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They've still got the Neutral (Evil?) Albino Lizardfolk Cleric to deal with. Although, I wonder why Tarquin left him behind. Maybe he understands Malack to be competent even on his own?
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inthesto posted:That's some incredibly weak deus ex machina right there. No it's not. Tarquin's been established as powerful enough to hold off the Order by himself, so taking one member out for a round isn't deus ex machina. And the OOTS won that encounter, no question. Great passage of play (plus fast strips thank gently caress). V is next I am guessing. FIENDS AHOY.
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LashLightning posted:They've still got the Neutral (Evil?) Albino Lizardfolk Cleric to deal with. Although, I wonder why Tarquin left him behind. Maybe he understands Malack to be competent even on his own? I think it might just be a "parents do stupid things for their children" type of deal, honestly - if anyone's more important than Malack to Tarquin, it'd be his sons.
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Aug 31, 2012 00:00
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LashLightning posted:Although, I wonder why Tarquin left him behind. Malack was separated from the rest of the group by a door trap, so they couldn't grab him for a quick retreat. And Malack is competent enough to get away on his own. He hasn't been deafened, so he can hear what's happening on the other side of the metal (?) wall.
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Aug 31, 2012 00:12
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Malack definitely strikes me as the type to have Word of Recall prepared.
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LashLightning posted:They've still got the Neutral (Evil?) Albino Lizardfolk Cleric to deal with. Although, I wonder why Tarquin left him behind. Maybe he understands Malack to be competent even on his own? I doubt that the Order can open that door too quickly, it was closed by a trap so I think they will need to find and disarm the trap first. Otherwise Tarquin would have just opened it himself.
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Aug 31, 2012 00:22
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sebmojo posted:No it's not. Tarquin's been established as powerful enough to hold off the Order by himself, so taking one member out for a round isn't deus ex machina. Randomly knowing Drow sign language is INCREDIBLY deus ex machina
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greatn posted:Randomly knowing Drow sign language is INCREDIBLY deus ex machina Like randomly knowing how to pun-duel? Wearing a ring of true seeing? Knowing where the draketooth clan was at? Being able to catch all the slaves and nail them up in some tiny amount of time? Writing a manual with every possible PC scheme in it? He's been set up as a character who's more skilled and knowledgeable than anyone in the strip to date. That's the joke - he's an Evil Mary Sue. Him always having some absurdly detailed skill (and associated awesome story about the time he...) that fits the needs of the plot is the basis of his character. Unless you want to say he's a walking DEM, in which case, sure.
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Aug 31, 2012 01:09
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sebmojo posted:No it's not. Tarquin's been established as powerful enough to hold off the Order by himself, so taking one member out for a round isn't deus ex machina. I'm referring to the drow sign language. I know it's a callback to a really esoteric rule, but it's really not an interesting or entertaining one. And then the next few panels were just crammed with words that didn't add anything.
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greatn posted:Randomly knowing Drow sign language is INCREDIBLY deus ex machina Maybe, but I think that the Drow could probably get the idea of what Tarquin wanted just from the context of the situation alone, so I'll give that a pass.
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inthesto posted:I'm referring to the drow sign language. I know it's a callback to a really esoteric rule, but it's really not an interesting or entertaining one. Oh, ok. Sorry, I misunderstood. I think Rich just liked that line about 'unbalanced in the best way' and wanted that in.  And Tarquin has to leave in a stylish and in-command way, because he hasn't had his reversal yet. So a quick story about some awesome Drow hottie he banged back in the day is a way of showing he's retreating, rather then running away. I actually quite liked the old school call back - though it never made sense to me that a purely visual language would develop underground. THOSE WACKY OLDSCHOOL DUDES.
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Come on, these are the same guys who made the underground people have dark skin. Okay, we probably shouldn't go down this road, so: Predicting that Malack is going to turn on Nale and side with the Order in an instant. It's clear that he harbors them no ill will on a personal level, and he'll probably jump on any excuse to make Nale suffer.
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sebmojo posted:I actually quite liked the old school call back - though it never made sense to me that a purely visual language would develop underground. THOSE WACKY OLDSCHOOL DUDES.
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inthesto posted:Predicting that Malack is going to turn on Nale and side with the Order in an instant. It's clear that he harbors them no ill will on a personal level, and he'll probably jump on any excuse to make Nale suffer. Turn on Tarquin? I'm not so sure.
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Colon V posted:Turn on Nale? Almost certainly. It'll depend hugely on how Tarquin keeps dealing with Nale. If Malack sees that Tarquin has no intention of letting him deal with Nale eventually, I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, given their relationship, I wouldn't be surprised unduly if Tarquin takes in completely in stride instead of going off on a ranting revenge angle.
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Ursine Asylum posted:It'll depend hugely on how Tarquin keeps dealing with Nale. If Malack sees that Tarquin has no intention of letting him deal with Nale eventually, I wouldn't be surprised. In fact, given their relationship, I wouldn't be surprised unduly if Tarquin takes in completely in stride instead of going off on a ranting revenge angle. It's a really interesting question. I love Malack too, he's a fascinating character.
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Another thing to consider about the Drow sign language is that the Drow mage was originally a parody of Drizzt Do'Urden and the Drizzt books used the sign language a lot, especially in the prequel books when he still lived with other Drow. It's more likely a co-incidence than a reference though.
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DeadBonesBrook posted:Another thing to consider about the Drow sign language is that the Drow mage was originally a parody of Drizzt Do'Urden and the Drizzt books used the sign language a lot, especially in the prequel books when he still lived with other Drow. It's more likely a co-incidence than a reference though. There is no way it is not a deliberate reference.
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My Lovely Horse posted:That poor winged kobold dude. He's just completely out of his depth. He's pretty rad. Kobolds in general are cool, though. And if I remember my stuff correctly, winged kobolds are Dragonblooded, which both makes them Special in kobold society and gives them some bonus oomph. There might be more to that guy than we've seen yet. Redeye Flight fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Aug 31, 2012 |
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Redeye Flight posted:He's pretty rad. Kobolds in general are cool, though. Drama demands that he kill Belkar. Maybe a bit too pat, but.
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I hope we get a "-2" book that's all about Tarquin and friends.
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I love the fact that Tarquin keeps talking even though everyone who can hear him is either deaf or unconscious.
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NihilCredo posted:Erm, infravision? Which I still don't know why it was changed to the much more boring darkvision Pure game mechanismery. "Okay, you can see up to six squares ahead." Perceiving infrared is harder to adjudicate during gameplay because not everybody has enough scientific knowledge to guess how long a warm footprint remains visible, whether shoes negate the heat transfer or not, and myriad other uses of infravision unrelated to "you see that there's an orc in front of you". Cat Mattress fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Aug 31, 2012 |
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Colonial Air Force posted:I hope we get a "-2" book that's all about Tarquin and friends. That would own.
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ZearothK posted:I love the fact that Tarquin keeps talking even though everyone who can hear him is either deaf or unconscious. He needed Roy to know that he banged that draw chick.
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Tinyn posted:He needed Roy to know that he banged that draw chick. And apparently pissed on her
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ZearothK posted:I love the fact that Tarquin keeps talking even though everyone who can hear him is either deaf or unconscious. One cannot let minor inconveniences like that get in the way of proper style.
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RickoniX posted:And apparently pissed on her I'm not quite sure that's what we were supposed to infer from that, but given drow tendencies, I suppose it's possible. It's probably best left to the reader's imagination rather than explicitly spelled out, though. As far as a Tarquin and Friends book, it should be Book -0.5, since it would almost certainly start after Book -1 did. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Aug 31, 2012 |
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Cat Mattress posted:Pure game mechanismery. "Okay, you can see up to six squares ahead." Perceiving infrared is harder to adjudicate during gameplay because not everybody has enough scientific knowledge to guess how long a warm footprint remains visible, whether shoes negate the heat transfer or not, and myriad other uses of infravision unrelated to "you see that there's an orc in front of you".
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jng2058 posted:I'm not quite sure that's what we were supposed to infer from that, but given drow tendencies, I suppose it's possible. It's probably best left to the reader's imagination rather than explicitly spelled out, though. Tarquin posted:This one time I thought I was using the hand sign for "drinking fountain" but it turned out I was actually asking if I could- So he made a watersports joke out of that, I guess. \/  \/
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jng2058 posted:As far as a Tarquin and Friends book, it should be Book -0.5, since it would almost certainly start after Book -1 did. I was thinking that, but I didn't know if that would fit on the spine. And actually a lot of it would take place at the same time as the main story.
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LashLightning posted:So he made a watersports joke out of that, I guess. \/ Yeah, or he asked is she was a squirter, or if he could suckle her... Who knows, who cares.
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I thought the strip was okay but it seemed a little silly that with such a good plan Roy didn't have some contingency in mind for teleport. He actually seems surprised they're doing it because he suddenly has to ask Durkon if he can stop them somehow.
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Apocron posted:because he suddenly has to ask Durkon if he can stop them somehow.
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Just as importantly he was expecting V to be there with his prepared spells.
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Keep in mind that the entire plan is something Roy came up with about ten minutes ago and the sum total of its ambition was "counterattack and don't die." It's a really good plan considering that, but it's not reasonable to think it would be planned out to the tenth decimal place like something Batman had a week to set up or some poo poo. It has accomplished its twin goals of "counterattacked" and "we didn't die."
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They survived a planned, coordinated assault by a capable band of prepared leveled classes. Usually that kind of strike team is death incarnate. None of them even died! Id say that's pretty badass.
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To be fair, Durkon would be dead if Tarquin hadn't specifically not killed him as a favor to his buddy.
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Roy sort of got killed, or at least had 0 hitpoints outside and had to be healed by Durkon as well. At least they have Tarquin's axe now, maybe he won't be so impossible to defeat? Although the only one that could use it would be Durkon (assuming he is allowed to use axes - are clerics still bound by the whole 'no cutting edges' rule in 3.5?).
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