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Well, that's disappointing about the Focus. Edit: Wait, no, I misread it. Less than 15% drivetrain loss? Not bad at all. Warcabbit fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Sep 10, 2012 |
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More than likely under rated from the factory.
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Sep 10, 2012 18:25
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And that torque number is insane, no? Lines up with what some auto journos said about the still-present torque steer, even with all sorts of gizmos to try and kill it.
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Sep 10, 2012 18:32
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Endless Mike posted:Cobb has a Focus ST for tuning. Their baseline dyno runs showed 224.7 hp, 283 ft.-lb. at the wheels from the factory (average of three runs) with a strange hp dip at 5300 rpm. I had to check because that seems like more torque than was advertised. Looks like they only advertise 270 ft-lbs so that's a pretty nice bump.
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Sep 10, 2012 18:34
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Yay, the dude on that forum who works in the factory says ST3s are scheduled to start production Oct. 1 and ship two weeks later. I might have my car before November!
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Sep 10, 2012 19:08
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I've been drooling over that focus st since I found out about it. So much for so little. I've been rolling around in suv land (parent's old car, can't say no to free) so long I'm having some kind of weird rebound lusting after minis and abarths and focuses. I want it small, turboed yet strangely practical.
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Sep 10, 2012 22:35
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Is the ST2 stereo really worth it? I mean, two grand... geez. But it's the part of the car that gets the most use... Well, it does, I have a 30 mile each way commute.
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Sep 11, 2012 01:53
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Endless Mike posted:Cobb has a Focus ST for tuning. Their baseline dyno runs showed 224.7 hp, 283 ft.-lb. at the wheels from the factory (average of three runs) with a strange hp dip at 5300 rpm. Just so that people don't need to register to see the dyno (like I had to).  286 ft.lbs TO THE WHEELS until 4500 RPMs. That is pretty incredible for such a small engine. These bad-boys are almost certainly going to put down around 320ft.lbs with a tune.
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Sep 11, 2012 03:40
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Warcabbit posted:Is the ST2 stereo really worth it? I mean, two grand... geez. But it's the part of the car that gets the most use... ST2 is more than a stereo... Recaro seats for starters.
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Sep 11, 2012 05:28
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Warcabbit posted:Is the ST2 stereo really worth it? I mean, two grand... geez. But it's the part of the car that gets the most use... I have the upgraded Sony stereo in my Fusion and I love it. Haven't ever thought once about changing anything with it. I used to do the car audio stuff in my teens, but now I'm in my 30's and just want poo poo to work right. I've found it to be a very nice system. Plenty of bass, plenty of power.
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discstickers posted:ST2 is more than a stereo... Recaro seats for starters. Yeah, you definitely want the Recaros.
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Sep 11, 2012 11:30
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oRenj9 posted:Just so that people don't need to register to see the dyno (like I had to). That said, there's some concern that the turbo is about at its limit as-is, so no one's quite sure what it'll be capable of.
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http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/11/2012-tesla-model-s-first-drive-review-video So the first couple Tesla Model S have been delivered to customers. This is the first real write-up I've seen about one. The Roadster was a Lotus with an electric drivetrain jammed in, which doesn't really prove that Tesla is able to put together a car. I like the looks of the production Model S a ton, it looks like a Jag crossed with a Panamera, but good. It's a good thing that they have a gigantic power option, because 4,647 lbs is quite porky, even for a full size sedan.
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Tekne posted:First drive of the SRT Viper: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/1209_2013_srt_viper_first_drive/ I really wish they wouldn't have messed with the styling on the front end of the car as much as they did. It looks pretty boring now.
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Sep 12, 2012 18:05
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250 units sounds about right: http://jalopnik.com/5942712/volvo-is-actually-building-a-small-hot-rod-for-us-americans If these don't sell out, I'll sneer even harder at the "I'd buy a diesel manual AWD X for sure!" types.
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Cream_Filling posted:I've never quite understood why anyone would buy a Honda Accord coupe. The sedan, I get it: you need decent reliable transportation with more room than a compact car. But why the coupe? It doesn't even look that much better and it's cutting into the half the point of an Accord - it's bigger than a Civic or competing midsize sedans. If I wanted a cheap giant boat of a coupe, I'd buy a Dodge Challenger or a pony car, which actually look cool and have more power. The Accord coupe I think was meant to replace the Prelude, even though they were sold alongside each other for over a decade.
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kimbo305 posted:250 units sounds about right: Hey, I always said that is the Focus ST came out here, I'd get one. It's out, and I'm getting one. They just have to hurry up and build the damned thing.
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Sep 13, 2012 13:26
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Weinertron posted:http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/11/2012-tesla-model-s-first-drive-review-video
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assfucker420 posted:The Accord coupe I think was meant to replace the Prelude, even though they were sold alongside each other for over a decade. I think the S2000 was more of a replacement for the Prelude.
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assfucker420 posted:The Accord coupe I think was meant to replace the Prelude, even though they were sold alongside each other for over a decade. What time period are we talking about here? Pre-80s? The Accord coupe's been sold in the US since at least the 80s. Not to mention the fact that the 80s Accords are so radically different from the modern ones that they're basically similar in name only. And the current Accord coupe is like a full foot longer than the last Prelude, so honestly the comparison really doesn't hold anymore.
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oRenj9 posted:I think the S2000 was more of a replacement for the Prelude. I think the S2000 was more of a replacement for the S600.
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Weinertron posted:http://www.autoblog.com/2012/09/11/2012-tesla-model-s-first-drive-review-video
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kimbo305 posted:250 units sounds about right: I'd buy one... if I could even afford the payments, let alone the insurance...
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Faerunner posted:I'd buy one... if I could even afford the payments, let alone the insurance... I've got to say this is the first Volvo I've been intrigued by. It doesn't help that I've been DDing a turbo hatch for the last few weeks. How's life outside of SAABland? 
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Viggen posted:I've got to say this is the first Volvo I've been intrigued by. It doesn't help that I've been DDing a turbo hatch for the last few weeks. How's life outside of SAABland? Our Forester is awesome, but I mostly drive the Cherokee (and... well, mostly drove the Cherokee the two years we had the 9-3, so...) so it isn't much of a change for me.
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The MINI Paceman is pointless, but at least it looks nice.  It's basically a less practical version of the Countryman, a car which was made because the regular hardtop MINI isn't practical enough. Reports so far are that it drives better than a Countryman, so there will inevitablely be a John Cooper Works AWD variant.
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hedge posted:The MINI Paceman is pointless More pointless or less pointless than the MINI Coupe?
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Q_res posted:More pointless or less pointless than the MINI Coupe? I see an unusually high number of MINI Coupes around, so I guess it's a good thing I'm not in charge of the company.
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kimbo305 posted:250 units sounds about right: Im confused whats all that special about this. Doesnt the polestar package(which is available now)bump power to 250hp 273 torque anyway? So really the special editions are getting blue paint, mono-tube dampers, stiffer springs, and steering tweaks? poo poo, I almost forgot the option for dealer price gouging! Kind of a let down. I still want my AWD powder blue 400hp super wagon for not a lot of money. Dont any of you wake me from my dream.
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Franco Caution posted:Im confused whats all that special about this. I think that was called the Magnum SRT8?
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XCPuff posted:I think that was called the Magnum SRT8? I don't think you could get AWD on the SRT. Only on the RT, I believe.
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hedge posted:The MINI Paceman is pointless, but at least it looks nice. Not gonna lie, I quite like that. Would definitely rock an All4 JCW model.
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2ndclasscitizen posted:Not gonna lie, I quite like that. Would definitely rock an All4 JCW model. Just to be clear, you really want a MINI that has been raised and turned into an SUV, then had the rear doors taken off and turned into a SUV Coupe, then lowered again (the JCW has lower suspension) to improve on road performance while sacrificing off-road pretensions. I don't understand people.
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Yes.
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Throatwarbler posted:Just to be clear, you really want a MINI that has been raised and turned into an SUV, then had the rear doors taken off and turned into a SUV Coupe, then lowered again (the JCW has lower suspension) to improve on road performance while sacrificing off-road pretensions. You just don't get it maaaaaaaaan
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oRenj9 posted:I think the S2000 was more of a replacement for the Prelude. Honda actually stated in their product planning that the Accord Coupe was intended to replace the Prelude. Hence the offering of the V6 manual which was not offered in the sedan.
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hedge posted:The MINI Paceman is pointless, but at least it looks nice. Man that looks horrible
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Throatwarbler posted:Just to be clear, you really want a MINI that has been raised and turned into an SUV, then had the rear doors taken off and turned into a SUV Coupe, then lowered again (the JCW has lower suspension) to improve on road performance while sacrificing off-road pretensions. So, in other words, standard modern BMW product planning? These are the people who brought you the X6, after all. The original SUV Coupe. edit: Oh, also, the ugly is spreading:  New Smart car concept. Looks pretty familiar, really. OXBALLS DOT COM fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Sep 14, 2012 |
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I think X6's objectively looks cool but they're so ridiculously illogical that I won't allow myself to actually like it. I hope in 50 years they'll auction them off under the "what the hell were they thinking category".
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