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Crumps Brother
Sep 5, 2007

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Bonzo posted:

What is your wireless router like? Are you broadcasting over G or N? I don't think G can do high def.

Both the router and the adapter should be capable of broadcasting over N. iwconfig tells me that I'm connecting on the 2.4Ghz frequency and not the 5.0Ghz. I'm not sure if it's a hardware or software limitation that's keeping the adapter from connecting to the higher frequency. 550KB/s makes me think it's broadcasting in B for some reason even though G and N are both available.

I've been poking around more since making that last post. It looks like there's a bunch of stuff I can try to do with the router as well involving new firmware and a couple different settings. I'll try that out when I go home for lunch and see if it helps things too.

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berzerker
Aug 18, 2004
"If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."
I've never had perfect success playing HD over wireless, it's a real pain. It's not the amount of data that's the issue, it's that wireless tends to send data in chunks. I'd look into either a long ethernet cord (very cheap) or powerline networking (somewhat more expensive). Try ethernet first to see if that fixes the problem so you can isolate whether it's the wifi or something else.
Another issue is to try turning off all firewalls to see if that fixes it (then if so, put it back and start writing exceptions). I had a hell of a time getting the firewall settings right to share to my HTPC, but it works perfectly now.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend
I eventually gave up on wireless HD as well. I could do 720p stuff almost perfectly, but it would start stuttering and/or artifcating in "busy" scenes (think about that shot of tons of birds in one of the Planet Earth episodes). 1080p was a stutter fest no matter what. I tried different adapters, a couple of different routers, firmwares, etc. Then I ran a cable and never worried about it again.

I know running a cable isn't possible in all scenarios, but powerline networking is another option, even it can be pricey.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Crumps Brother posted:

I almost have my HTPC ready to go. Although now there seems to be just one problem left that's plaguing me. I can't seem to get decent network speeds through my system. My media sits on an external HDD that's plugged in to the USB port on a Linksys E3200. My HTPC is a Zotac AD-11 with XBMCuntu installed on it running an Eden build. For some reason the most I can squeeze out of my wireless connection is about 550KB/s. If I run a cable to the router from the HTPC then HD content will play with no problems (runs around 7.1MB/s), but if I try to watch any HD videos over wireless it has to buffer video every 10 seconds or so.

I should be able to play HD stuff over wireless, right? Are there better drivers out there I could try? I'm really at a loss for what else I can do. I'm also not sure if this question is better suited for the XBMC thread or another thread for networking support.

The zotac wireless card is poo poo. Hardwire it or order an intel card.

Tedronai66
Aug 24, 2006
Better to Reign in Hell...

Don Lapre posted:

The zotac wireless card is poo poo. Hardwire it or order an intel card.

Or, if you have 5GHz on your router (and a non lovely router), the asus USB-N53 has been streaming all my uncompressed bluray, etc. perfectly for me.

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

EC posted:

I know running a cable isn't possible in all scenarios, but powerline networking is another option, even it can be pricey.

This is what I did since I would have had to hire someone to run cat5 drops, so it worked out in the end. No issues whatsoever with my WD livewire or whatever its called.

I noticed some powerline stuff on monoprice as well which was cheaper, might be worth a toss. Just get stuff at a reputable place since its difficult to determine if something will work or not.

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

Crumps Brother posted:

I almost have my HTPC ready to go. Although now there seems to be just one problem left that's plaguing me. I can't seem to get decent network speeds through my system. My media sits on an external HDD that's plugged in to the USB port on a Linksys E3200. My HTPC is a Zotac AD-11 with XBMCuntu installed on it running an Eden build. For some reason the most I can squeeze out of my wireless connection is about 550KB/s. If I run a cable to the router from the HTPC then HD content will play with no problems (runs around 7.1MB/s), but if I try to watch any HD videos over wireless it has to buffer video every 10 seconds or so.

I should be able to play HD stuff over wireless, right? Are there better drivers out there I could try? I'm really at a loss for what else I can do. I'm also not sure if this question is better suited for the XBMC thread or another thread for networking support.

I have the Zotac Nano AD-10. Do you have the little add-on antenna on properly? When I tried to use the wireless without it, I had the same speeds you had.

Crumps Brother
Sep 5, 2007

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Don Lapre posted:

The zotac wireless card is poo poo. Hardwire it or order an intel card.

Tedronai66 posted:

Or, if you have 5GHz on your router (and a non lovely router), the asus USB-N53 has been streaming all my uncompressed bluray, etc. perfectly for me.
I think this is going to be my next step. I don't think I have a lovely router (Linksys E3200), but I guess we'll find out. I checked out the website and ASUS provides updated Linux drivers so that could help a bit too. I flat out can't run an ethernet cable from the router to the box as a final solution so if a better adapter doesn't work then I'll probably look in to powerline stuff.


Sporadic posted:

I have the Zotac Nano AD-10. Do you have the little add-on antenna on properly? When I tried to use the wireless without it, I had the same speeds you had.
I went ahead and tested how transfer speeds were with the antenna in each set of USB ports. I couldn't get any kind of connection with the front port or no port. The set I'm currently using (which has a little wifi label next to it) was right where I've been lately. Finally, the other USB ports on the back scored me a massive 110KB/s. So I've either done nothing wrong or everything wrong with regards to antenna placement.

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

You don't have the antenna that attaches to the back? Are you using some usb wifi adapter?

The ad10 doesn't have a usb port on front, the thing that looks like a usb port is a IR receiver.

kri kri fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Sep 5, 2012

Crumps Brother
Sep 5, 2007

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kri kri posted:

You don't have the antenna that attaches to the back? Are you using some usb wifi adapter?

The ad10 doesn't have a usb port on front, the thing that looks like a usb port is a IR receiver.
Just to make sure we're on the same page, I have an AD11. Anyway, I thought that seemed like an odd question but yeah mine is a USB wifi adapter. And the front has a port that doubles for USB and eSATA.

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

Woops, I thought you had an ad10.

If its at all possible to use ethernet just do that and save yourself the headache.

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

Crumps Brother posted:

I went ahead and tested how transfer speeds were with the antenna in each set of USB ports. I couldn't get any kind of connection with the front port or no port. The set I'm currently using (which has a little wifi label next to it) was right where I've been lately. Finally, the other USB ports on the back scored me a massive 110KB/s. So I've either done nothing wrong or everything wrong with regards to antenna placement.

I didn't know there was such a difference between models. Mine came with a mini antenna I had to screw into the back.

Did you already get all the drivers/updates from Zotac's site? Mine was wonky as hell until I installed them.

berzerker
Aug 18, 2004
"If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."
Ethernet drivers are definitely a huge deal. I had my HTPC working beautifully streaming from my main PC, then wanted to also send files to an Apple TV 2, and just could not get it to work. Wired everything with ethernet, turned off firewalls, tried everything and consulted forums - it would play stuff, but buffer forever and stutter constantly.
Finally I looked up the ethernet adapter on my data-PC's motherboard, found a driver not listed on the motherboard manufacturer's site, and everything worked perfectly from there on out.

Xenix
Feb 21, 2003
I was about to purchase a Zacate motherboard/cpu/gpu combo and then read that they don't work well with Netflix. Is there another combo that people recommend that isn't a year and a half old and/or doesn't have issues with Silverlight? Am I just better off getting a more powerful machine?

Xenix fucked around with this message at 06:18 on Sep 7, 2012

blowingupcasinos
Feb 21, 2006
Is there any way to broadcast an HDMI signal from one room to another? I can't do a long HDMI cable because the whole reason I moved my desktop away from my TV to the bedroom was aesthetics. My desktop is like 25 feet away with a door inbetween. I really want to play games, but I also want to surf and email without waking up the lady...

Tedronai66
Aug 24, 2006
Better to Reign in Hell...

Xenix posted:

I was about to purchase a Zacate motherboard/cpu/gpu combo and then read that they don't work well with Netflix. Is there another combo that people recommend that isn't a year and a half old and/or doesn't have issues with Silverlight? Am I just better off getting a more powerful machine?
Probably better off getting a more powerful machine. The dual core ivy bridge CPUs just came out, I think they'd be good enough for Netflix, and there's a 35w variant.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend
I'm curious if anyone has tried out Steam Big Picture on their HTPC yet. I have my remote setup to do basic up/down/left/right/enter in windows, so I'm wondering how much I'll have to customize it. I have a gamepad I could use for navigation, but that pretty much stays in the corner unless I decide to play games.

Can you browse and buy games? Is it easy to read descriptions and stuff? I figure I'll install it sometime over the weekend to check it out myself.

berzerker
Aug 18, 2004
"If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."

blowingupcasinos posted:

Is there any way to broadcast an HDMI signal from one room to another? I can't do a long HDMI cable because the whole reason I moved my desktop away from my TV to the bedroom was aesthetics. My desktop is like 25 feet away with a door inbetween. I really want to play games, but I also want to surf and email without waking up the lady...

I don't get quite what you're asking for here. Some sort of wireless HDMI wire? The way to broadcast an HDMI signal from one room to another is an HDMI wire. Alternately, an HTPC in the other room. If you're just worried about waking her up, get some headphones and turn the monitor away from the bed.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

berzerker posted:

I don't get quite what you're asking for here. Some sort of wireless HDMI wire? The way to broadcast an HDMI signal from one room to another is an HDMI wire. Alternately, an HTPC in the other room. If you're just worried about waking her up, get some headphones and turn the monitor away from the bed.

There are plenty of wireless hdmi devices.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...wireless%20hdmi

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
Yes, wireless HDMI is getting more common. In the next few years you won't need HDMI cables at all to connect your HDTV to your BR player, they just need to be in close proximity to each other.

Bonzo fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Sep 11, 2012

blowingupcasinos
Feb 21, 2006
Ok, let me explain my situation. I recently had the lady move in and we moved the PC to the bedroom so we could have a real living room instead of a desk next to a TV. I would love to work on my PC when she's asleep, but I have a mechanical keyboard and that poo poo just doesn't work.

I'd love to have a wireless keyboard and mouse in the living room to do internet stuff on my TV. I thought about getting a home theater computer, but then I realized how expensive that would be compared to what I really want to do: use my regular computer.

So, yeah, I'm looking for wireless HDMI products that work - and work well. The only other option I was possibly thinking of was getting a Mac Mini and having the screen broadcasted to that. I know the Mac would be pretty expensive, but if it could help the fidelity and/or latency I'd be down. I've been meaning to get a Mac anyways...

TraderStav
May 19, 2006

It feels like I was standing my entire life and I just sat down
Really the only solution is to get a new lady that can hang.

berzerker
Aug 18, 2004
"If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."
Or a quieter wireless keyboard for when she's asleep. That's a $10 solution. Or earplugs for her. That's a 20 cent solution.

Yourlifesayshi
Dec 8, 2004
Can anybody recommend a streaming media player mainly for Netflix and Hulu? A web browser is essential as well. I was looking at the Logitech Revue, Apple TV and the Roku 2 XS. Originally, I was looking at building an HTPC but these $100 units are more in line with the features I am looking for and the price is significantly lower.

Also, do the Apple TV or the Roku support any type of webcam setup? The Logitech Revue has a webcam which would be nice.

This unit will not be used to record/encode anything, no blu-ray, no gaming. Only streaming Netflix, Hulu, Amazon video, Amazon shopping hopefully and a web browser are what I'm really interested in. This unit is not for me, by the way. I assume every unit has a connection to a major firm that sells newer media content that can be downloaded/streamed (itunes, Amazon, whatever the Microsoft service is called).

Thanks!

necrobobsledder
Mar 21, 2005
Lay down your soul to the gods rock 'n roll
Nap Ghost

TraderStav posted:

Really the only solution is to get a new lady that can hang.
Or how about..... sleeping with the lady instead of spending the time she's asleep on your computer banging away on a keyboard instead of her?

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

Yourlifesayshi posted:

Can anybody recommend a streaming media player mainly for Netflix and Hulu? A web browser is essential as well. I was looking at the Logitech Revue, Apple TV and the Roku 2 XS. Originally, I was looking at building an HTPC but these $100 units are more in line with the features I am looking for and the price is significantly lower.

Also, do the Apple TV or the Roku support any type of webcam setup? The Logitech Revue has a webcam which would be nice.

This unit will not be used to record/encode anything, no blu-ray, no gaming. Only streaming Netflix, Hulu, Amazon video, Amazon shopping hopefully and a web browser are what I'm really interested in. This unit is not for me, by the way. I assume every unit has a connection to a major firm that sells newer media content that can be downloaded/streamed (itunes, Amazon, whatever the Microsoft service is called).

Thanks!

I don't think Google TV boxes can do hulu, so thats out.

Roku and Apple tv dont have a web browser, those are out. Actually I dont know about appletv I just assume they don't have a web browser.

I mean even a PS3 that has all 3, the web browser is really, really lovely.

You don't have many good/real options aside from a HTPC. You can get a zotac "htpc"for $200 and up. I have a roku that I use for amazon/netflix video, and a $200 zotac machine I use for xbmc, web browsing that runs windows 7.

If this isn't for you, get them a roku and tell them to surf the internet on something else. It sounds cool to browse the web on your TV but its not that great.

kri kri fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Sep 13, 2012

bomblol
Jul 17, 2009

my first crapatar

necrobobsledder posted:

Or how about..... sleeping with the lady instead of spending the time she's asleep on your computer banging away on a keyboard instead of her?

Yes, as goons we have to constantly reaffirm our lack of self-confidence by literally devoting our entire existence to having as much sex as possible in every single instance, even when the other person doesn't want to or it's inconvenient. I thank god I am not in a relationship so I can spend the proper amount of time working on my HTPC, or else I would just spend all my spare time loving.

bomblol fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Sep 13, 2012

Yourlifesayshi
Dec 8, 2004

kri kri posted:

I don't think Google TV boxes can do hulu, so thats out.

Roku and Apple tv dont have a web browser, those are out. Actually I dont know about appletv I just assume they don't have a web browser.

I mean even a PS3 that has all 3, the web browser is really, really lovely.

You don't have many good/real options aside from a HTPC. You can get a zotac "htpc"for $200 and up. I have a roku that I use for amazon/netflix video, and a $200 zotac machine I use for xbmc, web browsing that runs windows 7.

If this isn't for you, get them a roku and tell them to surf the internet on something else. It sounds cool to browse the web on your TV but its not that great.

Apart from Hulu, is there any other objection to the Google TV? Netflix and Amazon video should be enough for the streaming video options.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

necrobobsledder posted:

Or how about..... sleeping with the lady instead of spending the time she's asleep on your computer banging away on a keyboard instead of her?

Single guy spotted.

Porkchop Express
Dec 24, 2009

Ten million years of absolute power. That's what it takes to be really corrupt.

Yourlifesayshi posted:

Apart from Hulu, is there any other objection to the Google TV? Netflix and Amazon video should be enough for the streaming video options.

The Revue is kind of clunky, I haven't even turned mine on because of that, as well as a lack of Hulu support. The netflix worked fine on it, but I just used my 360 for that. Honestly I would build a small basic HTPC since I think it works out better for all solutions, but if the cost isn't feesable for you, the Revue would probably work. (Note: if you want to watch local video files, I have yet to finds good solution for thay, so if that is at all part of your plans factor that in as well.)

Yourlifesayshi
Dec 8, 2004

Porkchop Express posted:

The Revue is kind of clunky, I haven't even turned mine on because of that, as well as a lack of Hulu support. The netflix worked fine on it, but I just used my 360 for that. Honestly I would build a small basic HTPC since I think it works out better for all solutions, but if the cost isn't feesable for you, the Revue would probably work. (Note: if you want to watch local video files, I have yet to finds good solution for thay, so if that is at all part of your plans factor that in as well.)

It's not so much the cost as much as accessibility and ease of use. This unit is for somebody much less computer savvy than the average SA forums member. The kind of person who would lose focus if I even tried to explain what it means to stream files over their own network. Basically, I'm just looking for the cheapest way to access a decent web browser and watch Netflix using an existing TV.

I have access to some partially-broken PCs so I will probably snag one of those and go the HTPC route. This thread has some guides in the first post so I will follow those.

Thanks for your help.

kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

If this is for a non-technical person I wouldn't even consider a htpc. Have they ever browser the internet on a tv?

A htpc isn't easy to use, even for technical people. I still vote Roku.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

Yourlifesayshi posted:

Can anybody recommend a streaming media player mainly for Netflix and Hulu? A web browser is essential as well. I was looking at the Logitech Revue, Apple TV and the Roku 2 XS. Originally, I was looking at building an HTPC but these $100 units are more in line with the features I am looking for and the price is significantly lower.

Also, do the Apple TV or the Roku support any type of webcam setup? The Logitech Revue has a webcam which would be nice.

This unit will not be used to record/encode anything, no blu-ray, no gaming. Only streaming Netflix, Hulu, Amazon video, Amazon shopping hopefully and a web browser are what I'm really interested in. This unit is not for me, by the way. I assume every unit has a connection to a major firm that sells newer media content that can be downloaded/streamed (itunes, Amazon, whatever the Microsoft service is called).

Thanks!

Get over wanting a web browser and get an AppleTV. A web browser that isn't poo poo is one of the things on the "do an HTPC if you really want it" list. The XBox360 is going to add one soon, but it's a pretty unknown quantity at this point.

berzerker
Aug 18, 2004
"If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all."

kri kri posted:

If this is for a non-technical person I wouldn't even consider a htpc. Have they ever browser the internet on a tv?

A htpc isn't easy to use, even for technical people. I still vote Roku.

Mine is super easy to use, and my less techy parents and brother use older versions I gave or built for them too. Setting them up takes a lot of effort, but afterwards it's extremely easy to use. To add movies, open browser, add to Couch Potato. To watch movies/tv, XBMC. For sports, open browser, to go Sports bookmark folder, choose appropriate streaming site.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend

TheScott2K posted:

Get over wanting a web browser and get an AppleTV. A web browser that isn't poo poo is one of the things on the "do an HTPC if you really want it" list. The XBox360 is going to add one soon, but it's a pretty unknown quantity at this point.

IE on the 360 is probably the best browser I've used on a TV. It's way better than the PS3's, and much easier to control than the Wii's. It's also extremely easy to use with a controller, although now that I think about it I should try with a remote as well. I haven't really tried any useful sites, though, just checked out the forums and played around a bit.

TheScott2K
Oct 26, 2003

I'm just saying, there's a nonzero chance Trump has a really toad penis.

EC posted:

IE on the 360 is probably the best browser I've used on a TV. It's way better than the PS3's, and much easier to control than the Wii's. It's also extremely easy to use with a controller, although now that I think about it I should try with a remote as well. I haven't really tried any useful sites, though, just checked out the forums and played around a bit.

Has the beta gone out yet? I'm supposed to be in on that. This is what I get for not turning on my 360 enough.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend

TheScott2K posted:

Has the beta gone out yet? I'm supposed to be in on that. This is what I get for not turning on my 360 enough.

Yep, there's been several updates to it as well.

retro sexual
Mar 14, 2005
I'd like to get a media box for my TV that does storage + playback (rather than streaming). The ready to go options seem to only be about streaming (eg appletv, roku). I'd really like one box to do it all. Any recommendations?

Alfajor
Jun 10, 2005

The delicious snack cake.
If you want build your own, a pretty good guide is here: http://assassinhtpcblog.com/
I'm going to start piecing together something based off of some of the suggestions there.

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kri kri
Jul 18, 2007

retro sexual posted:

I'd like to get a media box for my TV that does storage + playback (rather than streaming). The ready to go options seem to only be about streaming (eg appletv, roku). I'd really like one box to do it all. Any recommendations?

There is no box that does it all, or at least well. You could get a Boxee which does netflix and local playback but it has quite a few negatives.

I use a hptc with XBMC and a Roku for netflix and amazon video. Just look at my past posts in this thread.

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