that C is bad it's evidence that they have no idea what they're talking about
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Aug 7, 2012 19:13
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Cocoa Crispies posted:documentation that's not machine-validated or derived directly from the source is dubious at best its almost 9 years since i was tearing my hair out trying to make sense of the java docs, drat
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Aug 7, 2012 19:16
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yep software is not easy and i'm wrong because i didn't know the syntax for a dynamically allocated matrix in C one time. Also I make a point of saying that I am not a mast3r cod3r and I am literally in college u mad tho
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Aug 7, 2012 19:20
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Socracheese posted:yep software is not easy and i'm wrong because i didn't know the syntax for a dynamically allocated matrix in C one time. Also I make a point of saying that I am not a mast3r cod3r and I am literally in college pointing out obvious flaws makes me "mad"? what are you talking about
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Aug 7, 2012 19:21
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"i'm wrong and generally a dumbass but if i call someone mad i automatically win" try gbs
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Aug 7, 2012 19:22
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Socracheese posted:yep software is not easy and i'm wrong because i didn't know the syntax for a dynamically allocated matrix in C one time. Also I make a point of saying that I am not a mast3r cod3r and I am literally in college if software is easy why do you have to go to college for it
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Aug 7, 2012 19:23
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lol if u r literally in college rather than just acting like it all the time
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Aug 7, 2012 19:23
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Cocoa Crispies posted:if software is easy why do you have to go to college for it didn't you read what he said earlier? he totally doesn't http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3481275&pagenumber=129&perpage=40#post406283538
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Aug 7, 2012 19:31
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vapid cutlery posted:didn't you read what he said earlier? he totally doesn't http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3481275&pagenumber=129&perpage=40#post406283538 i think the right answer is "programming is easy, software is hard"
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Aug 7, 2012 19:32
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the worst part of programming is developing software yea
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