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ChiTownEddie
Mar 26, 2010

Awesome beer, no pants.
Join the Legion.

crazyfish posted:

Where are you getting $2.50 craft pints where they're serving Zombie Dust in Chicago? ZD is a really great beer but where are you seeing such a price disparity?

Tuesday nights at Floyds in Bucktown. Its 2.50 craft pints except for 3F (which they only had Zombie Dust). I'm pretty 'meh' on Floyds in general, but for a couple pints after work its pretty solid on Tuesdays.

I didn't mean to sound like I don't like ZD, its good, maybe even great in my opinion. But not worth 7$ on a 2.50 night :P

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wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???
Here's a longshot: Anyone know how to interpret Knee Deep Brewing's bottling codes? I'm at work and don't have it memorized, but on the label, vertically printed, was about a 10-character alphanumeric code, with a 'K' being physically impressed onto the label at the start of the code but without actually being inked onto the label.

Anyway, I had a Knee Deep Simtra last night, and it was fanfriggintastic. Really reminded me of a sweeter Pliny, or Exponential Hoppiness without the rye bomb. Expensive for an IPA but on par with Expo - if you're going to charge around $10 for a bomber it better be good.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

If you know the words, you can join in too
He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!

funkybottoms posted:

i was gonna post something earlier about a bottle share last night, but the power went out and i never got back to it. instead, i will point out that local bar/restaurant Mekong won Best Beer Bar in America on craftbeer.com. this is, despite my love of the place, entirely not true, but they're celebrating with $1 drafts all night, so i don't care.

also, our very own Kraven Moorhed won a $100 gift certificate to Mekong for writing a bit of clever encouragement on their facebook page... wait, he could buy 100 beers tonight....

I was very upset about that. I just dont understand how it got #1.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Munkaboo posted:

I was very upset about that. I just dont understand how it got #1.

like, personally upset? as i said, it's certainly not the best beer bar in the country, and clearly a lot of people with a "Richmond is a big city, too!" chip on their shoulder (there are a fair number of these people around) voted multiple times from multiple computers, but the owner is beloved by the masses, mainly because he has done more to promote good/craft beer in the region than just about anyone else, and people reacted strongly when they saw an opportunity to get him some big-time recognition. i mean, it's not like it's some "best beer" list that has something from DFH in the top five...

VVV they don't post a taplist online, and the website is a bit old, anyway (they no longer offer any BMC, Corona, etc). they always have 20+ drafts- typically four to six are sours- and if there is a limited release where only a few kegs make it into the state, they are generally near the top of the list to get them. they also stash tons of kegs for special occasions and then sell them for cheap ($5 10oz pours of 2009 Peche Mortel during the last Super Bowl, $5 pours from a cask of 2006 Bon Chien for their anniversary party a few months ago). from my experience, Avenue Pub in New Orleans kills Mekong on beer, but as far as what can actually be obtained in our area, they are definitely the best thing going.

funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Sep 26, 2012

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

funkybottoms posted:

like, personally upset? as i said, it's certainly not the best beer bar in the country, and clearly a lot of people with a "Richmond is a big city, too!" chip on their shoulder (there are a fair number of these people around) voted multiple times from multiple computers, but the owner is beloved by the masses, mainly because he has done more to promote good/craft beer in the region than just about anyone else, and people reacted strongly when they saw an opportunity to get him some big-time recognition. i mean, it's not like it's some "best beer" list that has something from DFH in the top five...

So with the "vote" I checked out this place's site... Is there something I'm missing? Because that looks like a pretty standard better-than-average list. Not making GBS threads on it, but I know 5-10 bars within 20 miles of me that are at least as good.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

danbanana posted:

So with the "vote" I checked out this place's site... Is there something I'm missing? Because that looks like a pretty standard better-than-average list. Not making GBS threads on it, but I know 5-10 bars within 20 miles of me that are at least as good.

I did the same thing, and I agree with you - I can think of at least a half dozen places that have better lists. Maybe that place is hot poo poo in Richmond, but the beer list pales in comparison to a number of places I've been in Chicago and San Francisco.

Munkaboo
Aug 5, 2002

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He's bigger! faster! stronger too!
He's the newest member of the Jags O-Line crew!

funkybottoms posted:

like, personally upset? as i said, it's certainly not the best beer bar in the country, and clearly a lot of people with a "Richmond is a big city, too!" chip on their shoulder (there are a fair number of these people around) voted multiple times from multiple computers, but the owner is beloved by the masses, mainly because he has done more to promote good/craft beer in the region than just about anyone else, and people reacted strongly when they saw an opportunity to get him some big-time recognition. i mean, it's not like it's some "best beer" list that has something from DFH in the top five...

VVV they don't post a taplist online, and the website is a bit old, anyway (they no longer offer any BMC, Corona, etc). they always have 20+ drafts- typically four to six are sours- and if there is a limited release where only a few kegs make it into the state, they are generally near the top of the list to get them. they also stash tons of kegs for special occasions and then sell them for cheap ($5 10oz pours of 2009 Peche Mortel during the last Super Bowl, $5 pours from a cask of 2006 Bon Chien for their anniversary party a few months ago). from my experience, Avenue Pub in New Orleans kills Mekong on beer, but as far as what can actually be obtained in our area, they are definitely the best thing going.

Nah not personally upset. I have a soft spot for Capital Ale and don't know why it doesn't get more love. It's one of the biggest reason I got into craft.

Kraven Moorhed
Jan 5, 2006

So wrong, yet so right.

Soiled Meat

Munkaboo posted:

Nah not personally upset. I have a soft spot for Capital Ale and don't know why it doesn't get more love. It's one of the biggest reason I got into craft.

Cap Ale helped get me more into craft beer, too, but Mekong is a different beast altogether. Like funkybottoms said, An's incredibly active in the community and makes himself known as a personality which really helps people feel a sense of loyalty to his restaurant. Capital Alehouse doesn't really have a personality, per se--it's just a chain of german-inspired restaurants that have a great selection of beer and some good weekly specials and Oktoberfest.

But for the folks talking about the selection, yeah, the website isn't your best bet. He's currently posting stuff on Facebook about how it needs an overhaul, and hell, I didn't go for awhile because the bottle list looked meh. But the taps are interesting, updated frequently, and really drat cheap.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

funkybottoms posted:

$5 10oz pours of 2009 Peche Mortel during the last Super Bowl

And that is awesome. So, so, so awesome.

I figured a place that got that sort of rep had to be better than the site implies.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

danbanana posted:

So with the "vote" I checked out this place's site... Is there something I'm missing? Because that looks like a pretty standard better-than-average list. Not making GBS threads on it, but I know 5-10 bars within 20 miles of me that are at least as good.

A bar is a lot more than just a tap list. It's gotta be a place that you enjoy going to first, and then the tap list is secondary. There's several craft bars in my area that I enjoy, but the one I frequent most is the one I like the atmosphere and service of most. I've never been to Mekong (it's quite a ways away from me), but I'd bet it's in a similar situation.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

funkybottoms posted:

$5 pours from a cask of 2006 Bon Chien for their anniversary party a few months ago

I don't usually empty quote things, but :stare:

Maybe they deserved it.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
Yo Philly beer goons check this out that's happening at the Blue Dog Tavern in Chalfont, Pa. this Saturday starting at 11am:

quote:

Cantillon Lou Pepe – Kriek
Founders CBS (2011)
Founders KBS (2012)
Founders Imperial Stout (2011)
Founders Curmudgeons’s Better Half
Founders Frangelic Mountain Brown
Founders Devil Dancer Triple IPA
Hill Farmstead Everett Porter
Hill Farmstead/Kissmeyer Collaboration – Holger Danske Smoked Brown
Russian River Pliny the Elder
Goose Island Bourbon County Stout
Voodoo Cowbell Imperial Oatmeal Milk Stout
FiftyFifty Old Conundrum American Barleywine
Evil Twin Imperial Biscotti Break Imperial Stout
Old Forge Bourbon Barrel Aged Hank The Belgian Stout
Ballast Point Sculpin India Pale Ale
Evolution Jacques Au Lantern Pumpkin Ale
Free Will Napoleon Sour Farmhouse Ale
ON DECK
Russian River Blind Pig
Russian River Temptation
Russian River Supplication
Russian River Consecration
Green Flash Imperial IPA
Founders Curmudgeon (2011)
Cigar City Blueberry Muffin Brown
Round Guys Saison Du Pomme
Free Will Black Friday
8 Wired Hopwired IPA
Rogue Double Chocolate Stout
Bear Republic Tartare Berliner Weissbier
Ballast Point Navigator Dopplebock
Founders Breakfast Stout
Firestone Walker Union Jack IPA
Firestone Walker Double Jack Imperial IPA
Firestone Walker Velvet Merlin Oatmeal Stout
Firestone Walker Double Double Barrel Ale
Firestone Walker Wookey Jack American Black Ale
Lost Abbey Bourbon Barrel-Aged Angel’s Share
Lavery Oak Liopard Oir Farmhouse Ale
Saint Somewhere / Funky Buddha Citron Partie
Stillwater/Brewer’s Art Debutante Saison
FiftyFifty RyePA
4 Hands Single Speed Session Ale
The Bruery White Oak Wheatwine
Ithaca Country Pumpkin
Evolution Lot #6 Double IPA
Hofbrau Oktoberfestbier
Elysian Night Owl Pumpkin Ale
Stone 16th Anniversary Imperial IPA
Braustelle Freigeist Abraxxxas Berliner Weissbier
Neshaminy Creek Leon Russian Imperial S'mores Stout
Rogue John’s Locker Stock Brew 15K Belgian Stout
Long Trail Imperial Pumpkin (Brewmaster Series)
Manayunk Yunkin’ Punkin’ Pumpkin Ale
Hacker-Pschorr Oktoberfest-Märzen
Nøgne Ø Imperial India Pale Ale #500
Ommegang Gnomegang Belgian Strong Pale Ale
Bad Attitude Bootlegger California Common Lager
Mikkeller Barrel Aged Black Hole (White Wine Edition)
River Horse Brewer’s Reserve Hipp-o-Lantern Imperial Pumpkin Ale

I have to miss it, but drat that's nice.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Munkaboo posted:

Nah not personally upset. I have a soft spot for Capital Ale and don't know why it doesn't get more love. It's one of the biggest reason I got into craft.

Capital Ale was another key in bringing craft to the area, but the main guy responsible for that is no longer with them, so their selection(s) aren't as diverse and interesting as they used to be (i'm told the management is very "corporate"). Fortunately, that guy is head of the craft division of a big distributor, so their loss is everyone's gain. also, Mekong is a friendly, open spot for beer geeks, whereas Cap Ale tends to have a more business douche/fratboy thing going on.* not hating on it, but it's just not my kind of place.

edit- there's a BA thread (started by a Richmonder)!

*mostly talking about downtown. Midlo is too far for me and Innsbrook is always out of the top four or five things i want to drink and gently caress paying eight dollars for a pint of Fuller's

funkybottoms fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Sep 27, 2012

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer
Chicago goons, I'm moving from the northwest suburbs to Westmont and I'm trying to find a new bar with a good tap list. I did some looking and found a place called Tap House Grill that looks like it has a bad rear end tap list. Anyone been here before, or have other recommendations in the Naperville/Westmont area? It looks like most of the bars in Chicago are on the northwest side.

BoredByThis
Jul 13, 2001

Watch out! I'll attract you too!
Tap House Grill is one of the best places you'll find in that area. There's also the Bavarian Lodge that will be close and is one of the best beer destinations in the Midwest.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

BoredByThis posted:

Tap House Grill is one of the best places you'll find in that area. There's also the Bavarian Lodge that will be close and is one of the best beer destinations in the Midwest.

I second Bavarian Lodge. If it were closer to me, I'd be there weekly. Best list in the further-west burbs. Don't know about in all the midwest, but it's very, very good and they do rare tappings every month or so.

E: Also, the food is GREAT.

danbanana fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Sep 27, 2012

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer

BoredByThis posted:

Tap House Grill is one of the best places you'll find in that area. There's also the Bavarian Lodge that will be close and is one of the best beer destinations in the Midwest.


BoredByThis posted:

Tap House Grill is one of the best places you'll find in that area. There's also the Bavarian Lodge that will be close and is one of the best beer destinations in the Midwest.

Thanks goons. Bavarian Lodge is a middle ground between some buddies of mine in Naperville and where I'm at. I think I'll be there pretty often. That is also a beastly taplist.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Cans:

-Schlitz

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi

Splizwarf posted:

Cans:

-Schlitz

The 2nd best cheap beer on the planet. I think Stroh's is legitimately great.

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer

danbanana posted:

The 2nd best cheap beer on the planet. I think Stroh's is legitimately great.

Agreed, Schlitz is a pretty tasty beer when I've been outside working and don't want to worry about breaking a bottle or feel bad drinking a $12 six pack without being able to sit and enjoy it.

Glottis
May 29, 2002

No. It's necessary.
Yam Slacker

wattershed posted:

Here's a longshot: Anyone know how to interpret Knee Deep Brewing's bottling codes? I'm at work and don't have it memorized, but on the label, vertically printed, was about a 10-character alphanumeric code, with a 'K' being physically impressed onto the label at the start of the code but without actually being inked onto the label.

Anyway, I had a Knee Deep Simtra last night, and it was fanfriggintastic. Really reminded me of a sweeter Pliny, or Exponential Hoppiness without the rye bomb. Expensive for an IPA but on par with Expo - if you're going to charge around $10 for a bomber it better be good.

I know the owner through a connection, maybe when I'm up at the brewery I can ask, haha. Better yet, ask if he's thought about printing the bottling dates straight-up.

wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???

Glottis posted:

I know the owner through a connection, maybe when I'm up at the brewery I can ask, haha. Better yet, ask if he's thought about printing the bottling dates straight-up.

I got an email (once I was already at work) from "Jerry" asking me to send him the bottling code, and that he can tell me the date from the code. I'll totally forget about this for another 3 days then remember to email him back, I'm sure of it.

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES
I've got a funny beer story. Last Wednesday was the last day before classes started so I went to my local bar for a last hurrah. Chris, my bartender friend, wasn't there, but her bosslady was. After enjoying a steak and a Newcastle, I buy a PBR. I'm not even starting to drink before I get a call from my eyedoctor telling me that my new lenses were in. I shotgunned 24 ounces of beer and ran like hell.

I will never pound a 24 oz can ever again. Ugh.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Anyone else in NH/MA/ME attending the NH Brewfest at Redhook on the 6th?

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
USA! USA!

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2012/09/daily-chart-13

quote:

Analysts at UBS, a Swiss bank, have calculated that it takes a German earning the national median wage just under seven minutes of work to purchase half a litre of beer at a retail outlet. At the bottom of the pint glass, low wages and high taxes mean that boozers in India must toil for nearly an hour before they have earned enough to quench their thirst.




It almost takes us longer to drink our beer than it takes us to earn enough cash to buy another one.
:patriot:

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.
I would love to know why brewery's sometimes use a code instead of a straight up bottling/best before date.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!

Midorka posted:

I would love to know why brewery's sometimes use a code instead of a straight up bottling/best before date.

Because it's probably a batch code too. Bottled on/best by probably aren't a fine enough granulation from the perspective of the brewery's inventory controller.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Phanatic posted:

USA! USA!
:patriot:

This is the best metric ever. I demand all economic statistics be reformulated to tell me how a given event will impact the time it takes me to earn one beer. It should be the summary line on a candidate's tax policy.

PoopShipDestroyer
Jan 13, 2006

I think he's ready for a chair
I really hate anything but bottle dates on beer. Victory has a whole page laying out how their "Best by" dates work. It's something like 5 months for almost everything, 6 months for a couple beers, 5 years for Old Horizontal and 2 years for Hop Devil. 0_o

Just put the actual date it was bottled on there, and not in some annoying code

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Have a batch code and then a bottled-on date beneath it. Best of both worlds!

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi
Speaking of Victory... Scored a bottle of Dark Intrigue (which I'm pretty sure has a Bottled On date, not a Best By date) a couple weeks ago at a shop. Anyone had this? Not the best reviewed, but according to Victory, they're not planning on bringing it back for a while (if ever).

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

danbanana posted:

Speaking of Victory... Scored a bottle of Dark Intrigue (which I'm pretty sure has a Bottled On date, not a Best By date) a couple weeks ago at a shop. Anyone had this? Not the best reviewed, but according to Victory, they're not planning on bringing it back for a while (if ever).

It's a decent BBA Imperial Stout, great for the price. If you can find Otto in Oak by them I highly suggest that, one of the best BBA beers I've had.

Edit: Splizwarf thanks for the explanation.

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot

danbanana posted:

Speaking of Victory... Scored a bottle of Dark Intrigue (which I'm pretty sure has a Bottled On date, not a Best By date) a couple weeks ago at a shop. Anyone had this? Not the best reviewed, but according to Victory, they're not planning on bringing it back for a while (if ever).

It's kind of a bourbon bomb, but its almost a year old at this point so it may have mellowed a bit.

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005

👽

Midorka posted:

I would love to know why brewery's sometimes use a code instead of a straight up bottling/best before date.

Are you talking about Julian Date system? Yeah it's pretty annoying, I wonder what people think when I'm looking at beer bottles and staring at my phone with https://sites.google.com/site/freshbeeronly/ pulled up trying to figure out dates.

I also hate neck dates. Most liquor stores are so dimly light that it's impossible to see the date.

Also just picked up two six packs of Gumballhead.

RocketMermaid
Mar 30, 2004

My pronouns are She/Heir.


Splizwarf posted:

Because it's probably a batch code too. Bottled on/best by probably aren't a fine enough granulation from the perspective of the brewery's inventory controller.

Depends on how breweries keep track of inventory. I know Goose Island only puts dates on the bottles, but we have plenty of data to keep track of what was bottled/kegged on what date. And if you blend batches, that batch code becomes useless anyway. For something like Bourbon County Stout, where we often mix barrels from different batches into one fermenter, and then process multiple fermenters into the same bright beer tank, getting that properly documented on the bottle would be impossible.

I also agree that "Best By" dates are crappy and spurious as hell.

crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Harminoff posted:

Are you talking about Julian Date system? Yeah it's pretty annoying, I wonder what people think when I'm looking at beer bottles and staring at my phone with https://sites.google.com/site/freshbeeronly/ pulled up trying to figure out dates.

That link is awesome. Thanks!

Jack Skeleton
Dec 7, 2006

Midorka posted:

It's a decent BBA Imperial Stout, great for the price. If you can find Otto in Oak by them I highly suggest that, one of the best BBA beers I've had.

Edit: Splizwarf thanks for the explanation.

Strange. I had the opposite reaction. I thought Otto tasted like bacon and liquid smoke. While I loved Dark Intrigue.


For Los Angeles folks, Ballast Point is doing a tap take-over tonight and this is what they're bringing to the party:
-Smokescreen smoked Helles Lager
-Barmy Apricot Wheat Wine
-Sculpin IPA on nitro
-Habanero-infused Sculpin
-Rum Barrel Aged Victory at Sea
-Dorado DIPA

-A special flight available of Victory at Sea Imperial Vanilla Coffee Porter, Three Sheets Rum Barrel Aged Victory at Sea, and Ballast Point Three Sheets Barrel Aged Rum.


I'm looking forward to that deconstructed flight.

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot

Jack Skeleton posted:

Strange. I had the opposite reaction. I thought Otto tasted like bacon and liquid smoke. While I loved Dark Intrigue.


Did you have the Otto in Oak? Regular Otto kinda sucks, but the oak-aged one was pretty good.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Jack Skeleton posted:

Strange. I had the opposite reaction. I thought Otto tasted like bacon and liquid smoke. While I loved Dark Intrigue.
No not Otto, I thought that was mediocre, I mean Otto in Oak, the bourbon barrel aged one, unless that's what you meant and just shortened it. Otto in Oak is one of my favorite beers of all time, every aspect of the beer, from the smoke to the dubble base is balanced extremely well with the bourbon.

Victory is in the process of aging something in red wine barrels now, can't loving wait.

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cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot

Midorka posted:


Victory is in the process of aging something in red wine barrels now, can't loving wait.

Baltic porter. They're also doing a BBA Old Horizontal. I hope that one's less of a bourbon bomb than Dark Intrigue was.

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