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XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007

Sarion posted:

Yeah, keep demanding evidence for where it happens. Also, in response to it being a sad fact of the world "these days", the Supreme Court ruling that said schools could not force kids to say it was in 1943, more than a decade before "Under God" was added. It was in response to Christians who viewed pledging to the flag to be idolatry. So as long as "these days" consists of the last 70 years, I guess she's right!

There are a few places where the lower courts have ruled that the words "Under God" are unconstitutional, but to my knowledge it doesn't stop the pledge from being said in schools, they might have to omit the words, not entirely sure how that works.
I don't know for a fact, but if I had to guess, I would say they simply do it anyway? School administrators are not always up to date on Supreme Court rulings.

XyloJW fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Sep 25, 2012

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Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
Oh man, guys, forget the flag, we got huge problems to worry about!

My mom's coworkers are all largely Mormon and Tea Party people. I don't think I was supposed to be on this forward, but holy poo poo, guys, America is toast!

quote:

URGENT: A few days ago we sent you a warning about a secret plan Obama and his one-world comrades are cooking up. Obama, “America’s Fraud President” is still planning the overthrow of all we hold dear, all that is constitutionally sacred and all that we believe in. How can this be?

Obama is about to order the execution of his Executive Order 13603. This is not an “if” but a “WHEN”!

Executive Order 13603 was recently uncovered by the Tea Party Research Team—it’s one of those stealth maneuvers America’s Fraud President likes to pull as he pulls the wool over the eyes of innocent Americans.



We know that we stumbled upon what was supposed to be a big secret—a real hush-hush move made by O’Scuma. It is our duty as Americans to expose his malevolent agenda to you and to all Americans.

Let me tell you: if you thought that voting God out of the Democrat Party was wicked, wait till you hear this.

The Tea Party reported to you a few weeks ago that on March 16, 2012 Obama (America’s Fraud President) wrote and signed Executive Order 13603 naming it: “National Defense Resources Preparedness,” and while a few conservative media outlets wrote a handful of stories about this outrageous Executive Order, the interest died out.

The pieces of the Obama puzzle are falling into place and his sinister plan is emerging clearer than ever: Use of weapons of mass destruction on Americans!

Through Executive Order 13603 Obama gave himself the power to control all vital aspects of our beloved nation.

The more the Tea Party Research team digs, the more we discover about the execution of Obama’s America-killing plan as it unfolds—and it is HORRIBLE. Beyond the worst you can imagine.

Take a look at some of the sinister and menacing forces that will be put into motion. They are weapons of mass destruction!

Seizing of all forms of civil transportation

Do you realize what this means? Obama specially wrote “civil” NOT “public” transportation. In the name of a national emergency (which Obama has yet to define which, in turn, means he can define it any way he wants) he can grab ALL forms of transportation civilians use, including:

Automobiles, trucks and delivery vehicles

Boats and ships

Your cars, your children’s cars and even grandma’s car

City buses

Trains

Airplanes

Motorcycles

Bicycles

Scooters, skateboards and wagons

Horse and buggies

Snowmobiles

Tractors (Yes, some people drive to town on tractors)
A secret plan went into action right under our noses a few months ago—the very plan the Blame Stream Media deliberately hid from the American people.

Obama forgot to tell you that he can grab ALL FORMS OF CIVIL TRANSPORTATION, didn’t he? How convenient to keep the good citizens of America in the dark.

But it doesn’t stop there.

While other groups are asleep at the wheel and playing politics your Tea Party has been at work exposing the rat in the White House.

Obama doesn’t stop at just grabbing transportation but will grab the food out of your mouth. He will also grab”

All commodities and products capable of being ingested by either human beings or animals. In other words all food products, growing, picked and in store, including:

Farm crops

Inventory in grocery stores

Grandmas garden vegetables

Your canned goods

Dog food and livestock feed

Survival food cache

Fish from fish farms

Fruit from orchards
The lame stream media not only turned a blind eye to Obama’s evil deeds but has refused to comment on the Obama grab when presented with the facts! The Main Blame media is NOT your friend.

Ready for more?

Health resources, which include, but are not limited to: drugs, biological products, medical devices, materials, facilities, health supplies, services and equipment. This includes:

Hospitals

Vitamin stores

Wheel chair suppliers

Oxygen providers

Drug stores

First Aid supplies

Red Cross

Medical insurance companies
And the savage takeover of America doesn’t end there. Obama gives the power to government to take over…

All forms of energy:

Solar energy farms

Wind turbine projects

Niagara Falls electric plant

Your home generator

Hydro-electric dams

City power plants
All usable water from all sources:

Mississippi River
The Great Lakes

Colorado River and all rivers

All ponds

All wells

All water sheds

All snow melts

All bottled water companies
Yep, COMPLETE GOVERNMENT CONTROL OF IT ALL!!!! If this does not frighten you out of your wits, I don’t know what will.

The Tea Party Research Team is discovering more everyday about “America’s Fraud President.”

Sound impossible? If you don’t believe what we are saying then look up Executive Order 13603 yourself. I assure you this one thing: you will be shocked and frightened beyond anything you have ever known.

I can also tell you this: the Tea Party has been examining the Obama records from day one. Why? Because it has been proven time after time Obama is a liar and cheat. This is why he has earned the name “America’s Fraud President.”

He has lied to the American people about his college transcripts, his law license, his birth certificate and his master piece ObamaCare and ObamaTax.

If you have not seen it yet I strongly urge you to go see the documentary, 2016. You will be shocked and appalled at what you learn. You will be shocked at how Obama’s ideologies were formed and by what his true plan is for subverting our country.

I guarantee you that by the end of the film, the entire puzzle will come together and you will see why we have been screaming FRAUD all along.

The big picture will come completely into focus.

And, you will see that the Tea Party is gravely alarmed with very good reason—and understand why you should be, too.

Executive Order 13603 is another piece to the puzzle that brings together Obama’s evil master plan.

How can you help? Donate now to help us spread the word far and wide about the atrocities being committed—and those being set in motion—by America’s Fraud President.





You might ask: now how could he pull this off? I’ll tell you exactly how.

When Obama is defeated on the night of November 6, 2012 he will remain president until Romney is sworn in on January 20, 2013. That gives Obama over 74 days to do anything he can to finish his socialist agenda and possibly hurl America into such a deep, dark abyss that we may never recover!

Here’s what’s even more frightening:

Obama could grab America before the end of the elections!

How do we know this? Read the analysis yourself.

Why is Obama not worried about winning the election?

Obama is going to sledgehammer Executive Order 13603 into America no matter what the outcome of the elections may be.

He has already demonstrated he will write any executive order, take any action and lie any way he can to complete his master agenda: the total and complete conversion of our Free-Enterprise Republic into a government-controlled socialist regime.

Obama, with great glee, signed on March 16, 2012, his Executive Order 13603 redefining and creating new policy about America’s National Defense.

Obama’s Executive order 13603 is “National Defense Resources Preparedness.”

Mr. Obama – YOU SHALL FAIL!!!! We will NOT let you take America to her knees.

The Tea Party has risen to prevent your re-election.

The day of big government will come to an end. The bailouts will stop and the grab for America will fail. We The People will not stand by and watch our beloved nation be turned into a socialist state run by global communists.

We stand here and say: We are mad as hell and we are not going to take it anymore!

ATTENTION ALL TEA PARTY MEMBERS: Don’t forget the…..



The Tea Party shall not elect any group who:

Fires God

Votes to turn their back on Israel

Demands higher taxes

Bails out Wall Street

Forces ObamaCare/ObamaTax down the throats of America

Tries to turn our free-enterprise republic into a government run communist state
Hey Barack! George W. Bush did something you can’t: He held America together on September 11th and paved the way for Seal Team 6 to kill Osama bin Laden.

Are you starting to get the picture?

Do you think Obama would have issued this type of executive order if he thought he would be replaced by Romney or some other non-donkey party candidate?

What does Obama know that we don’t?

Now do you understand why Obama and his minions MUST be defeated this coming November–and Congress must immediately act to impeach him so he cannot call up any emergency in his remaining 74 days in office?

The Tea Party is comprised of all races, religions, all walks of life, retired, unemployed and over-employed, a true cross-cut of America and we are tens of millions strong.

With our Tea Party power we must use our political muscle. We MUST deliver the KNOCKOUT BLOW to Obama.

Listen Up: The Tea Party has America’s back!

It is time to get off the couch and support our efforts to expose the rat in the White House…and I mean now. Obama, “America’s Fraud President” is growing more dangerous by the day.

Please Donate Now to help us get the word out…help us make those MILLION PLUS phone calls to expose America’s Fraud President and all his latest frauds like Executive Order 13603.

With less than 10 weeks to the election we HAVE to bring people up-to-date on the latest findings on this deadly executive order along with his fraudulent birth records.

In case you missed it, we now have evidence, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that Obama is America’s Fraud President. For starters, he presented a FORGED COPY OF HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE to the American public. He’s hiding something huge.

The evidence is as clear as day. Won’t you please help us? Stand up and take aim. The only way we are going to defeat his sinister plan is to stand up and fight it every step of the way.

Are you with me? Can we count on you?

Please say YES and DONATE TODAY to help us keep going with our campaign to EXPOSE AMERICA’S FRAUD PRESIDENT and take out this imminent and deadly threat.





You are the hope for America. When the chips are down the American people come through every time. Many recognize the internal destruction causing havoc in America but feel powerless and don’t know what to do next.

Well the Tea Party has the answer and it is to empower you!

Please give money please give money. This is totally legit.

I mean, no one lies on the Internet!

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

I didn't make it past "Tea Party Research Team". One crazy person writing emails counts as a "research team" now?

(I lied, I made it to "Your cars, your children’s cars and even grandma’s car". Oh. My. God. Not grandma's car too! OBAMA, THAT'S A BRIDGE TOO FAR)

RoboChrist 9000
Dec 14, 2006

Mater Dolorosa
I believe you mean Obama (America's Fraud President).

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻

Cowslips Warren posted:

An old coworker posted on Facebook how it is super sad that kids don't say the Pledge in public school anymore, because it offends people. People get so offended these days, it's not like when we were kids!

I asked her why and where the Pledge was banned.

Another of her friends chimed in that it's banned because 'it mentions religion and a lot of people aren't religious, so no one can say it. It's sad but that's how the world is now.'

I wrote up a pretty big reply, and found that I wasn't able to comment any longer. The equivalent of 'psh, whatever!' pisses me off so goddamn much.

So I asked her, or tried to, JUST WHERE THE gently caress THIS HAPPENS. Anyone know a public American school where you can't say the Pledge anymore because 'those pissy liberals got offended."

"I recited the Pledge of allegiance at school.

Now, learn that my kids at a completely different school do not! Political correctness :argh:"

What kind of rear end-backwards fascist movement starts by making people ashamed of their country and heritage?

Mitchicon
Nov 3, 2006

Why are all these crazy emails

typically written in this format?


Do they think

that spacing the text

in this manner

makes it more dramatic?


Or is it to fool Obama's Islamo-facist CIA email-spying hardware?!

:tinfoil:

BJA
Apr 11, 2006

It has to start somewhere
It has to start sometime
What better place than here
What better time than now

myron cope posted:

I had this argument with my mom a while ago, that there's no "White Entertainment Television" because the 6,000 channels that aren't BET are White Entertainment Television.

When I was in 2nd grade I lived in Orlando, Florida must have been around 1985, during black history month, a kid asked the teacher why black people got a special month and not white people, she answered that everyday was white people day.

Mitchicon
Nov 3, 2006

BJA posted:

When I was in 2nd grade I lived in Orlando, Florida must have been around 1985, during black history month, a kid asked the teacher why black people got a special month and not white people, she answered that everyday was white people day.

And that teacher was Obama.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Mitchicon posted:

Why are all these crazy emails

typically written in this format?


Do they think

that spacing the text

in this manner

makes it more dramatic?


Or is it to fool Obama's Islamo-facist CIA email-spying hardware?!

:tinfoil:


Easier to

Read if you

have the font

at like 120

point and

your email

client does

not automatically

word wrap.

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007

BJA posted:

When I was in 2nd grade I lived in Orlando, Florida must have been around 1985, during black history month, a kid asked the teacher why black people got a special month and not white people, she answered that everyday was white people day.

I had a very young female professor mention that August was women's history month. She asked "When's men's history month?" I rolled my eyes prepared for the agreeing/outraged responses from the class, and was quite pleasantly surprised when several guys went "Uh, every month is men's history month? Women should get at least one."

Defenestration
Aug 10, 2006

"It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"


Grimey Drawer

Cowslips Warren posted:

When Obama is defeated on the night of November 6, 2012 he will remain president until Romney is sworn in on January 20, 2013. That gives Obama over 74 days to do anything he can to finish his socialist agenda and possibly hurl America into such a deep, dark abyss that we may never recover!
This is my personal favorite. Obama is going to wait until he fails to be elected for a second term, and THEN he is going to steal all your tractors and nationalize bottled water companies.

It's like all those people that think super liberal obama is just waiting for his second term to come out, but opposite

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

Mitchicon posted:

Why are all these crazy emails

typically written in this format?


Do they think

that spacing the text

in this manner

makes it more dramatic?


Or is it to fool Obama's Islamo-facist CIA email-spying hardware?!

:tinfoil:

I can't help but envision it a little more like this:




This November,

we decide

between a

communist

and a

patriot.



Every single goddamn time I see it formatted that way I keep waiting for the logo to show up at the end. :(

falcon2424
May 2, 2005

BJA posted:

When I was in 2nd grade I lived in Orlando, Florida must have been around 1985, during black history month, a kid asked the teacher why black people got a special month and not white people, she answered that everyday was white people day.

There's a better answer. "It's March and has been for 20 years."

sentientcarbon
Aug 21, 2008

OFFLINE GAMES ARE THE FUTURE OF ONLINE GAMING

The numbers don't lie. 99.99% of every Diablo 3 player wants the game to be offline. This is a FACT.

OH SHIT IS THAT A WEBCAM? HOLY CRAP GET THAT AWAY FROM ME! (I am terrified of being spied on, because I am a very interesting person)

Defenestration posted:

This is my personal favorite. Obama is going to wait until he fails to be elected for a second term, and THEN he is going to steal all your tractors and nationalize bottled water companies.

It's like all those people that think super liberal obama is just waiting for his second term to come out, but opposite

I also love how they seem to think that 'winning a second term' is some magical talisman.

"Welp bizarro-Obama just burned down the congress and declared himself dictator-for-life, but hey, he won a second term, so what're ya gonna do?"

I'm also curious how the wingnuts think Obama would pull off such an all-encompassing coup (he is seizing every pond). Do they seriously have so little faith in US military personnel that they think they would mindlessly slaughter their countrymen just because Obama ordered them too? Doesn't seem like the same fawning 'support are troops!' attention they usually fellate the military with. Do they think the UN will do it? The same UN that couldn't handle a few thousand malnourished, poorly-armed rebels in Rwanda a couple decades ago? Maybe they think he's hiding a super-secret army in the oval office's closet.

Obama is literally the Cobra Commander to these people.

Armyman25
Sep 6, 2005

falcon2424 posted:

There's a better answer. "It's March and has been for 20 years."

Potato eating Papist Micks aren't really white people.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻

sentientcarbon posted:

I also love how they seem to think that 'winning a second term' is some magical talisman.

"Welp bizarro-Obama just burned down the congress and declared himself dictator-for-life, but hey, he won a second term, so what're ya gonna do?"

I'm also curious how the wingnuts think Obama would pull off such an all-encompassing coup (he is seizing every pond). Do they seriously have so little faith in US military personnel that they think they would mindlessly slaughter their countrymen just because Obama ordered them too? Doesn't seem like the same fawning 'support are troops!' attention they usually fellate the military with. Do they think the UN will do it? The same UN that couldn't handle a few thousand malnourished, poorly-armed rebels in Rwanda a couple decades ago? Maybe they think he's hiding a super-secret army in the oval office's closet.

Obama is literally the Cobra Commander to these people.

What I like is that unlike every other dictator who appealed to nationalism or xenophobia, Obama is going to start by making people hate themselves.

Leospeare
Jun 27, 2003
I lack the ability to think of a creative title.
TEA PARTY RESEARCH TEAM REPORT: Obama (America's Fraud President) is a Katamari ball.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

sentientcarbon posted:

I'm also curious how the wingnuts think Obama would pull off such an all-encompassing coup (he is seizing every pond). Do they seriously have so little faith in US military personnel that they think they would mindlessly slaughter their countrymen just because Obama ordered them too? Doesn't seem like the same fawning 'support are troops!' attention they usually fellate the military with.

Why do you think he repealed DADT? Now there is nothing to stop him from filling the ranks with his personal homo army :unsmigghh:

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Re: "waaaah white history month where nobama where :qq", I love posting this image:

prom candy
Dec 16, 2005

Only I may dance
Anyone want to start a band and/or Counter Strike clan called Tea Party Research Team with me?

Edit: Also, do people not realize that when Obama wins a second term he'll still have a vested interest in helping another Democrat win in 2016?

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

prom candy posted:

Anyone want to start a band and/or Counter Strike clan called Tea Party Research Team with me?

Edit: Also, do people not realize that when Obama wins a second term he'll still have a vested interest in helping another Democrat win in 2016?

Yes, himself, after he changes the laws!

Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

:crossarms: O'Scuma?

Xarthor
Nov 11, 2003

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I know this isn't exactly a forwarded e-mail but I saw this driving around today and it made me chuckle.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

That's what I took a way from that rant. What the hell?

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
That's not even the laziest one I've heard today, don't act like y'all are surprised

Walter
Jul 3, 2003

We think they're great. In a grand, mystical, neopolitical sense, these guys have a real message in their music. They don't, however, have neat names like me and Bono.
Sounds Irish.

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS
Not an email, but I'm in a debate on another forum and t'one dude just dropped what has to be the purest expression of Republican FYGM I've seen. Re: Voter ID and the difficulty some people have getting them, he says:

quote:

If it were that important to people, they would do what they need to do to exercise that right
Just straight up "Oh, it's hard for some people to get photo ID because they're homeless/elderly/disabled? Sucks to be them, better work harder." He then went on to cite the good old "You need ID to go to the theater, the bank, another country, and get a good job. Why not require ID to vote?" and "You only hate this because it's a conservative idea", but those are less interesting.

Don't need any help, I think I've got it mostly under control, just had to vent that little marvel, because :drat:I don't think I've seen anybody quite so honest about "gently caress the Poor"

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
You should only be able to vote if you have a bank account, go to see R rated movies, have a good job, and travel abroad.

Mitchicon
Nov 3, 2006

VideoTapir posted:

You should only be able to vote if you have a bank account, go to see R rated movies, have a good job, and travel abroad.

Let's just restrict the right to vote to white protestant men like the forefathers wanted. :colbert:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
I make 70kish a year, and never had to show my boss ID. :smug:

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I think they should prohibit all private transportation on election day, busses, bycicles and boots only. This is to prevent disenfranchisement from road congestion making it impossible to reach a polling station during the hours they're open. Don't ask if there's ever been a documented case of this occuring.

What do you mean this makes it too hard for Republicans to vote? If you don't care enough to look up a bus book then you don't really deserve to vote.

aBagorn
Aug 26, 2004
Apparently this is the new line of attack for my conservative friends:

quote:

6 months ago , I predicted that obama would take credit for the improvements made by Repub governors...it's amazing how accurately the future you can see if you just think it through....while the nations unemployment rate stayed stubbornly over 8.1 % for 43 months, many fiscally sane repub govnr's have created business friendly environments, resulting in above par job growth. Ohio ( 10.6 high down to 7.2 low) over 3 point reduction & Florida ( 11.3 high down to 8.6 low) appx 3 point reduction. The nations unemployment rate ( 9.9 down to 8.1) less than a 1.9 point reduction......hell, south dakota alone under repub govn'r is @ 4.4.....I wonder what the combined deficits & unemployment rate is for Dem states that follow the prez's philosophy....nothing worse than a guy who takes credit for the hard work of others...and worse yet casts blame for the stagnation & malais caused by things he did and supported his entire life...expansion of the entitlement system as a community organizer and senator, all the while, fighting for those subprime housing loans that sunk our economy.... if you're undecided it's wise to consider what's true, what works and what doesn't.

I started the debate by pointing out Michigan as one of the highest drops in unemployment, trying to link the auto bailout as a success.

Any other lines of thinking?

pillsburysoldier
Feb 11, 2008

Yo, peep that shit

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

aBagorn posted:

Apparently this is the new line of attack for my conservative friends:


I started the debate by pointing out Michigan as one of the highest drops in unemployment, trying to link the auto bailout as a success.

Any other lines of thinking?

First ask him to cite his sources and why it's the product of "fiscally sane republicans."

Ask him what "business friendly environments" means and what the Repubs did to create that.

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.
May also be worthwhile to see what amount of the percentage drop is due to people leaving the workforce or just moving out of state; I know that's the case for a good hunk of Florida's "drop."

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007

Alright, you win. Start campaigning on how Obama smoked pot in high school, and what you think should be done about that. See you in 4 years!

ThePeteEffect
Jun 12, 2007

I'm just crackers about cheese!
Fun Shoe

aBagorn posted:

Apparently this is the new line of attack for my conservative friends:


I started the debate by pointing out Michigan as one of the highest drops in unemployment, trying to link the auto bailout as a success.

Any other lines of thinking?

Wisconsin had the slowest job growth (if not a net loss) of any state and that's supposed to be the blueprint for going to "business friendly" policies.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

aBagorn posted:

Apparently this is the new line of attack for my conservative friends:


I started the debate by pointing out Michigan as one of the highest drops in unemployment, trying to link the auto bailout as a success.

Any other lines of thinking?

Red states and federal funding.

The fact that some of them are oil or gas producers and would be booming no matter who was in office.

VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Sep 26, 2012

aBagorn
Aug 26, 2004

VideoTapir posted:

Red states and federal funding.

The fact that some of them are oil or gas producers and would be booming no matter who was in office.

yeah I mentioned that.

I took job growth stats from 2011 and showed him that 6 of the top 10 were western oil/gas states that benefited from pop growth and federal funding.

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Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

aBagorn posted:

Apparently this is the new line of attack for my conservative friends:


I started the debate by pointing out Michigan as one of the highest drops in unemployment, trying to link the auto bailout as a success.

Any other lines of thinking?

Did that dope seriously try to use Florida as a success story? People here hate Rick Scott (and you can bet anything, he will get bounced out on his rear end the first time he comes up for reelection) and...

quote:

Gov. Rick Scott on Tuesday cut off a journalist who tried to ask him about a report from a top state economist who said Florida’s fall in unemployment is almost exclusively due to people leaving the workforce.

“Mike! I said I’ve answered all your questions,” said Scott, briefly abandoning his normally laid-back demeanor and raising his voice in response to Bloomberg reporter Michael Bender.

The reporter had pointed out the findings of Amy Baker, the Florida Legislature’s chief economist, which showed that Florida’s unemployment rate is falling for a dire reason: a shrinking workforce.

For the past few months — as Scott has touted the 2-point drop in the unemployment rate — economists have pointed out that the rate is falling because people have given up on looking for work and aren’t being counted among unemployed. Job creation has been mediocre compared to other states, and is lagging behind the national growth rate.


Meanwhile, Scott — who based his 2010 campaign and governorship on his ability to create jobs — said last week that “Every economic indicator we have is good.”

As Scott’s message has begun to diverge from that of economists and other state officials, media scrutiny has intensified.

When reporters questioned Scott about the unemployment rate on Tuesday, the governor became elusive and dismissive. Here’s the partial exchange with Bender:

Reporter: “Are you saying those numbers from the state economist are wrong, Governor?”

Scott: “I’m saying we generated 130,000 jobs.”

Reporter: “But that’s not all of the—“

Scott: “Mike, I’ve answered all your questions on that.”

Reporter: “But, no, my question is about the unemployment rate drop—“

Scott: “Mike! I said I’ve answered all your questions.”

With reports on Florida’s unemployment and poverty rates due out later this week, there is growing concern that the economic recovery may be slowing. So far this year, net job growth has been negative.

Even as the U.S. recovery remains tepid, unemployed people in Florida are having a harder time finding a new job than in any other place in the country, according to a recent study by Florida International University.

“Florida’s long-term unemployment rate, however, has continued to rise in 2011, reaching record-high rates and making it number one among states,” reads the FIU report. “No state has ever had a long-term unemployment rate as high as Florida’s, which was 53.0% in 2011.”

The report found that Florida’s recovery began to fall behind the national recovery in early 2011, shortly after Scott took office.

Baker found that if workforce participation hadn’t shrunk from January 2011 levels, Florida’s unemployment rate would be 10.1 percent. It is currently 8.8 percent, down from 11.1 percent in December 2010.

The labor participation rate has fallen to 60 percent, the lowest since 1986.

Though Scott opted against answering specific questions about the falling workforce, he stood by his positive portrayal of the state’s economy.

“Indicators are very good in our state,” he said. “Biggest drop in unemployment in our state. Tourism is up, exports are up, home prices are up, home sales are up, new home construction is up.”

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/09/18/3009230/gov-rick-scott-annoyed-at-questions.html

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