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boho posted:8/8 Fellowship (yes, everything), Luxon armor + the next six cheapest armors, 1 Destroyer Weapon, 1 Oppressor Weapon. I should get about 50 ecto for selling the presents. And then there is whatever money I get from the war in kryta. How much should that cover?
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zokie posted:How much effort do you think it would take for a complete Guild Wars noob to get atleast 10 HoM points if you buy the Platinum edition today? And how would you do it? Vincent Valentine posted:There's no fast way to get points with the Platinum edition. Basically no matter what anyone does, even if they just want 10 points, they're going to have to beat 2 of the 4 campaigns. Nightfall and Eye of the North, and then you have to do the entire Fellowship tree. I think 8-10 points is doable, even with Prophecies. Below is a rough guide. Comments/corrections/input would be appreciated. =========== DevilStick's Quick and Dirty Guide to Last Minute HoM Points V1.0 (8/13/2012) "I have always depended on the kindness of strangers" - Blanche DuBois, A Streetcar Named Desire This guide leverages the Fellowship and Devotion sections of HoM, ignoring the Resilience and Valor sections due to expense. Following it should allow you to achieve 8-10 points in about 30 hours of play time (10 points includes the rare pet point and gold mini point), depending on speed progressing through primary quest lines. An additional two points can be had by finishing a GW chapter and obtaining a green miniature. Achieving your goals at this point may depend greatly on the kindness of strangers for runs, free minis (especially gold/green) and the like. Resources: Guild Wars Wiki Price Checking Engine Step 1: Get some cash by selling your free Zaishen Keys and unopened birthday presents -Create a PvP only character and talk to Tolkano in the Great Temple of Balthazar. "Register" your account - Talk to High Priest Zhang, also in the Great temple of Balthazar. He will give you 50 free Tournament Reward Points (once per account). - Go back to Tolkano and exchange these points for 10 Zaishen Keys. - Sell these keys either at Kamadan (if you have Nightfall) or there in the Great temple of Balthazar. As of this writing (8/13/2012), the keys seem to go for 5K-6.5K each, so you should be able to get 50K-65K in gold. - Sell any unopened birthday presents as well. Use the price engine above to get pricing. (You can buy a white mini for less than what you can probably get from the unopened present.) - Save this gold for buying Cloth of the Brotherhood, a miniature (if you do not have an older account) and runs. Step 2: Level a character (Ranger or Ranger secondary) and get them to EOTN - For this quick and dirty guide, a ranger or ranger secondary is suggested so you can level a pet as you go and work towards the Animal Companion statue, but you could substitute a Black Widow spider run later (See Optional Step 10) - You will probably be at 10-20 hours total play time at this point - Transferring to EOTN requires a L10 character and access to one of the EOTN entry quests. - A Prophecies character can hire a runner from as far as Ascalon, or (closer) Yak's Bend to skip a bunch of missions. You still need to be L10 however to access EOTN. Step 3: Follow the beginning of the EOTN questline until you get to the Hall of Monuments and unlock Gwen and your first Monumental Tapestry piece - You will probably be at 10-20 hours total play time at this point - At this point, you will have unlocked three L20 EOTN heroes - Gwen, Vekk and Ogden Step 4: Continue ONE of the EOTN quest threads until you unlock a fourth EOTN hero and a second Monumental Tapestry piece - You will probably be at 20-30 hours total play time at this point - If you have all three GW chapters, you have access to MOX. MOX is accessible once you reach Lion's Arch/Kaineng Center/Kamadan and requires no hero armor upgrade to be added to HoM. - If you have MOX or plan to go for a Black Widow spider (See Optional Step 10), you can potentially skip Step 4 by buying a second Monumental Tapestry piece from a player, or leveling a second character to L10 and EOTN specifically to get the second piece. Step 5: Get somebody to run you through the Destruction's Depths mission - This run takes about 45 minutes - This will give you access to the Central Transfer Chamber where you can speak to Master Armorer Kor to upgrade the armor of EOTN heroes with a Cloth of the Brotherhood. Step 6: Buy three or four (see below) Cloth of the Brotherhood - You need one Cloth for each L20 EOTN hero dedicated at HoM - You can buy fewer cloth by dedicating an Animal Companion, a rare pet statue (such as the Black Widow - see Step 10) and/or MOX - Currently the Cloth of the Brotherhood is going for 4K-6K each in units of one - you can probably negotiate a bulk discount Step 7: Use your first Monumental Tapestry piece to unlock the Fellowship section of your HoM - Fill it with five statues (see Step 6) - One should be an Animal Companion statue (gives a HoM point) - Following Optional Step 10 will allow you to dedicate the Black Widow statue and give you an additional rare pet HoM point Step 8: Buy an UNDEDICATED miniature from another player - If you have an old account, you may already have some of these through birthday presents - A one white miniature will run a few thousand gold (prices may rise between now and GW2 launch) - A purple miniature gives you no advantage over a white miniature - they count for the same in HoM - Having at least one gold miniature will give you an additional HoM point, but appear to run 30K-65K - Having at least one green miniature will give you a second additional HoM point, but appear to run 65K+ Step 9: Use your second Monumental Tapestry piece to unlock the Devotion section of your HoM - Add at least one miniature (see Step 8) - Unless you have a lot of gold or an old account, it is probably not worth going for 20 miniatures. - Remember it's probably better to sell unopened presents and buy minis as needed. [Optional] Step 10: Get someone to take you into the Underworld to tame the Black Widow spider - I have seen this run advertised for 25K-30K, but you may have to use trade chat to find someone to do this - The Black Widow will give the "rare pet" HoM point and unlock two statues in the Fellowship section - both the Black Widow statue and Animal Companion statue - To go into the Underworld, you character needs to be Ascended, Weh No Suh or past the "Hunted!" quest, and able to get to the Temple of Ages (Prophecies), Zin Ku Corridor (Factions) or Chantry of Secrets (Nightfall) - You will probably be at 20-40 hours of total play time by the time you are ready to do this run - Prophecies characters can transfer over to Cantha (Factions) and become Weh No Suh much faster than completing Ascension in Prophecies - To capture the Black Widow spider, you must be L16 and have the Charm Pet skill equipped WITH NO PET CURRENTLY TAMED - You can turn in your current pet at the Zaishen Menagerie and get it back later with all or most of its progress intact [Optional] Step 11: Go back and finish a chapter of GW with you main character, as time permits - Finishing a chapter will allow you to dedicate a title in HoM and net you an additional HoM point (in the Honor section, which does not require a Monumental Tapestry piece to unlock). - You can probably finish a chapter after 40-70 hours of total playtime (inclusive of time spent on prior steps) DevilStick fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Aug 13, 2012 |
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If they have the Trilogy and Eye of the North, http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=details&details=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA&todo=BAAAAAAAAQCAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAA is probably the easiest way to get 10 points with very little money spent. Beat Factions with a Ritualist/Ranger. Tame an Imperial Phoenix in the last mission. Dedicate M.O.X. Buy a cheap year one white mini. Get a Factions elite armor. Done.
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Mordiceius posted:I should get about 50 ecto for selling the presents. And then there is whatever money I get from the war in kryta. How much should that cover? If I were you I would try to get cash or zkeys. Ecto prices are falling and it seems like everyone is trying to dump them.
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There was a pretty cool guide to getting 30/50 somewhere in this thread, but I lost the link and it's not in the OP. Does anyone have it? Also, RE: War in Kryta. The Wiki says there's two ways to do it, a Quest-based version and a "do it yourself" version. Are they both good for getting the same rewards? vvv there's a link to A HoM guide, but not the one that was in this thread geri_khan fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Aug 13, 2012 |
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Aug 13, 2012 17:53
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Whoever Arsalan Red is on here, I've got some of your ink ready. Is Teagone around? There should probably be a link to the HoM guide in the OP or second post to simplify things for the last-minute players.
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So I haven't played GW in 5 years, but bought EotN after I quit - I dedicated random stuff I had on my account and ended up with this: http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=main&details=gEAAAAAAAASEAAAAAgCAAAAAAAAAAAAASKEAQAAAAAA Apparently I sold or gave away all of my gold & rare mats, so I have all of 5 plat to my name right now. A bunch of my characters are also missing chest pieces, so I'm guessing I or a friend salvaged all the Sup. Vigors out. Of the prestige armors, my Warrior is short an Eite Kurzick chest piece, and my Ele is short an Elite Sunspear chest piece. On the other hand, I have a bunch of minis - unfortunately I dedicated most, but I still have 12 duplicates that are undedicated, including 2 golds & 2 purples. I also found a few Everlasting Tonics that I have no idea how I got and 125 Tournament Tokens - can these be sold at all? I think I kept capping on Balth faction, and ended up spending it on these. What are my best options as far as making up some quick points, say 25-30? How much of a time commitment can I expect? edit: I have a 20 of every primary class except Assassin & Dervish, and virtually everything unlocked for PvP. edit edit: It looks like I still have 1x 2nd, 2x 3rd & 2x 4th, 1x 6th birthday presents that I missed the first go-around. Hauki fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Aug 13, 2012 |
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Aug 13, 2012 18:05
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geri_khan posted:There was a pretty cool guide to getting 30/50 somewhere in this thread, but I lost the link and it's not in the OP. Does anyone have it? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3389189&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=118#post404933868
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Awesome! posted:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3389189&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=118#post404933868 That's it! Thank you.
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So it takes only 1 cloth of the brotherhood to dedicate an EOTN hero right? So if I buy 7 cloth (which runs about 35k) and add in MOX, I could have 8 heroes dedicated?
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Mordiceius posted:So it takes only 1 cloth of the brotherhood to dedicate an EOTN hero right? So if I buy 7 cloth (which runs about 35k) and add in MOX, I could have 8 heroes dedicated? Correct.
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geri_khan posted:That's it! Thank you. One thing I would suggest is to pvp for hero skills earlier rather than later. The difference between a fully set up team and one using starter skills is massive. I think the end of nightfall would have been way more annoying if I was using henchmen or crappy heroes. As it was I rolled through gate of madness and abaddon with no issues at all. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3389189&pagenumber=128&perpage=40#post406032159 This build worked great until I unlocked enough for 7hps.
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Don't buy the platinum edition. It's awful for getting points. Call your local gamestop and ask for the complete edition. Its all 4 games for 30 total.grrarg posted:If they have the Trilogy and Eye of the North, http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=details&details=AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA&todo=BAAAAAAAAQCAAAAAAABAAAAAAAAAAAAABAAAA is probably the easiest way to get 10 points with very little money spent. You can get twice the points for half the price by buying 3 cloths rather than the Canthan armor. Seppuku fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Aug 13, 2012 |
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DevilStick posted:[Optional] Step 10: Get someone to take you into the Underworld to tame the Black Widow spider If you have 7HPS, save your money and do this yourself. Use an ST Rit hero in place of the SoGM Rit hero and you can literally do it one handed because its that easy. Its just as easy in hard mode too. Remember to change to /Ranger secondary. Also if you have a pet, you should turn it in to a Pet Tamer before you go into the Underworld, otherwise you cant cap your Black Widow and you will have to do the whole thing again. Underworld quests spawn a whole bunch of bullshit so there is only one rule if you don't want to gently caress this up. Do not take any quests except for: 1) Clear the Chamber. You get this from the lost soul at the start. Do not start this quest until you run around and kill all the bulls in the starting area. This quest is easy. 2) Restoring the Monuments of Grenth. You get this from the Labyrinth Shrine which is north of the starting area. Do not take any of the other quests like Unwanted Guests the reaper offers because they spawn alot of bullshit, like bulls which are invulnerable until you kill their escorts. The only reason you take Monuments of Grenth is because it opens up all the shrines branching off the Labyrinth. 3) Wrathful Spirits. You get this from the Reaper of the Vale and upon completion you can capture your Black Widow Spider. Before you accept the quest, remember to clear away all of the coldfire nights behind the shrine. This quest is easy.
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Note that you could also change a hero's secondary to Ranger and have them bring charm pet.
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Seppuku posted:You can get twice the points for half the price by buying 3 cloths rather than the Canthan armor. Agreed - that's where I am coming from on my quick and dirty guide. And it's only intended to get the low hanging fruit between now and GW2 launch. For folks that are in it for the long haul, and willing to play past GW2 launch, the much referenced 30 point guide (see above on this page) is the way to go.
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WanderingKid posted:If you have 7HPS, save your money and do this yourself. Agreed - or get a friend to run you. I'm assuming newbies won't have a lot of time to set up 7HPS quickly though.
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The worst thing about War in Kryta is how you're capped at parties of 6.
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So what are the best two to drop from 7hps for it then? Guessing smiter and... AoL necro?
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I don't mind doing UW runs for spiders with people, it takes 20 minutes when you know what you're doing. You can pay if you want but if you're going for HoM idm if it's a freebie IGN Dendra The Mighty
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Mordiceius posted:The worst thing about War in Kryta is how you're capped at parties of 6. Only for some of it - you can start some quests at the Temple of the Ages with an 8 man party.
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War in Kryta was a tremendous pain in the rear end towards the end but I finally finished it after sitting down and reading up some strats for the temple portion. After that mission it was a piece of cake. I'm chugging along on my HoM, got up to 18 points and I'm not sure how much more I'm gonna do.
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Word of advice on buying minis: go to the eotn outpost. Kamadan sucks comparatively. I was actually pretty surprised how easy it was to get whites from the first few years. I was getting 1st years for 3k, 2nds for 6k and 3rd for 10k.
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Awesome! posted:So what are the best two to drop from 7hps for it then? Guessing smiter and... AoL necro? Never drop the MM necro if you can help it, minions are too good. I generally drop the smite monk and then the illusion mesmer - ineptitude is really good, but not as good as panic.
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I would build this for that mission. Set yourself up as a damage dealer, I personally like my fruity SoS build but anything works. Then: http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:N/Rt_SoLS_Healer With Xinrae's Weapon and strip enchantment. http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:N/any_Minion_Bomber With the curses support option. I have never found necro/prots to be useful. http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Rt/any_Soul_Twisting_Hero With mesmer secondary for extra energy gain. http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Mo/Me_UA_Healer_Hero With cure hex http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Me/any_Panic_Hero With cry of frustration, shatter hex and leech signet And just fyi the code for my build is: OACjAOiMJTDgXTlT+gdiVTQTylA
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For War in Kryta I basically dropped one ritualist and one mesmer from the 7 hps build. It worked out just fine for me but I'm sure there's a more optimal build.Dendra posted:I don't mind doing UW runs for spiders with people, it takes 20 minutes when you know what you're doing. You can pay if you want but if you're going for HoM idm if it's a freebie Are you ever on during the morning or early afternoon hours during the week? It would be pretty cool if I could get a run for the black widow for my rare pet point. I've tried underworld but I had no clue where I was going.
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ruffz posted:War in Kryta was a tremendous pain in the rear end towards the end but I finally finished it after sitting down and reading up some strats for the temple portion. Ugh. Yeah that Temple is what I'm on now. After 5 failed runs, I think I want to kill myself.
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Mordiceius posted:Ugh. Yeah that Temple is what I'm on now. After 5 failed runs, I think I want to kill myself. My second to last attempt I wiped with the boss having like 5% health left because I tried to burn him down instead of killing the adds, and got wiped out as he healed himself back up to around 50%. Then when I came back immediately after that, I think he bugged out or something, since he didn't spawn any adds at all.
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How long is factions relative to nightfall?
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Awesome! posted:How long is factions relative to nightfall?
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ruffz posted:For War in Kryta I basically dropped one ritualist and one mesmer from the 7 hps build. It worked out just fine for me but I'm sure there's a more optimal build. I live in GMT+10 (Australia), what timezone are you? I can do my morning tomorrow though, or today in about 6 hours time from this post
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Well, I decided to just work on getting to 30 and not really worry about anything else. If there's time, then sure. I just need a Destroyer and Oppressor and that's the three points I need. I wish we could just trade for the drat metals. Also, I wish diamonds were cheaper. 
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ruffz posted:Then when I came back immediately after that, I think he bugged out or something, since he didn't spawn any adds at all. Not a bug. There's a limited amount of patrols and reinforcements he gets. Mordiceius posted:Ugh. Yeah that Temple is what I'm on now. After 5 failed runs, I think I want to kill myself. For me it was the most frustrating mission in the whole game. On my first run through I think I wiped twice as much as you, but if you need help with it pm me.
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Dendra posted:I live in GMT+10 (Australia), what timezone are you? Pacific, which is -8. I usually start my playtime for the day about 12 hours from the time of this post and that extends out until my wife gets home about 8 hours later.
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I'm at 32 so I've decided to just go until I'm broke, which I think should get me to right about 40, plus maybe a bit of farming for a couple more z-keys. As such, I'm looking to buy 6 diamonds, 15 rubies, and 16 sapphires. Here's my HoM, for reference: http://hom.guildwars2.com/en/#page=details&details=oYEAA8%2F%2F%2F%2FDAgQEAIoPAAAAAAAEAAAAAoQEIQAAAAAA Also, I'm trading my ectos for z-keys at 1:1 which is a totally great deal that none of you need to think about just go ahead and do it no don't bother looking at the way the market is going Zenzirouj fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Aug 14, 2012 |
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ruffz posted:Pacific, which is -8. I usually start my playtime for the day about 12 hours from the time of this post and that extends out until my wife gets home about 8 hours later. We can probably work something out then, towards the end of the 8 hour time you have. Message me ingame if we're on, or PM me here
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I can't seem to see anything on my hall of monuments web page other than the account link thing, is there something specific I need to do in order to update it?
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Wow, this drought dude in the Master of Whispers mission is kicking my rear end. I probably need to go and farm for yet some more hero skills, specifically for a monk 
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ukrainius maximus posted:Wow, this drought dude in the Master of Whispers mission is kicking my rear end. I probably need to go and farm for yet some more hero skills, specifically for a monk Get the Ranger skill Winter and you should have no problems. It can be purchased in Lion's Arch.
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