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AlphaDog posted:My girlfriend was just watching some religious fundie on youtube (for laughs), and he made the claim that martial artists inhale demon's souls to gain strength. You have no idea who Pat Robertson is? Really? Nonetheless this vid is really loving depressing.
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Israfel posted:You have no idea who Pat Robertson is? Really? I'm from Australia and I give absolutely no fucks about other people's religion, so no. I only saw that one part of that video, and I thought he was just some weirdo guest on a talkshow. After your comment, I watched the rest of it and yeah, depressing.
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Novum posted:Just sat in on a local judo class and I was really bummed out. They seemed like pretty nice guys and all but I'm used to and expect really taxing training. If you're going to train exclusively in competition judo I feel like you should be a competitive school. I'm holding out hope for the other schools I'm looking into but in the back of my head I'm worried I won't be able to find what I'm after. Am I being unreasonable? Most people are going to be there to learn some Judo and have a workout that is more fun than running on a treadmill. Unless you are at an elite club (which probably wouldn't be interested in white belts) instructors aren't going to run people into the ground because then everyone would quit. However, if somebody is interested in competing at a higher level most clubs are able accommodate that once you get to that point. Also keep in mind most Judo clubs only work out a few times a week. I encourage guys to work on their conditioning outside of class because we need to spend our time in class working on Judo.
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Novum posted:Just sat in on a local judo class and I was really bummed out. They seemed like pretty nice guys and all but I'm used to and expect really taxing training. If you're going to train exclusively in competition judo I feel like you should be a competitive school. I'm holding out hope for the other schools I'm looking into but in the back of my head I'm worried I won't be able to find what I'm after. Am I being unreasonable? No. One of Judo's strength's and one of its problems is that it draws a wide range of individuals who are looking for different things. You get young guys like myself looking to constantly compete and improve, middle age folks looking to get a fun workout in and meet some people, and old guys who either used to be one of the previous groups or like feeling cool or whatever. Shop around and find a club you are enthusiastic about being a part of, not just for your own sake but for the club. No one likes a guy who isn't happy to be there. Thoguh posted:I encourage guys to work on their conditioning outside of class because we need to spend our time in class working on Judo. God I wish my current club would learn this a little more. Also, Judo is in itself a good conditioning workout, we dont need to spend half an hour doing BS calisthenics. wedgie deliverer fucked around with this message at 14:01 on Sep 18, 2012 |
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Novum posted:Just sat in on a local judo class and I was really bummed out. They seemed like pretty nice guys and all but I'm used to and expect really taxing training. If you're going to train exclusively in competition judo I feel like you should be a competitive school. I'm holding out hope for the other schools I'm looking into but in the back of my head I'm worried I won't be able to find what I'm after. Am I being unreasonable? Like has been said, people doing judo have very, very different motivations. It's not like in BJJ where it's mostly a homogeneous group of young guys that watch MMA. It's something I personally like since at my club we have 1/3 to 1/2 of people taking it "seriously" wanting to compete and all and 1/2 who are there for fun/metting people/doing a sport. So you can do whatever you want and have fun doing it.
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Does anyone have any solid stretching routines to really focus on flexibility for bjj? I'm not very flexible and I'd love to work out on it 2 or 3 times per week (not including before class). Anyone have any routines?
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KingColliwog posted:Like has been said, people doing judo have very, very different motivations. It's not like in BJJ where it's mostly a homogeneous group of young guys that watch MMA. my bjj gym has a wide range of guys. Some people also will ramp up or down depending on their partner. So you see dudes who are usually laid back giving competition guys a real run because they are getting ready to compete and ask for a harder roll. We've become a fairly large school though, so I guess smaller academies may be more homogenious. Moniker posted:Does anyone have any solid stretching routines to really focus on flexibility for bjj? I'm not very flexible and I'd love to work out on it 2 or 3 times per week (not including before class). Anyone have any routines? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_stretching Do something from this list and slowly work your way up to wider ROM's
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AlphaDog posted:I'm from Australia and I give absolutely no fucks about other people's religion, so no. I only saw that one part of that video, and I thought he was just some weirdo guest on a talkshow. After your comment, I watched the rest of it and yeah, depressing. Oh okay, I figured you were from Australia or something, he's a well-known fundie rear end in a top hat who regularly makes the news for being a shithead here in the states. I laughed pretty hard at that vid though it's like the guys who stand around with signs that say SPORTS NUTS ARE THE DEVIL'S SLAVES
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Anyone here ever alter or tailor a BJJ/Judo gi? I know some people swear that you should never do it because it wrecks the integrity, but I feel like if a Pakistani factory can stitch it together, why couldn't a tailor with the proper machine do it as well? I would otherwise try to sell it but its a Fuji BJJ gi so its not like itll get huge resale on it. And yes I should have returned it but I thought I could shrink it more. I have an A5 Fuji BJJ gi. I heard they shrink a lot so I bought that instead of the A4. Now I have a gi that is just too big, even after washing with hot water and drying super hot at least 5 times now. I don't think it's gonna shrink anymore. I think Im going to just get the sleeves hemmed for now and see how that holds up. Can they reattach the tape you think? Christ, this is just frustrating. My first gi I bought was a Fuji Judo gi thats now too small, and now the Fuji BJJ gi I bought was too big :-\.
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First, thanks to everyone that gave me suggestion on what to do in scissor guard. I'm playing with a lot of ideas that were given to me and the "sneaky triangle" is something I see working once I drill it a little bit more and I'm also finding there's a lot of straight armbars and kimura opportunity when someone post their arm to block the scissor sweep. This thread proves to be super helpful once again! --- Is it standard for BJJ guys to just plain old suck at getting out of pins? Especially scarf hold (gesa)? As a judo blue/bjj white it always amazes me that I can get people much better technically and much stronger physically in a scarf hold and just play with them from there. If I heavily commit to a submission they manage to get out, but if I wanted to just stall the match there it feels like I could do so indefinitely. I have few submissions from the top (except from mount because I can just do what I do in guard) so I tend to spend a lot of time in gesa and such during BJJ matches trying to hunt for a sub. It always just surprises me that I can get away with it. In judo it's the opposite, people are horrible when they are in my guard and they will just give me the stupidest submission ever, but unless they are weaker/worst than me overall I usually can't keep them pinned all that long and if I manage to keep the pin they'll make me work for it really hard. It's always surprising to me how a couple of differences in rules will heavily impact what people can/can't do in two sports which are so similar overall. Xguard86 posted:my bjj gym has a wide range of guys. Some people also will ramp up or down depending on their partner. So you see dudes who are usually laid back giving competition guys a real run because they are getting ready to compete and ask for a harder roll. We've become a fairly large school though, so I guess smaller academies may be more homogenious. My opinions come from my very limited experience in BJJ so what I said probably doesn't apply to every school and/or might be regional. I'd be happy if the BJJ place I go to had more laid back guys haha. Around here everybody that even knows what BJJ is, are mostly young guys that watch MMA. In the US it's far more widespread I think so that might affect it too. I also think that since BJJ is such a "young" art, you just don't have many old people doing it yet and that probably changes the atmosphere of most clubs. In 30-40 years when it'll be more well known by the general public and there's a huge amount of middle age guys/old guys doing BJJ as a way to stay in shape it'll probably change things up a little bit. KingColliwog fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Sep 18, 2012 |
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swagger like us posted:Anyone here ever alter or tailor a BJJ/Judo gi? I know some people swear that you should never do it because it wrecks the integrity, but I feel like if a Pakistani factory can stitch it together, why couldn't a tailor with the proper machine do it as well? I would otherwise try to sell it but its a Fuji BJJ gi so its not like itll get huge resale on it. And yes I should have returned it but I thought I could shrink it more. My friend had his judo gi tailored, but he had to take it to a few places before he found a tailor who could work on it due to the unusual nature of his request. Shop around a bit. wedgie deliverer fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Sep 18, 2012 |
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Most of my school is composed of 30 to 50 year old dudes trying to stay in shape and be active. I'm 26 and one of the youngest people. Our instructor is also in his late forties or early 50s so maybe that affects the composition.
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I've signed up to my first kickboxing class, starting next week. I know it says "no DVD's" in the OP, but are they actually useful for training on your own between classes? If so, can anyone recommend any good DVD's for kickboxing?
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Pickman posted:I've signed up to my first kickboxing class, starting next week. I know it says "no DVD's" in the OP, but are they actually useful for training on your own between classes? If so, can anyone recommend any good DVD's for kickboxing? Once you've been training for a year or two then maybe worry about picking up a DVD for some supplemental stuff. For now just worry about what you learn in class.
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swagger like us posted:Anyone here ever alter or tailor a BJJ/Judo gi? I know some people swear that you should never do it because it wrecks the integrity, but I feel like if a Pakistani factory can stitch it together, why couldn't a tailor with the proper machine do it as well? I would otherwise try to sell it but its a Fuji BJJ gi so its not like itll get huge resale on it. And yes I should have returned it but I thought I could shrink it more. I had a gi altered, it was too big so I had the sleeves shortened and the actual gi shortened by a few inches on the waist part. It's still fine and I wear it all the time. Just find a tailor that can do it.
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Is there a real difference between a Judo gi and a BJJ gi? Should I be looking for one over the other if I want one for both? Also, blue ones are cool, but are they universally tourney legal? And where should I buy them? I heard good things about Padilla and Sons. It's been so drat long since I've been expected to train in pajamas.
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Thoguh posted:Once you've been training for a year or two then maybe worry about picking up a DVD for some supplemental stuff. For now just worry about what you learn in class. Yes just drill what they show you. You're wasting time doing anything
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Pickman posted:I've signed up to my first kickboxing class, starting next week. I know it says "no DVD's" in the OP, but are they actually useful for training on your own between classes? If so, can anyone recommend any good DVD's for kickboxing? Start running and lifting
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Novum posted:Is there a real difference between a Judo gi and a BJJ gi? Should I be looking for one over the other if I want one for both? Also, blue ones are cool, but are they universally tourney legal? And where should I buy them? I heard good things about Padilla and Sons. It's been so drat long since I've been expected to train in pajamas. Yes. Get a BJJ gi. They fit more comfortably, you won't have giant wizard's sleeves and they will be tournament legal. Blue BJJ gi's are tournament legal. Honestly, Fuji BJJ gi's are super cheap right now (i've found them for <$80) and they are as good as any other gi you'll find. Padilla & sons are good too. There's no point for a guy just getting into BJJ to buy some top of the line competition shoyoroll.
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Novum posted:Is there a real difference between a Judo gi and a BJJ gi? Should I be looking for one over the other if I want one for both? Also, blue ones are cool, but are they universally tourney legal? And where should I buy them? I heard good things about Padilla and Sons. It's been so drat long since I've been expected to train in pajamas. A BJJ gi won't be legal for judo competition and a Judo gi won't be as good for BJJ as a bjj gi since they are less fitted. For training a BJJ gi will be fine for judo unless your club has some weird policy about gis. If you want to do Judo comps, get a white (judo) gi. You can usually wear a white gi with a special blue belt at comps but for some reason you can't wear a blue gi with a white sesh. Ideally, you'd get one of both. But wait until you're sure you want to do both competitivly. Also, I've never seen a BJJ gi as thick and hard to grip as many judogi are. I don't know why that is since the rules are more lax in BJJ I think. Why wouldn't you want a ridiculously thick gi for comps? KingColliwog fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Sep 19, 2012 |
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So tonight was my 4th or 5th sparring session and man is this poo poo a lot of fun. It's surprising to me how it allows your creativity flow so easily, and I'm a scrub who doesn't know anything. I always feel good after an hour or so of drills and some bag work, but its nothing like a couple rounds of some full contact friendly sparring.
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Illumination posted:So tonight was my 4th or 5th sparring session and man is this poo poo a lot of fun. It's surprising to me how it allows your creativity flow so easily, and I'm a scrub who doesn't know anything. I always feel good after an hour or so of drills and some bag work, but its nothing like a couple rounds of some full contact friendly sparring. Reading your post history in this thread is great, you've gone from not knowing how to wrap your hands to actually sparring. Congrats man
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KingColliwog posted:A BJJ gi won't be legal for judo competition and a Judo gi won't be as good for BJJ as a bjj gi since they are less fitted. Thanks, this was important info. Will have to dig a little deeper for Judo specific pjs I think.
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mewse posted:Reading your post history in this thread is great, you've gone from not knowing how to wrap your hands to actually sparring. Congrats man Hahah, we can include posts from the YLLS boxing thread where my dainty hands couldn't deal with hitting the heavy bag too! Anyway, the little improvements over the past 3 or so months I've been doing this make it all the more worthwhile and enjoyable. Thanks for the kind words!
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Thoguh posted:Once you've been training for a year or two then maybe worry about picking up a DVD for some supplemental stuff. For now just worry about what you learn in class. Okay, I'll forget about it for now then. I have another question. How many days a week do people here train? My local MMA gym runs classes twice a week, but if I can get away with just showing up to one class a week that would save me a lot of time. I'm already fitting lifting two days a week and running one day into my weekly schedule.
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I do something for 2-4 hours every day. I workout mixed with kickboxing for 2 hours every other day, and go to jiu-jitsu as often as I can (2-4 nights per week for 1.5-2.5 hours). If I'm feeling up to it and on an off-workout day than I'll go for a 10k run (once or twice a week). I'm not training for any specific competition at the moment, just athletic performance and future jiu-jitsu competitions.
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Pickman posted:Okay, I'll forget about it for now then. I highly recommend you go twice a week if you can. I went to judo once a week for the first year or so and my progress was ridiculously slow. Just ditch the running day, your other class will probably give you enough cardio (and probably better cardio for boxing). I personally go to 3 classes of judo a week (two of them being back to back so it's only 2 nights of my time). I also go to anywhere from 0 to 3 1.5 hour BJJ "open mat" rolling sessions depending on my schedule (usually 1 per week but I can't always make it because of work and occasionally I can make it to all 3). This year I hope to add ~1 hour of practice time with a girl that needs to practice Nage No Kata to get her black belt. So i go to anywhere from 3 to 7 practices a week which amounts to anywhere from 5.5 to 10+ hours, but on average I'd say I do about 7 hours. That sounds like a lot and I would never have thought I'd do that much when I started/ thought people who training 4-5 times a week were insane, but it's really not that bad. I still manage to have a girlfriend, go out with friends regularly, have 2 jobs and weightlift/do some cardio. KingColliwog fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Sep 19, 2012 |
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swagger like us posted:Yes. Get a BJJ gi. They fit more comfortably, you won't have giant wizard's sleeves and they will be tournament legal. Blue BJJ gi's are tournament legal. This is a bad post. A BJJ Gi will not be tournament legal for Judo. A Judo club may or may not care for practice (My club doesn't, but it is kind of cheating so it is reasonable for a club to not want guys wearing BJJ gis to practice) but the cut of the sleeves certainly wouldn't be legal for competition. Not even close. As far as a Blue gi for Judo... if you only have one it should be white. There are tournaments that require both a white and blue gi (ussually only big tournaments do that, at smaller tournaments you just wear a blue sash) but there are zero circumstances where you need a blue gi but not a white one. At smaller tournaments if you show up with only a blue gi they'd have to totally rearrange the brackets for you so you were always on the "blue" side and most tournament directors aren't going to do that. If you are doing both BJJ and Judo and want to only have one gi it should be a white Judo Gi. If you get a second Gi go hog wild with whatever you feel like. Thoguh fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Sep 19, 2012 |
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Pickman posted:Okay, I'll forget about it for now then. I work shifts so I play it by what im working that week, some weeks i get about 6 hours martial arts training and a couple of hours gym time but other weeks I may only get 1-2 hours martial arts but more time in the gym It's awkward and I've only been working with these kind of shifts for a few month's so I'm still working out what works best for me.
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Pickman posted:Okay, I'll forget about it for now then. Before I moved to a new city I was training probably 5 to 6 days a week like it was my job. It's easier not to get burnt out when you're bouncing around between two or three different disciplines. But if you don't care about getting into a competitive arena (i.e. you have other actually important poo poo to do) then it's really not a big deal to train once or twice a week as a happy hobbyist. You'll still learn and have lots of fun.
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Yeah I would really recommend twice a week at minimum if possible. Also remember that poo poo comes up, and you wind up making it to the gym less often than you think. On a bad month, planning around two sessions a week might mean you actually only get in once a week. YMMV.
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In the same vein I have been toying with the idea of getting back into BJJ after 8 years now that I am no longer a fat gently caress. Here is the rub though, i travel for work allot, around 200+ nights in hotels a year. There is a Carlson school near my house that I could get to when I am in town. But how viable is it to gym hop during the week? I have a set rotation of cities i hit but would end up looking like hitting a school every few weeks a couple times. Worth it? Our should i put it on hold until life calms down a bit?
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Sardonic Adonis posted:In the same vein I have been toying with the idea of getting back into BJJ after 8 years now that I am no longer a fat gently caress. I'd at least go see the places you could go and see if they could arrange something for you.
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Thoguh posted:This is a bad post. You didnt read what I said, I said that a blue BJJ gi is legal for BJJ. I understood it as him asking if blue is an alright gi colour for BJJ, it is.
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KingColliwog posted:Is it standard for BJJ guys to just plain old suck at getting out of pins? Especially scarf hold (gesa)? As a judo blue/bjj white it always amazes me that I can get people much better technically and much stronger physically in a scarf hold and just play with them from there. If I heavily commit to a submission they manage to get out, but if I wanted to just stall the match there it feels like I could do so indefinitely. I have few submissions from the top (except from mount because I can just do what I do in guard) so I tend to spend a lot of time in gesa and such during BJJ matches trying to hunt for a sub. It always just surprises me that I can get away with it. In judo it's the opposite, people are horrible when they are in my guard and they will just give me the stupidest submission ever, but unless they are weaker/worst than me overall I usually can't keep them pinned all that long and if I manage to keep the pin they'll make me work for it really hard. I think at low levels, people who haven't been in a scarf hold before think it's some sort of special position which should be treated differently from regular side control so they stop and think about it too much. I've had judo dudes put me into it and I've always escaped it with the same bridge and hip escape that starts any other side control escape. I just checked my copy of Jiu-Jitsu University and the escapes from side control and kesa are almost identical, but the traditional side control escape has more options demonstrated beyond just returning to guard. If anything I prefer dealing with kesa because the threat of a transition to mount is much lower and the submission options require much bigger screw ups on my part.
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