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Jonny Quest posted:They'll cart your butt to work just fine and swallow your weekend Costco run with ease. Have kids? Strollers slide in no problem. Golf clubs, too. Compared to an equal sized SUV they won't tip over, will get better mileage, handle better as the COG is lower, and the ride quality is usually better. They can be fast and nimble like a sports car, haul everything a small pickup truck can (minus dirt, but with some creative use of tarps...), and look drat good doing it. What's not to like? Also, dogs
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The first car company that can make a desirable sporty minivan will make a fortune.
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Jonny Quest posted:haul everything a small pickup truck can (minus dirt, but with some creative use of tarps...) Honestly, something like a BMW 335i Touring is a good contender for "only car you'll ever need".
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grover posted:The first car company that can make a desirable sporty minivan will make a fortune. 
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Super Aggro Crag posted:What the hell does Earth Dreams Technology mean? I thought it died after Honda bailed F1.  Also: That Mondeo/Fusion wagon is gorgeous. Keyser_Soze fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Sep 8, 2012 |
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Sep 8, 2012 18:01
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fknlo posted:Glad those new Golf pictures didn't make me regret my recent purchase of a 2013 TDI. Hopefully they can keep the quality up and not take it the same route of the mk6 Jetta. I've had a mkII gas, mkIV diesel and now a mkVI diesel, all manual, and drat if this new generation doesn't make me want to break the cycle and buy an odd-numbered Golf. Hopefully the next one will come out in 2020 when we're due for a re-up. Also re: wagonchat, this weekend I'm picking up a turbo AWD wagon  ninjaedit: with a manual 
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grover posted:The first car company that can make a desirable sporty minivan will make a fortune. Dunno, the super-tall part of a minivan is pretty hard to balance with the sporty part. That road's been paved mostly with disappointment, it seems:  I'd settle for a midsized 3 row or 2.5 row (jump seats) station wagon.
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Bob NewSCART posted:Very true, when is that mazda wagon slated for release? I don't think Mazda is planning the wagon for USA release. quote:"There are no plans to bring the Mazda 6 wagon to the U.S.," wrote Jeremy Barnes, a Mazda North American Operations spokesman in response to an e-mailed query from Edmunds.
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Figures.
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Cream_Filling posted:Dunno, the super-tall part of a minivan is pretty hard to balance with the sporty part. That road's been paved mostly with disappointment, it seems: I don't think you'll see too many rear facing jump seats anymore due to safety regulations.
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^^^ See below! Cream_Filling posted:Dunno, the super-tall part of a minivan is pretty hard to balance with the sporty part. That road's been paved mostly with disappointment, it seems: Good news!  or 
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mobby_6kl posted:^^^ The Mazda wagon still has way more chance of coming to market than those things.
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While it's not a wagon, here's another thing that pisses me off that it won't make it here, the Volvo V40: It's also one of the safest cars ever tested by the European counterpart to the NHTSA. root beer fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Sep 8, 2012 |
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Pseudonym posted:While it's not a wagon, here's another thing that pisses me off that it won't make it here, the Volvo V40: That's pretty ugly.
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davebo posted:Ford Mondeo/Fusion wagon for Europe. This isn't getting enough love. drat that looks beautiful for a wagon. PLEASE come to the U.S.!
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InitialDave posted:Honestly, something like a BMW 335i Touring is a good contender for "only car you'll ever need". 
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MrEnigma posted:The sedan for a short time (at least) had the 6-speed as well. 2006-2009 at least. Not sure about the new ones. The Challenger/Charger are like 6 inches longer than the current Accord and come much closer to a 50/50 weight balance. The current gen accord is definitely a whale. Mustang is smaller than the Accord coupe while we're at it. The 2002-2005 era was a smaller coupe, made more sense I think.
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V6 accord coupes are extremely overpriced. You can get a fully loaded mustang v6 for about $5000 cheaper than an accord. More horsepower/torque, RWD, better handling, premium interior on the mustang is equal if not better than the accords, and the mileage is actually pretty similar. coolskillrex remix fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Sep 8, 2012 |
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grover posted:The first car company that can make a desirable sporty minivan will make a fortune.  Its pretty much a 6 seat Accord wagon. Pity about performance though, the 2.4 struggles even in the current Accord. InitialDave posted:I just checked BMW UK's website, and there is no longer a 335i option for the 3-series Touring. Top-end engine options are 328i or 330d. I think it'd be pretty hard to be disappointed with a 330d (and usually I strongly dislike diesels)
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Pseudonym posted:While it's not a wagon, here's another thing that pisses me off that it won't make it here, the Volvo V40:
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coolskillrex remix posted:V6 accord coupes are extremely overpriced. You can get a fully loaded mustang v6 for about $5000 cheaper than an accord. More horsepower/torque, RWD, better handling, premium interior on the mustang is equal if not better than the accords, and the mileage is actually pretty similar. Yeah but how many people looking at Accords are going to cross shop a Mustang?
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It's the same chassis as the last-gen European Focus, C1 as opposed to the new Focus' Global C platform. So, if you want that car in the US the Mazda 3 hatch is your answer.
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grover posted:The first car company that can make a desirable sporty minivan will make a fortune.  http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2011/02/23/the-fc-150-van-now-in-color/
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Cream_Filling posted:The Mazda wagon still has way more chance of coming to market than those things. The Model S is on the market and some buyers have theirs.
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So, the new Range Rover, the L405 model, has been revealed. And it's a 500bhp, aluminium-monocoque, 150mph, five-seconds-to-sixty SUV that's nine hundred pounds lighter than the old one (but will still tow nearly eight thousand), with almost twelve inches of ground clearance and a stock wading depth of three feet. Jesus Christ.  
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InitialDave posted:So, the new Range Rover, the L405 model, has been revealed. And it's a 500bhp, aluminium-monocoque, 150mph, five-seconds-to-sixty SUV that's nine hundred pounds lighter than the old one (but will still tow nearly eight thousand), with almost twelve inches of ground clearance and a stock wading depth of three feet.  is pretty much all I have to say
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Holy crap that looks nice. How much is it going to cost, though?
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grover posted:Holy crap that looks nice. How much is it going to cost, though? A lot, and the people that can afford them will never use them like that.
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grover posted:Holy crap that looks nice. How much is it going to cost, though?
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Left Ventricle posted:It's on the same platform as the Focus, so in a sense, we already have that car. Q_res posted:It's the same chassis as the last-gen European Focus, C1 as opposed to the new Focus' Global C platform. So, if you want that car in the US the Mazda 3 hatch is your answer. Oh, my mistake, I thought for some reason that the platform was a new one since Volvo is no longer owned by Ford, but didn't realize they were still able to use it. Oh well.
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InitialDave posted:So, the new Range Rover, the L405 model, has been revealed. And it's a 500bhp, aluminium-monocoque, 150mph, five-seconds-to-sixty SUV that's nine hundred pounds lighter than the old one (but will still tow nearly eight thousand), with almost twelve inches of ground clearance and a stock wading depth of three feet. Now that's thinking ahead! When global warming finishes melting all the ice in the world and causes the Thames to flood half of Chelsea, you'll need that wading depth just to get from your kid's Montessori school to your yoga class!
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grover posted:The first car company that can make a desirable sporty minivan will make a fortune. Everyone always forgets about the 5. 
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Y'all do understand what the words "sporty" and "desirable" mean, right?
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InitialDave posted:aluminium-monocoque
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hedge posted:I'm sure they thought of this and tested everything, but is anyone else concerned about durability of this off road? What makes you think anyone has ever been concerned about the durability of any Land Rover product anywhere, on or off road? I was listening to this week's Autoline Afterhours and it was just casually mentioned that no "legit", as in governed by the state insurance regulator, extended warranty company will warranty any Land Rover product. The potential repair costs are apparently at a point where there's just no money to be made in it. 
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Throatwarbler posted:What makes you think anyone has ever been concerned about the durability of any Land Rover product anywhere, on or off road? True story, at our shop we had a Land Rover towed in without wheels. Someone stole the OEM ones right off it and as an insurance claim they decided that they would only replace the OEM wheels and not pay out the money for the owner to buy other wheels, i.e. suspicion that he 'stole' them himself for the money payout to buy aftermarket rims and then 're-acquire' OEM ones for winter tire use. It took Land Rover 6 months to ship us a new replacement set while it sat on blocks the entire time. I guess the British had to re-invent the wheel or something. The guy bought a Hummer right after he was informed of this apparently and sold the thing immediately after we put the rims on. Moral of the story - if you want to piss off a Land Rover owner, don't slash his tires. Steal them! You'll cause him way more agony this way.
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InitialDave posted:So, the new Range Rover, the L405 model... gently caress me sideways, that is a drat nice automobile. 
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SouthLAnd posted:gently caress me sideways, that is a drat nice automobile. It's similar to previous Range Rovers in that the only real drawback on paper is the fuel economy. But that doesn't take reliability and servicing costs into account. Not to mention that you'll automatically be linked to the Chelsea tractor poseur SUV crowd.
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Cobb has a Focus ST for tuning. Their baseline dyno runs showed 224.7 hp, 283 ft.-lb. at the wheels from the factory (average of three runs) with a strange hp dip at 5300 rpm. http://fordstnation.com/focus-st-performance/1679-cobb-tunings-focus-st-info-status-dyno-results-etc.html
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First drive of the SRT Viper: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/1209_2013_srt_viper_first_drive/ Looks like the new car is everything it's touted to be, massively increased comfort and refinement with better performance.
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