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I'd assume Akihiko taps into his debuffs when you have him focusing on the enemy. Heal/Support has him basically focusing on the team, so whatever AI setting is "Attack/gently caress up the enemy" then I'd assume that's what'll let him use his debuffs. Mind you, I haven't used AIs since P4 came out so it's been about 4 years.
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manny kaltz posted:I have a question about Persona 3. I wouldn't use non-direct commands in P3P. Since they added direct they seem to have gutted the party AI, and there weren't as many AI options as I remember having in FES.
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There was some talk about JYB's Yu a bunch of pages back so I thought this might be worth mentioning but now that the game's out and a couple of last summer cons have passed JYB's been getting asked about it. It's pretty clear that even HE'S uncomfortable with having to do both, but it's what the directors want so. He even tried out a different voice for Adachi in the anime he was saying but it didn't feel right at all. Amusingly enough he didn't even know he was going to be the MC originally, they only told him after he did all of Adachi's stuff ha ha. 
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Katsudon posted:There was some talk about JYB's Yu a bunch of pages back so I thought this might be worth mentioning but now that the game's out and a couple of last summer cons have passed JYB's been getting asked about it. It's pretty clear that even HE'S uncomfortable with having to do both, but it's what the directors want so. He even tried out a different voice for Adachi in the anime he was saying but it didn't feel right at all. Your avatar is amazingly appropriate for this post.
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Is he seriously trying a different voice for ADACHI? I imagine this is the ADR director telling him to do this, but serioulsy, Adachi's voice should not have to be gutted because Sentai wants to make every voice exactly like the game as long as it's within their power.
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Katsudon posted:There was some talk about JYB's Yu a bunch of pages back so I thought this might be worth mentioning but now that the game's out and a couple of last summer cons have passed JYB's been getting asked about it. It's pretty clear that even HE'S uncomfortable with having to do both, but it's what the directors want so. He even tried out a different voice for Adachi in the anime he was saying but it didn't feel right at all. I guess the ADR directors haven't been reading, I dunno, THE ENTIRE INTERNET? Every single time I see it brought up it's been said having him do both is a dumb idea and it is. The only reason I could possibly see that they think he has to do both is because Persona 4:Arena established him as Yu's voice too, but I don't think anybody would give 2 shits about it unless they really, really love JYB.
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Aug 26, 2012 14:49
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The Black Stones posted:I guess the ADR directors haven't been reading, I dunno, THE ENTIRE INTERNET? Every single time I see it brought up it's been said having him do both is a dumb idea and it is. The only reason I could possibly see that they think he has to do both is because Persona 4:Arena established him as Yu's voice too, but I don't think anybody would give 2 shits about it unless they really, really love JYB. Well to be fair, Persona 4 Original established them as having the same voice. That said, now that he's actually got lines it's kind of a bad idea. Since Yu didn't have any in the game besides the Persona calls, you don't really notice it. In Persona 3, Yuri Lowenthal voices Pharos, Ryoji, and MC. Ryoji and Pharos make sense, but they figured they'd recycle him for MC because hey, why not.
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Is he seriously trying a different voice for ADACHI? I imagine this is the ADR director telling him to do this, but serioulsy, Adachi's voice should not have to be gutted because Sentai wants to make every voice exactly like the game as long as it's within their power. He said he TRIED but then quickly scrapped the idea. So no Adachi's voice isn't different now, but it was something considered. And no apparently most directors don't really read the Internet at all and are in general kind of dumb. JYB had a few "won't name names" stories about how voice actors get all the poo poo for bad directing calls, and he's had to walk away from some roles a few times because he knows fans would rip him apart for what the directors want him to do. But yeah I'm assuming Altus wanted to do another P3 thing with the voices, and also play with the whole character foil thing but man it's really not going as planned. Especially since, while the thing in P3 was originally done in Japanese (the MC, Ryoji and Pharos were all voiced by Akira Ishida intentionally) that wasn't done at all in P4, where the MC and Adachi are voiced by two different people (Daisuke Namikawa and Mitsuaki Madono respectively) Katsudon fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Aug 26, 2012 |
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Aug 26, 2012 18:12
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It's a pity things are so screwed up with this because Adachi is probably one of his best roles.
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Aug 26, 2012 18:22
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Spiffo posted:Well to be fair, Persona 4 Original established them as having the same voice. Yeah, but all he ever did was shout "Persona!" in a cutscene and in-fights and grunted a lot. That role could have easily been recasted with 0% complaining except maybe from extreme JYB fans. I just assumed they had him double up in the games because why not? Nobody would care and you save on VA money.
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Aug 26, 2012 18:33
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I guess I'd have to see to believe, but I thought Yu's voice in Arena was different enough to adachi's that it doesn't really matter.
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Aug 26, 2012 19:06
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JYB always sounds the same to me. I think the only time I don't immediately recognize him is when he does "higher-pitched JYB" like in Disgaea 3.
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Cityinthesea posted:I guess I'd have to see to believe, but I thought Yu's voice in Arena was different enough to adachi's that it doesn't really matter. Personally I thought it was kind of disturbing to have him so similar to Adachi.
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My roommate who never played a persona game, only heard me playing in the background, recognized it was Adachi the first line of dialogue he spoke. Not by name, but you know, "Isn't that the same voice as that other guy who..."
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The Black Stones posted:Yeah, but all he ever did was shout "Persona!" in a cutscene and in-fights and grunted a lot. That role could have easily been recasted with 0% complaining except maybe from extreme JYB fans. I just assumed they had him double up in the games because why not? Nobody would care and you save on VA money. Yeah. I addressed that in the rest of my post.
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First pics from SMT4's trailer: http://game.girldoll.org/?eid=681 Looks too fantasy-ish for a mainline SMT game, doesn't it?
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They have COMPs... I assume this is a post apocalyptic world, somewhat like Nier's maybe?
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Petiso posted:First pics from SMT4's trailer: Look at all that anime Yeah, I know. Atlus.txt. Hey I think I'm just about near the end of Digital Devil Saga 1, can someone tell me about how much I've got left to go? We just finished the Brutes and found out that we all died before and stuff. The big tower now has whirlwinds and stuff going around it, they said "the door to Nirvana is open" and we're going to go to the tower. Am I coming up on the end? If so, this game was not only boring, but also pretty short. I mean no wonder the encounter rate is so high, if it were any less grindy I'd be done in a couple days.
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Spiffo posted:Am I coming up on the end? If so, this game was not only boring, but also pretty short. I mean no wonder the encounter rate is so high, if it were any less grindy I'd be done in a couple days. The last dungeon makes up for any shortness you may feel right now. It just goes on, and on, and on...
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Krad posted:The last dungeon makes up for any shortness you may feel right now. It just goes on, and on, and on... Is the tower I described the last dungeon? Please tell me it's the last dungeon. I'm told that it leaves so much unexplained that is answered in DDS Part 2, and I don't really care about any of it anyway, so if this is the last dungeon then I can just stop right now and re-play Persona 3 or Nocturne or something instead.
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Spiffo posted:Am I coming up on the end? If so, this game was not only boring, but also pretty short. Well, you're forgetting the fact that DDS1 is only half a game in the first place but there's also a ton of optional stuff you can do as well if you really want more after going through the entirety of the final dungeon once (and in a few cases, twice).
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Spiffo posted:Is the tower I described the last dungeon? It's been a while, but I think that's it. Not sure what you don't like about DDS, but you should consider giving DDS2 a chance. The gameplay's improved in that one and the story is, well, better, since it's not about The Matrix and getting out of it at the end.
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I love DDS2's story but I wouldn't really call it... good. I like it because it's loving insane, even by SMT standards.
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Petiso posted:First pics from SMT4's trailer: Yeah, i dunno what's up with the castles and stuff. I kinda hope they don't go the generic fantasy setting route, it doesn't seem like something that would go well with SMT. Then again, those screenshots are hardly very much basis for speculation, so i'll wait until the trailer itself comes out. e: Actually, those blue uniforms and the castles and poo poo kinda remind me of Arcadia from SMT Imagine. Maybe they're finally turning it into the full-fledged mainline game it deserves to b-ffffahahahaha, nah. Freak Futanari fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Aug 27, 2012 |
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I can't wait to see this trailer because first you see those castles and then you see a city!? I'm so down for this game.
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Technique posted:Yeah, i dunno what's up with the castles and stuff. I kinda hope they don't go the generic fantasy setting route, it doesn't seem like something that would go well with SMT. Then again, those screenshots are hardly very much basis for speculation, so i'll wait until the trailer itself comes out. You definitely get to run around in Tokyo:  Technique posted:e: Actually, those blue uniforms and the castles and poo poo kinda remind me of Arcadia from SMT Imagine. Maybe they're finally turning it into the full-fledged mainline game it deserves to b-ffffahahahaha, nah. "It looks like Imagine" was the first thing I thought when I saw the ingame screenshots.
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Tokyo seems like a real poo poo place to live in SMT world.
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Tokyo is a poo poo place to live in nearly any work of Japanese fiction. It's like living in New York City in American fiction.
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Dr Pepper posted:Pretty sure the plot they've told so far is that Tokyo gets transported to a fantasy world. Hopefully they just mean "fantasy" as in "has more nature-y places than other SMT games" and not "elves". A SMT game in a Nier-type post-apocalypse would definitely be ten types of cool.
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We already have pixies and dwarves and ogres, why not add elves? 
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We already have those, too! Seriously, SMT has always been fantasy. There's a big difference between "having a medieval castle" and "going full generic asking-to-be-sued-by-the-Tolkien-estate". vilkacis fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Aug 27, 2012 |
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^^^^^^^^ I think people are afraid of it being less sci-fi and/or dark than it was before? I guess?
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Really, as long as it's fantasy demons and rural Japan (or sumsuch) getting smashed together, there's really no cause for alarm.tooooooo bad posted:Tokyo seems like a real poo poo place to live in SMT world. To be fair, Tokyo is just the epicentre of the explosion of nonsense that is want to happen in SMT Games. I mean Tokyo was lucky in that it "Survived" (if you want to call it that) being turned into the Vortex World in Nocturne, the rest is just up and out gone ConanThe3rd fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Aug 27, 2012 |
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I probably got ripped off but a local resale shop had Persona 3 vanilla with the slipcase, art book and soundtrack marked used for $30. I bought it and being impatient looked at the art book ignoring the game itself. The book was stiff and the cd was still stuck to it and I found myself thinking "huh this feels new" then I looked at the game and it was still wrapped. Best find of the day right there.
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Hace posted:^^^^^^^^ I think people are afraid of it being less sci-fi and/or dark than it was before? I guess? I don't really mind the sci-fi, but drat if I don't want more RPG's with bitter-sweet or tragic writing.
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Don't worry, I'm sure it's going to end up with 3 medieval people (who are the best of friends) being sent to a hosed up and demon infested Tokyo that is all about crazy freedom in contrast to the totally controlled monarchy that your character grew up in. At some point one of your friends will give in to the temptations of the city and embrace the Chaotic nature(you will have to kill him), and then the other one is totally flabbergasted about how corrupt the city is and thinks that the power of ye olde medieval Law is needed to flush out all the bad vibes with no questions asked(you will have to kill him too). Suddenly you are by yourself to walk the line as you see fit, possibly killing a devil mayor and/or an angelic king along the way.
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The Black Stones posted:Yeah, but all he ever did was shout "Persona!" in a cutscene and in-fights and grunted a lot. That role could have easily been recasted with 0% complaining except maybe from extreme JYB fans. I just assumed they had him double up in the games because why not? Nobody would care and you save on VA money. Was he the same person who dubbed Yu in the anime and did he do adachi also? I played the english dub of P4 so I never noticed if it was the same VA's I kind of glossed over the past few messages in the blur of the pages. Len posted:I probably got ripped off but a local resale shop had Persona 3 vanilla with the slipcase, art book and soundtrack marked used for $30. I bought it and being impatient looked at the art book ignoring the game itself. The book was stiff and the cd was still stuck to it and I found myself thinking "huh this feels new" then I looked at the game and it was still wrapped. Best find of the day right there. HAND IT OVER...plis ;_;? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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xSousuke posted:Was he the same person who dubbed Yu in the anime and did he do adachi also? I played the english dub of P4 so I never noticed if it was the same VA's I kind of glossed over the past few messages in the blur of the pages. I think someone said that it was a different person in the Japanese version of the game (also the anime). They re-used JYB for both in P4-english.
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Hace posted:Don't worry, I'm sure it's going to end up with 3 medieval people (who are the best of friends) being sent to a hosed up and demon infested Tokyo that is all about crazy freedom in contrast to the totally controlled monarchy that your character grew up in. At some point one of your friends will give in to the temptations of the city and embrace the Chaotic nature(you will have to kill him), and then the other one is totally flabbergasted about how corrupt the city is and thinks that the power of ye olde medieval Law is needed to flush out all the bad vibes with no questions asked(you will have to kill him too). Suddenly you are by yourself to walk the line as you see fit, possibly killing a devil mayor and/or an angelic king along the way. Yeah, two of these characters are definitely gonna die: 
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