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Molten Llama
Sep 20, 2006

eggsovereasy posted:

Can someone recommend a clamp or something to attach a reflector to a stand for when a wall isn't handy or should I just skip ahead and buy a second flash/stand/umbrella?

LiteDisc holder plus a Super Clamp (with baby stud). Clamp the Super Clamp to a free section of light stand, attach the LiteDisc holder to the Super Clamp's baby stud.

Or if you don't need the stand to multitask, just toss the LiteDisc holder on the lightstand's own baby stud. But I'd still buy the Super Clamp too because they come in handy all the time.

If you can live without any real control over the reflector (e.g., you're using a very large one), giant A-clamps also work for fastening a reflector to a stand and cost all of $2.

Molten Llama fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Aug 3, 2012

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eggsovereasy
May 6, 2011

Molten Llama posted:

If you can live without any real control over the reflector (e.g., you're using a very large one), giant A-clamps also work for fastening a reflector to a stand and cost all of $2.

I'm not sure what a very large one is, but mine is 40 or 42 inches, something like that. It seems big.

Thanks for the links too.

thetzar
Apr 22, 2001
Fallen Rib
Today's lesson: It is very, very hard to avoid forehead glare and skin-uglification in a dramatic lighting situation.


mister kelly by thetzar, on Flickr


ms proulx by thetzar, on Flickr

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



You can always, you know, retouch it.

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
A little translucent powder goes a long way. If you still get shine, use the clone stamp set to darken and 20% opacity to soften the shine.

David Pratt
Apr 21, 2001
I think using a larger light source and moving it closer can help to diffuse the situation.

thetzar
Apr 22, 2001
Fallen Rib

Verman posted:

A little translucent powder goes a long way. If you still get shine, use the clone stamp set to darken and 20% opacity to soften the shine.

Translucent powder, eh? Going to have to look into that.

I really know next to nothing about retouching, generally; I guess it's time for me to start a-learnin'.

As for the light source, it was a shoot-through umbrella on top of my office's studio strobe, and was already pretty close-in. I'm trying to get us to buy a large softbox, to improve this situation.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Verman posted:

A little translucent powder goes a long way. If you still get shine, use the clone stamp set to darken and 20% opacity to soften the shine.

The more you do the more you find you'd be happier with just a little extra X; more lights, lighting modifiers, a makeup artist you can call up to stop people looking shiny and instead look professional... :) Yeah, photoshop will do in a pinch but a bit powderpuffing will save your clonetool finger.

Molten Llama
Sep 20, 2006

thetzar posted:

Translucent powder, eh? Going to have to look into that.

Easy mode: Go to a department store makeup counter or a specialty store like Sephora and explicitly tell them you need a powder for photography. It'll cost a little more than hitting up Rite-Aid, but you'll know it'll work. Many of the staff members only work part time, too, and freelance as makeup artists.

A lot of the cheaper stuff at the drugstore, and some of the expensive hippie stuff, is loaded up with minerals that can just make things worse. Ever shot a group photo and had half the women turn into ghosts? Or seen the red carpet shots where women have reverse raccoon eyes? Wrong makeup.

CarrotFlowers
Dec 17, 2010

Blerg.
I use Make Up Forever's HD microfinish powder on myself and whenever I do the makeup on a portrait session. It's colorless so can be used on anyone and unless you over apply, it's not visible at all but cuts the shine really nicely.

TheAngryDrunk
Jan 31, 2003

"I don't know why I know that; I took four years of Spanish."

eggsovereasy posted:

I posted a portrait on the previous page and someone commented that light was too contrasty and a reflector would help. I took this afterwards right next to a white wall to reflect the light back and I think it looks much more balanced.



Can someone recommend a clamp or something to attach a reflector to a stand for when a wall isn't handy or should I just skip ahead and buy a second flash/stand/umbrella?

I like doing these headshots, but my next goal is to get outside and try portraits with some environment around the subject.

I use this one:http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=orderHistory&A=details&Q=&sku=357125&is=REG

You will need another light stand.

thetzar
Apr 22, 2001
Fallen Rib
This is something I did today. My boss needed a head-torsoshot with a quickness, and huddled over my shoulder as we went through a few dozen options. He selected this one, though he wasn't entirely pleased with his face.

In actual use, the company will use the full-color version — but I tinkered into black and white on my own, and kind of like where I ended up with it in post.


mister stewart by thetzar, on Flickr

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



thetzar posted:

This is something I did today. My boss needed a head-torsoshot with a quickness, and huddled over my shoulder as we went through a few dozen options. He selected this one, though he wasn't entirely pleased with his face.

In actual use, the company will use the full-color version — but I tinkered into black and white on my own, and kind of like where I ended up with it in post.


mister stewart by thetzar, on Flickr

Nice! Pretty sharp, and nice composition and pose. I don't think I'd like the colour version better. But show us if you'd like.

an AOL chatroom
Oct 3, 2002

Did my first headshot session today, curious to hear some critique on this:


edit: pullback shot of my creeptastic basement studio setup

an AOL chatroom fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Aug 4, 2012

Sovi3t
Jan 11, 2005
purple monkey dishwasher

bisticles posted:

Did my first headshot session today, curious to hear some critique on this:


It's a nice shot, but these things stick out to me:
1) The photo looks a bit warm (too yellow) (calibration issue?)
2) Try desaturating blue a little bit; currently it draws attention from the face, IMO
3) Lighting--her face has little depth, but the shadow on her body from the vest is very harsh
4) Hair seems slightly frizzy, this is always hard to control, but even more so on such a light background where every hair stands out clearly

an AOL chatroom
Oct 3, 2002

Sovi3t posted:

It's a nice shot, but these things stick out to me:
1) The photo looks a bit warm (too yellow) (calibration issue?)
2) Try desaturating blue a little bit; currently it draws attention from the face, IMO
3) Lighting--her face has little depth, but the shadow on her body from the vest is very harsh
4) Hair seems slightly frizzy, this is always hard to control, but even more so on such a light background where every hair stands out clearly

Cool, thanks for taking a look and giving some pointers. Have to say that I agree with every one of them.

I used a color calibration card, but you're right, she does seem a bit warm compared to standard skintones. I wonder if it was her makeup? Either way, dropping it about 300k brings it more in line with where it oughta be.

Many thanks!

RizieN
May 15, 2004

and it was still hot.
I didn't get near as many shots as I wanted to while I was in Chicago, but I do really like this one. Of course it was unplanned and just a random shot I snapped before we left the hotel that day... Also the first intentional black and white conversion I've ever done, normally if I'm doing B&W I do it on film because the B&W was part of the idea, not an afterthought and if I'm intentionally doing B&W I do like that film look. This one I kind of had the B&W in my mind from the start, though, and I think it works. Besides the colors are kind of dull anyway.


Untitled by zachary.spradlin, on Flickr

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

RizieN posted:

I didn't get near as many shots as I wanted to while I was in Chicago, but I do really like this one. Of course it was unplanned and just a random shot I snapped before we left the hotel that day... Also the first intentional black and white conversion I've ever done, normally if I'm doing B&W I do it on film because the B&W was part of the idea, not an afterthought and if I'm intentionally doing B&W I do like that film look. This one I kind of had the B&W in my mind from the start, though, and I think it works. Besides the colors are kind of dull anyway.


Untitled by zachary.spradlin, on Flickr

Clone that tiny bit of the windowframe out, it's hella distracting... Other than that, very nice; I like there's some real subtle definition around her lip and nostril line, a lot of 'silhouettes' wold just be blacked out there. If there's anything hidden in the shadows there that Lightroom can pull out, try and just give the hint of form as an alternate development and see what it looks like.

RizieN
May 15, 2004

and it was still hot.
Thanks, I totally over looked that bit of the window. And I shot this with a D800 so there's plenty of detail in the shadows, I have a hard time knowing which development version to "use" as a final (as if I'm using them for anything anyway...)

In this one I dodged a bit on her face and hair:

Untitled 2 by zachary.spradlin, on Flickr

And here's how much detail I could pull if I wanted to:


I always get stuck in between edits, so a lot of times I'll just do one and if there's no major issues stick with it, until I can develop a certain style that I'd like to stick with. I'm kind of bad at this whole "people" thing though, so I'm still learning a lot and appreciate the input.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

It's good.

I also want to steal your camera and your wife but that's neither here or there.

RizieN
May 15, 2004

and it was still hot.
You might get your chance to shoot her next April when we're in Europe, but that's about as far as I can let it go.

You can violate my camera all you want though, as long as I get it back ;)

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

RizieN posted:

You might get your chance to shoot her next April when we're in Europe, but that's about as far as I can let it go.

You can violate my camera all you want though, as long as I get it back ;)

I'd be down with that!

I should have a 5d3 by that time so we can have a shoot off.

The D800 is a seriously sick portrait camera though, I know more D800 shooters now than 5d2 users. Complete flip.

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.
Shot this last weekend, printed it last night. Rolleiflex 3.5 with Tmax 400. Now that my Hassy is fit for duty I'll be using the Rollei a lot less, but I sure do like the look I can get when I actually hit my focus.


Maria in the Field by McMadCow, on Flickr

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



Your work is always great, but I always wanted to ask you why you leave the edges of the photos after developing?

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.

Santa is strapped posted:

...why you leave the edges of the photos after developing?

I just really like the look of a sloppy border. Especially since each frame is a bit different. I think it's a cool way of taking advantage of the medium, that's all.

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



Ah, I see. I thought that you left it to create a dream-like feel to it. (wow that sounded cliche but I mean it)

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.
Honestly it's far less metaphorical than that. I actually like it as a physical signature of the process.

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

McMadCow posted:

Honestly it's far less metaphorical than that. I actually like it as a physical signature of the process.

It will also let plebes know that your camera is better than theirs, now that you are part of the Hasselkrew. :snoop:

(Note to poors: Hasselblad backs have little vee notches cut into the film frames so that we know who is cool and who is not. Get on our level Leica.)

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.
:ssh: Bronicas have those notches too...

8th-snype
Aug 28, 2005

My office is in the front room of a run-down 12 megapixel sensor but the rent suits me and the landlord doesn't ask many questions.

Dorkroom Short Fiction Champion 2012


Young Orc

McMadCow posted:

:ssh: Bronicas have those notches too...

Nope, Bronica just shot their ads with Hasselblads.
http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/photoads.html

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

8th-samurai posted:

Nope, Bronica just shot their ads with Hasselblads.
http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/photoads.html

Bahahaha, owned.

thetzar
Apr 22, 2001
Fallen Rib

McMadCow posted:

Shot this last weekend, printed it last night. Rolleiflex 3.5 with Tmax 400. Now that my Hassy is fit for duty I'll be using the Rollei a lot less, but I sure do like the look I can get when I actually hit my focus.


Maria in the Field by McMadCow, on Flickr

I've been following your photos for years, and I just want to say that I've always found them inspiring. Each one seems to be more than just a model shot; they give a sense of story and place. Fantastic work.

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



8th-samurai posted:

Nope, Bronica just shot their ads with Hasselblads.
http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/photoads.html

Oh snap. I might cut some V's into my Bro's back now...

McMadCow
Jan 19, 2005

With our rifles and grenades and some help from God.

8th-samurai posted:

Nope, Bronica just shot their ads with Hasselblads.
http://medfmt.8k.com/mf/photoads.html

Huh, that's interesting. That wasn't specifically what I was talking about, but that ad is pretty funny. I thought you were talking about the notches in the corners.
From my Bronica ETRs:

Fashion Models Frequently Run Away From Things by McMadCow, on Flickr

thetzar posted:

I've been following your photos for years, and I just want to say that I've always found them inspiring. Each one seems to be more than just a model shot; they give a sense of story and place. Fantastic work.

Thanks man, I appreciate it. :)

sw1gger
Sep 19, 2004
meowcakes

McMadCow posted:

Huh, that's interesting. That wasn't specifically what I was talking about, but that ad is pretty funny. I thought you were talking about the notches in the corners.
From my Bronica ETRs:

Fashion Models Frequently Run Away From Things by McMadCow, on Flickr


Thanks man, I appreciate it. :)

Oh man - you guys are starting to make me jelz with all this film :( I really like that last piece. For all you hasslekrew folk - how much did you spend on your gear?

My contribution:

Cyberbob
Mar 29, 2006
Prepare for doom. doom. doooooom. doooooom.
My wife recently completed a personal project of hers, capturing headshots of various acquaintances. Non models, but interesting people non the less. We got about 10 final images from the day.

A few days later, we had one person that wished to pull out because of a personal conflict with another participant, and given the circumstances that were discussed, we were happy to grant that and said we wouldn't release his image.

A month later, and we're about to release them online to our FB page, etc. Issue is, we now have another person not wanting their image to be released. This just fucks me off. They've had a good long time to back out, knew our work so they knew what they were getting in to. His argument is that he doesn't think it's a good shot of him.

We've got model releases for all, so that's not technically a problem.

This is the image:



Here's some more from the series:



They're not exactly horrible shots. What the heck do you think we should do?

We're in two minds about it. Do we say "Too bad, bitches" and post it anyway, knowing we're probably burning a bridge. Do we fold, and give in just because he says a month after the shoot that he doesn't want to be on there?


Does Angelina Jolie/Barack Obama/Paris Hilton/Bill Clinton's PR person tell Martin Schoeller not to release anything but the most flattering headshot?

bobmarleysghost
Mar 7, 2006



If you have his model release, just post the photo.

CarrotFlowers
Dec 17, 2010

Blerg.
If you don't care about possibly losing a friend. If you do care, then don't post it. Pretty rude on their part though.

somnambulist
Mar 27, 2006

quack quack



What camera did you shoot those with? They look great :) Sucks your subjects are being a boob.

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evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

somnambulist posted:

What camera did you shoot those with? They look great :) Sucks your subjects are being a boob.
Any semi-recent DSLR.

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