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Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Krime posted:

Question:

My parents are both already on Verizon, it's not the "share everything" plan. I'm on Sprint and my wife is on ATT (CELL PHONE BINGO, haha).

My wife and myself are both out of contract. Can we both join on my parent's account, and if we did would we all be put on the "share everything" plan or on their current plan?

Finally, can my wife keep her number even though she's got a different area code from the rest of us?

Its only cell phone bingo if you have all of the big 4 involved!

Anyway,yeah you will be fine to switch a number regardless of area code, they don't care about that much anymore. Last I checked you should get a choice between the share plan and just adding into their current plan where your two new lines would be $30 for 2GB of data. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

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sharkytm
Oct 9, 2003

Ba

By

Sharkytm doot doo do doot do doo


Fallen Rib

Spoke Lee posted:

I know but I didn't know if they exempted video calls from your limit since they keep saying unlimited.

It is unlimited. Verizon isn't limiting anything, you just have to pay for it all once you've used up your bucket. Its a bullshit marketing plan designed to make you not think carefully about your data usage.

Mighty Horse
Jul 24, 2007

Speed, Class, Bankruptcy.
I have found a way to work the system a bit and keep unlimited data on an upgrade. Its a bit of a pain and takes a few steps, and will likely stop working at any point, and you might get a rep who wont do it, so YMMV.

1) Add a new line on your account on a monthly contract, you will need a piece of equipment, can be anything really, not even a smartphone.

2) Do an alternate line upgrade on your eligible line with unlimited data, but have the activating line be the new monthly contract plan line. This should let you keep unlimited data on the eligible line, extend its contract for 2 years, and get you a subsidized phone, but not touch the contract on the monthly plan.

3) Wait a day, then switch the new phone to the line you wanted it, and put the monthly contract line back on they old junky equipment, wait another day.

4) Call and cancel the monthly line.

5) Because the monthly line has no contract, and thus NO etf, you are only out possibly out a $35 activation fee (should be credited if you cancel within 3 days), and the prorated service on that monthly line.

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

Mighty Horse posted:

I have found a way to work the system a bit and keep unlimited data on an upgrade. Its a bit of a pain and takes a few steps, and will likely stop working at any point, and you might get a rep who wont do it, so YMMV.

1) Add a new line on your account on a monthly contract, you will need a piece of equipment, can be anything really, not even a smartphone.

2) Do an alternate line upgrade on your eligible line with unlimited data, but have the activating line be the new monthly contract plan line. This should let you keep unlimited data on the eligible line, extend its contract for 2 years, and get you a subsidized phone, but not touch the contract on the monthly plan.

3) Wait a day, then switch the new phone to the line you wanted it, and put the monthly contract line back on they old junky equipment, wait another day.

4) Call and cancel the monthly line.

5) Because the monthly line has no contract, and thus NO etf, you are only out possibly out a $35 activation fee (should be credited if you cancel within 3 days), and the prorated service on that monthly line.

Transferring upgrades will make you lose your unlimited data. Also transferring upgrades still puts a contract on the phone the upgrade came from.

You have to make a new line, buy an iphone and 2 year contract on it. Then swap phones. Then pay $10/m for 2 years on the new line or pay $350 ETF (Which would be dumb)

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

Don Lapre posted:

Transferring upgrades will make you lose your unlimited data. Also transferring upgrades still puts a contract on the phone the upgrade came from.

You have to make a new line, buy an iphone and 2 year contract on it. Then swap phones. Then pay $10/m for 2 years on the new line or pay $350 ETF (Which would be dumb)

Sounds like he's capitalizing on the fact that an upgrade transfer will kill unlimited data for the recipient line, not the donor line. In this case the recipient had no data plan to wipe out in the first place.

Anyway he sells phones so I'd trust him that it works :v:

kstatix
Mar 20, 2006

Mighty Horse posted:

I have found a way to work the system a bit and keep unlimited data on an upgrade. Its a bit of a pain and takes a few steps, and will likely stop working at any point, and you might get a rep who wont do it, so YMMV.

1) Add a new line on your account on a monthly contract, you will need a piece of equipment, can be anything really, not even a smartphone.

2) Do an alternate line upgrade on your eligible line with unlimited data, but have the activating line be the new monthly contract plan line. This should let you keep unlimited data on the eligible line, extend its contract for 2 years, and get you a subsidized phone, but not touch the contract on the monthly plan.

3) Wait a day, then switch the new phone to the line you wanted it, and put the monthly contract line back on they old junky equipment, wait another day.

4) Call and cancel the monthly line.

5) Because the monthly line has no contract, and thus NO etf, you are only out possibly out a $35 activation fee (should be credited if you cancel within 3 days), and the prorated service on that monthly line.

Just here to confirm this works.

kbar
Aug 9, 2002

Will that work if you've already got five lines?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Socialism posted:

Yeah, that was the case with the 4S launch iirc, and I asked Verizon people at their store.
This is wrong, by the way. I was able to order an iPhone on Verizon for full price without an issue. (Two, actually, since the Apple store had a 2 week wait by the time I woke up, so I put one through both Apple and Verizon and will cancel the one that ships second.)

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

kitten smoothie posted:

Sounds like he's capitalizing on the fact that an upgrade transfer will kill unlimited data for the recipient line, not the donor line. In this case the recipient had no data plan to wipe out in the first place.

Anyway he sells phones so I'd trust him that it works :v:

Rereading it, i see whats going on

Does the junk phone you use to create the new line have to actually work?

edit: guess its best to wait and do this once there is some phone availability otherwise you will have to keep the new line opened till you get your phone? Or is that not the case.

Don Lapre fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Sep 14, 2012

quotison
Dec 29, 2005

don't hit your head
I preordered an iPhone 5 from Verizon this morning. I'm switching from AT&T. I wasn't able to use a different shipping address than my billing address when I ordered online and I'd like to have it shipped to my office instead of my apartment. When I called, Verizon said they couldn't change the shipping address. Is there anyway to change this or am I out of luck?

AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Spoke Lee posted:

I know but I didn't know if they exempted video calls from your limit since they keep saying unlimited.

Unlimited for the app != Unlimited across the board.

Unlimited by Skype means that you can video-call as much as you want and Skype won't charge you. You will, however, still use data; and if you're capped/limited in any way, video-calling will blow that out of the water in a big goddamn hurry.

kitten smoothie
Dec 29, 2001

quotison posted:

I preordered an iPhone 5 from Verizon this morning. I'm switching from AT&T. I wasn't able to use a different shipping address than my billing address when I ordered online and I'd like to have it shipped to my office instead of my apartment. When I called, Verizon said they couldn't change the shipping address. Is there anyway to change this or am I out of luck?

I don't know if Verizon uses FedEx or UPS, but either way, when you get your tracking number you can go to the shipment carrier's website and have them redirect the shipment. So if you can't change the address, you still have some options. I believe it's free with FedEx and $5 with UPS, so cross your fingers it's fedex.

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


This is from a couple pages back but

sleepness posted:

Quick question, my google searches are not leading to any concrete answers. I'm thinking about switching from ATT to Verizon for the new iPhone to benefit from LTE in my area, but was curious if that if I am connected to LTE, could I do voice and data simultaneously?

Looks like the answer is no.

Socialism
May 9, 2009

Endless Mike posted:

This is wrong, by the way. I was able to order an iPhone on Verizon for full price without an issue. (Two, actually, since the Apple store had a 2 week wait by the time I woke up, so I put one through both Apple and Verizon and will cancel the one that ships second.)

Yeah I realized that last night - it's the unlocked, not off-contract, that's initially unavailable.

A COMPUTER GUY
Aug 23, 2007

I can't spare this man - he fights.
Is the Verizon order status page broken for anyone else? :ohdear:

god this blows
Mar 13, 2003

kstatix posted:

Just here to confirm this works.

Can you do this online or do you have to call to do this?

Kinfolk Jones
Oct 31, 2010

Faaaaaaaaast

Ulysses S. Grant posted:

Is the Verizon order status page broken for anyone else? :ohdear:

Yes, use this link instead.

kstatix
Mar 20, 2006

god this blows posted:

Can you do this online or do you have to call to do this?

Unless something changed recently, no, you can't add new lines of service online with your own equipment.

Also, all you need us a clean idle esn. You don't ever have to have the phone on or anything. You can literally find a busted rear end phone with a clean esn and it'll work.

god this blows
Mar 13, 2003

kstatix posted:

Unless something changed recently, no, you can't add new lines of service online with your own equipment.

Also, all you need us a clean idle esn. You don't ever have to have the phone on or anything. You can literally find a busted rear end phone with a clean esn and it'll work.

I have an old Motorola Razr, the original kind.

kstatix
Mar 20, 2006

god this blows posted:

I have an old Motorola Razr, the original kind.

That works.

WithoutTheFezOn
Aug 28, 2005
Oh no
Can you still activate a LG VX8300, or is that too old?

kstatix
Mar 20, 2006

WithoutTheFezOn posted:

Can you still activate a LG VX8300, or is that too old?

Not at all. Go nuts.

The only phones that can't be activated are the ones that are so old that they're not even e911 capable. So pretty much anything manufactured after 2004 or so should be fine.

Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."
Considering a switch to verizon from sprint when my contract is up in november. Basically just tired of paying for 4g that I'm never going to get from sprint, especially with their new LTE overhaul coming up.

How does verizon's data plan work? Do you pay for X amount of gb a month or something like that? The only way I'd stick with sprint is if verizon ended up being significantly more expensive.

foodfight
Feb 10, 2009

Kingtheninja posted:

Considering a switch to verizon from sprint when my contract is up in november. Basically just tired of paying for 4g that I'm never going to get from sprint, especially with their new LTE overhaul coming up.

How does verizon's data plan work? Do you pay for X amount of gb a month or something like that? The only way I'd stick with sprint is if verizon ended up being significantly more expensive.

Yeah I just switched to the 2GB for $30 a month and I'm interested in how much it is if I go over. I read it is $10 for 2 additional GB, is that accurate?

AppleCobbler
Feb 8, 2003
remember that time I was just chilling out and definitely not having a massive meltdown? right guys? guys??? :laugh:

foodfight posted:

Yeah I just switched to the 2GB for $30 a month and I'm interested in how much it is if I go over. I read it is $10 for 2 additional GB, is that accurate?

$10 for every GB

cage-free egghead
Mar 8, 2004

foodfight posted:

Yeah I just switched to the 2GB for $30 a month and I'm interested in how much it is if I go over. I read it is $10 for 2 additional GB, is that accurate?
I may be mis-remembering how exactly he said it but our Verizon rep had stated that if you are going to be over or under your monthly limit you can call it get it switched to a different tier, be credited back the original amount and only pay the difference, rather than getting prorated. That and your limit goes back to zero when you switch so in reality you can use much more than you pay for and effectively work the system.

ProjektorBoy
Jun 18, 2002

I FUCK LINEN IN MY SPARE TIME!
Grimey Drawer

Don Lapre posted:

Transferring upgrades will make you lose your unlimited data. Also transferring upgrades still puts a contract on the phone the upgrade came from.

You have to make a new line, buy an iphone and 2 year contract on it. Then swap phones. Then pay $10/m for 2 years on the new line or pay $350 ETF (Which would be dumb)

I have 4 lines on my family plan. 3 of the lines are legacy unlimited data. The fourth of the lines is a 2GB/$30 plan (Line B).

I have an upgrade on my unlimited data primary line (Line A), and I figure I could just circumvent things to get a subsidized device if I take that upgrade that's available on my primary line (Line A) and transfer it to the 2GB/$30 line (Line B).

The way I figure it would go, is that my Line A stays untouched, while losing upgrade eligibility, then my Line B is on contract for longer while its data plan stays the same and a subsidized phone (meant for Line B) gets shipped out. Apparently burning the upgrade will negatively affect both lines?

Don Lapre
Mar 28, 2001

If you're having problems you're either holding the phone wrong or you have tiny girl hands.

ProjektorBoy posted:

I have 4 lines on my family plan. 3 of the lines are legacy unlimited data. The fourth of the lines is a 2GB/$30 plan (Line B).

I have an upgrade on my unlimited data primary line (Line A), and I figure I could just circumvent things to get a subsidized device if I take that upgrade that's available on my primary line (Line A) and transfer it to the 2GB/$30 line (Line B).

The way I figure it would go, is that my Line A stays untouched, while losing upgrade eligibility, then my Line B is on contract for longer while its data plan stays the same and a subsidized phone (meant for Line B) gets shipped out. Apparently burning the upgrade will negatively affect both lines?
Yea I just did this too. Transferred my upgrade from an unlimited account to a dumb phone and preordered. The preorder confirmation lists my unlimited line though. I think it's just how their system works though on preorders. Any ideas? Which line did it show for you in the preorder email? The line the upgrade came from or the one it was transferred to?

fourwood
Sep 9, 2001

Damn I'll bring them to their knees.
Is there no way to avoid the Share Anything plans on a new account? I'd like to get on Verizon's network with a new iPhone 5, but it's not worth the $25/month more it would cost than the AT&T plan I have now. ($40 for 450 minutes and $25 for 2GB of data.)

bub
Apr 9, 2001
ffffffffffff

fourwood posted:

Is there no way to avoid the Share Anything plans on a new account? I'd like to get on Verizon's network with a new iPhone 5, but it's not worth the $25/month more it would cost than the AT&T plan I have now. ($40 for 450 minutes and $25 for 2GB of data.)

Find a rep in a store willing to switch you to the older plans as they are still available in the sales system as far as I know.

kstatix
Mar 20, 2006

bub posted:

Find a rep in a store willing to switch you to the older plans as they are still available in the sales system as far as I know.

This is true. You can still set people up on the nationwide plans. Some reps will tell you they can't, but they're just dumb.

Philip Rivers
Mar 15, 2010

The lack of even remotely worthwhile feature phones makes me pretty sad. I mean, I get why they're being phased out, but that doesn't change the fact that I still can't afford a monthly data plan, and the few feature phones they still offer on the site are so worthless that I ended up spending $50 on a preowned Alias 2. That's a crock of poo poo in my book.

Why can't you just let me get a new phone without a data plan, you awful fuckers? I'm trying to give you my money and you're refusing it.

Spaz Medicine
Feb 22, 2008

My family just upgraded our Verizon plan from a regular plan to a data plan, and got smartphones with it. It turns out that the Verizon storefront we went to wasn't actually run by Verizon, but a third party, and we didn't find out until after signing paperwork. They didn't even have the phone that I wanted in stock, they had to special order it (Galaxy S3 32GB).

They couldn't activate the phones. I don't know why, but my dad's got activated after a few attempts, but my mother's phone just doesn't work. It says there is no SIM card, but there is totally a SIM card in the device. They tried different phones and different SIM cards, but none of them worked. They said that the network is backed up because of the new iPhone coming out, but that sounds a bit like BS to me. We tried multiple times at 2:30 in the morning, last night. Why would the network be backed up at 2:30AM?

Has this ever happened to anyone signing up for a data plan? We've been trying to get the phone activated since yesterday. It's just so goddamned weird.

Do you guys think it would be possible to just cancel out everything we've done there and get it done at a real Verizon storefront? I'm not getting my hopes up but it's worth asking.

texaholic
Sep 16, 2007

Well it's floodin' down in Texas
All of the telephone lines are down
Anyone picked up a Razr M? I have an HTC thunderbolt with unlimited data and I am looking to upgrade at full retail price this fall. I checked out the Razr M at a store the other day and was very impressed. I am really considering just buying the Razr M and then flipping it when the Razr HD/Maxx comes out if I decide I need the bigger HD screen. The Razr M really made the thunderbolt feel like a dinosaur of a phone.

modig
Aug 20, 2002

Spaz Medicine posted:

My family just upgraded our Verizon plan from a regular plan to a data plan, and got smartphones with it. It turns out that the Verizon storefront we went to wasn't actually run by Verizon, but a third party, and we didn't find out until after signing paperwork. They didn't even have the phone that I wanted in stock, they had to special order it (Galaxy S3 32GB).

They couldn't activate the phones. I don't know why, but my dad's got activated after a few attempts, but my mother's phone just doesn't work. It says there is no SIM card, but there is totally a SIM card in the device. They tried different phones and different SIM cards, but none of them worked. They said that the network is backed up because of the new iPhone coming out, but that sounds a bit like BS to me. We tried multiple times at 2:30 in the morning, last night. Why would the network be backed up at 2:30AM?

Has this ever happened to anyone signing up for a data plan? We've been trying to get the phone activated since yesterday. It's just so goddamned weird.

Do you guys think it would be possible to just cancel out everything we've done there and get it done at a real Verizon storefront? I'm not getting my hopes up but it's worth asking.
I think you always have 30 days to return phones and stuff due to US law.

Aatrek
Jul 19, 2004

by Fistgrrl
Verizon is two weeks, I believe.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Was it just a Kiosk or something? I don't understand how an actual storefront can pretend to be Verizon.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Cojawfee posted:

Was it just a Kiosk or something? I don't understand how an actual storefront can pretend to be Verizon.
They are called premium retailers if I remember correctly. They are a privately owned third party franchise in which Verizon allows them to use their name. Corporate stores are actually owned by Verizon.

Spaz Medicine
Feb 22, 2008

Auron posted:

They are called premium retailers if I remember correctly. They are a privately owned third party franchise in which Verizon allows them to use their name. Corporate stores are actually owned by Verizon.

Yeah, it was one of these. We didn't even know that was a thing, so we didn't notice it wasn't a corporate store until we had started to sign up. Hell, I don't know if it would have even made a difference if we went to an actual Verizon-owned storefront. I'm irritated and disappointed that we walked in intending to get three smart phones, and walked out with two, only one of which works. The third party makes kind of an easy target. I just don't know who to direct my irritation at. :(

Hopefully the parents are OK with just cancelling all of it and starting over at an actual Verizon outlet, but I sincerely doubt they want to deal with cellphone salespeople twice in two days.

Thanks for the input, everyone. :)

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Kingtheninja
Jul 29, 2004

"You're the best looking guy here."
Checking my data usage and I apparently haven't gone over .5 gb in the past year. Knowing that, it looks like a smartphone with 1gb data would run $90. With surcharges etc, should I expect to pay something like $100-105 total?

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