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Doing the White glove quest right now.  . What the gently caress is this poo poo, my god. That came outta left fuckin' field.
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I've always played the Elder Scrolls game using melee characters but stuck with guns for the Bethesda Fallout games. I'm on a melee run now for the first time and the combat is a lot of fun, especially with the knockdown perk and the rebar clubs which you can get maybe a dozen from the Nightkin in REPCONN.
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Aug 24, 2012 01:07
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Inudeku posted:Doing the White glove quest right now. Did you talk to anyone in New Vegas before you got into the Ultra Luxe or did you just sprint straight there.
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Aug 24, 2012 01:16
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To get it out the way, this was made by Obsidian not Bethesda 
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Aug 24, 2012 01:16
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This might be a little out of place, but Obsidian's "Knights of the Old Republic II" is out on Steam now. It was rushed out by LucasArts months early because they decided they wanted a Christmas release, and as a result the game was very definitely unfinished and suffers badly in the ending because of it. Despite this, what IS in the game is absolutely incredible storytelling, and there are a number of mods that seek to restore cut content that was on the disc but never able to be implemented. If you enjoy the writing in New Vegas, there's a good chance you'll enjoy KOTORII. If you really liked Ravel from Planescape: Torment, then you'll probably REALLY enjoy KOTORII too!
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Aug 24, 2012 01:27
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That's a lot of words to say "Try one of the greatest ever RPGs (despite it not being finished)" 
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Aug 24, 2012 01:42
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Would I benefit in any way by playing the first KOTOR or can I get by skipping it?
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Aug 24, 2012 02:18
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Is there any way to console myself out of Old World Blues? I realized that I really just want to wrap up the story in the main game about 5 minutes after starting OWB.
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Aug 24, 2012 02:18
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Stuntman posted:Is there any way to console myself out of Old World Blues? I realized that I really just want to wrap up the story in the main game about 5 minutes after starting OWB. coc moves you to a different cell. Pick one from a list really. most of the town names work I believe so something like COC NOVAC should work.
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Aug 24, 2012 02:21
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Upmarket Mango posted:Would I benefit in any way by playing the first KOTOR or can I get by skipping it? The first KOTOR is a pretty excellent (if somewhat plot-generic) game in its own right. It's a bit dated now (almost ten years old), but the characterization is still pretty fantastic. And I guess this is probably pretty obvious to say, but it's a far better prequel than the actual prequels ever were. Stuntman posted:Is there any way to console myself out of Old World Blues? I realized that I really just want to wrap up the story in the main game about 5 minutes after starting OWB. Assuming you have all four major expansions, I'd recommend at least doing Honest Hearts and Lonesome Road, because they both add a bit to the Legion side of things. OWB, as much as I like it, is atonal to the rest of the game. Asbury fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Aug 24, 2012 |
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Aug 24, 2012 03:46
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Upmarket Mango posted:Would I benefit in any way by playing the first KOTOR or can I get by skipping it? There's some things (and people) from the first that show up in the sequel, but nothing really critical. It will give away the big twist that shows up about 3/4 of the way through the first game, though.
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Aug 24, 2012 03:56
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Jerusalem posted:This might be a little out of place, but Obsidian's "Knights of the Old Republic II" is out on Steam now. It was rushed out by LucasArts months early because they decided they wanted a Christmas release, and as a result the game was very definitely unfinished and suffers badly in the ending because of it. Seconding this. This game runs like complete poo poo on my xbox 360 and I've still completed it at least six times. The companions, with the exception of the loving disciple, are all as well-written as the NV characters, there's plenty of gray to be found and it successfully tears apart a lot of the dumb poo poo of star wars.
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Aug 24, 2012 04:05
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I find it impossible to do an unarmed/melee run; it just goes against my playstyle completely, which tends very strongly towards sniping and at its closest is me sneaking around, still with a gun. I think I do need to build an energy weapons character, though, since I seldom use them and they can still work with the whole 'pew pew' thing.
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Aug 24, 2012 06:52
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I would too, just because every time I make it up to the Silver Rush, I wish I could actually make use of their incredible stockpile.
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Aug 24, 2012 07:01
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Sloth Socks posted:This is a bit of a random question, but some months ago, I remember reading a remarkable blog post/essay about the narrative of New Vegas. It focused on how the game was remarkable because it wasn't your story - it was the story of Caesar, of the NCR, of every side character, of everyone except you. And the coolest thing about this essay was that at one point, the text faded into white, then picked up again, like a visual essay of some kind. http://killscreendaily.com/articles/reviews/fallout_new_vegas_dlc/ I feel like I nerfed myself by following a random GameFaqs character creation guide; my Agility and Perception are low, but so far the biggest problem I've encountered is a Deathclaw I've run away from. I think it's weird when ED-E gets those signature kills with mini-cutscenes; for a second I think I die. I'm heading to Novac now; anything I should see along the way?
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Aug 24, 2012 07:19
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Not really. The stretch of road going to Novac is surprisingly empty. Although you can go north from the road a bit to see Hidden Valley and the Brotherhood.
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Aug 24, 2012 07:33
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Goddamn.
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Aug 24, 2012 07:34
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DeathChicken posted:Not really. The stretch of road going to Novac is surprisingly empty. Although you can go north from the road a bit to see Hidden Valley and the Brotherhood. I want to meet The Kings, since the radio broadcast about them is hilarious (and my dude already has a pompadour). I'm guessing I can't ally myself with them and take over the wasteland in the name of Elvis?
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Aug 24, 2012 07:46
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Pope Guilty posted:
The single comment on that review sums it up pretty drat nicely, really. Justin Hicks' Comment posted:Holy poo poo.
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Aug 24, 2012 07:47
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The Kings are all the way north, just outside of Vegas. You won't be meeting them for awhile.
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Aug 24, 2012 07:49
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This is, no poo poo, one of the worst things I've ever read.
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Aug 24, 2012 08:03
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Rape Jake. posted:This is, no poo poo, one of the worst things I've ever read. Is this going to turn into a repeat of my Games Journalism thread where any article longer than 'Gameplay good 10, Graphics bad 8' gets called out for being 'pretentious'? This is where I stopped, for fear of spoilers: quote:When you find his body, his gun becomes your gun. His life I had so many of these moments in Fallout 3, and I think that's part of the attraction of these games - you're wandering through a world that's moved on, bearing witness and making use of the refuse. (Though I'm hoping New Vegas pumps up the mythic Americana/rock and roll/Western mythology that I eat up like a spoon.)
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Aug 24, 2012 08:07
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Count Chocula posted:Is this going to turn into a repeat of my Games Journalism thread where any article longer than 'Gameplay good 10, Graphics bad 8' gets called out for being 'pretentious'? That Article posted:You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. You. drat, this is some good poo poo. *smokes a pipe I pulled out of my cargo shorts while wearing a fedora* edit: just read the rest of your post where you cite Fallout 3 as a prime example of this. Laugh my arse off. Rape Jake. fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Aug 24, 2012 |
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Aug 24, 2012 08:11
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It really could have stood to be written without the really pretentious (because seriously, it is) and distracting repetition, which I did not need to understand the point of it, nor did I even attempt to read it. The actual bolded text of the opening is right on the money, but ugh, what a mess. e/ ^^^ I would say that, to at least some extent, FO3 does fall victim to exactly what he says other games do; though rather than stuff being created with no real backstory just so you benefit, it feels more like stuff being created with no real backstory just because someone at Bethesda said, "wouldn't it be crazy if...". ^^^ rossmum fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Aug 24, 2012 |
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Aug 24, 2012 09:21
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Akalies posted:From that Rock Paper Shotgun article on The Strip Open a page back: Game crashes constantly for me. Usually gets stuck on the loading screen every half hour to an hour.
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Aug 24, 2012 09:34
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HoboWithAShotgun posted:Game crashes constantly for me. Usually gets stuck on the loading screen every half hour to an hour. I can only assume that this is somehow based on hardware since I hear a lot of people say it, but my computer is almost 10 years old and it never crashes for me in the hundreds of hours I've put in.
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Aug 24, 2012 09:37
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The best way to get the Wild Card: Ace In The Hole quest is by sleeping with Benny as a female courier.
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Aug 24, 2012 09:43
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rossmum posted:It really could have stood to be written without the really pretentious (because seriously, it is) and distracting repetition, which I did not need to understand the point of it, nor did I even attempt to read it. The actual bolded text of the opening is right on the money, but ugh, what a mess. I dunno, I liked the unbolded text. It could've been done better, sure, but I think it serves its purpose pretty well (calling attention to the transition from everything being about you to it being a larger story). Maybe if they "You."s had faded to white instead of just stopping abruptly, or if there had been a bit more white space after they stopped. Obviously it's entirely subjective! Though I do think dismissing it as "pretentious" is kind of a non-response, since that word has become over-used to the point of meaningless. Also, regardless of how well anything in the article worked, I still love that Kill Screen goes for that kind of thing, you know? Kotaku or what have you would never try anything like that. Different approaches to games journalism can only be a good thing, in my opinion.
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Aug 24, 2012 09:54
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Repetition can be a really strong tool in writing, but honestly, that article overdid it so much it removed all meaning from it and left me feeling pretty irritated. Obviously this is subjective, but I would say it well and truly crossed the line between "making a point" and "trying to draw attention to how clever the writer thinks they are by using repetition of the word 'you' to make a point", which did not go down well with me.
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Aug 24, 2012 10:07
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I pretty quickly stopped paying any attention to the unbolded stuff as anything other than a background for the actual writing, and just skipped from bold section to bold section, so it didn't really bother me. I just saw the "you"s as framing, not as an actual part of the article.
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Aug 24, 2012 10:16
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DeathChicken posted:I would too, just because every time I make it up to the Silver Rush, I wish I could actually make use of their incredible stockpile. You can (mostly). Just pick up whatever you want with the z key, go through the unlocked door into another part of the building, and take the item while hidden. It doesn't even take away karma. And a question. I'm stuck in Caesar's camp until I do the quest to go in the bunker thing. I want to do Yes Man's quests, will this lock me out in any way?
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Aug 24, 2012 16:05
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Genocyber posted:You can (mostly). Just pick up whatever you want with the z key, go through the unlocked door into another part of the building, and take the item while hidden. It doesn't even take away karma. Absolutely nothing you do will ever lock you out of Yes Man's quest. In fact you should do what Caesar wants in order to get some great dialogue from Yes Man.
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Aug 24, 2012 16:10
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Hank Morgan posted:Absolutely nothing you do will ever lock you out of Yes Man's quest. In fact you should do what Caesar wants in order to get some great dialogue from Yes Man. However, if you do what Caesar tells you, you're locked out of House's quests. But if you ignore Caesar and do what House says, Caesar still thinks you did what he said.
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Aug 24, 2012 16:12
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I more meant that I never put points in energy weapons, so all the stuff there is useless to me except to sell it. I'm not sure if destroying the robots locks you out of Yes Man's stuff, since he wants you to activate them. But it does turn House hostile the next time you see him.
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Aug 24, 2012 16:15
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DeathChicken posted:I'm not sure if destroying the robots locks you out of Yes Man's stuff, since he wants you to activate them. The only thing that locks you out of Yes Man's quest line is initiating the final battle on someone else's side.
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Aug 24, 2012 16:19
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Oh my God Old World Blues, you're doing your best to keep me from enjoying you.  I decided to go exploring and dump extra stuff in Higgs Village for a while to keep myself busy while the Sink gained a new inventory (I had sold so much stuff it only had a few hundred caps left, and I wanted it to restock some more ammo.) But the gate to Higgs is, about 50% of the time, a crash, as is fast travel. Other cell transitions occasionally crash me as well. Everything else in the game is pretty much stable by now, except the Big Empty. And when I go in and out of Higgs, it seems as if the respawn time for generic enemies, which is something like a couple of days in the Mojave, has been shortened to about a half hour tops (exaggerating, but only a little) so I'm constantly gunning down Lobotomites and Y-17s whether I want to or not, and then my OCD basically causes me to max out my inventory at every location so I'm going back and forth and back and forth... ugh.
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Aug 24, 2012 19:17
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Teen Hero Greg posted:Oh my God Old World Blues, you're doing your best to keep me from enjoying you. Have you had enemies literally spawning right in front of you? I just started OWB and I had a tiny alpha male deathclaw literally spawn right in front of me as I walked in front of its 'dog-house'. The first time it happened, I was so surprised, I barely managed a few shot before it killed me in one hit. The next time, I was carefully sneaking up, only for it to spawn *again*, right in front of me. Lady Luck turned up in VATS though, so that stunned the thing, so I could run back to the fountain. Oh, and 3 security bots spawned in front of me, just as I was entering the Yangtze Camp. No warning, they just materialize out of thin air and start blasting. GG Obsidian 
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HoboWithAShotgun posted:Have you had enemies literally spawning right in front of you? I just started OWB and I had a tiny alpha male deathclaw literally spawn right in front of me as I walked in front of its 'dog-house'. The first time it happened, I was so surprised, I barely managed a few shot before it killed me in one hit. The next time, I was carefully sneaking up, only for it to spawn *again*, right in front of me. Lady Luck turned up in VATS though, so that stunned the thing, so I could run back to the fountain. Rumor has it that a certain Obsidian staff member didn't like the "Sneaky Sniper Guy" a lot of people build. The way enemies work in OWB clearly reflects this. In fact, it seems that there are approximately 9 "entities" that control most enemies in OWB. Ordinarily, once you kill something, it takes a specific amount of time for it to respawn. Until then (say, 72 in-game hours) the area is effectively cleared. Rather than being restricted to spawn like ordinary opponents, these entities basically follow you around. When you kill whatever they happen to be controlling at the moment--a Nightstalker, Lobotomite, Y-17 harness, whatever--the entities run off and create something else to pilot around and harass you with. You are literally fighting 9 immortal things, which almost always know where you are because they are programmed to spawn in your general vicinity, and when you kill them, they just go and become something else.  EDIT: I would recommend using Puce Moose's OWB plugins, since he addresses these terrible gameplay decisions.
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Aug 24, 2012 20:48
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Sounds like why I could never get into Left 4 Dead. If I clear out a room full of zombies, I want to consider that room cleared out, not cleared out until the AI decides I'm playing too well and cheats by teleporting in some more.
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Basically none of my major problems with Old World Blues described above would happen if the Sink restocked more frequently, though. I think it's four days out of the sink cell- in the main world I believe it's more like three, and in the main world you have other options.
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