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OK so I can get five UAC/20s onto a mech in SSW, using mixed tech. It even has four tons of ammo! OK it is slow and does not have much armor, but on the other hand, it has laser heat sinks in the legs.pre:
Melty MLT-1
Mass: 100 tons
Tech Base: Mixed
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: All Eras (non-canon)
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X
Production Year: 2750
Cost: 14,633,333 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,569
Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 200 Compact Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 21.6 km/h
Maximum Speed: 32.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Standard Armor
Armament:
5 (CL) Ultra AC/20s
Manufacturer: Unknown
Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown
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Equipment Type Rating Mass
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel 152 points 5.00
Internal Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT, 1 LA, 2 RA
Engine: Compact Fusion Engine 200 13.00
Walking MP: 2
Running MP: 3
Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks: (CL) Laser Heat Sink 10 0.00
Heat Sink Locations: 1 LL, 1 RL
Gyro: 0.00
Cockpit: Interface 4.00
Actuators: L: SH+UA R: SH+UA
Armor: Standard Armor AV - 224 14.00
CASE Locations: LT, RT 0.00
Internal Armor
Structure Factor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 31 34
Center Torso (rear) 9
L/R Torso 21 30
L/R Torso (rear) 8
L/R Arm 17 21
L/R Leg 21 27
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Equipment Location Heat Critical Mass
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(CL) Ultra AC/20 CT 7 8 12.00
(CL) Ultra AC/20 RT 7 8 12.00
(CL) Ultra AC/20 LT 7 8 12.00
(CL) Ultra AC/20 RA 7 8 12.00
(CL) Ultra AC/20 LA 7 8 12.00
@Ultra AC/20 (10) RT - 2 2.00
@Ultra AC/20 (10) LT - 2 2.00
Free Critical Slots: 2
BattleForce Statistics
MV S (+0) M (+2) L (+4) E (+6) Wt. Ov Armor: 7 Points: 26
2 5 5 0 0 4 4 Structure: 10
Special Abilities: CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
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Aug 24, 2012 05:25
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Leperflesh posted:Oh yeah and it has flippy arms! One shot with all weapons on Ultra Mode puts you straight to 'Automatic Ammo Explosion' on the expanded heat table.
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Aug 24, 2012 05:33
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PoptartsNinja posted:One shot with all weapons on Ultra Mode puts you straight to 'Automatic Ammo Explosion' on the expanded heat table. The ultimate in Fire-and-Forget tactics!
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Aug 24, 2012 05:38
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PoptartsNinja posted:One shot with all weapons on Ultra Mode puts you straight to 'Automatic Ammo Explosion' on the expanded heat table. Doing the "FIRE EVERYTHING (in ultra mode)" tactic without exploding works if there are only 2 tons of ammo left, since after you fire the guns there's no ammo left to explode.
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Aug 24, 2012 05:39
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landcollector posted:Doing the "FIRE EVERYTHING (in ultra mode)" tactic without exploding works if there are only 2 tons of ammo left, since after you fire the guns there's no ammo left to explode. Yeah this. Also, it uh, it's intended for use on icy outer planets with extremely low ambient temperatures. I like to think of its alpha-strikes as like a disco ball exploding. LASER HEAT SINKS. It shines like a miniature sun.
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Aug 24, 2012 05:44
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TildeATH posted:Man, somebody needs to do an OGRE LP. Arq told me to come in here. What kind of Ogre LP? The minis/board game or the computer game? I could do either:  Or http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/177585_472354219458643_1692034292_o.jpg (Linked for being huge.) I can cover either way. Or combine em for both. Get me hyped for the Ogre release this Winter. Kickstarted it like a BOSS. The thing is I am kind of about to LP Castlevania 2 and 3 in a comic format like that first picture, and or this fine game:  I've only completed those three games and taken a combined 1000+ screenshots. But if there is a demand for some Ogre I.. could be convinced.
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Aug 24, 2012 05:45
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Leperflesh posted:Yeah this. Also, it uh, it's intended for use on icy outer planets with extremely low ambient temperatures.
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Aug 24, 2012 05:51
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Leperflesh posted:Yeah this. Also, it uh, it's intended for use on icy outer planets with extremely low ambient temperatures. The lowest possible temperature you can get is something like the -6 from being in space. It wouldn't help. Besides, if you're going to do silly you may as well make: Titanic-Class Battleship Mass: 400 tons Tech Base: Clan Motive Type: Naval (Displacement) Era: Clan Invasion Cost: 23,357,000 C-Bills Battle Value: 5,575 Power Plant: 360 I.C.E. Cruise Speed: 10.8 km/h Flanking Speed: 21.6 km/h Armor: Standard Armor Armament: 10 Gauss Rifles (Turret), 20 tons of ammo 8 Streak SRM-2s (Front, Rear, Left, Right, 2x each), 8 tons of ammo 1 ECM Suite 1 Lifeboat (Maritime) 1 Unknown CASE 1 Unknown Targeting Computer Armor Factor Front: 346 Left/Right: 288/288 Turret: 288 Rear: 230 (Yes, boats can be good) PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Aug 24, 2012 |
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Aug 24, 2012 05:52
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CHI should be saved for this very thread, as some kind of Let's Read. I was going to LP it when I thought PTN was going on vacation, except I was going to change it to be part of PTN's universe. Captain Rufus posted:Arq told me to come in here. What kind of Ogre LP? The minis/board game or the computer game? I could do either: Do both. There can never be enough OGRE. I don't want to promote a derail, so I'll just leave it at that.
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Aug 24, 2012 06:11
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Why are you guys making poo poo up? DI Morgan (Gauss Variant) - 3 x Gauss Rifles mounted in the Turret, which is linked to Targeting Computer and C3 Slave. Vehicle uses downgraded to a 200 XL Fusion engine, and its armor reduced by two and half tons. BV (2.0) = 1,623[4]
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Aug 24, 2012 06:14
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raverrn posted:Why are you guys making poo poo up? Again, the Gausszilla. Annihilator with 5 Gauss Rifles. A completely terrible but awesome mech.
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Aug 24, 2012 06:16
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KnoxZone posted:Again, the Gausszilla. Annihilator with 5 Gauss Rifles. A completely terrible but awesome mech. I was going to ask how that would even work, but checking if I could build something like that resulted in something that either had at most 1 in movement or that had very sparse armor. Like you said, terrible but awesome. Though a 4 gauss does sound like a plausible design, if you stick some ER medium lasers, jumpjets and endo steel on it. Not that it wouldn't get absolutely murdered by most infighters or Savannah Masters.
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Aug 24, 2012 10:06
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evilmiera posted:I was going to ask how that would even work, but checking if I could build something like that resulted in something that either had at most 1 in movement or that had very sparse armor. Like you said, terrible but awesome. The ANH-C2 packs 4 Gauss Rifles and a Clan ER PPC. A very dangerous turret until it starts taking crits.
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Aug 24, 2012 12:26
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All you need to make a working 4 Ultra 20 mech is mixed tech, small cockpit, compact gyro and composite structure and all else clan, Heck if you stand still and shoot you only have to make one ammo exploding check!. Turn 1 fire neutral, turn 2 fire ultra, turn 3 fire ultra no more ammo to explode... GLORIOUS VICTORY ALL AMMO EXPENDED.
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Aug 24, 2012 13:33
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Superheavy hovercraft, 100 tons, 7/11, 3 Ultra AC/20s on the front, 6 tons of ammo, 13 tons ferrofibrous armor. Gives no fucks about no heat. Society variant: 4 iATM12, 9 tons ammo, 18 tons ff armor. dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Aug 24, 2012 |
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Aug 24, 2012 14:13
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PoptartsNinja posted:The lowest possible temperature you can get is something like the -6 from being in space. It wouldn't help. More like the Titanic armored tub. Naval warships can get up to 100k tons and feature multiple Long Tom batteries as armaments. Oh, and they can even have Mechs walking around on them as point defense, such as the Luftenburg Supercarrier. I believe it's 7 hexes long (which is still undersized, the Nimitz is 330 meters long, or 11 hexes).
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Aug 24, 2012 14:21
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Taerkar posted:More like the Titanic armored tub. You'd think they'd give it a fusion power plant or something
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Aug 24, 2012 14:28
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Taerkar posted:Naval warships can get up to 100k tons and feature multiple Long Tom batteries as armaments. Oh, and they can even have Mechs walking around on them as point defense, such as the Luftenburg Supercarrier. Why not just mount a NAC/40 on it?
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Aug 24, 2012 17:12
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Now I'm waiting for a mission including at least one battleship / super carrier and those gaus / AC20 equipped monster mechs (preferable with a bunch of "sensible" heavies and mediums running around getting wrecked). Make it happen PoptartsNinja  ...two battleships loaded with mechs in a BOARDING ACTION at high sea in stormy conditions 
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Aug 24, 2012 17:34
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PoptartsNinja posted:The lowest possible temperature you can get is something like the -6 from being in space. It wouldn't help. Why does being in space make heatsinks more effective 
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Aug 24, 2012 17:43
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Magic.
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Aug 24, 2012 17:49
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^^^^ :battletech: Pimpmust posted:Now I'm waiting for a mission including at least one battleship / super carrier and those gaus / AC20 equipped monster mechs (preferable with a bunch of "sensible" heavies and mediums running around getting wrecked). Make it happen PoptartsNinja thing ever, despite the j-pop.
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Aug 24, 2012 17:51
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b0lt posted:Why does being in space make heatsinks more effective *mumbles something about no ambient heat*
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Aug 24, 2012 17:57
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Arquinsiel posted:^^^^ I prefer this version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWUQV_kN0mg&t=58s  (Both Italian and Spanish dubs are awesome, especially the Zentradi voices) Pimpmust fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Aug 24, 2012 |
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Aug 24, 2012 18:01
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I dunno, a lot of the charm is lost when the Japanese music is replaced. It's just so delightfully lovely.
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Aug 24, 2012 18:36
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b0lt posted:Why does being in space make heatsinks more effective Physics is LosTech.
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Aug 24, 2012 21:15
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PoptartsNinja posted:One shot with all weapons on Ultra Mode puts you straight to 'Automatic Ammo Explosion' on the expanded heat table. But think of the glory!
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Aug 24, 2012 21:47
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b0lt posted:Why does being in space make heatsinks more effective Are you disputing that it's cold in space? More cold means more cooling, duh. It's totally scientific.
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Aug 24, 2012 21:54
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NmareBfly posted:Are you disputing that it's cold in space? More cold means more cooling, duh. It's totally scientific. Space does not have a temperature! 
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Aug 24, 2012 22:37
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Tarquinn posted:Space does not have a temperature! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_microwave_background_radiation posted:The CMBR has a thermal black body spectrum at a temperature of 2.725 K, which peaks at the microwave range frequency of 160.2 GHz Soylent Pudding posted:Physics is LosTech. Anti-derail: Does fighting in space automatically give you CASE? In that one physical breach and all the contents are sucked out into the void?
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Aug 24, 2012 23:51
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Nope. The inside of the mech/aerospace fighter/ship is far less resilient to explosions than the armor that surrounds it.
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Aug 25, 2012 00:11
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PoptartsNinja posted:Simon Says. I don't recall there being a particular limit to how many negative heatsinks you could have. I distinctly remember running around with a Firemoth/Dasher that had a 400-class engine in it, probably loaded to the brim with stupid weaponry too. It was...vaguely entertaining for a little while.
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Aug 25, 2012 02:11
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Taerkar posted:More like the Titanic armored tub. You know what's really funny about large naval support vehicles? Due to how critical slots are assigned for them and their tonnage, the most effective weapon for one of those is... the AC/2. Sure, the AC/2 sounds pretty mediocre. Until you realize you can mount literally 10 AC/2s for the price of an AC/20. You can mount 30 for the price of a Long Tom. There is nothing with better tonnage-to-SV-crit slots ratio, and you only have like 300 crit slots with 150,000 tons or so of mass. 298 AC/2s sounds pretty impressive to me.
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Aug 25, 2012 09:14
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MJ12 posted:You know what's really funny about large naval support vehicles? So you build the BT equivalent of an Atlanta-class cruiser? ... I now really really want to see that happen.
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Aug 25, 2012 09:24
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A floating sandstorm of TACs, head-taps, and interminable firing phases. As far as dick moves go, I like it!
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Aug 25, 2012 10:56
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Sweet Delia, I'd need a palette of boxes of death and a forklift to shake it with.
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Aug 25, 2012 11:17
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Defiance Industries posted:Sweet Delia, I'd need a palette of boxes of death and a forklift to shake it with. At that point honestly you could just forgo the dice and just use the average statistics, because variation will be pretty unlikely. :p
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Aug 25, 2012 21:55
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And since ammo should only be one crit slot for however much you want... 298 tons of ammo (for a total of 2086 tons or multiply that to get hilarious levels) And thus the ability to vaporize the hell out of enemies.
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Aug 25, 2012 23:09
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AtomikKrab posted:And since ammo should only be one crit slot for however much you want... How much damage would an ammo explosion of that caliber do?
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Aug 25, 2012 23:21
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Koorisch posted:How much damage would an ammo explosion of that caliber do? They'd be lucky to have a pond afterwards (26,820 damage explosion).
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Aug 25, 2012 23:24
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