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Amused to Death
Aug 10, 2009

google "The Night Witches", and prepare for :stare:
Celebrations in Benghazi after the fall of Tripoli. I do believe however they mixed up the Russian flag for the French flag.

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Beaver Patrol
Sep 25, 2005

Orange_Lazarus posted:

Yeah but why a dog/furry animal? That's the part I never got about it.

Edit: OH NOW I GET THE JOKE! The dog is Grits!



Carter's dog... Even he wanted him out of the whitehouse.

:stare:

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
^Yeah I changed my mind, it's a donkey.



I think he really enjoys drawing people melt.

Sir John Falstaff
Apr 13, 2010

Orange_Lazarus posted:

I never really got this cartoon. I get that they're leaving Carter out with the garbage but who's the dog/giant furry animal?

Maybe it's a rabbit?







http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidency_of_Jimmy_Carter#Rabbit_incident
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/950/what-was-the-deal-with-jimmy-carter-and-the-killer-rabbit
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/21/jimmy-carter-explains-rabbit-attack/

Sir John Falstaff fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Aug 23, 2012

Sephiroth_IRA
Mar 31, 2010
Now I want to see killer rabbits doctored in the background of presidential photographs.



Hank: Man wore a... sweater.

Also my favorite KOTH quote from "Get your Freak Off"

JEN: (To Mr.Bronsen) Chaperoning? Nice job, Ronald Reagan.
MR. BRONSEN: Hey, don't call me that.
HANK: Yeah, don't call him that.

Sephiroth_IRA fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Aug 23, 2012

Deceitful Penguin
Feb 16, 2011

AGirlWonder posted:

Oh, just kidding. So they're dummies?

Here's another article on the lynching.





That's what I get in the middle of that article. I'm an atheist born pagan you fuckers, shouldn't you know everything about me yet google? And why the gently caress have that thing there anyway? Godsdamn.

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?

SSJ2 Goku Wilders
Mar 24, 2010

Dilkington posted:

I don't agree that we should start totting up peoples contributions to The Net Good, but I think it's a fair objection.

As I mature as a person, more and more I'm trying to expunge from myself this lovely modernist need to ascribe motivations to broad classes of people. I despise violence- "man's inhumanity to man" etc. and history is full of it, but I can't in good faith, by way of some moral calculus, sweep away the complex and disparate circumstances which drive human beings to act a certain way, and would likely cause me to act that way too.



At one time I thought I could pass judgment one way or the other as to whether Lenin was right to have the Romanovs killed. What a momentous time! Just think about the gravity of Lenin's decision, and how tawdry my moral valuation is in comparison. I continue to hate mindless brutality, but I don't any longer pretend my characterization of historical actors is anything more than emotive, and totally inadequate.



Although I'm sympathetic to the t-paine view of the military, and somewhat agree with it, I have never been able to fully commit to it, because it is intrinsically liberal in its premises. By this I mean the following: we can analyze society from the perspective of structures and institutions and see their effect on human 'wills', responsibilities, culpabilities and behaviors and the like. There is mountains-worth of evidence to point to the rational actor as being a fictional entity. Every humane criminal-legal system has precautions built in that leave space for judgments of the factors that led to the crime and are out of the perpetrator's control, rather than just prescribing the judge a task of automaton-like calculus, comparing the subject's objective actions and the legal order.

Yet we make an exception for American soldiers in this regard. They're some of the few people in this view that are actually being held to the idiotic doctrine of 'Personal Responsibility' and 'should've made better choices in life'. I won't deny that military demographics are sickening, that soldiers might have other choices to make and that in essence they're trading lives for their own education and whatnot. The Nuremberg defense being brought up earlier in the thread is also hilarious. But I'm not convinced that all this is enough of a reason to regard soldiers as 'superior to society' as Marx would say. I'm also not convinced of the humanist/modernist approach that we take towards culpability of this sort nor of its efficacy in finding a just solution to issues like this. This is part of the reason why I think feminism needs to stop framing its struggle in this same lovely and inconsistent framework. Too bad we don't seem to have anything else.

Stolen from ekuNNN in the Dutch thread:



"If Roemer (Socialist Party leader, second/first party in the polls) wins, we're moving to Switzerland"

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

SSJ2 Goku Wilders posted:



Stolen from ekuNNN in the Dutch thread:



"If Roemer (Socialist Party leader, second/first party in the polls) wins, we're moving to Switzerland"

Haha, the best part of statements like that is they never follow up and keep their promise.

I would pay to see this movie. More FEMEN fanart.

:nws:http://i.imgur.com/XS9fE.jpg:nws:

Dilkington
Aug 6, 2010

"Al mio amore Dilkington, Gennaro"

JoelJoel posted:

Got the story behind that image? I have to assume it's Libya, as Wind Mobile is a Canadian cell company that began operating 2-3 years ago. I know British and American Libyans fought in the civil war, but wasn't aware of any Canadians that did so.


He's a Libyan rebel- he's wearing a A.S.Roma kit- Wind is their sponsor.

Trivia
Feb 8, 2006

I'm an obtuse man,
so I'll try to be oblique.

Quite the impressive spine!



Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat
Chris Ware's rejected Fortune cover.

az jan jananam
Sep 6, 2011
HI, I'M HARDCORE SAX HERE TO DROP A NICE JUICY TURD OF A POST FROM UP ON HIGH
http://www.wildriverreview.com/PHOTO-ESSAY/TALIBAN/DALE-COTTON/FEB-2010

In 2001, while following the Northern Alliance into the former Taliban stronghold of Kandahar, Magnum photographer Thomas Dworzak spotted some fascinating pictures in passport photographers’ windows.

Afghani men in robes and turbans with coal-black eyeliner were posed to look like silent film stars or held flowers and guns against the seeming backdrop of their choice, a Swiss village complete with chalet. To Dworzak the images were ironic, even surreal, given the strict guidelines of Taliban dogma.




nerdz
Oct 12, 2004


Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.
Grimey Drawer
Brazillian students protesting a new law granting 50% of university slots to poor citizens by wearing a half blackface:

Fluoride Jones
Aug 24, 2009

toot toot

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Trivia posted:

Quite the impressive spine!





That style of art seems to work by the rule that women have the spine of a cat.

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7c Nickel
Apr 27, 2008

Highspeeddub posted:

That style of art seems to work by the rule that women have the spine of a cat.



If you like laughing at horribly mangled attempts at female anatomy you might like the Escher Girls Blog. That's picture is probably the most common variation known as the "Boobs and butt" pose.



Even if you're stopping a terrorist missile, make sure everyone can see your tits and rear end at the same time.

Trench_Rat
Sep 19, 2006
Doing my duty for king and coutry since 86


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Siffleet

Rooney McNibnug
Sep 2, 2008

"Life always hopes. When a definite object cannot be outlined, the indomitable spirit of hope still impels the living mass to move toward something--something that shall somehow be better."


http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/us/14explorers.html?_r=3&hp

Fluoride Jones
Aug 24, 2009

toot toot

quote:

In a simulation here of a raid on a marijuana field, several Explorers were instructed on how to quiet an obstreperous lookout.

“Put him on his face and put a knee in his back,” a Border Patrol agent explained. “I guarantee that he’ll shut up.”
:stare:

"Any kid can conquer Libya, just give him a fighter plane."

Fluoride Jones fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Aug 23, 2012

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010


Here's to hoping that's a photoshop.

e: oh, it's just an art installation, that's much less objectionable. Article with more detail here.



(Not a photoshop)

Broken Machine fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Aug 23, 2012

Xandu
Feb 19, 2006


It's hard to be humble when you're as great as I am.
Veteran Clothing™

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
So, we all remember these ads:


The San Francisco Municipal Transportation Agency put up its own ads, with arrows pointing to those ads:

ekuNNN fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Aug 23, 2012

Mans
Sep 14, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Armies are pretty cool when they're defending your people from foreign imperialists. The people should have enough power over their government to forbid it from waging ridiculous wars.

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

Mans posted:

Armies are pretty cool when they're defending your people from foreign imperialists. The people should have enough power over their government to forbid it from waging ridiculous wars.



To me, that's the most frightening thing about the US. If we do turn into a fascist dictatorship, or christian theocracy, the military is so powerful that any attempt at revolting against the government would either be doomed to failure, or would cost countless lives. It almost doesn't matter what we do, because no one else has the power to stop us, even collectively. It's a scary prospect. On the other hand, it looks as though our focus on military power is going to bring about our own demise.



Just look at all that freedom.

Broken Machine fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Aug 23, 2012

Captain Scandinaiva
Mar 29, 2010



Mans posted:

Armies are pretty cool when they're defending your people from foreign imperialists. The people should have enough power over their government to forbid it from waging ridiculous wars.

Yeah, unless they achieve their goals and start using the very same violence to oppress people. Governments can be overthrown but "The Government", regardless who that is, is per definition always going to have the upper hand when it comes to violence.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS






Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

Broken Machine posted:

To me, that's the most frightening thing about the US. If we do turn into a fascist dictatorship, or christian theocracy, the military is so powerful that any attempt at revolting against the government would either be doomed to failure, or would cost countless lives. It almost doesn't matter what we do, because no one else has the power to stop us, even collectively. It's a scary prospect. On the other hand, it looks as though our focus on military power is going to bring about our own demise.



Just look at all that freedom.

Are you kidding me? There is no possible way the US could put down a modern peoples revolution if one ever actually got rolling around. I mean there is a 1-1 firearm to citizen ratio just for starters. Imagine Vietnam but with millions more fighters, a foothold in every major city, and instead of being "other" Charlie looks exactly like the kids you grew up and speaks the same language.

LP97S
Apr 25, 2008

Miltank posted:

Are you kidding me? There is no possible way the US could put down a modern peoples revolution if one ever actually got rolling around. I mean there is a 1-1 firearm to citizen ratio just for starters. Imagine Vietnam but with millions more fighters, a foothold in every major city, and instead of being "other" Charlie looks exactly like the kids you grew up and speaks the same language.

How many Americans do you think will fight with "dirty, communist, un-American and un-Christian insurgents"? The gun ownership number is inflated because few Americans own many guns and many of them refuse to fight for anything that would be a change in the status quo, hell look how many claim to want to fight now because of the "Socialist Regime" coming from the loving neoliberal president.





It would be a slaughter and there would be plenty of Pro-Government militia and paramilitary groups to enforce the law and terrorize any "subversive" elements just like in plenty of repressive regimes.

Fluoride Jones
Aug 24, 2009

toot toot

Broken Machine posted:

To me, that's the most frightening thing about the US. If we do turn into a fascist dictatorship, or christian theocracy, the military is so powerful that any attempt at revolting against the government would either be doomed to failure, or would cost countless lives. It almost doesn't matter what we do, because no one else has the power to stop us, even collectively. It's a scary prospect. On the other hand, it looks as though our focus on military power is going to bring about our own demise.



Just look at all that freedom.

Honestly, I think the best dystopia scenario would be like in Alpha Centauri where the hardcore conservatives of America secede from the Union. ITT: Apocalyptic Fantasy Chat 2012



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwqN3Ur-wP0

Broken Machine
Oct 22, 2010

Miltank posted:

Are you kidding me? There is no possible way the US could put down a modern peoples revolution if one ever actually got rolling around. I mean there is a 1-1 firearm to citizen ratio just for starters. Imagine Vietnam but with millions more fighters, a foothold in every major city, and instead of being "other" Charlie looks exactly like the kids you grew up and speaks the same language.



It's easy to say that sure, Americans would stand up against a fascist regime. But history tells a different tale - people in general follow the herd. The country would gradually shift, and so would the public perception. It'd be like the proverbial frog in a pot as the water gradually heats up.

Keep in mind that more Americans look like this:



Than this:



(actually New Zealanders in that pic, but regardless)

I mean it's great that we have guns and everything, but so does the military, and they have an awful lot more training. And they also have a lot more bombs, heavy weapons and equipment.

It's not impossible to conceive of it happening, but as I said even if it were successful the body count would be tremendous.

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW

LP97S posted:

How many Americans do you think will fight with "dirty, communist, un-American and un-Christian insurgents"? The gun ownership number is inflated because few Americans own many guns and many of them refuse to fight for anything that would be a change in the status quo, hell look how many claim to want to fight now because of the "Socialist Regime" coming from the loving neoliberal president.





It would be a slaughter and there would be plenty of Pro-Government militia and paramilitary groups to enforce the law and terrorize any "subversive" elements just like in plenty of repressive regimes.

The level of gun ownership IS inflated but about half of all homes in the US have a firearm gun laws are extremely likely to become any more strict as Any action taken by the government to curb the sale of guns is viewed as an attack by the right wing Militia types may be right wing, but they certainly have no love for the government, and would be likely to take up arms if there were any real legislation against firearms especially if the federal government seemed especially week . Although leftists and fascists are unlikely to work together there is a very strong likelihood for both factions revolting at almost the same time with fascists in the country and Communists in the cities

Its also important to note that the army wouldn't be able to just drop bombs in major cities without a major blow to civilian moral- an airforce jet carpet bombing Atlanta or whatever could be a net win for revolutionaries from a propaganda perspective.



Edit: Obviously anything anyone says about this is just speculative wank but I think it is kind of a fun thought experiment.

Miltank fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Aug 23, 2012

diphenhydramine
Jun 26, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post




quote:

The next morning he detailed a squad to count the dead. To make no mistake in the number, they snipped off the nose of each dead Indian as soon as they had counted the body. This practical operation constituted by no means the most barbaric atrocity inflicted upon the bodies, and the greatest responsibility was held by white men rather than by the Indians, who merely scalped the dead. The whites did a brisk business in flaying corpses to make belts, and some committed outrages to secure hide for bridle reins, which, according to an eyewitness, was accomplished in the following manner: "They began at the lower part of the leg, near the heel, and with a knife made two parallel incisions through the skin, about three inches or more apart, running these incisions up the leg and along the side of the back to the shoulder blade and thence across to the other shoulder, and from there down the other side of the back and down the other leg to the heel. The strip between the incisions was then skinned out, and the soldier had a long strap of human skin, which he used as a bridle rein. So in the Creek War all the barbarity was not committed on the Indian side." Meanwhile the work of the squad detailed to count bodies resulted in Jackson's report that, out of 1000 Red Stick warriors, 557 lay dead in the ruins of Tohopeka. Coffee estimated that his men had killed 350 more in the water, leaving only 100 who could have escaped, many of them direly wounded.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

Fluoride Jones posted:

Honestly, I think the best dystopia scenario would be like in Alpha Centauri where the hardcore conservatives of America secede from the Union. ITT: Apocalyptic Fantasy Chat 2012

It'll be the Christian machines! Christnet.. Unless it goes down like this:

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

JoelJoel posted:

It'll be the Christian machines! Christnet.. Unless it goes down like this:



This happens to me all the time. I'll like think of a word and be like "this word doesn't make sense!"

Gazpacho
Jun 18, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Slippery Tilde

Broken Machine posted:



(Not a photoshop)

Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Aug 24, 2012

Delzuma
Dec 4, 2004


I like Obama and I think this picture is awesome.

To contribute here's my Father in Law shaking hands with then General "Tiger" Song Yo Chan in March of 1960.


vvvvv Sup SASSMAS buddy! :hfive: vvvvvv

Delzuma fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Aug 24, 2012

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

nerdz posted:

Brazillian students protesting a new law granting 50% of university slots to poor citizens by wearing a half blackface:



Is that really blackface-blackface? It just looks like half of their faces have been painted black.

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Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.

Exclamation Marx posted:

Is that really blackface-blackface? It just looks like half of their faces have been painted black.

That's presumably to reflect the 50% quota set by the law they're protesting. Given that it's in Brazil and most of the people who'd go to university thanks to that law are black it seems that it's really blackface, yes.

It's heinous regardless of whether it's about race or class, really.



The future Earth-Moon economy:

"Proponents of private space colonization dream of building the commercial infrastructure which tourists and industrialists would use."

Kassad fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Aug 24, 2012

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