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Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

Slime posted:

Everyone fails to stop the reckoning. It's one of the things necessary for the players to get to earth, the reason players enter the medium to escape it, and a reason to want to create a new universe.

To be more precise, everyone fails to stop the reckoning from starting. The problem is that if you don't eventually destroy the black king's scepter to stop it, then Skaia is just going to get hammered until there's nothing left to make a new world with.

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Nighthand
Nov 4, 2009

what horror the gas

As effective as Meenah seems like she would be at the game, it's not the kind of game where one player can carry the rest of the team completely. Unless you're Dirk, apparently.

Also she was probably way more concerned with taking every single thing of value in every one of the 12 lands. How else would she have the most obscene amount of wealth?

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Midnight Raider posted:

To be more precise, everyone fails to stop the reckoning from starting. The problem is that if you don't eventually destroy the black king's scepter to stop it, then Skaia is just going to get hammered until there's nothing left to make a new world with.

Yeah, this. Every non-void session fails to prevent it, but every successful session ends it.

Pester
Apr 22, 2008

Avatar Fairy? or Fairy Avatar?
If a "normal" sburb game is supposed to last a few years, is that what we can expect when the meteor and ship arrive at B2? Is the objective of the final acts going to be defeating Lord English and winning Sburb? With the redmiles reaching b2, they're going to need some universe to live in.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Midnight Raider posted:

To be more precise, everyone fails to stop the reckoning from starting. The problem is that if you don't eventually destroy the black king's scepter to stop it, then Skaia is just going to get hammered until there's nothing left to make a new world with.

Does it need to be destroyed? Or just seized? From what I remember, Jack Noir destroyed the Black King's scepter to de-prototype the King and to prevent the Reckoning from being stopped. He seized the White King's sceptre to start the Reckoning. It seems more logical to me that WKS starts the Reckoning, BKS stops it, the Black side wins the fight and starts the reckoning, the players then fight the Black King and use his scepter to stop it. Since destroying the scepter de-prototype the King, it'd be a far too convenient shortcut to win the final boss fight.

In the kids' session, the Reckoning was stopped IIRC when Jade finally entered, by her prototyping changing the morphology of Skaia.

Hamiltonian Bicycle
Apr 26, 2008

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The B1 session's reckoning wasn't stopped. It went on right up to the Scratch - just before Jade went dog tier, Jadesprite and Davesprite were just sort of sitting around the battlefield contemplating their impending demise as meteors came at them.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

When Bec was prototyped pre-entry, the Battlefield advanced to the next level of complexity, which in the process repaired (some of) the damage it had sustained in the war. The Reckoning in B1 was never stopped; Jade simply moved the Battlefield (which was damaged, but not destroyed) out of the way during Cascade.

You're probably right that the black scepter is what stops the Reckoning, though.

Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

Cat Mattress posted:

Does it need to be destroyed? Or just seized? From what I remember, Jack Noir destroyed the Black King's scepter to de-prototype the King and to prevent the Reckoning from being stopped. He seized the White King's sceptre to start the Reckoning. It seems more logical to me that WKS starts the Reckoning, BKS stops it, the Black side wins the fight and starts the reckoning, the players then fight the Black King and use his scepter to stop it. Since destroying the scepter de-prototype the King, it'd be a far too convenient shortcut to win the final boss fight.

In the kids' session, the Reckoning was stopped IIRC when Jade finally entered, by her prototyping changing the morphology of Skaia.

I honestly forget if it was ever said, but I swear I recall hearing it somewhere. But anyway, from this page it looks like the black king's scepter is being destroyed right in his hand. Which would be a pretty inconvenient place for it to blow up if you need to capture it to stop the reckoning.

http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004497

I assumed Jack destroying the black scepter still achieved the same goal of making the reckoning unstoppable, it's just that the reason why would be the time he did it: Before the reckoning happened in the first place, meaning it was wasted when there wasn't anything to actually stop yet. Which is fitting in how broken the kid's session was, as it'd be practically a sequence breaking glitch.

(Which reminds me that I still wondered what happened to the white scepter after Jack was done with it. If he still has it on him or if he chucked it somewhere. Maybe left it on the battlefield.)

Zooloo
Mar 30, 2003

just wanted to make you something beautiful
The reckoning starts when the Black King uses the White Scepter. Hussie explicitly said this multiple times. Hearts Boxcar stole the white scepter for this reason.

Mystic Mongol
Jan 5, 2007

Your life's been thrown in disarray already--I wouldn't want you to feel pressured.


College Slice

Pester posted:

If a "normal" sburb game is supposed to last a few years, is that what we can expect when the meteor and ship arrive at B2? Is the objective of the final acts going to be defeating Lord English and winning Sburb? With the redmiles reaching b2, they're going to need some universe to live in.

Lord English is the personification of inevitable entropy--the force that destroys the old universe as the new one is created, the ~U() function that deconstructs universes that we're done with. But he's jumped the rails, and is corrupting and destroying worlds that are still in action.

Basically, entropy himself has flipped our protagonists the bird.

I don't know what the solution will be, but I imagine it will be a little more difficult than gaining all the levels and then stabbing him with a sword.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
Fuchsia Ruler is a great song for an ancient, twisted being who has countless trillions live and die at her whim, with no other company than freaks brought into being or by inhumane science or existing in a perpetual nightmare. It is a bad song for a punk grrl who wants to do her own thang.

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Dr Christmas posted:

Fuchsia Ruler is a great song for an ancient, twisted being who has countless trillions live and die at her whim, with no other company than freaks brought into being or by inhumane science or existing in a perpetual nightmare. It is a bad song for a punk grrl who wants to do her own thang.

Except, realistically speaking, Meenah and Condesce are two characters who remained very similar between her pre and post-scratch versions. The Condesce just got an opportunity Meenah hadn't. Do you really think Meenah wouldn't off Empress Feferi and take over if she had the chance?

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

Seoinin posted:

So if the Sufferer is a tumblr dingus, naturally the Summoner will be a humorlessly earnest trot with a messenger bag full of socialist party newspapers.

I'm hoping that the Summoner (who apparently looks like Rufio if those leaked spritesheets are to be believed) talks like Dante Basco does on his blog, so lots of ...... and babe's and stuff.

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


So it looks like the update was fixed a little for people who was having problems. Well, I didn't have any problems but let's go see if anything's different this time wait why the hell can't I move :v:

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
So pre-Scratch Handmaid was the Witch of Time. I wonder if she's the relatively benign B1 Batterwitch?

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Mazerunner posted:

I'm hoping that the Summoner (who apparently looks like Rufio if those leaked spritesheets are to be believed) talks like Dante Basco does on his blog, so lots of ...... and babe's and stuff.

Well we already knew that A2 Summoner looked like Rufio. The fact that A1 Summoner looks like Rufio is just confirmation that he's probably rad as all hell.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry

Color Printer posted:

So it looks like the update was fixed a little for people who was having problems. Well, I didn't have any problems but let's go see if anything's different this time wait why the hell can't I move :v:
Haha, yep. Doesn't work in any browser for me now. Looks like the text looks OK in Firefox now, though.

DaveKap
Feb 5, 2006

Pickle: Inspected.



Grrl Anachronism posted:

I think I missed the page back where all the avatar stuff went on, but who is resizing all these sprites? I'd love to have this as my avatar.

Yo

Luminous Obscurity
Jan 10, 2007

"The instrument you know as a piano was once called a pianoforte, because it can play both loud and quiet notes."

Slime posted:

Well we already knew that A2 Summoner looked like Rufio. The fact that A1 Summoner looks like Rufio is just confirmation that he's probably rad as all hell.

A1 Summoner's name will be Zuko.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
Six letters, though. ...Zuukio?

Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

Color Printer posted:

So it looks like the update was fixed a little for people who was having problems. Well, I didn't have any problems but let's go see if anything's different this time wait why the hell can't I move :v:

Before the fix, the gameplay section had enough slowdown to be patently unplayable when using Opera. Now, it's normal speed! ...Although it turns out my Opera at least has an annoying quirk that holding up or down makes the page start to scroll despite being in the flash. I can move in it, though.

YggiDee posted:

Six letters, though. ...Zuukio?

Rufioz, obviously.

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Luminous Obscurity posted:

A1 Summoner's name will be Zuko.

But, wait, he's a Breath player so he'll be hunting...himself?

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

Slime posted:

But, wait, he's a Breath player so he'll be hunting...himself?

If he's prince of breath then he'd be 'destroyer of breath'?


vvv also because Zuko was a prince

Mazerunner fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Sep 2, 2012

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Thief of Breath would be most appropriate, because he takes your breath away. But no.

Prince of Breath, meaning one who causes destruction using breath (wind, air, respiration, etc.). On Alternia, he led armies of mind-controlled monsters while flying. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

voting third party
Sep 5, 2006
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I don't think it's been mentioned here, but Robert Blaker, the guy who did Upward Movement, released an electronic album today. Here's a link. I like it overall, except for the third song, which is really annoying.

GrizzlyCow
May 30, 2011

Bongo Bill posted:

Prince of Breath, meaning one who causes destruction using breath (wind, air, respiration, etc.).

Um, I'm not sure, but doesn't Prince has two meanings? Like Dirk, the Prince of Heart (Destroyer of Souls). One who destroys souls, and one who destroys with souls.





Anyway, it'll be good to finally see the Summoner; he's currently my second most anticipated character (second character who I anticipate the most?) after The Royal Highblood, of course.

uranium grass
Jan 15, 2005


Thanks!

VocalizePlayerDeath
Jan 29, 2009

Homestuck speculation class matching game.

Available characters:
Summoner, The ____ of Breath.
Psioniic, The ____ of Doom.
Disciple, The ____ of Heart.
Darkleer, The ____ of Void.
Highblood, The ____ of Rage.
Dualscar, The ____ of Hope.

Available classes:
Mage, Page, Heir, Bard, Prince, Rogue
....
My predictions.
Summoner, The Mage of Breath.
Psioniic, The Heir of Doom.
Disciple, The Page of Heart.
Darkleer, The Bard of Void.
Highblood, The Prince of Rage.
Dualscar, The Rogue of Hope.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

It's possible there are more classes than the fifteen we know.

GrizzlyCow posted:

Um, I'm not sure, but doesn't Prince has two meanings? Like Dirk, the Prince of Heart (Destroyer of Souls). One who destroys souls, and one who destroys with souls.

You can't take these things too rigidly.

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


Bongo Bill posted:

It's possible there are more classes than the fifteen we know.

You mean twelve. Unless you're counting Muse and Lord, then you mean fourteen.

I don't think he'll introduce any more, though, since there being 12 standard classes and 12 standard aspects fits nice and neat. There could always be another special case, though, like with Calliope/Caliborn.

Mazerunner
Apr 22, 2010

Good Hunter, what... what is this post?

Bongo Bill posted:

It's possible there are more classes than the fifteen we know.

Wait, fifteen?

Anyway:

Summoner, The Prince of Breath.
Psioniic, The Heir of Doom.
Disciple, The Page of Heart.
Darkleer, The Mage of Void.
Highblood, The Rogue of Rage.
Dualscar, The Bard of Hope.

vvv well yeah, he did a lovely job of it

Mazerunner fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Sep 2, 2012

Slime
Jan 3, 2007

Mazerunner posted:

Wait, fifteen?

Anyway:

Summoner, The Prince of Breath.
Psioniic, The Heir of Doom.
Disciple, The Page of Heart.
Darkleer, The Mage of Void.
Highblood, The Rogue of Rage.
Dualscar, The Bard of Hope.

Somehow I don't think one will pan out. The A1 trolls were too peaceful to have a Rogue of Rage. Rogues are like thieves, stealing their aspect from enemies, but in the case of rogues they give what they stole to their allies. He might be a Prince, though. Destroyer of Rage sounds like a role the A1 trolls would have filled.

My prediction is that his scary makeup and everything is considered funny on Beforus. He's a harmless clown, making his friends laugh with his silly antics.


Edit: Wait wait lemme edit this real quick.:goonsay:

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


You are guys are just dancing around the two obvious choices for Makara. There is simply no way he will be anything other than the Mage of Rage or the Page of Rage. :colbert:

EDIT: v This guy knows what the gently caress is up.

Color Printer fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Sep 2, 2012

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe
Prince of Rage might be too close to Bard of Rage, though, since they're the active and passive versions of each other. And that's boring.

My guess is for Mage of Rage. My pet theory is that the Mage class is about subverting its element; Calliope described Doom as being the opposite of Life and talked about how heroes of two such opposite elements could wind up with functionally similar powers if their classes were also mirror opposites. Defying death seems to be a common theme between the Maid of Life (Jane) and Mage of Doom (Sollux.) Maid is an explicitly servile title, and of the three characters with the Maid title the one who's gone the furthest and embraced it the most is Aradia, who absolutely sees herself as and acts in the capacity of a servant to her element; Jane and Porrim both have some maid-like qualities too (I wouldn't necessarily call them servile, but they do seem fairly... servicial? Servicey?) So if the Maid is all about submitting yourself to the service of your element, the Mage as its opposite number is all about flipping the bird to your element and doing your own thing with it.

Also and more importantly just listen to it. Mage of Rage. C'mon.

King of Solomon
Oct 23, 2008

S S

Slime posted:

Somehow I don't think one will pan out. The A1 trolls were too peaceful to have a Rogue of Rage. Rogues are like thieves, stealing their aspect from enemies, but in the case of rogues they give what they stole to their allies. He might be a Prince, though. Destroyer of Rage sounds like a role the A1 trolls would have filled.

My prediction is that his scary makeup and everything is considered funny on Beforus. He's a harmless clown, making his friends laugh with his silly antics.


Edit: Wait wait lemme edit this real quick.:goonsay:

It's the role Gamzee filled.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Huh, I reloaded the A6I3 page in chrome, but now I can't walk anywhere. I'm frozen in place. Anyone else having this problem?

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
They've been mucking around with the coding to help out everyone who's been having trouble viewing the update, but it's been a little rocky. I had the same problem earlier today, so try clearing your cache and you might get better results.

Castomira
Feb 24, 2011

Fuck you Eva Marie, if you have to be right there next to all of my posts you don't even get to have red hair. You're a dryad now.
:froggonk:
Speaking of which, this flash doesn't have a Trickster mode, does it? I tried making it happen in all the traditional ways and I'm pretty sure they didn't put one in.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
Only the opening is Flash, the rest is HTML 5 and Javascript.

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Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

To those having trouble moving, have you tried the WSAD keys instead of the arrows? That might be a temporary fix at the very least, assuming that works.

Castomira posted:

Speaking of which, this flash doesn't have a Trickster mode, does it? I tried making it happen in all the traditional ways and I'm pretty sure they didn't put one in.

I think Trickster mode officially got the send off of just saying "gently caress this" during one of the earlier Alterniabound flashes, and hasn't been seen since. Although there is a different sort of secret in an item you can find if you figure out how to lure Hussie to the locked door.

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