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If you enjoyed it and want a sequel, spread the word, tell people who you think might enjoy it. Picking up after a poor opening is hard, but it's not impossible for a fun, niche film to gain a good following organically, especially when you can point to good reviews from respected critics. What ARE the US critics saying anyway?
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Not great, a lot of whining that it's derivative (which I don't get). I read Manohla Dargis' brief review and I feel like it went over her head which is weird and disappointing.quote:It’s bang, bang, splat, splat for the 98 unmodulated minutes that are “Dredd 3D,” an action movie written by Alex Garland and directed by Pete Travis. Grim, gory and devoid of pleasure, kinetic or otherwise, this is the second big-screen take on the British comics series Judge Dredd, after a 1995 Sylvester Stallone vehicle best remembered for Sly’s shiny, oversize codpiece. Like that movie, this one takes place in ye olde dystopia, a neo-wild West in which the gizmos look futuristic, but everything else — the drooling cretins, generic innocents, slathering villainy and fascistic overtones — is B-movie familiar, although with 100 percent more digitally enhanced carnage. I thought it was pretty clear that Mega City One is hosed up and that the Police State wasn't helping.
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Sep 23, 2012 21:39
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Well poo poo Dredd didn't even make top 5 in the US, even the 2nd week of Resident Evil and re-release of Finding Nemo have beaten it 
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Sep 23, 2012 22:15
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Which reviewers in the US really matter when it comes to movies these days? If any. Is Ebert still relevant or do reviewers no longer influence how a movie does in any noticable way? Looking at Rotten Tomatoes there are positive reviews from USA Today, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, NPR, Entertainment Weekly and Associated Press. MSN Movies has both a fresh and a rotten review from, naturally, two different people.
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Sep 23, 2012 22:17
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It got pretty fantastic press over here in the UK and there were only 2 reviews that were in any way negative. Are US reviewers just not getting it and not seeing it for what it actually is or what? I'm disappointed that despite the fantastic press over here it's doing fairly poorly. I'm off to see it again tomorrow evening but it's kinda sad that it doesn't appear to be doing the business despite being a solid enough film. That the new Resident Evil will outsell it despite being an absolute turd is somewhat depressing. I want a couple of sequels.
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Sep 23, 2012 22:17
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MrBling posted:Which reviewers in the US really matter when it comes to movies these days? All of them collectively, none of them individually. Everyone I know checks Rottentomatoes.
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Sep 23, 2012 23:00
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After reading about the poor box-office I have made it my mission to make everyone I know go see this film. Failure to do so will be punishable by Facebook deletion. *Judge Dredd face*
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It's really disappointing that this is getting poor box office. It absolutely deserves sequels. Let's hope that dvd sales are enough to greenlight a sequel. Honestly this movie just wasn't marketed correctly. Gonna echo what's been said here, the fact that Judge Dredd didn't kill those kids, seriously undermined the character of Judge Dredd and the idea that Judges are mercilessly fascist and violent people. A lot of reviews complain that the film glorifies fascism but I feel the scene where Anderson and Dredd bust into that woman's apartment and Anderson learns she reluctantly executed the woman's husband and the father of her child did enough for the film to highlight the problems with the police state and the logical conclusion to "Tough On Crime." I'm probably the only one here who thinks the film did the character more justice than the comic books themselves. The comic books have stuff like zombie judges and time travel and so on and so on. This was a seriously grounded film with an extremely grounded Judge Dredd. And that's awesome. Nelson Mandingo fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Sep 23, 2012 |
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Sep 23, 2012 23:44
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Just saw this. Very much appreciated how the female protagonist saved herself. Dredd owns. Ma-Ma owns. Alex Garland is still one of the best screenwriters working today.
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I saw it earlier today. The theater had about 25 people in it, so it was more than I expected. But also keep in mind that it was a nice Sunday so the parking lot wasn't even partially full (Noon time). I really enjoyed it. It was nice seeing a hard R action flick again. It felt like the film was lost in time from the 80s. It was nice and pretty disturbing to see a hard-boiled cop film where those "out of line" action of said cop was considering the norm and was pretty much a requirement. It probably could have done more to hammer home the fact that Dredd was a terrible entity part of a terrible system to counter-balance the sheer badass moments and lines he had but as an introductory film it would have probably turned general audiences off to sequels (which I hope get made). It's probably better they slowly add more and more of that stuff in future films. But yeah, film was goddamn glorious. I'll most likely see it again before it is out of theaters, I really did enjoy it.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Gonna echo what's been said here, the fact that Judge Dredd didn't kill those kids, seriously undermined the character of Judge Dredd and the idea that Judges are mercilessly fascist and violent people. A lot of reviews complain that the film glorifies fascism but I feel the scene where Anderson and Dredd bust into that woman's apartment and Anderson learns she reluctantly executed the woman's husband and the father of her child did enough for the film to highlight the problems with the police state and the logical conclusion to "Tough On Crime." Honestly, I think that's going too far. As a filmmaker, you have to strike a balance between a likeable hero and fascist monster with a character like that and killing kids outright would firmly make him into an unlikeable monster. It would've been enough if he had just sent the kids to prison since it shows how unwavering he is to the law and how loving ridiculous the situation is without making him into a child killer.
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VoodooXT posted:Honestly, I think that's going too far. As a filmmaker, you have to strike a balance between a likeable hero and fascist monster with a character like that and killing kids outright would firmly make him into an unlikeable monster. It would've been enough if he had just sent the kids to prison since it shows how unwavering he is to the law and how loving ridiculous the situation is without making him into a child killer. Yeah, I would have thought being tazed was bad enough. If you go too far you kill the audience's excitement for "as for you Ma-Ma... judgement time."
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Just got back from seeing it. Totally kicked rear end. Holy poo poo it was so nice to see an action/adventure movie that isn't just a bunch of confusing bullshit buildup for the sequels they hope to make. Pretty much everything about it was perfect to me. The story, the visual style, the cast, the music...I could go on. It sucks to hear it bombed because pretty much anyone who is fond of good 80's/90's action movies would eat this movie up. Maybe it will make it's money in DVD sales after people start to notice the good reviews. I can't really blame anyone for not wanting to see a Dredd movie after the Stallone piece of poo poo. I wouldn't have seen it myself if i hadn't noticed that Alex Garland wrote it. I'll be seeing it again in theaters (3d next time) and buying the Blu-Ray for sure. Edit: It went from 90 to 77% on Rotten Tomatoes? WTF. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Sep 24, 2012 |
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Sep 24, 2012 03:30
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I saw this movie two day ago. I never heard about this movie and the only information I knew about the source material was when a few years ago when I posted one of my comic books online and explained its back story, people kept telling me that it sounded so similar to Judge Dredd. And I said, "what the gently caress is Judge Dredd?". They replied its similar to my story and it had a movie ten years ago and it sucked rear end. EDIT - The said comic is actually in my avatar. I came in expecting comic book film #4589 in the future, and was blown away with 80s Sci-Fi Hyper Masculine Action Film. One of the biggest surprises since Scott Pilgrim. Not surprised this bombed. If you people want to know why we keep getting Bayformers and 12 year old boy comic fests this is why. For every high grossing film that breaks the mold in mundane like Inception you get Scott Pilgrims and Dredds. Also I found it annoying in the film when we first see Anderson and she is sensing Dredd and the other officer behind the window screen. She starts describing Dredd as cold and hard but then is about to say that he's cute and fuzzy in the inside, but got cut off. Man that was cheesy in a bad way. Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Just saw this. Very much appreciated how the female protagonist saved herself. Film portrayals of females have come a long loving way. punk rebel ecks fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Sep 24, 2012 |
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Sep 24, 2012 05:52
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Man, after seeing TDKR and Expendables 2 in theaters this year, I thought I was just getting numb with action movies because they didn't really do anything for me. I was wrong, because Dredd was pretty loving awesome. I normally hate bullet time stuff, but the way they did the Slo Mo scenes was fantastic. I think the greatest strength to the movie's plot was simplicity. It's just a drug bust. The movie doesn't try to beat you over the head with it's message (aside from the dead husband scene), but the let you infer it for yourself. Definitely grabbing this on Bluray when it comes out.
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I saw this in a nice clean upscale theater in Bangkok that only had about 30 people in the early afternoon showing. When the lights went on a dazed 70ish something year old Thai lady was being helped out the door by her grand daughter. After the movie I saw the whole family looking at the Dredd display watching the "making of" trailer with Alex Garland talking. Old Thai lady seems to approve. Also, around the hour mark you usually hear restless shifting around especially if Thai audiences don't "get" it. The theater was dead silent throughout the entire running time. You could hear a pin drop. I was surprised by this movie. I just watched about 8 recent releases that I thought were pretty much stinkers. This caught me totally off guard. Well done Mr. Garland, Travis, and co. I think Danny Boyle's take on this would have been interesting too. I think one reason why this isn't much of a hit in the U.S. is because the trailer wasn't all that great and Dredd himself is conceptually camp material until you take a closer look at it. edit: There probably won't be a sequel anytime soon since it's doing abysmally in the box office but I bet this will clean up on video. It's just that kind of movie. If there is a sequel it'll probably be another decade plus. Modus Operandi fucked around with this message at 06:36 on Sep 24, 2012 |
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Sep 24, 2012 06:25
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NESguerilla posted:Edit: It went from 90 to 77% on Rotten Tomatoes? WTF. Some reviewers are being stupid. http://www.avclub.com/articles/dredd,85173/
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VoodooXT posted:Honestly, I think that's going too far. As a filmmaker, you have to strike a balance between a likeable hero and fascist monster with a character like that and killing kids outright would firmly make him into an unlikeable monster. It would've been enough if he had just sent the kids to prison since it shows how unwavering he is to the law and how loving ridiculous the situation is without making him into a child killer. Here is the problem with that. Those kids outright threatened homicide of a Judge. The movie pounds it into your head that it's an automatic death sentence to be carried out automatically. Judge Dredd personifies The Law and I think the audience is smart enough to realize that. He wouldn't do it with malice or hatred. It's just The Law. Though you are probably right, the ending could have shown them being escorted out of the building instead of just disappearing.
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Sentinel Red posted:As great and awesome the Face of Fear/Fist of Dredd moment would be to see on screen, I have a soft spot for the story where Death is hiding out quietly killing in a more restrained fashion and renting a room from a sweet, little old lady who obviously must need new glasses and a better sense of smell. If memory serves, the thing with her was that she was so dull she was considered to have No Life and therefore be beyond the Dark Judge's reach.
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Nelson Mandingo posted:Here is the problem with that. Those kids outright threatened homicide of a Judge. The movie pounds it into your head that it's an automatic death sentence to be carried out automatically. Judge Dredd personifies The Law and I think the audience is smart enough to realize that. He wouldn't do it with malice or hatred. It's just The Law. Though you are probably right, the ending could have shown them being escorted out of the building instead of just disappearing. I just assumed there were different rules for minors. When he was talking about their punishment, which I believe was X time in the isocubes, it seemed pretty clear that this is the standard sentence for when a CHILD threatens a judge, not death but imprisonment. our own justice systems punish minors differently than adults, there's no reason to believe it's different in megacity 1
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I saw this yesterday afternoon and goddamn that was amazing. Fatkraken posted:I just assumed there were different rules for minors. There are, he specifically mentions the Juve-Cubes. punk rebel ecks posted:Also I found it annoying in the film when we first see Anderson and she is sensing Dredd and the other officer behind the window screen. She starts describing Dredd as cold and hard but then is about to say that he's cute and fuzzy in the inside, but got cut off. Man that was cheesy in a bad way. I'm got the exact opposite impression, she'd somehow sensed his origin (a big secret!) and that's why the other judge cut her off. If the sequel rumors involving the dark judges ever pan out it would matter that Dredd was created in a lab to be the best judge ever, but the scientist responsible went on to make more clones (the Judda) including Judge Kraken who goes on to be a key player in Necropolis (Comics spoilers.)
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moths posted:I'm got the exact opposite impression, she'd somehow sensed his origin (a big secret!) and that's why the other judge cut her off. If the sequel rumors involving the dark judges ever pan out it would matter that Dredd was created in a lab to be the best judge ever, but the scientist responsible went on to make more clones (the Judda) including Judge Kraken who goes on to be a key player in Necropolis (Comics spoilers.) Yeah, I don't know much about the comics, but I got the impression she was alluding to an even darker secret, not a deep-down-heart-of-gold.
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moths posted:I saw this yesterday afternoon and goddamn that was amazing. I don't know Dredd mythology but that's is what I got from it. The only time that the movie really set itself for a sequel.
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My only gripe was that Dredd never fired a single ricochet round to cap a perp throughout the entire film. Other than that I bloody well loved it from beginning to end.
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Caught this the other night, it was def great, best comic book movie of the year pretty easily (even though I enjoyed Avengers, Batman and Ghost Rider) and one of the best action movies too. Hell, I liked it better than The Raid. I think my favorite thing about it is how real Megacity One looked. Like, I'm having a hard time thinking of another movie that was enhanced so much by budgetary limitations. The lack of tons of CGI gussying it up made it incredibly tactile - it's the most scarily plausible looking dystopia since Children of Men.
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This movie was great. The only thing which was odd was when Dredd and Anderson come out of the building. No one gives a poo poo, says anything to them, Anderson walks off and the chief lady comes up and asks if she passed. Are they unwaware that these two just killed about 100 people and took down a huge gang and drug manufacturing plant?
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henpod posted:This movie was great. The only thing which was odd was when Dredd and Anderson come out of the building. No one gives a poo poo, says anything to them, Anderson walks off and the chief lady comes up and asks if she passed. Are they unwaware that these two just killed about 100 people and took down a huge gang and drug manufacturing plant? Just another day at the office. I really liked the fact that no one gave a poo poo, it made everyone seem soulless and completely jaded.
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henpod posted:The only thing which was odd was when Dredd and Anderson come out of the building. No one gives a poo poo, says anything to them, Anderson walks off and the chief lady comes up and asks if she passed. Are they unwaware that these two just killed about 100 people and took down a huge gang and drug manufacturing plant? I think that was intentional. It seems like a lot to the audience, but to the judges, this is just another day on the beat.
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It also gave the impression that they've all seen much worse. Which makes me very sad that there probably won't be any sequels now.
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henpod posted:This movie was great. The only thing which was odd was when Dredd and Anderson come out of the building. No one gives a poo poo, says anything to them, Anderson walks off and the chief lady comes up and asks if she passed. Are they unwaware that these two just killed about 100 people and took down a huge gang and drug manufacturing plant? It's less that they're not aware and more that that's really not out of the ordinary. e;fb
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Another thing about this movie that John Layman pointed out on Twitter: the end credits put John Wagner and Carlos Ezquerra's credit right front and center, in contrast to, oh, every other comic book movie to come out this year.
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:I think my favorite thing about it is how real Megacity One looked. Like, I'm having a hard time thinking of another movie that was enhanced so much by budgetary limitations. The lack of tons of CGI gussying it up made it incredibly tactile - it's the most scarily plausible looking dystopia since Children of Men. Yeah, there's a thread in D&D at the moment called 'The Future of American Cities & Politics' or something nearabouts, and seeing that title makes me think of the film's version of MegaCity One. It felt depressingly plausible. And yeah, the prominent credit to the creators was another nice touch.
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Sentinel Red posted:Yeah, there's a thread in D&D at the moment called 'The Future of American Cities & Politics' or something nearabouts, and seeing that title makes me think of the film's version of MegaCity One. It felt depressingly plausible. To be fair, in most other comic book movies, I'd say comic book creators would be embarrassed to have their names associated with the product. And yes, modern America is basically a low-to-moderate level 80s sci-fi dystopia. Hooray.
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Crackerman posted:It also gave the impression that they've all seen much worse. Which makes me very sad that there probably won't be any sequels now. Pretty much this. Dredd was rattling off statistics throughout the whole film like "One in five judges die on their first day" and "Judges only answer six percent of the 911 calls answered." poo poo is hosed.
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LtKenFrankenstein posted:Another thing about this movie that John Layman pointed out on Twitter: the end credits put John Wagner and Carlos Ezquerra's credit right front and center, in contrast to, oh, every other comic book movie to come out this year. To be fair, Dredd in the movie bears a much closer resemblance to Wagner and Ezquerra's Dredd than, say, Dark Knight Batman does to anything Bob Kane and Bill Finger ever did. Who would you credit on Dark Knight Rises, Kane and Finger? Sure they invented Batman, but what about Frank Miller, the film batman owes a hell of a lot to his vision of the character, and probably to dozens of other batman interpretations over the years. Same with Avengers, the characters on screen are based on the work of dozens of different creative teams who given their own take on the characters over the years
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Fatkraken posted:To be fair, Dredd in the movie bears a much closer resemblance to Wagner and Ezquerra's Dredd than, say, Dark Knight Batman does to anything Bob Kane and Bill Finger ever did. Who would you credit on Dark Knight Rises, Kane and Finger? Sure they invented Batman, but what about Frank Miller, the film batman owes a hell of a lot to his vision of the character, and probably to dozens of other batman interpretations over the years. Same with Avengers, the characters on screen are based on the work of dozens of different creative teams who given their own take on the characters over the years Bob Kane always gets a created by credit. Bill Finger gets nothing
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Well, thanks for giving away the punchline of the film, jerk My bad.
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