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rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

trex eaterofcadrs posted:

in java and intellij it p much is

yep.

select method, 'move method to superclass', pick which superclass, click ok.

select block of code, 'extract to method', choose which vars will be parameters to the function, click ok. it also finds any duplicate calls that you may have C&Ped and converts those sections to just call the new method.

idea loving owns.

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:37

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# ? May 9, 2024 05:08

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

i honestly cannot imagine why you'd write large-scale software without idea or something very much like it.

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:38

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

trex eaterofcadrs posted:

in java and eclipse it p much is

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:38

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

rotor posted:

yep.

select method, 'move method to superclass', pick which superclass, click ok.

select block of code, 'extract to method', choose which vars will be parameters to the function, click ok. it also finds any duplicate calls that you may have C&Ped and converts those sections to just call the new method.

idea loving owns.

haha holy poo poo its like legos

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:42

what is this: Sep 11, 2001; it is a lemur

rotor posted:

yep.

select method, 'move method to superclass', pick which superclass, click ok.

select block of code, 'extract to method', choose which vars will be parameters to the function, click ok. it also finds any duplicate calls that you may have C&Ped and converts those sections to just call the new method.

idea loving owns.

yes you can do this in xcode too

but serious refactoring will require serious work not just encapsulate menu command or push up/down

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:42

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Shaggar posted:

yeah, except eclipse doesn't do it as well, as fast, or without crashing every now & then.

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:45

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

what is this posted:

yes you can do this in xcode too

but serious refactoring will require serious work not just encapsulate menu command or push up/down

well yeah it's harder to introspect into c

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:46

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

rotor posted:

yeah, except eclipse doesn't do it as well, as fast, or without crashing every now & then.

i think you're confusing intellij and eclipse. my eclipse is fast and never crashes.

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:49

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

"wahhhh im on eclipse 3.2 on a celeron and this is slowwwww.. whahhhh" - eclipse haters

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:50

Tiny Bug Child: Sep 11, 2004; Avoid Symmetry, Allow Complexity, Introduce Terror

to be fair, eclipse is REALLY bad

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:55

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

the only reason to use eclipse is if youre writing code for some lovely embedded system that leverages eclipse to build/deploy or if your too loving poor to get a real ide.

eclipse: the ide for paupers, open sores lunatics and firmware writers.

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:56

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

eclipse is really fuckign awful an it's probably the piece of shaggars shtick that i just dont get

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:56

trex eaterofcadrs: Jun 17, 2005; My lack of understanding is only exceeded by my lack of concern.

eclipse equinox (osgi stuff) is p good tho

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:57

what is this: Sep 11, 2001; it is a lemur

trex eaterofcadrs posted:

eclipse is really fuckign awful an it's probably the piece of shaggars shtick that i just dont get

what about the lotus notes sperging

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:57

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

is the intellij demo different than the real intellij, b/c the demo was pretty bad.

# ? Sep 17, 2012 20:58

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

rotor posted:

the only reason to use eclipse is if youre writing code for some lovely embedded system that leverages eclipse to build/deploy or if your too loving poor to get a real ide.

eclipse: the ide for paupers, open sores lunatics and firmware writers.

like zero firmware writers use eclipse. nearly none of them.

# ? Sep 17, 2012 21:58

JawnV6: Jul 4, 2004; So hot ...

Otto Skorzeny posted:

like zero firmware writers use eclipse. nearly none of them.

what do you use?

# ? Sep 17, 2012 22:06

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Otto Skorzeny posted:

like zero firmware writers use eclipse. nearly none of them.

yeah idk all i remember seeing was that TI released some dev thing that was eclipse based, iunno if it ever went anywhere or what

# ? Sep 17, 2012 22:19

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

JawnV6 posted:

what do you use?

for pic, mplab

for freescale, codewarrior

for psoc, psoc creator

for production support and one-off stuff that i bang out in perl, gvim

i'm sure that the joke is on me and at least one of these is based on eclipse (which is probably why they're terrible)

# ? Sep 17, 2012 22:28

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

i used to use codewarrior for palm pilot stuff. :sigh:

# ? Sep 17, 2012 22:43

Sneaking Mission: Nov 11, 2008

is eclipse still referring to itself as a platform instead of something useful?

# ? Sep 17, 2012 22:46

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Sneaking Mission posted:

is eclipse still referring to itself as a platform instead of something useful?

What is Eclipse and the Eclipse Foundation?

Eclipse is a community for individuals and organizations who wish to collaborate on commercially-friendly open source software. Its projects are focused on building an open development platform comprised of extensible frameworks, tools and runtimes for building, deploying and managing software across the lifecycle. The Eclipse Foundation is a not-for-profit, member supported corporation that hosts the Eclipse projects and helps cultivate both an open source community and an ecosystem of complementary products and services.

hth

# ? Sep 17, 2012 22:53

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

im the bert server

# ? Sep 17, 2012 22:54

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

eclipse for albino perl developers, 1.9.2 cocoa edition

# ? Sep 17, 2012 22:55

Sneaking Mission: Nov 11, 2008

teh birts

# ? Sep 17, 2012 22:56

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Eclipse for Ichthyophobic R Developers, 1.7.2, win64

# ? Sep 17, 2012 22:57

rotor: Jun 11, 2001; classic case of pineapple derangement syndrome

Sneaking Mission posted:

teh birts

:-O

# ? Sep 17, 2012 22:57

Blotto Skorzany: Nov 7, 2008; He's a PSoC, loose and runnin'
came the whisper from each lip
And he's here to do some business with
the bad ADC on his chip
bad ADC on his chiiiiip

"whoa" - johnny utah, point break

# ? Sep 17, 2012 23:52

MononcQc: May 29, 2007

If you plan on modifying > 25% of your code there is no downside to just rewriting regarding bugs. refactoring is for non-cowboy babbies obv.

# ? Sep 18, 2012 00:43

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

Otto Skorzeny posted:

for psoc, psoc creator

i'm so sorry you have to deal with this piece of poo poo

# ? Sep 18, 2012 01:55

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Apr 17, 2007

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Tiny Bug Child posted:

its generic b/c it isn't any different than any other shitware text editor. you can do less stuff in it than vim and a box that asks for money probably keeps popping up

lol

# ? Sep 18, 2012 02:06

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

swt is poo poo hth

# ? Sep 18, 2012 03:22

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

ps eclipse is basically a hand-me-down smalltalk ide

# ? Sep 18, 2012 03:23

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

rcp looks and runs nice but swt is old as poo poo and crap. they need to replace it w/ xaml/mvvm

# ? Sep 18, 2012 03:29

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

swt is one of the few cross-platform toolkits i've had to wrap to make it cross platform

# ? Sep 18, 2012 03:33

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

there are only 2 cases when java isnt cross platform
1) when you're using JNI.
2) when you're using a bad jvm.

swt uses jni to hook platform specific libs for native window elements. if you're on windows or osx or a standard linux then its gonna work fine every time.

if you have to go out of your way to use a nonstandard thing then you'll need to bring your own translation layer to hook swt to your nonstandard native libs.

pure java is always cross platform unless you do dumb poo poo like hardcode os specific paths or something.

that said, when i mean swt sucks i mean the API was designed for java 1.4.2 and hasnt changed since then. its terrible. theres a single class with about a hundred int constants that are unrelated. its so bad.

# ? Sep 18, 2012 03:40

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

unngggg... xaml is so good. gently caress all of you web "developers" for ruining UI development forever.

# ? Sep 18, 2012 03:41

tef: May 30, 2004; -> some l-system crap ->

Shaggar posted:

there are only 2 cases when java isnt cross platform
1) when you're using JNI.
2) when you're using a bad jvm.

swt uses jni to hook platform specific libs for native window elements. if you're on windows or osx or a standard linux then its gonna work fine every time.

by cross platform I mean things like widgets working similarly enough across all platforms.

it's been a while, but I seem to recall the sliders being upside down on one platform, and tooltips that only displayed on the primary display on another.

quote:

that said, when i mean swt sucks i mean the API was designed for java 1.4.2 and hasnt changed since then. its terrible. theres a single class with about a hundred int constants that are unrelated. its so bad.

yep swt is terrible.

# ? Sep 18, 2012 10:13

X-BUM-RAIDER-X: May 7, 2008

being a java programmer is like being an alcoholic only there's a reason other than sheer incompetence that an alcoholic does things that only a brain damaged retard would do

# ? Sep 18, 2012 10:51

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# ? May 9, 2024 05:08

X-BUM-RAIDER-X: May 7, 2008

welp

X-BUM-RAIDER-X fucked around with this message at 11:02 on Sep 18, 2012

# ? Sep 18, 2012 10:52

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