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crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Midorka posted:

I normally love Great Divide, but man Wolfgang is a really unremarkable Dopplebock. The malt is far too heavy giving a very caramel and toffee body even approaching a burn toffee on the finish with only hints of grapes and red apples. This is borderline syrupy and just too malty, I'll stick with Troegenator.

Ayinger Celebrator is the one true doppelbock champion.

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RocketMermaid
Mar 30, 2004

My pronouns are She/Heir.


danbanana posted:

This might be the only nice thing I can say about Black Tuesday: maybe if I let it sit for a few years it won't be so... Brewdog.

Seconding this. I split a bottle of Black Tuesday with Kosher Man and a few other folks at Thanksgiving last year, and all of us thought it was loving vile. It was like drinking acrid, syrupy jet fuel - basically, every undesirable flavor you could get from brewing something super-high-alcohol with a ton of roasted malt. None of us could finish a glass, and by the time we all said "uncle" a good 2/3 of the bottle still sat there. Maybe it was a bad bottle, maybe it just needed a few years worth of aging... but with as many good imperial stouts as there are out there, I don't feel the need to go back to it.

I might be going to GABF with Goose Island this year, but that depends on how many people the marketing department will fund going. I'm on the short list for extra people if they let more in. Keeping my fingers crossed, because I'd love to go and see a bunch of my Siebel classmates again.

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


funkybottoms posted:

just to be clear, i was talking about Oude Tart (there was a different picture up). both times i've had Oude Tart and Red Poppy were at tastings featuring numerous sour beers, so order might've had something to do with it, but Red Poppy really stood out for me (although OT is delicious, too)
Oops, yeah. Oude Tart is very tasty but I do prefer a good year of Poppy over it.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.
All this imperial stout talk is making me sad I failed to secure any bottles of Parabola at all this year.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Angry Grimace posted:

All this imperial stout talk is making me sad I failed to secure any bottles of Parabola at all this year.

I think there's a few left at a store I could trade you for one.

I Dont Like You
Jul 6, 2003

Angry Grimace posted:

All this imperial stout talk is making me sad I failed to secure any bottles of Parabola at all this year.

I really need to get around to trying this sometime, wish that Wisconsin got some Firestone love. Also, all this stout talk reminds me that I still need to crack open my bottle of Central Waters 1414 soon.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

I Dont Like You posted:

Also, all this stout talk reminds me that I still need to crack open my bottle of Central Waters 1414 soon.

Grrr... Sending you a PM.

Whodat Smith-Jones
Apr 16, 2007

My name is Buck, and I'm here to fuck
This has probably been discussed, so I'm sorry if that's the case, but how do you folks ship beers to ensure they arrive at their destinations safely when you're trading or sending to friends? Just a whole bunch of bubble wrap? Any kinds of boxes that work particularly well? I know that's probably a dumb question.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
Imagine a big revolver barrel made of styrofoam that holds beer bottles. Now imagine it's actually a rectangle about the size of a case of beer. No idea where to find them, though.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
I tend to use thick-walled boxes of whatever size holds the bottles with room for judicious amounts of bubble-wrap. I don't like packing peanuts, since the bottles tend to settle during shipping and bang against one-another.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Splizwarf posted:

Imagine a big revolver barrel made of styrofoam that holds beer bottles. Now imagine it's actually a rectangle about the size of a case of beer. No idea where to find them, though.

The OP of the Goon Beer eXchange thread here in GWS has a good overview of shipping. U-Haul sells these wine shippers which also work fine for bombers and especially 750's of beer.

When we did a goon homebrew swap last year, my shipment arrived in a normal cardboard box. Each bottle was wrapped in an assload of bubble wrap then sealed 3 at a time into gallon(?) ziplock bags. These were layered up a few deep and any excess space had newspaper or more bubblewrap shoved in. Worked beautifully, those babies were drat near indestructible.

As an aside, don't be a loving goonlord and tell UPS it's "yeast samples" or something when they ask what's in the box. I just called it glassware and they let it on through.

Docjowles fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Sep 5, 2012

Whodat Smith-Jones
Apr 16, 2007

My name is Buck, and I'm here to fuck

Docjowles posted:

The OP of the Goon Beer eXchange thread here in GWS has a good overview of shipping. U-Haul sells these wine shippers which also work fine for bombers and especially 750's of beer.

When we did a goon homebrew swap last year, my shipment arrived in a normal cardboard box. Each bottle was wrapped in an assload of bubble wrap then sealed 3 at a time into gallon(?) ziplock bags. These were layered up a few deep and any excess space had newspaper or more bubblewrap shoved in. Worked beautifully, those babies were drat near indestructible.

As an aside, don't be a loving goonlord and tell UPS it's "yeast samples" or something when they ask what's in the box. I just called it glassware and they let it on through.

Great. I'll take a look at that. Thanks.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Whodat Smith-Jones posted:

Great. I'll take a look at that. Thanks.

I've only shipped a couple times, but I also duct-tape a gently caress ton around the caps. Given that I'd expect lots of banging, pressure changes, etc., I hope that this will at least contain a leak if a seal does break. Not too confident it would prevent that, but it should prevent 22 oz of beer to soak through the box.

Casual Yogurt
Jul 1, 2005

Cool tricks kid, I like your style.
I've been out of the game for the past 3 months traveling around Asia, drinking nothing but terrible lagers. I get back next week...whats new that I can ask someone to pick up for me? I'm in the SF bay area. I would ask just to get some IPA but I'd rather get something that has been released recently to ensure freshness.

nah
Mar 16, 2009

As far as awful GABF goon meetups sound, CCB and Green Flash are having a big tap takeover at Falling Rock on Friday of that week. We'll be bringing a pretty crazy assortment of kegs for it. So yeah, go to that.

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

XxGirlKisserxX posted:

As far as awful GABF goon meetups sound, CCB and Green Flash are having a big tap takeover at Falling Rock on Friday of that week. We'll be bringing a pretty crazy assortment of kegs for it. So yeah, go to that.

Eeeee!

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer
I picked up a bottle of Pumking and Port Brewery Midnight Expression yesterday; I'm pretty excited to try them this weekend. This is my first pumpkin beer and it seems to be one of the better ones to try. I'm trying to expand my beer horizons beyond pale ales. I am going to pick up a bottle of a sour of some type for my buddy's Oktoberfest party in a month to share with some people. Any goons have recommendations under $10 per bomber? I'm in the Chicago area.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

americanzero4128 posted:

I picked up a bottle of Pumking and Port Brewery Midnight Expression yesterday; I'm pretty excited to try them this weekend. This is my first pumpkin beer and it seems to be one of the better ones to try. I'm trying to expand my beer horizons beyond pale ales. I am going to pick up a bottle of a sour of some type for my buddy's Oktoberfest party in a month to share with some people. Any goons have recommendations under $10 per bomber? I'm in the Chicago area.

Rodenbach Grand Cru is basically your only option for a 10 dollar sour bomber/750. Luckily, it's pretty drat good.

SnowDog
Oct 26, 2004

Midorka posted:

Edit: Back on Southern Tier, I love their Harvest Ale. I know it's not a harvest ale like you guys are talking about above, but I love it.

Just found some of this, and opened a bottle tonight. Loving it.

Between this and Peak's Summit Ale, plenty of hoppy fall beers to complement all the silly Oktoberfests I can't stop buying.

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

Just drinking Ballast Point Sculpin for the first time now. Hard for me to imagine a better single IPA -- just wish I had more than two bottles on hand.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

americanzero4128 posted:

Any goons have recommendations under $10 per bomber? I'm in the Chicago area.

New Belgium's La Folie, which is pretty much a Rodenbach clone

Cointelprofessional
Jul 2, 2007
Carrots: Make me an offer.

funkybottoms posted:

New Belgium's La Folie, which is pretty much a Rodenbach clone

Yes, try and find the '10 if you can. The '11 isn't as good.

Also try the Cuvee Des Jacobins Rouge. It's in 375s, but it's the same price.

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!

blah_blah posted:

Just drinking Ballast Point Sculpin for the first time now. Hard for me to imagine a better single IPA -- just wish I had more than two bottles on hand.

Sculpin is really great, I just wish it was a bit more affordable. In my area it costs $15/6, or $9/bomber. Luckily, I live in OH and there's two very similar single IPAs which cost $10/4 and $11/6.

Does anyone know what hops Sculpin is brewed with? It tastes very Citra-y to me, although I'm pretty sure there's other hops (or hop combinations?) which give off similar aroma/taste.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

americanzero4128 posted:

I picked up a bottle of Pumking and Port Brewery Midnight Expression yesterday; I'm pretty excited to try them this weekend. This is my first pumpkin beer and it seems to be one of the better ones to try. I'm trying to expand my beer horizons beyond pale ales. I am going to pick up a bottle of a sour of some type for my buddy's Oktoberfest party in a month to share with some people. Any goons have recommendations under $10 per bomber? I'm in the Chicago area.

La Folie is $15 everywhere I've seen it in Chicago, so it doesn't fit the <$10/750 qualification, but in truth I don't think you're going to find many good sours that do.

Count me against Rodenbach Grand Cru though. It's pretty acetic and I had trouble finishing the 750 I bought for myself, and I don't think it would make for a good first sour. I like Lindeman's Gueuze around the $11/750 price point. Lindeman's fruit lambics are awful, so no one seems to take notice that their Gueuze is actually pretty drat good for the price.

Also, being in Chicago, you've got access to Jolly Pumpkin. Some of their beer can get a little pricey, but their excellent sour golden ale Oro De Calabaza should be around $10-$11/750 at most stores where you can find it.

crazyfish fucked around with this message at 05:35 on Sep 7, 2012

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

e: If you're in Chicago, check out Jolly Pumpkin La Roja. It was my first sour and still an absolute favorite. I seem to recall it being somewhere in the $12-13 range.


Kudosx posted:

Sculpin is really great, I just wish it was a bit more affordable. In my area it costs $15/6, or $9/bomber. Luckily, I live in OH and there's two very similar single IPAs which cost $10/4 and $11/6.

Does anyone know what hops Sculpin is brewed with? It tastes very Citra-y to me, although I'm pretty sure there's other hops (or hop combinations?) which give off similar aroma/taste.
Amarillo, simcoe, centennial late hops, northern brewer and crystal 30ish range, magnum and warrior bittering hops. Simcoe and amarillo dry hop.

Supposedly, anyway.

Sculpin is pretty high on my list as far as perfect IPA goes, but I'm in OH too and it's just way too expensive (and drinkable, which makes it feel like even more of a waste).
I get the feeling that one of the two IPA's you're talking about as a replacement is a Brew Kettle beer.

Hypnolobster fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Sep 7, 2012

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

I think he's ready for a chair
Dozens of bottles of ~1/6/12 Sculpin are still on the shelves in every liquor store in my city and surrounding areas. It really annoys me, I really want to get another fresh bottle

BoredByThis
Jul 13, 2001

Watch out! I'll attract you too!
White Raja should be on everyone's list of an amazing drinkable affordable IPA. It's easily up there with Two Hearted and Sculpin for me, unfortunately I can only get one of those three regularly. Chicago does have its drawbacks.

Wamsutta
Sep 9, 2001

Sculpin only makes it to one bottle shop near me, and they've run out and told me they don't expect more for a while. That makes me super sad. It's probably the best IPA I've ever had, and if I could buy it fresh and regularly, I would. The only east coast beer I'd compare it to would be Flower Power, which thankfully, I can get in abundance.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

I think he's ready for a chair

Wamsutta posted:

Sculpin only makes it to one bottle shop near me, and they've run out and told me they don't expect more for a while. That makes me super sad. It's probably the best IPA I've ever had, and if I could buy it fresh and regularly, I would. The only east coast beer I'd compare it to would be Flower Power, which thankfully, I can get in abundance.

I never see Flower Power these days, I've heard they've had production problems since they've started moving breweries.

Angry Grimace
Jul 29, 2010

ACTUALLY IT IS VERY GOOD THAT THE SHOW IS BAD AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T REALIZE WHY THAT'S GOOD IS AN IDIOT. JUST ENJOY THE BAD SHOW INSTEAD OF THINKING.

Kudosx posted:

Sculpin is really great, I just wish it was a bit more affordable. In my area it costs $15/6, or $9/bomber. Luckily, I live in OH and there's two very similar single IPAs which cost $10/4 and $11/6.

Does anyone know what hops Sculpin is brewed with? It tastes very Citra-y to me, although I'm pretty sure there's other hops (or hop combinations?) which give off similar aroma/taste.

I'm pretty sure* Sculpin's original recipe was being kicked around before Citra even came out.

My understanding is that its some completely insane mix of hops; the recipes I've seen for the original North Star IPA (the home brew recipe they tweaked into Sculpin) has like 10 hop additions and 7 varieties. No clue if that's what's actually in it.

Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Sep 7, 2012

IllIllIll
Feb 17, 2012
So I'm going to be studying abroad in Spain for the next three months. I know the town in staying in, Valladolid, has a reputation for good wine, but I know absolutely nothing about Spanish beer. Never even heard of such a thing. Is there anything good I should look out for? What kind of stuff can I expect to see in the bars or tapas bars? Doesn't have to be Spanish in origin necessarily, I'm sure theres plenty of other European brews around.

In other news, I tried Chimay Grande Reserve (blue) yesterday. Wow. Amazingly complex fruits (banana even?) and it was just so perfectly balanced. Are the red and white offerings as good?

consensual poster
Sep 1, 2009

Chicago Goons: looks like Upright brewing is doing an event at Bangers & Lace tonight. If you are into Saisons, I would highly recommend checking them out. Unfortunately, they are not pouring any of their regular seasonal beers, but they will have all 4 of their year round beers plus two one-offs.

RocketMermaid
Mar 30, 2004

My pronouns are She/Heir.


Perfectly Cromulent posted:

Chicago Goons: looks like Upright brewing is doing an event at Bangers & Lace tonight. If you are into Saisons, I would highly recommend checking them out. Unfortunately, they are not pouring any of their regular seasonal beers, but they will have all 4 of their year round beers plus two one-offs.

I really wish I could be at this, but I'm working. :( And my old Siebel classmate Bobby is representing Upright, too.

deong
Jun 13, 2001

I'll see you in heck!
Not sure if you Denver goons have already heard about this, but looks like Crooked Stave will be expanding further.
The article is more about restaurants than beers but..

Eater.com posted:

http://denver.eater.com/archives/2012/09/05/denvers-most-anticipated-restaurant-openings.php
The Source
Address:3350 Brighton Blvd.
Major Player(s): Developer Kyle Zeppelin, Rayme Rossello of Comida Cantina, Chad Yakoboson of Crooked Stave, and other TBA tenants.
The Scoop: The Source — a beer, meat, retail, cheese, bakery, coffee community — will take form inside an old and tarnished warehouse on Brighton Boulevard, which is just minutes away from Zeppelin's Taxi development. The urban market will feature two restaurants (Comida Cantina #2 confirmed, the other TBA), a Crooked Stave Artisan Beer brewing pilot system, a butcher, a coffee roaster, a distillery, and a couple retail outlets.
Projected Opening Date: Early 2013

Captain Shortbus
May 14, 2011

Trying Goose Island's Belgians for the first time tonight. Matilda is nice and drinkable. Juliet will probably have to wait for tomorrow. I have to make room for the Box 'O Stouts I got from Funkybottoms today. :neckbeard:

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
Edmund Fitz: as good as I remembered. I just want a direct pipeline of Great Lakes from Ohio to Louisiana and into my mouth. I think it'd be a far better capital investment than the Keystone pipeline.

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

BoredByThis posted:

White Raja should be on everyone's list of an amazing drinkable affordable IPA. It's easily up there with Two Hearted and Sculpin for me, unfortunately I can only get one of those three regularly. Chicago does have its drawbacks.

I'm Canadian, please don't complain :(

bartolimu
Nov 25, 2002


San Diego-area beer nerds, Churchill's is doing a sourfest next Saturday. 4- or 10-oz pours depending on rarity of beer, and there are plenty of amazing things:

quote:

Preliminary draft list is as follows:
Allagash Confluence 2010
Anchorage Galaxy Aged in Wine Barrels w/ Brett
Ballast Point Sour Wench Cask special version #1
Ballast Point Sour Wench Cask special version #2
Bear Republic Cuvee de Bubba 2011
Bear Republic TarTare 2011
BFM Abbaye De Saint Bon Chien Grand Cru (Bourbon Barrel)
BFM Abbaye De Saint Bon Chien Grand Cru (Pommeau Barrel)
Birrificio Del Ducato My Blueberry Nightmare (Barrel Aged 3 yrs)
Bootlegger’s Something Sour (Barrel Aged)
Cascade Pater
Cascade Honey Ginger Lime
Cascade Apricot
Cascade Barrel Aged Bruin
Cascade Live Barrel: Strawberry
Cascade Live Barrel: Elderberry Crisp
Cascade Live Barrel:Orange Sherbert
Cascade Live Barrel: Bourbon Barrel Fruit Blend
Craftsman El Prieto 2011
Craftsman Ochre
Drie Fonteinen Zwet..be
Evil Twin/Jolly Pumpkin Ron and the Beast Ryan
Firestone Double DBA Lambicus
Green Flash Barrel Aged Little Freak
Hair of the Dog/De Proef Flanders Fred
Inland Empire Barrel Aged Sour Ale
Jolly Pumpkin Luciernaga 2010
Karl Strauss Queen of Tarts
Lagunitas Farmhouse Gueuze
Logsdon Seizoen Bretta
Lost Abbey Cuvee de Tomme
Lost Abbey Framboise de Amorosa
Lost Abbey Mo Betta Bretta
Lost Abbey Red Poppy
Lost Abbey Churchill’s Finest Sour
LoverBeer Barrel Aged D’Uva
Monkey Paw Gose
New Belgium Kick 2011
New Belgium La Folie 2010
New Belgium Tart Lychee
Ommegang Aphrodite 2011
Professor Fritz 1809 Berliner Weisse aged w/ Brett
Russian River Consecration #4 2009
Russian River Sanctification 2011
Russian River Supplication 2010
Russian River Supplication 2012
Russian River Temptation 2011
The Bruery Tart of Darkness
The Bruery Oude Tart
Tilquin Gueuzerie Oud Gueuze

Bottle Pours so far:
Avery Sui Generie
Bruery Oude Tart 2010
Bruery Tart of Darkness 2011
Cantillon Gueuze
Cascade Sang Noir
Cascade Blueberry
Cascade Figaro
De Ranke Cuvee De Ranke
Deschutes/Hair of the Dog Conflux #1
Drie Fonteinen Oude Kriek
Hanssens Oude Kriek
Hanssens Oude Gueuze
Jolly Pumpkin/Maui Sobre Humano Barrel Aged
Mikkeller SpontanKriek
Mikkeller SpontanWildStrawberry
Russian River Consecration batch #2
Sierra nevada/Russian River Brux
Rodenbach Vintage 2008
Look. Look at all of those Cascades in one place. So many other good things too. If you're in the area, it's really not to be missed. If you're not in the area, it's worth the drive. If you need further incentive, Lost Abbey is releasing Track 9 that same day.

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!

Hypnolobster posted:

I get the feeling that one of the two IPA's you're talking about as a replacement is a Brew Kettle beer.

Indeed, it is! White Rajah is such a great beer. The other beer I was talking about is Head Hunter. White Rajah is a bit cheaper, but Head Hunter is much more readily available nowadays (in my area anyway), so it's been my go-to for the past two months or so.

BoredByThis posted:

White Raja should be on everyone's list of an amazing drinkable affordable IPA. It's easily up there with Two Hearted and Sculpin for me, unfortunately I can only get one of those three regularly. Chicago does have its drawbacks.

Unfortunately for most people, White Rajah is only distributed in bottles around OH (That I know of...). That's okay though, because other people get great beers which we're not able to get in OH, so it sets up great trade opportunities.


When the weather outside gets a bit cooler I'm going to try to get some trades going on with other beer goons, so I can try to spread the White Rajah/Head Hunter love to some places other than OH!

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wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???

bartolimu posted:

San Diego-area beer nerds, Churchill's is doing a sourfest next Saturday. 4- or 10-oz pours depending on rarity of beer, and there are plenty of amazing things:

Look. Look at all of those Cascades in one place. So many other good things too. If you're in the area, it's really not to be missed. If you're not in the area, it's worth the drive. If you need further incentive, Lost Abbey is releasing Track 9 that same day.

I won't be able to go, but PLEASE try the Cascade Orange Sherbert so I can drink vicariously through you.

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