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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:After the 2 and a half seasons it took to finally reveal what the ship was for my mind was totally loving blown. I have never, ever seen the premise of a Sci-Fi show that was setting up to do what they were. It was such a huge departure from the usual OH GOD ALIEN INVAISON But, SGU only had 2 seasons?
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Rhyno posted:But, SGU only had 2 seasons?  I have the unaired seasons 3 through 8.
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Aug 30, 2012 02:51
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I agree with the last few posters too. The combination of the last season+ giving the show an interesting focus, as well as the cast all seeming like legitimately cool people made me root for the show.
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Aug 30, 2012 05:08
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I was also looking forward to SGU at the end. They put some really smart sci-fi things in there. They had truly incomprehensible aliens, both in speech and actions. They had two entire civilizations created, matured, and destroyed which were also their descendants via time-travel shenanigans. They had people backed up on a computer. They messed with planets and stars and entire solar systems. They went further from Earth than any other sci-fi series has ever gone. They were going someplace new, and I hoped they would continue. If they had just not spent so much time with the goddamn blue rocks visiting the Earth they weren't even supposed to be on contact with gah it makes my head hurt. Hey we're fifty bajillion light years away from Earth lets VISIT IT EVERY loving WEEK ANYWAYS.
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Aug 30, 2012 06:38
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Taking the cosmic background radiation and adding an element that even made the ancients go WHAT IN THE gently caress IS THAT was so cool my mind just about exploded. When Joe Malozzi posted on his blog I was so bummed. The next season was supposed to take place either 3, 10 or 100 years after the end of s2 with them leaning towards 10 years. This was gonna let them to do the Extinction story where the gate program goes public without having to do a movie. They were also going to use the split offs of the human civilization as a galactic species in the next galaxy destiny hit. We should do a kickstarter for a SGU mini-series on Netflix or something. I really do hope this isn't the last we see of the SGU story, or Stargate in general.
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Aug 30, 2012 09:11
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:Taking the cosmic background radiation and adding an element that even made the ancients go WHAT IN THE gently caress IS THAT was so cool my mind just about exploded. When Joe Malozzi posted on his blog I was so bummed. The next season was supposed to take place either 3, 10 or 100 years after the end of s2 with them leaning towards 10 years. This was gonna let them to do the Extinction story where the gate program goes public without having to do a movie. They were also going to use the split offs of the human civilization as a galactic species in the next galaxy destiny hit. We won't ever see any more SGU, even as a direct to DVD thing. I would however definitely buy a novel that wrapped up the series based on their notes. Usually tv show tie in books suck, but some of the ideas they had were really great.
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Senor Tron posted:We won't ever see any more SGU, even as a direct to DVD thing. I would however definitely buy a novel that wrapped up the series based on their notes. Usually tv show tie in books suck, but some of the ideas they had were really great. You say that, until we see him back on earth buying a lot of Meythlmene and ends up employing Walter White with the gate program and he builds a powersource to send him back to Destiny. With a load of the blue of course. 
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Aug 30, 2012 09:27
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The 'shine they make on Destiny just doesn't have that edge anymore and now the Colonel needs something stronger.
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I'm 12 episodes into SG:U and ... I kinda like it, I saw the first 3 episodes when it first came out, then promptly forgot about it, but at that time I hadn't watched SG1 or SG:A, maybe it's because I've become more invested in the stargate franchise but yeah, it definiately hasn't been terrible. It is taking MASSIVE note's from Battlestar Galatica, and for some reason, I keep thinking House, with some of the music/montage scenes and obviously it's being gritty etc Just finished the episode with the mysterious planet and sun outta nowhere episode, I hope they talk more about the mysterious aliens that can build planets and suns
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Sep 3, 2012 03:22
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Snowman95 posted:I'm 12 episodes into SG:U and ... I kinda like it, I saw the first 3 episodes when it first came out, then promptly forgot about it, but at that time I hadn't watched SG1 or SG:A, maybe it's because I've become more invested in the stargate franchise but yeah, it definiately hasn't been terrible. Honestly I think you're still in the lovely part of the show. Stick it out, it really pays off.
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"Time" and the episode with the mysteriously appearing planet were easily my favorite two episodes of the first 15 or so. The series as a whole gets way better after that, so if you already like it you're in for a good time. Until you get to the end and get really depressed about the cancellation.
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As someone who watched all 17 seasons of stargate shows in the last two years, SG:U was actually really promising. The biggest problem was it was trying to hard to be Battlestar Galactica. The civilian vs government political tension worked in BSG because there were thousands of people in the fleet that needed to to be organized. In SGU there's like 40 people in an ongoing crisis situation and absolutely no reason why they should be arguing about who's in charge. The setting was simple amazing. Destiny was basically Atlantis done right. SG:A was a great series, but the city itself was completely underwhelming. I though SG:U was terrible for about 7 episodes and then it got pretty good. Although after the attempted mutiny I would have shot that IOA woman in the face, or at least locked her up for ever.
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Just hit the season finale of season 1, pretty good, the Eli friend zone is getting a little played out, as is the angry asian lesbian, and the music montages just dont seem ... I dunno, right... but yeah, looking forward to season 2 sorta half heartedly, given all the great reviews for the 2nd half of the 2nd season and knowing there is no more after.
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Sep 5, 2012 03:47
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I'm watching Stargate Atlantis for the first time and I just hit the episode where Teyla sings.  I wasn't prepared for this, there's hardly any booze in the house at all.
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General Battuta posted:The montages were loving terrible. You can say it. And those horrid power ballads. Oy.
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NoodlesVonSexron posted:I'm watching Stargate Atlantis for the first time and I just hit the episode where Teyla sings. The sad part about that episode is that it's really a good episode sans Teyla. If you can get through it, it's really the worst Teyla moment.
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JetsGuy posted:The sad part about that episode is that it's really a good episode sans Teyla. If you can get through it, it's really the worst Teyla moment. Yeah, it was a great way to do an sg1 crossover episode, silly singing aside. I still love Dr. Lee trying to relate the Twilight Bark to the other SGC personnel, then just giving up and mentioning the fire signals in Lord of The Rings 
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Sep 5, 2012 07:08
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Yeah the argument over leadership on Destiny was absolutely retarded. The military would absolutely be in charge because to survive those conditions successfully you're going to need to come together as a group in a militaristic fashion, clear chain of command, the understanding that what needs to get done is getting done, etc.
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Sep 5, 2012 07:57
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RembrandtQEinstein posted:The SG-1 facebook page has been posting these. Those are kind of funny, but it's dumb to have Hammond on there, because when Don S. Davis died of a heart attack, so did General Hammond.
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Snak posted:Those are kind of funny, but it's dumb to have Hammond on there, because when Don S. Davis died of a heart attack, so did General Hammond. Yeah but the point is it's retelling Children of the Gods, when Don was still around. Here's the rest:     
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Okay that's pretty cute. They should probably do the entire series. It would take very little effort and I would probably keep going back to see the updates.
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Muslim Wookie posted:Yeah the argument over leadership on Destiny was absolutely retarded. The military would absolutely be in charge because to survive those conditions successfully you're going to need to come together as a group in a militaristic fashion, clear chain of command, the understanding that what needs to get done is getting done, etc. Except all of the military personnel were either bumbling incompetents or psychotic monsters. The Colonel was both. The main problem with SGU was that they tried to make a central pillar of the programme an interesting, nuanced conflict about ideals and realism, but did it in such a cackhanded way that the only character who was engaging enough for the viewer, and actually competent enough in-universe, to lead the group was the one character they intended you to see as a villain.
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JetsGuy posted:The sad part about that episode is that it's really a good episode sans Teyla. If you can get through it, it's really the worst Teyla moment. The even worse part is that Teyla's singing ruined what would have otherwise been an incredible sequence and a highlight of the show. Despite the awesomeness of the Goa'uld Col. Caldwell reveal, I can't watch that sequence all the way through thanks to the singing.
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tenh19 posted:The even worse part is that Teyla's singing ruined what would have otherwise been an incredible sequence and a highlight of the show. Despite the awesomeness of the Goa'uld Col. Caldwell reveal, I can't watch that sequence all the way through thanks to the singing. I haven't watched the episode in a while... how did they extract the Goa'uld from Caldwell? The Tok'ra?
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vandelay industries posted:I haven't watched the episode in a while... how did they extract the Goa'uld from Caldwell? The Tok'ra? Hermiod beamed it out of him with the Daedalus' Asgard beam.
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:Except all of the military personnel were either bumbling incompetents or psychotic monsters. The Colonel was both. SG:U provided a much needed break from stargate's formula of the best and brightest and most ethically aware team being in the right place at the right time. SG:U's cast was more flawed and more human. The Colonel was probably my favorite character. Rush may have been technologically competent, and even had a good concept of acceptable risk given how awesome Destiny's missions was, but he was an intolerable prick and it's totally realistic that people wouldn't just roll over and let him be in charge of anything. I'm not an apologist for the military, but when a bunch of idiot civilians who have no idea how to prioritize during a crisis stage a mutiny that disrupts survival critical operations and almost kills everyone, that's not a a joking matter or something you shrug off as a difference of opinion. The Colonel's judgement may have been compromised, but a bunch of politicians and scientists are not qualified to lead in this situation under the best of circumstances, much less a post mutiny situation. My favorite part of that arc was that the writers knew that the even though the civilians were acting like it was something the military would get used to, all the military personell were dead serious about it. It wasn't some magic situation where their biggest problem was how fair the chain of command was. They were literally facing death every other day from things as simple as resource management. There was once an argument over whether they should repair the weapons or work on a new hydroponics bay first. If their existing hydroponics had been non-functional I could kind of see the issue, but the argument was literally "The Colonel puts military priorities ahead of civilian ones" because he a because he's a member of the bloodthirsty military, and all the peace-loving civilians want to do is grow more plants. I'm going to assume that you didn't like Master Sergeant Greer either, even though he was one of the more "realistic" badasses in stargate and was pretty level headed and ACTUALLY FOLLOWED ORDERS. Even though he often had an attitude problem, he actually always followed orders, and even acted on instruction from non-military personell just as he should. I do agree that they completely fumbled what was supposed to be the engaging drama, but are you telling me that you thought Rush was a good guy? Rush was Daniel Jackson sans his super power. Daniel Jackson's super power was moral superiority, and it made him almost intolerable. As a trekkie, I apreciate a moral victory, but there is nothing more boring and annoying than a character who ALWAYS has the role of taking the high road over other characters. They fixed this excellently with McKay, and Rush was McKay crossed with Gaius Baltar.
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Snak posted:I'm not an apologist for the military, but when a bunch of idiot civilians who have no idea how to prioritize during a crisis stage a mutiny that disrupts survival critical operations and almost kills everyone, that's not a a joking matter or something you shrug off as a difference of opinion. The Colonel's judgement may have been compromised, but a bunch of politicians and scientists are not qualified to lead in this situation under the best of circumstances, much less a post mutiny situation. My favorite part of that arc was that the writers knew that the even though the civilians were acting like it was something the military would get used to, all the military personell were dead serious about it. The crew had just finished their first encounter with the Blue aliens. Rush was likely the main instigator of the mutiny, and he's doing it primarily to save his own skin. He wasn't about to let Young leave him behind again. Even in Episode 11, the civilians were talking about how Young basically left Rush behind because he didn't like him. Young never revealed the frame-job. Rush probably didn't need to be the most convincing guy to get enough people to follow the plan. Regarding the Hydroponics: It wasn't really wasn't much of an argument. I recall something about how the scientists were unfamiliar with the repairs. Someone was injured doing it, and that's why Young initially stopped it. Park was just giving a small protest about the changes, that's all.
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Snak posted:SG:U provided a much needed break from stargate's formula of the best and brightest and most ethically aware team being in the right place at the right time. SG:U's cast was more flawed and more human. The Colonel was probably my favorite character. Rush may have been technologically competent, and even had a good concept of acceptable risk given how awesome Destiny's missions was, but he was an intolerable prick and it's totally realistic that people wouldn't just roll over and let him be in charge of anything. I'm not an apologist for the military, but when a bunch of idiot civilians who have no idea how to prioritize during a crisis stage a mutiny that disrupts survival critical operations and almost kills everyone, that's not a a joking matter or something you shrug off as a difference of opinion. The Colonel's judgement may have been compromised, but a bunch of politicians and scientists are not qualified to lead in this situation under the best of circumstances, much less a post mutiny situation. My favorite part of that arc was that the writers knew that the even though the civilians were acting like it was something the military would get used to, all the military personell were dead serious about it. I don't know how one can't like Greer. He's one of the best characters in the series from the get go even if (at least I felt like) he never got fully fleshed out. A Teal'c, Ronon, Greer kick rear end across the universe episode would have been great. How I long for the day McKay and Zelenka kick in the door on destiny and bust everyone out of stasis then pull some McKay/Zelenka Rush/Eli magic on the ship. 
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xerxus posted:The crew had just finished their first encounter with the Blue aliens. Rush was likely the main instigator of the mutiny, and he's doing it primarily to save his own skin. He wasn't about to let Young leave him behind again. Even in Episode 11, the civilians were talking about how Young basically left Rush behind because he didn't like him. Young never revealed the frame-job. Rush probably didn't need to be the most convincing guy to get enough people to follow the plan. The real issue is that Colonel Young kept trying to make peace with Rush because he knew he needed him. Except for the time he left him to die on the planet he continually took a stance of "even though you framed me for murder, lead a mutiny on my ship, and lied about everything since the beginning of the pegasus project, we need you so let's just try to get along" and Rush couldn't return any kind of trust of spirit of cooperation at all because he's a piece of poo poo. I really believe that SG:U was "trying to be" Battlestar Galactica, and it suffered for it. All of the things that were handled poorly on SG:U were basically lifted from BSG, and not enough effort/time was spent making them actually work in the SG:U setting. Also, I think Rush is actually the most realistic "super genius" in all of stargate.
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:I don't know how one can't like Greer. ... A Teal'c, Ronon, Greer kick rear end across the universe episode would have been great. The answer is, at least for me, in your own words. Quite apart from seeming to be a charmless psychopath, there's also the really bothersome fact that he's the SGC mandated surly, aggressive, Noble Coloured Warrior Guy for the mission. Teal'c was great, Ronon was poo poo, Greer was a pattern. Teyla fits in as well, but I try not to think about her.
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Greer was so cardboard to start with that he was generally referred to as Sgt. Angry Black Man. Of course nobody on SGU had much depth to begin with, or to end with, but the show did at least get somewhat better at characterization. Except for Chloe.
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I'm on my phone right now so I can't really type out a huge response, but what were the people on Destiny supposed to do? As far as anyone on the ship was concerned they would be on that ship for the rest of their lives. Are they supposed to just surrender all control and decisions to the military half of the crew and set up a dictator for life for themselves and whatever inbred decendants they may have? These are politicians who come from a democratic society, people who(in an ideal world) are supposed to be completely against the consolidation of power into one individual. Of course one of the first things they'd want to see to is making sure there's a governing body that's fair and sees to the needs of everyone involved.
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See, that exact logic made sense in Battlestar Galactica, because there were thousands of people that needed to live together. On the Destiny, there's like 40, and food, water, and power need to be rationed with military discipline, period. This isn't even weird, and it had nothing to do with "The military" it has to do with the fact that right now, someone is in charge, according to the system in place. They aren't just random civilians, they are people who were working on the Icarus project. When you enter into cooperation with the military, you don't just get a free pass to do whatever you want because you don't have a rank. Daniel Jackson managed to play that card a few times in SG-1, but they sorted that poo poo out pretty quick. It's not like the military kidnapped these people and said they were in charge now, they are simple fulfilling their part of the partnership, which is ensuring the survival of everyone. Also, the civilian leader (I don't remember her name, the IOA woman) would constantly be setting a horrible example by questioning the Colonel in fron the crew, even about stupid stuff like the hydroponics bay. In fact she never exhibited any leadership skills whatsoever, and I have no idea how she got her job in the first place. If the destiny ever became a stable, safe place to live, that would be the time to restructure the leadership. Nevermind that the only good civilian leader that's ever been on Stargate was Richard Woolsey. I wish we had had him for more seasons.
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That's the most annoying thing about civilians movies about disaster situations. I hate the military with all my might, but in a crisis situation, there's a reason why the military works better than a random blob of morons. Chances are, unless you have some sort of government pay grade, being a civilian probably puts you at the bottom of the totem pole, not the top.
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