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Sep 19, 2012 18:15
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There's no way these are stop-gap models. I don't think GWS ever does that. Either makes you use 10+ year old models or just brand new ones.
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Sep 19, 2012 18:38
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Holy poo poo Well, it's still unlisted, so they still haven't grasped the concept of promotional videos on the internet.
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Sep 19, 2012 18:39
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Phyresis posted:Mutilators look like
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Sep 19, 2012 18:47
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I think if you replaced the face they'd be pretty ok looking.
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Sep 19, 2012 18:50
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ghetto wormhole posted:I think if you replaced the face they'd be pretty ok looking. They are literally arm and head swaps on the current obliterator model. It's pretty bullshit, actually
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Sep 19, 2012 18:56
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Not related to any new (as in unreleased) models, but the DV Lord/Chosen really make the old CSM squad models look silly in my eyes. Not because of the baroque detail, which I can take or leave, but because they seem to be a head taller and correspondingly bulkier. They're about as big as a loyalist terminator from the same box. Hell, the Cultists are as big as an old Chaos Marine. I mean, I know human models next to Astartes has been a problem, hence the whole truescale thing in the first place, but this is the first time I've really had it brought home to me. Goddamn this triggering my OCD.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:01
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I'm wondering how stuff like this gets through the process. Who looks at these models and says "Ah, yes, these. These will sell." e: bleh, once you have the master it costs peanuts to make a Finecast mold and the resin doesn't cost anything either, so I guess it makes sense. Especially when you reuse the Obliterator bodies. Phyresis fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Sep 19, 2012 |
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Sep 19, 2012 19:01
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Phyresis posted:I'm wondering how stuff like this gets through the process. Who looks at these models and says "Ah, yes, these. These will sell." There should be a point where the technical lead sits in silence while looking at the mini, then with his face contorted with rage smashes it to bits with a hammer.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:07
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Phyresis posted:I'm wondering how stuff like this gets through the process. Who looks at these models and says "Ah, yes, these. These will sell." uh 
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Sep 19, 2012 19:07
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Thundercracker posted:There's no way these are stop-gap models. I don't think GWS ever does that. Either makes you use 10+ year old models or just brand new ones. My FLGS is always trying to get rid of these. They had three on the shelves and I was offered them at like 50% off and stuff because they just weren't selling. I still said no.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:10
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Phyresis posted:Who looks at these models and says "Ah, yes, these. These will sell." Someone who has read the rules/fluff and met nerdgamers before.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:10
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JesustheDarkLord posted:Someone who has read the rules/fluff and met nerdgamers before. if those goofy melty faced turds are little two wound TH/SS terminators with Shred and Rampage you better loving believe people will buy them.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:15
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JesustheDarkLord posted:Someone who has read the rules/fluff and met nerdgamers before. frest posted:if those goofy melty faced turds are little two wound TH/SS terminators with Shred and Rampage you better loving believe people will buy them. I don't know man, they sound like utter crap from what the rumors say. Three man units of 2-wound "Terminators" that can change their hands into dildos and chainsaws, that sounds like a waste of an Elite slot to me.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:17
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Another point raised on Warseer is that they might have rushed these Oblits out to protect their IP and stop another company releasing models, ala Chapterhouse and the Tervigon all over again.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:19
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Phyresis posted:I don't know man, they sound like utter crap from what the rumors say. Three man units of 2-wound "Terminators" that can change their hands into dildos and chainsaws, that sounds like a waste of an Elite slot to me. I don't personally see the room in my army for a dedicated close combat unit in 6E. Chaos is generally pretty good at shooting and above average in assault, and all these new models look like they shoot pretty well. Fearless cultists to tarpit and squat on objectives, Heldrake and Dinobots to kill the enemy, and Chosen to look bad rear end and make me feel bad about my suitcase of old army men.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:20
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Put some terminator heads on them and I think they would look a lot more bearable.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:23
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We still don't know what they are competing against in their slot. If they are elites and they are up against the cheap chaos terminators, chosen (with awesome DV models), Possessed (great models, hopefully better rules now), standard Obliterators and maybe some sort of demon engine, then unless they are dirt cheap in points they would be a terrible choice. A lot depends on which slots things end up in, and whether characters can change the availability of models. There are no new named character models in the release list so far (or new versions of old characters), so we may have to wait to find out. Hopefully the Chaos Techmarine allows you to take more demon engines/hellbrutes/chaos dreadnoughts so Chaos can do a master of the forge style list.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:23
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I like dedicated CC units as long as they can close the distance, like Thunderwolf Cavalry (unfortunately the meta is shifting against them  ). I don't have use for guys who have to slog (or deep strike in and then sit around with their thumbs up their asses), especially when you can't field enough of them to make a decent sized unit. To top it off, I can see these guys being around 75 points each according to GW's convoluted "logic" when it comes to pricing units, if the rumored rules are correct.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:23
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Lungboy posted:Another point raised on Warseer is that they might have rushed these Oblits out to protect their IP and stop another company releasing models, ala Chapterhouse and the Tervigon all over again. If GW of all companies can't produce a model they invented faster than a third party working from their supposedly tightly controlled rumors, then all is lost.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:28
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Fix posted:If GW of all companies can't produce a model they invented faster than a third party working from their supposedly tightly controlled rumors, then all is lost. I personally know a sculpter who would have done a far better job than those wrecks. Why wont you give him a job GW
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Sep 19, 2012 19:37
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Fix posted:If GW of all companies can't produce a model they invented faster than a third party working from their supposedly tightly controlled rumors, then all is lost. True, but there could be loads of reasons they'd want to rush out a kit to cover their arses, then update it properly at their leisure. The obvious one is that they couldn't get the new kit looking quite right, or fitting together properly as a dual kit, in time for this release. If you notice, every kit (other than the Sorc and Aspie) in this release is brand new IP for which they didn't already have a model. It's probably a huge coincidence, but it also looks like they learnt from the Nid gently caress up.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:37
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Lungboy posted:Another point raised on Warseer is that they might have rushed these Oblits out to protect their IP and stop another company releasing models, ala Chapterhouse and the Tervigon all over again. The Tervigon thing was such an utter fail on GWS's part. A unit that everyone knew was one of the must-haves in the Tyranid army that they didn't have a model for until, what? a year later? By then I'd already converted two from Carnifexs, and I suspect so did every 'Nid player who actually wanted one.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:41
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Lungboy posted:True, but there could be loads of reasons they'd want to rush out a kit to cover their arses, then update it properly at their leisure. The obvious one is that they couldn't get the new kit looking quite right, or fitting together properly as a dual kit, in time for this release. If you notice, every kit (other than the Sorc and Aspie) in this release is brand new IP for which they didn't already have a model. It's probably a huge coincidence, but it also looks like they learnt from the Nid gently caress up. It's far, far, infinitely far more likely they just made a lovely model.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:43
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Thundercracker posted:The Tervigon thing was such an utter fail on GWS's part. A unit that everyone knew was one of the must-haves in the Tyranid army that they didn't have a model for until, what? a year later? Over two years, and certain unnamed individuals had also converted two but went and bought Tervigons anyway. I swear, Tyranid players have Stockholm Syndrome.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:46
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Maybe they can have MoSlaanesh and a Lash of Submission ability that pulls units into combat with them. I'd buy lots.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:49
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DA Successor Inner Circle:
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Sep 19, 2012 19:49
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GW releasing a finecast/metal kit and then soon replacing it with plastic isn't unheard of. The Hive Tyrant and Possessed spring to mind.
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Sep 19, 2012 19:53
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JesustheDarkLord posted:Maybe they can have MoSlaanesh and a Lash of Submission ability that pulls units into combat with them. I'd buy lots. Hah! That'd justify their lovely stances. Their arms are wide open to give some power hugs!
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Sep 19, 2012 19:56
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Big Willy Style posted:GW releasing a finecast/metal kit and then soon replacing it with plastic isn't unheard of. The Hive Tyrant and Possessed spring to mind. Those possessed were some of the worst models GW's made. And just because not everyone has seen these beauties...  You can thank me later.
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Sep 19, 2012 20:04
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Fix posted:First not legal combat squad done! Nice work, Fix.
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Sep 19, 2012 20:15
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I have enough trouble trying to figure out why I should bother with the current Obliterators, so I doubt I'll even consider the melee type. If someone can actually explain why Obliterators are good then by all means feel free, I'd love to know. 75 points seems like a lot for a multi-wound model that still dies to a single melta or lascannon shot if the 5+ invul fails (which it probably will).
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Sep 19, 2012 20:16
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I like the direction of the troops a lot. The helmets, in particular, look how Chaos should look. They look like Power Armored marines that evolved in their own way. Now... how the gently caress am I supposed to convert my boxed CSM to look like that?? Better learn to sculpt better I guess... Honey Badger posted:The Aspiring Champion and Chosen are the only models that really wow me. Those CC Obliterators look worse than the ranged Obliterators, which is saying something. I was hoping to be able to use them to convert regular Obliterators that didn't look like someone stepped in gum, but jokes on me! 100% with you. I really dig the look of the chosen and the champ (I'd make them my troops if I could, but am limited to only so many poses damnit!). I like the old raptors more, especially because of their backpacks.
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Sep 19, 2012 20:25
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Sykic posted:I have enough trouble trying to figure out why I should bother with the current Obliterators, so I doubt I'll even consider the melee type. This was always my experience. I ended up just taking a Vindicator instead.
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Sep 19, 2012 20:26
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Safety Factor posted:Those possessed were some of the worst models GW's made. And just because not everyone has seen these beauties... Gary Morley's last gleaming
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Sep 19, 2012 20:38
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Mango Polo posted:Hey, it's a Fellblade. I'm surprised they're finally coming out with Marine superheavy tanks as opposed to IG superheavies.
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Sep 19, 2012 20:41
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Baruch Obamawitz posted:I'm surprised they're finally coming out with Marine superheavy tanks as opposed to IG superheavies. Perhaps Guard players have started to run out of money and they want to tap into the un-drained wallets of their Marine brethren.
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Sep 19, 2012 20:44
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Sykic posted:I have enough trouble trying to figure out why I should bother with the current Obliterators, so I doubt I'll even consider the melee type. Well they are toughness 5 so they are only going to bite the dust from demolisher cannons or warboss power klaws. 2+ save is even better in 6th. I use them to get a couple of volleys of fire, then as a road block that a unit has to fight through if they want to get to my scoring units. Also, overwatch twin plasma can be pretty handy. That and they are the only really viable elites choice in the current CSM dex.
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