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FMguru posted:
There's also the kid who's dressed as a pirate.
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Winter Soldier #10. I thought this was an exquisite effort in emotion. Black Widow's been brainwashed, killed Jasper Sitwell, and now Bucky knows he might have to kill his one great love. 
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Sep 16, 2012 19:15
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FMguru posted:That first panel (the face of someone about to die) is a repeated image in Watchmen, and the thug's shadow leaves a Rorschach-style patterning on his face. It's actually the shadow of the Nite Owl statuette they kill him with, but the symmetry does make it look a little Rorschach-ian. Man I love Watchmen. 
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Sep 16, 2012 21:43
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Kull the Conqueror posted:Winter Soldier #10. I thought this was an exquisite effort in emotion. Black Widow's been brainwashed, killed Jasper Sitwell, and now Bucky knows he might have to kill his one great love. I agree with you that they are beautiful pages but I think the sadness comes from Widow having lost most of her memories of her time with Bucky more than him maybe having to kill her.
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Sep 16, 2012 22:05
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My favorite character is Majestic/Majestros, Wildstorm's version of Superman. What started as a Superman parody in WILDcats became IMO one of the coolest supermen around, a lot more power and a lot less humanity. Alan More wrote a one shot that tells how a near omnipotent super man dies. After eons and eons, Majestic is one of the last surviving beings in existence and faces a cosmic entity. He soon loses the battle and this happens:    Such a cool ending to one of the most powerful beings who ever lived. Apologies for the quality, just dug out my copy and took iPad pics.
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Sep 17, 2012 01:17
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It's probably significant that the cosmic entity looks a bit like Moore. Also, Asimov did that ending first.
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Sep 17, 2012 02:07
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Senior Woodchuck posted:It's probably significant that the cosmic entity looks a bit like Moore. Moore wrote it.
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Sep 17, 2012 05:37
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He 'homaged' the poo poo out of Asimov's The Last Question.". I've had a frustrating number of comic readers tell me how mind blowing the ending to Supreme was, and how no one else is that creative. It's a nice story, but Moore really only added capes.
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Sep 17, 2012 05:52
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Squidster posted:He 'homaged' the poo poo out of Asimov's The Last Question.". I've had a frustrating number of comic readers tell me how mind blowing the ending to Supreme was, and how no one else is that creative. It's a nice story, but Moore really only added capes. Your point?
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Sep 17, 2012 15:53
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Hyperactive posted:And Star Wars was a samurai movie with lasers. And samurai movies are Westerns with swords. And Westerns are structurally identical to 1,000+ year old jianghu stories with guns. To be fair one major western is a samurai with guns.
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Sep 17, 2012 15:57
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Hyperactive posted:And Star Wars was a samurai movie with lasers. And samurai movies are Westerns with swords. And Westerns are structurally identical to 1,000+ year old jianghu stories with guns. And Final Fantasy (and anime in general) is all of those mixed together in a wonderful flashy mess.
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Sep 17, 2012 16:07
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Squidster posted:He 'homaged' the poo poo out of Asimov's The Last Question.". I've had a frustrating number of comic readers tell me how mind blowing the ending to Supreme was, and how no one else is that creative. It's a nice story, but Moore really only added capes. It sounds like your problem isn't really that Moore took from a previous story, but that people fail to appreciate the previous works. I've seen a lot of that whenever Moore is talked about, especially. Unfortunately all you can really do is point them at the minds who crafted stories every bit as creative and hope they appreciate them too.
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Sep 17, 2012 17:08
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I like stories that are good. These stories are good. v v
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Sep 17, 2012 19:04
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RyuujinBlueZ posted:It sounds like your problem isn't really that Moore took from a previous story, but that people fail to appreciate the previous works. I've seen a lot of that whenever Moore is talked about, especially. Unfortunately all you can really do is point them at the minds who crafted stories every bit as creative and hope they appreciate them too. I did actually discover Asimov's "Question" because I liked the ending above so much and researched it, so I know it isn't an original idea. That said I enjoy the character enough that I think it is cool to extend him to the end of the world. Plus, I like "There really should be light." instead of the whole grandiose LET THERE BE LIGHT. A more human ending/beginning. Maybe the computer started it over first, then Majestic/Super Space Wire Moore started it over again. 
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Sep 17, 2012 22:50
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Hyperactive posted:And Star Wars was a samurai movie with lasers. And samurai movies are Westerns with swords. And Westerns are structurally identical to 1,000+ year old jianghu stories with guns. Oh my god, everyone ever is a hack.
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Sep 18, 2012 02:00
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Gentlefolk, please join me in Derailed before we all get banned. Content - from a graphic novel called Meltdown. The protagonist, a screwup 9-5 superhero called Flare, has found out that his flame-based powers are exponentially increasing in power, and will consume him entirely in a matter of days. He decides he's going to settle all his old scores before he goes out, starting with the supervillain he hated most.     After he's had his revenge, he tries to make up to his old girlfriends, say goodbye to his loved ones, but a natural disaster pulls his away, and his hero instincts kick in one last time.     He manages to save a handful of lives before his powers fail him completely, and he goes out in a literal blaze of glory. And then six months later...  
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Sep 18, 2012 02:28
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I'm not sure if this was overly sappy to most but it certainly got me; I think the expressive art and the dialogue really bring out the emotion here. Supergirl #0:    
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Sep 22, 2012 19:58
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Have they explained why the two scientist dudes didn't warn people anyways? It shouldn't have been too hard for an interstellar civilization to load up a few busloads of people, right?
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Sep 23, 2012 03:14
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KittenofDoom posted:Have they explained why the two scientist dudes didn't warn people anyways? I don't know if it is the same in the new 52 but pre-52 it was pretty much Kryptonian hubris thinking that their world will never end.
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Sep 23, 2012 03:22
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Think of it like this: some crazy scientist says the planets gonna blow up, everyone else says it won't. You gonna evacuate over that?
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Sep 23, 2012 06:16
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ChairMaster posted:Think of it like this: some crazy scientist says the planets gonna blow up, everyone else says it won't. You gonna evacuate over that? Yeah, but I thought Jor-El was supposed to be pretty well respected, not just "some crazy scientist". So if I were on a planet where (presumably) interplanetary travel is possible, I might just take a little vacation, spend a week over in scenic Daxam, whatever.
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Sep 23, 2012 06:56
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TwoPair posted:Yeah, but I thought Jor-El was supposed to be pretty well respected, not just "some crazy scientist". So if I were on a planet where (presumably) interplanetary travel is possible, I might just take a little vacation, spend a week over in scenic Daxam, whatever. If a respectable scientist like, say, Stephen Hawking said something world-changing, i.e. there's no God, how many people would listen and change their views overnight?
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Sep 23, 2012 10:08
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Mister Roboto posted:If a respectable scientist like, say, Stephen Hawking said something world-changing, i.e. there's no God, how many people would listen and change their views overnight? That's a really bad analogy, plus you can chalk it up to comic writers not really thinking this backstory all the way through when they sketched it out
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Sep 23, 2012 10:24
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Want a better analogy? Imagine if a bunch of scientist say global warming is real and we better start looking for an alternate source of energy otherwise we are going to accelerate it or cause major catastrophic changes to the planet. Then a bunch of guys say "climate change isn't real". Bang. In the case of Krypton I think that it was pretty much Kal-L dad going "the world is going to end and we are doomed" and Krypton saying we are leading such an awesome life that you are clearly a party-pooper.
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Sep 23, 2012 10:33
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Pacra posted:That's a really bad analogy, plus you can chalk it up to comic writers not really thinking this backstory all the way through when they sketched it out Or, as Madkal illustrated, the backstory is all TOO close to reality.
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Sep 23, 2012 10:35
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I'm pretty sure Jor-El is just the Kryptonian Al Gore.
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Sep 23, 2012 19:25
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^^ EDIT: http://www.theonion.com/articles/al-gore-places-infant-son-in-rocket-to-escape-dyin,2495/ Yeah, the fact that no one on Krypton wants to believe that their world could end because it's too terrifying to contemplate? That's just about the LEAST alien thing about them.
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Magic Love Hose posted:^^ EDIT: http://www.theonion.com/articles/al-gore-places-infant-son-in-rocket-to-escape-dyin,2495/ I always liked in TAS how Brainiac was hiding the truth and Jor-el was the only one that saw past him
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Sep 23, 2012 19:32
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KittenofDoom posted:Have they explained why the two scientist dudes didn't warn people anyways? Pretty sure the jury's still out on Jor-El, but Zor-El's reputation was tarnished because he was doing cloning experiments (eventually leading to the creation of the Worldkillers, who are now Supergirl villains), so he kept his plans secret, assuming that no one would consent to his shielding of Argo City. He also didn't tell his wife what he was doing with Kara for the same reasons.
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Sep 23, 2012 19:47
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d00gZ posted:I'm pretty sure Jor-El is just the Kryptonian Al Gore. Really, if Superman had done what Jor-El would have wanted he'd spend all of his time and effort fighting global warming. Yeah, thanks for stopping that bank robber Superman, he's totally doing more damage to us then, I don't know, EXXON MOBIL. Your father's ashes are rolling while orbiting Rao, rear end in a top hat.
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Sep 23, 2012 19:55
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DarkCrawler posted:Really, if Superman had done what Jor-El would have wanted he'd spend all of his time and effort fighting global warming. Yeah, thanks for stopping that bank robber Superman, he's totally doing more damage to us then, I don't know, EXXON MOBIL. Your father's ashes are rolling while orbiting Rao, rear end in a top hat. Sounds like a job for Clark Kent.
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Sep 23, 2012 20:00
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bobkatt013 posted:I always liked in TAS how Brainiac was hiding the truth and Jor-el was the only one that saw past him Morrison talked about how that was his favorite version of Brainiac. Speaking of Morrison and Brainiac, someone needs to post (in another thread) Alex Ross' orignal sketches for how Brainiac was supposed to look in Justice. Grant Morrison as Brainiac is hilarious to behold.
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Sep 23, 2012 23:36
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Die Laughing posted:Brainiac was supposed to look in Justice. Literally copypasted that into google and this was the first hit: 
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Sep 23, 2012 23:41
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Mister Roboto posted:If a respectable scientist like, say, Stephen Hawking said something world-changing, i.e. there's no God, how many people would listen and change their views overnight? About none at all. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/under-god/post/stephen-hawking-there-is-no-heaven/2011/05/16/AF6hNs4G_blog.html
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Sep 24, 2012 08:31
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TwoPair posted:Yeah, but I thought Jor-El was supposed to be pretty well respected, not just "some crazy scientist". So if I were on a planet where (presumably) interplanetary travel is possible, I might just take a little vacation, spend a week over in scenic Daxam, whatever. Jor-El was respected but the comics have made it clear Krypton was kinda a jerk-planet. They thought he was just making mountains out of molehills (or in some universes just thought he was a crazy lying jerk for some reason) because hey, it's superman planet, nothing can stop superman planet. Also depending on the universe Brainiac may have been involved in trying to cover up the findings so he just looked like he was talking out of his rear end.
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Sep 24, 2012 16:49
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Fried Chicken posted:About none at all. And there's a good reason for that:  (Atomic Robo #4)
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Sep 24, 2012 19:12
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That and Carl Sagan alien hunting are two of the top three reasons to pick up all of those books. Dr. Dinosaur is the magnificent third.
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I thought this was kinda sweet, y'know, in a weird way. The Thunderbolts are stranded in the far flung future of    (Don't worry, Moonstone catches her) Dark Avengers 181
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Sep 24, 2012 23:43
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TwoPair posted:The Thunderbolts are stranded in the far flung future of I wouldn't say they've done no wrong, they're pretty clearly a 2000AD style fascist dictatorship that's only the "good" side by virtue of their (oppressed, marginalized mutant) enemies being slightly more chaotic and brutal. Plus there's the whole genetic purity thing going on. The part that makes this truly wrong is that it's going to help no one, it's just a French Revolution style slaughter of the privileged class by those who have nothing, but in this case it'll end with neither side having anything, and one of the sides being slaughtered horribly.
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Yeah, I get that they're not really innocent, it's just that... well yeah, what you said. It's slaughter for slaughter's sake.
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