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PoptartsNinja posted:J1 Annihilator IIC  This...this will be fun. However, there is perhaps a small boon here. If J1 isn't sporting FF armor, ES Structure, and/or an XL Engine, there's only 2 tons of AC ammo in it. Hopefully at least one of the LB 10-X ACs can be salvaged!
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Blake's Blood I'm dancing with an AnniHilaTor here.
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Aug 27, 2012 01:25
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Chronojam posted:Didn't expect one of those to show up. At least it's not another long-range nightmare. Actually, it kinda is. Each of those ACs can reach 18 hexes. E: Didn't you report that thing as having jumpjets last update, PTN?
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Aug 27, 2012 01:38
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dis astranagant posted:E: Didn't you report that thing as having jumpjets last update, PTN? Miranda thought it was a Stone Rhino.
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Aug 27, 2012 01:43
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PoptartsNinja posted:Miranda thought it was a Stone Rhino. Meaning there is a Stone Rhino on the planet somewhere. That could be lethal to the two smaller squads.
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Aug 27, 2012 01:44
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Good news: its an annie, Bad news: It is an ANNIHILATOR. 4 UAC/10s or possibly 4 LB-10x I'm leaning on UAC/10. 18 hexes and can do the double tap, think the thresher except 4 times as much boom, Downsides: slower than a brick outhouse, if it comes to it the atlas can duel him and just dance away gauss rifling.
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Aug 27, 2012 01:48
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AtomikKrab posted:Good news: its an annie, Thinking on it more, I'm guessing PTN's using a rebranded Annihilator C (which does mount 4 UAC/10s). It uses ES Structure, and carries 8 tons of UAC/10 ammunition, so it's not going to run out of ammo anytime soon. On the plus side, any crit that gets hit on the side torsos has a 1 in 2 chance of being ammo (I'm ignoring empty slots as those cause rerolls). Also, the armor's on the thin side for a 100 tonner. landcollector fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Aug 27, 2012 |
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Aug 27, 2012 01:57
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AtomikKrab posted:Good news: its an annie, It's also piloted by someone who probably has (or is tied for having) the best stats on the planet. VVV That's half the fun. It's Simon Says through a cipher. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Aug 27, 2012 |
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Aug 27, 2012 02:04
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Would someone please translate the clanner slang? We never did get every word from the previous update (I did my best) and this one is more obtuse.
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Aug 27, 2012 02:08
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Leperflesh posted:Would someone please translate the clanner slang? We never did get every word from the previous update (I did my best) and this one is more obtuse. Possible translations are in italics: The radio crackled, “The Surat eng, Quineg? Assun, unbid. Mytars.” "The monkey engages, no? I don't think so, you're not in my bid. These are my targets." “Chalcas Bands!” Miranda growled in frustration, “Dutserv, vengecom or deahon!” "Unacceptable (lit.) Bandits! It's my duty to either have vengeance or an honorable death!" “Useless, Dutob. Engen? Aff, esc Charl-Yan-Charl-Lim-Five-Nine-Five. Chargen, screen. Dratar. Deahon? Neg.” Tython laughed with humorless cruelty, “That is beyond your abilities, Miranda. At least try to die with some dignity.” "A useless observation of duty. So, you want to engage? Yes, escort CYCL-595. Charge, and act as a screen. Or a distraction target. An honorable death? No." gently caress, Clan comlang is stupid. I hope I got it mostly right PTN. Also, this guy is an rear end. landcollector fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Aug 27, 2012 |
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Aug 27, 2012 02:26
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Dratar is Draw Targeting or well draw fire, sadly the clops is just so tempting.
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Aug 27, 2012 03:41
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Krumbsthumbs posted:Meaning there is a Stone Rhino on the planet somewhere. That could be lethal to the two smaller squads. Or it could be salvage from this mission, since it's the star captain's mech after all.
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Aug 27, 2012 04:37
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PoptartsNinja posted:Miranda thought it was a Stone Rhino. Well, so did I, so I can't blame her. Also, are we supposed to be seeing that note about heat on J5's entry? It isn't like that on the other 'Mechs. Speaking of that particular robot, J5 is hanging back in an intriguing way. Everybody else is pushing up pretty expeditiously, but it decided to take a leisurely walk two hexes sideways instead. Something to watch as the situation develops.
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Because I can't help speculating: a guess about the Pillager. Unlike the traditional model, this one has a standard engine. I figure it has 4 tons of ammo, mostly because PTN has said he doesn't like leg ammo and 6 tons is kinda overkill for 2 gauss. The unknown lasers are probably 4 heavy mediums and an ER large , going by chatter in some of the political updates. It will have slightly less than maximum armor, to make room for a targeting computer. The short range weapons are likely mostly in the left arm and torso. Wild guess on the 70 tonner: Bowman. The Executioner looks fairly straightforward, but it has a nasty surprise for quite a few of our mechs.
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Aug 27, 2012 07:21
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Clanners abbreviating the NATO phonetic alphabet is just so clanny. Keeping the structure but missing the point.
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PoptartsNinja posted:This is something that hasn't been seen. It's also the debut of a new weapon system. We've seen gauss and OpFor has no CERPPC, so this isn't the five-headcapper C2. We've seen UACs of all calibers. We haven't seen LB-X yet. I posit that we're looking at a clantech ANH-2A variant, which would make those medium lasers pulse, and those AC-10s LB-X. Nasty.
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Aug 27, 2012 09:23
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So if my count is correct then by turn 5 you can blow the leftmost objective. You should consider doing this, that will likely get the clans to focus on bringing down the second vehicle before it destroys the Plant. A half functioning plant is probably good enough for the death commandos.
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Affi posted:So if my count is correct then by turn 5 you can blow the leftmost objective. You should consider doing this, that will likely get the clans to focus on bringing down the second vehicle before it destroys the Plant. Disagree. We can get into position out of line of sight without having to blow the plant: The fallback option should only be used if we have to fall back.
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Aug 27, 2012 10:38
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Yes, aim for excellence! You got the pilot skills to actually hit.
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Aug 27, 2012 10:41
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Tython sounds as sneeringly condescending as every Jade Falcon pilot ever, but in Hell's Horses colors.
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Aug 27, 2012 14:09
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Don't destroy the plant unless we're losing! We haven't even seen the results of our hopefully lethal Banshee-backstab!
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Aug 27, 2012 14:13
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Banshee should probably try to get cliffs between itself and the guy with anger management problems before initiating operation backstab.
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Aug 27, 2012 14:45
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And here was me hoping these would be protomechs rushed into service because of the lack of material dragged along with this new timeline's fleet. Oh well, we've got a whole planet left to find them in  That new mech is sporting my favorite weapon from Mercenaries, kitted out just like I did back in the day.
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AJ_Impy posted:We've seen gauss and OpFor has no CERPPC, so this isn't the five-headcapper C2. We've seen UACs of all calibers. We haven't seen LB-X yet. I posit that we're looking at a clantech ANH-2A variant, which would make those medium lasers pulse, and those AC-10s LB-X. We saw LB-X last battle. The Mars had an LB-10X and murdered people with it.
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Taerkar posted:We saw LB-X last battle. The Mars had an LB-10X and murdered people with it. Curious. I suppose those could be heavy med lasers, then.
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Taerkar posted:We saw LB-X last battle. The Mars had an LB-10X and murdered people with it. Dat Mars!
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I'm curious, which weapon do people find more dangerous: LB-X ACs or UACs? Each has their own reason to be feared.
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landcollector posted:I'm curious, which weapon do people find more dangerous: LB-X ACs or UACs? Each has their own reason to be feared. I'd fear an Ultra if I'm fully-armored and an LBX if I wasn't.
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The Casualty posted:I'd fear an Ultra if I'm fully-armored and an LBX if I wasn't. I fear the LB-X20 more than any other weapon. Slugs to make the hole, scatter to blow your ammo bins to pieces.
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What if its a Clan Ultra LB 20-X AC?
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landcollector posted:I'm curious, which weapon do people find more dangerous: LB-X ACs or UACs? Each has their own reason to be feared. LB-X is the most dangerous. Ultra can do more potential damage, but LB-X are more accurate, have far more chances to crit-seek and TAC, and absolutely wreck vehicles and aero. If the autocannon is your only big gun you can load a ton of slugs to holepunch, but if it is part of a big force you can get away with only loading clusters and firing after your other mechs to great results. Also Ultras can jam, which can ruin a battle as quickly as it began. It also makes a hell of an emergency weapon. Enemy TSM Berserker about to kick the leg off one of your mechs? Unload 6 LB-10X into him and watch as he blacks out from 4 pilot hits and a TAC hip. KnoxZone fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Aug 27, 2012 |
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Yeah, UAC can kill a mech by tearing it apart, but LB-X will kill a mech without needing to breach armor with some luck. Plus UAC actually has a less than 50% chance to actually hit with both shots, so it's mostly a waste of ammo and heat.
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Ultras are modal, and can use twice the heat and ammo expenditure for a chance at two shots hitting, at the risk of jamming the gun for the rest of the battle on snake-eyes. Ultra mode is frequently just a waste of ammo, especially if it misses, and generally should just be used in single-shot unless the to-hit is good enough. LB/X are much better. Not every pellet will hit, but the sheer amount of crit, tac and head hit potential makes them mathematically much more likely to kill or cripple a target. They can't jam, and can still fire solid ammo to get initial breaches if needed.
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The Gate posted:Yeah, UAC can kill a mech by tearing it apart, but LB-X will kill a mech without needing to breach armor with some luck. Plus UAC actually has a less than 50% chance to actually hit with both shots, so it's mostly a waste of ammo and heat. I think the only mech I regularly ultra an AC/20 with is the blitzkrieg. Mainly because when I use one, it's usually in the thick of things right behind something valuable. It can take a little extra heat, and if the to hit is good, it can pay to take the chance for an extra AC/20 hit on an assault mech's rear armor.
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Great Beer posted:What if its a Clan Ultra LB 20-X AC? Two Options: 1) Stay at least 13 hexes away from that mech And/Or 2) Fearquit Edit: V V V A 20 series RAC would be homicide inducing as well as hilarious. One ton of ammunition wouldn't even last a round in hexfire mode. landcollector fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Aug 27, 2012 |
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Aug 27, 2012 18:02
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obviously we need LB-X RACs. Using cluster ammo includes offering your opponent the opportunity to kick you in the junk.
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You know that Bane that tore holes in people? Assuming LB-10X ACs this Annihilator basically just skips the "to hit" roll and starts laying down clusters. It does the same amount of damage at slightly less range and in more clusters. Be afraid.
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Stupid question here: Everyone keeps speculating on what kind of super-Clantech Autocannons the Annihilator IIC is running... but the profile PTN posted at the end of the update just lists "Autocannon/10 x4". Presumably, if they were some kind of specialized Autocannons and not just vanilla AC/10s, wouldn't our Clanner co-pilot have mentioned that and PTN included it in the profile?
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W.T. Fits posted:Stupid question here: Everyone keeps speculating on what kind of super-Clantech Autocannons the Annihilator IIC is running... but the profile PTN posted at the end of the update just lists "Autocannon/10 x4". Not even second line garrison mechs use vanilla AC/10s; it's either LB-X or UACs for Clan mechs of any posting. V V V Eh, I consider my effort not bad for my first translation of Clan comlang. Could be better, but not bad. Thank you for the corrections, though. landcollector fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Aug 27, 2012 |
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landcollector posted:Possible translations are in italics: A few alternate suggestions: "Dutserv, vengecom or deahon!" = It's my duty to serve, either vengeance for my command or a death with honor! "Dutob" = It's your duty to obey. "Engen" = You want to engage the enemy? "Chargen" = Charge the enemy "Dratar" = Draw out the targets? Not sure about that one.
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