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Running out of ethers is not an issue in FF9, so long as you're stealing from every enemy (which you should be). I was chewing them down like candy and still seldom had fewer than 80-90 of the things.
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Bongo Bill posted:Freelancer can wear any equipment and can equip two abilities. They automatically benefit from all passive abilities from all the jobs that class has mastered, except the ones that have a downside like Berserk, and as a result, they also have the stat boosts from all mastered jobs. I think that it also only applies to ones that a class has by default, with the sole exceptions of Berserk and Undead. A Freelancer won't have innate Two-Handed just from mastering Knight, for example. E; And, hell, speaking of V, I recently learned that (realistically) there is one boss fight a team of 4 Berserkers cannot defeat*. That one? Neo Exdeath. It's possible, I guess, just with a billion caveats and won't really ever happen without being stupidly lucky. You might be wondering about Omniscient, then.  He's doable with an Air Knife and two Mage Mashers. The only issue is that sometimes you need to restart the fight manually since there's a set number of fights you can get when you start that's chosen from whenever he uses Reset (in this case). If one of them doesn't end with you winning, you'll be running it ad infinitum with no progress ever being made. *This was brought up in the thread before and I've been working on it, sorta, since before even then. 4 Berserkers is not the most fun I've had with this game, let's put it that way. 
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Ugato posted:It's even more fun having the game taunt you with it. Playing the PSX version, on my last playthrough I changed Ramza to a different class (ninja maybe?) to try to get my way through that fight as smoothly as possible. What's the first thing one of the ninjas do? Target him with Ultima. Ramza can't get it in the first fight with Elmdor if it makes you feel better. Only the FFTA guy you get in WotL can get it then. Ramza can learn it in the last chapter (but it's nice giving it to him immediately via your party member). Ultima in that fight was less of a bitch than trying to steal. After resetting 5 times I finally thought "hey my thief with concentration still has a 00% steal rate from behind... I wonder if they changed his skills in WOTL." Fucker has maintenance in both fights, so you have you get his katanas and the Genji gear elsewhere. By the time you get it in the iOS version you've probably beaten the game, which apparently dumps all of the WotL-added super powerful-as-gently caress stuff in to shops anyways, making Genji Gear useless. 
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Dragonatrix posted:And, hell, speaking of V, I recently learned that (realistically) there is one boss fight a team of 4 Berserkers cannot defeat*. That one? Neo Exdeath. It's possible, I guess, just with a billion caveats and won't really ever happen without being stupidly lucky. hell, I can believe it. I barely managed three Berserkers at normal endgame levels with Knight abilities and a evade tanking Phoenix Down monkey. I can't imagine how painful four would be. More importantly, why would you? I mean, it's not like FFVI where you can set Gau to a Rage and have actual input on how the rest of the fight goes, especially with FFVI's larger diversity of equipment. There's no such recourse in FFV to make 4xBerserker anything but "pray harder".
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:drat you guys know your FF9. I remember the game switches your party a bunch of times anyway but I'm definitely gonna try to settle on Eiko and Freya at least. It pretty much forces you to evenly level all available characters. I remember i failed to do so on my first FF VIII playthrough. Boy did I learn my lesson about multiple save files after saving the game just before the Adel/Rinoa boss fight, with a totally neglected and underleveled Rinoa. She'd die within a few turns, and from memory I had no way of going back to the overworld to level up more.
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Cyberbob posted:It pretty much forces you to evenly level all available characters. Her level is based off of your party's average, not her own.
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Aug 13, 2012 06:50
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Cyberbob posted:It pretty much forces you to evenly level all available characters. You actually never have to use Amarant except for Ipsen's Castle, Oeilvert/Desert Palace and Amudias, so he's the most expendable member of the party.
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Aug 13, 2012 07:19
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ApplesandOranges posted:You actually never have to use Amarant except for Ipsen's Castle, Oeilvert/Desert Palace and Amudias, so he's the most expendable member of the party. He also comes kinda late in the game so by then most people made up their mind about who they like and dont use him.
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Aug 13, 2012 12:32
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RagnarokAngel posted:He also comes kinda late in the game so by then most people made up their mind about who they like and dont use him.
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Aug 13, 2012 12:50
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Finished FF5, making it the first pre-PSX FF game I've ever beaten. That was a shitload of fun, if a bit easy late-game. It probably has my favourite final dungeon in any of the games, along with some of the best bosses. Managed to beat Omega and Shinryu pretty easily, considering - Omega took me out a couple of times and I scraped a win on my third try. Shinryu was incredibly easy after equipping Coral Rings and one Ice Shield on a Dualcasting White Mage. I had a bit of a crack at the Sealed Temple. I'm looking forward to doing the new superbosses since the originals were a little underwhelming, but I got in there and it's a bit annoyingly complex and maze-y. Probably have a crack at it tomorrow, or use a FAQ to guide me through and then try to do the supers on my own.
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Aug 13, 2012 16:35
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Playing FFX after FF13 is kind of a mind gently caress. How much of the people who worked on X went onto 13?
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Aug 14, 2012 16:26
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The similarities between the two are pretty stark. I was surprised when 13 came out and everyone was complaining about corridors and poo poo when 10 has a very similar structure. Railroaded most of the game, then a token big open plains area, then back on the corridor train. I think people will defend 10 by saying that the story kind of explained why they were always moving forward down a path, but I don't think its a good enough excuse. 13 had a reason too (they were running away or something) but doesn't change the fact that its not very interesting design. Two of my least favorite FFs for sure.
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Aug 14, 2012 17:35
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X is pretty linear for a while like XIII is, but I found the gameplay and character progression much more satisfying in X for some reason.
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Aug 14, 2012 17:37
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FFVII PC has been rereleased. It's not in any way a remake, it's basically just the original PC release updated to work on modern hardware and OSes. It's  from now until Sept 12th.NA: https://na.square-enix.com/finalfantasyvii EU: https://store.eu.square-enix.com/emea_europe/pc-windows-download/FINAL-FANTASY-VII.php
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Winks posted:FFVII PC has been rereleased. It's not in any way a remake, it's basically just the original PC release updated to work on modern hardware and OSes. It's Any word on the translation?
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Aug 14, 2012 17:57
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ImpAtom posted:Any word on the translation? Checksum of the files is the same, so I assume that it's the same as the original PC release. I would try to see if I could swap this typo fixing version of it into the game and see if it works, but their downloader is broken despite it working when they accidentally released it a bit ago 
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Aug 14, 2012 18:09
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voltron lion force posted:The similarities between the two are pretty stark. I was surprised when 13 came out and everyone was complaining about corridors and poo poo when 10 has a very similar structure. Railroaded most of the game, then a token big open plains area, then back on the corridor train. I think people will defend 10 by saying that the story kind of explained why they were always moving forward down a path, but I don't think its a good enough excuse. 13 had a reason too (they were running away or something) but doesn't change the fact that its not very interesting design. Two of my least favorite FFs for sure. I can see not liking it. personally, I think X is great, one of the best in the series actually. I recall reading it was the most popular of the series in a Famitsu survey (not that such matters, just indicating I'm not alone in enjoying it). I think XIII's poo poo on too much, but my main issue with it was that it takes so loving long to get things going. I shouldn't have first access to all party members 25 hours into the story.
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Winks posted:FFVII PC has been rereleased. It's not in any way a remake, it's basically just the original PC release updated to work on modern hardware and OSes. It's So have we found anything really terrible like Ubi-style DRM, or is it just the original cleaned up a tiny bit? If there's nothing appalling about it, I'll probably pick it up. Worst case scenario, it can just be modded and fixed up a bit.
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Artix74 posted:So have we found anything really terrible like Ubi-style DRM, or is it just the original cleaned up a tiny bit? If there's nothing appalling about it, I'll probably pick it up. Worst case scenario, it can just be modded and fixed up a bit.
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Aug 14, 2012 18:30
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Ugh, I was really hoping the achievements would be more imaginative. FF games are great for varied playstyles, it'd have been fun to see something that made you play around with the battle system or suggested a new approach to something. Instead, you get achievements for winning your first battle, beating the three acts of the game, getting a character to level 99, getting 99,999,999 gil, getting Knights Of The Round, getting Bahamut Zero, getting each final Limit Break, beating each Weapon, getting Vincent and Yuffie, mastering a Materia, mastering EVERY Materia, using each character's first Limit Break, getting a Gold Chocobo, and using the Battle Square. Doesn't even support all the inputs on the 360 pad. Edit: Got some pretty weird sound skippping in the opening cutscene. My joypad, which seemed to at least configure OK apart from the shoulder buttons, plain doesn't do anything in-game. Leovinus fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Aug 14, 2012 |
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Aug 14, 2012 18:53
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Hey, I got this and it gets stuck at the "part 2 of 3" (370.71mb) of the downloader and won't pull down any more data from the server. What's going on? I've tried everything that usually resumes any other crashed downloads I might have. Do I have to set up the proxy settings or is the download server just being a piece of poo poo? gently caress, I shoulda listened to myself and never given SE another red cent even for this.
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Aug 14, 2012 19:01
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The email I got from them mentions a 14-day cooling-off period in which you can get your money back. I'll give this a bit of a shot but so far I'm pretty amazed that they felt this update was of sufficient quality to, you know, ask money for.
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Aug 14, 2012 19:08
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Oh, okay, I am connecting to their server. It's just that it happens for about two or three seconds out of a minute and I only manage to pull down about 0.3KB/s. What the fuuuuuuuuck? It was going perfectly fine at my normal ~700KB/s rate for the first file and now it's like NOPE. Edit: And when I delete the Part 1 file, it downloads at normal speeds again! What is even wrong with this? Fur20 fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 14, 2012 |
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Aug 14, 2012 19:13
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I'm glad I bought the PC version off a friend years ago, since it sounds like this is the exact same version but with some low-effort achievements and no CDs. The PC version, though, I can mod to hell and back with CD-quality music and high resolution graphics.
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Aug 14, 2012 19:50
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Unless the launcher is checking the files, it doesn't look like it'll be difficult to mod this one the same way. The music is the original .MIDI converted to plain .ogg files so it should be pretty easily replaced.
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There is an existing mod that replaces the midi files in the original game with oggs from the soundtrack. All you have to do is copy over those oggs over the new one without bothering with the actual 'mod' part and you're good to go. Their default ogg files aren't bad though.The White Dragon posted:Oh, okay, I am connecting to their server. It's just that it happens for about two or three seconds out of a minute and I only manage to pull down about 0.3KB/s. What the fuuuuuuuuck? It was going perfectly fine at my normal ~700KB/s rate for the first file and now it's like NOPE. I contacted Square over this, it's their vendor's fault (Digital River) and it has to do with traffic load. It's stupid, but the only work around is to wait until it times out and auto-pauses the downloader then keep smashing 'resume' every time it auto-pauses until it works. Winks fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Aug 14, 2012 |
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Aug 14, 2012 20:08
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The White Dragon posted:Oh, okay, I am connecting to their server. It's just that it happens for about two or three seconds out of a minute and I only manage to pull down about 0.3KB/s. What the fuuuuuuuuck? It was going perfectly fine at my normal ~700KB/s rate for the first file and now it's like NOPE. The hilariously terrible way in which subscribing, unsubscribing, and patching FF11 has always been handled in terms of complexity makes me hellof wary about downloading anything from SE. If this was on Steam I might have already bought it.
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Aug 14, 2012 20:09
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Can anyone take any screens? Is it the same exact loving poo poo at FF7 PC?
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Aug 14, 2012 20:12
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This should not be a goddamned thing.
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Aug 14, 2012 20:55
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LoudLoudNoise posted:This should not be a goddamned thing. A game that came out during a time when a lot of people still didn't even have dial up internet; now it needs an internet connection just to play it.
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Aug 14, 2012 21:00
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Himuro posted:Can anyone take any screens? Is it the same exact loving poo poo at FF7 PC? I tried to take some and it just screenshots a black window.
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It's funny that despite all the things said in this thread, I still probably would've broken down and bought this at some point. It's just the sort of thing I do.LoudLoudNoise posted:This should not be a goddamned thing. This kills any desire to ever buy the game. That trend needs to be killed with fire right now.
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Ugato posted:This kills any desire to ever buy the game. That trend needs to be killed with fire right now. Listen, they've gotta protect their intellectual property somehow. Sooner or later somebody's going to succeed in pirating this 15 year old game!
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Aug 14, 2012 21:07
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Here we go.  It's upscaled FFVII, nothing you didn't expect. I mean, technically it's the most full-featured, prettiest version of the game available, but not by much and with caveats.
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Whoa that image size isn't doing the look of the prerendered backgrounds any favours.  Battle looks pretty great but this is why I said the PSP was a great system for this game nowadays. Beat it the other day, by the way, first time in decades, and sequels and setting expansions be damned, this game owns.(Leovinus I'm glad to see people with good taste around this forum, which your avatar identifies you as.)
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Aug 14, 2012 21:18
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Oh god, we wouldn't want someone to pirate our multi-million selling 15 year old game!
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They really put draconian always-online DRM into motherfucking Final Fantasy VII...? 
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Leovinus posted:It's Welp, you can say that again.
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LoudLoudNoise posted:This should not be a goddamned thing. Didn't I see this in a Photoshop Phriday at some point? This is really like a bad joke.
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