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Relayer
Sep 18, 2002

theradiostillsucks posted:

It just feels like the musical form of fanfiction. The whole retro nostalgia thing has always struck me as kind of silly, at least as far as trying to sell or market it. If you're legitimately into it, fine, but I feel like a lot of video game cover bands are just neckbeards pandering to fellow neckbeards; in effect, no more culturally relevant than the hordes of Hot Topic-purchased, faded, XXL Nintendo tshirts that will be cluttering the aisles of your local thrift store for years to come.

If you're trying to sell or market it, definitely. I think if you're trying to sell covers in general then you're kind of missing the point. But as far as "videogame bands", I think it really just boils down to what tunes you choose to cover. Like if you're playing anything from a Castlevania title, then you're playing some pretty sophisticated modern Baroque music, so it's hard for me to deny somebody doing that as long as they are executing it well, it's just good.

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Ola Ugh
May 19, 2005

Sjåre brymæ
Oslo Jazz Festival is coming up.

Here's the program: http://www.oslojazz.no/programENG.php

As a jazz newb some of my favorite albums: Blue Train, Waltz for Debbie, Sama Layuca, Fly with the wind, etc. Ahmad Jamal, Charlie Parker... Anything like that on the program?

Pas2
Nov 25, 2002

Ola Ugh posted:

Oslo Jazz Festival is coming up.

Here's the program: http://www.oslojazz.no/programENG.php

As a jazz newb some of my favorite albums: Blue Train, Waltz for Debbie, Sama Layuca, Fly with the wind, etc. Ahmad Jamal, Charlie Parker... Anything like that on the program?

Not too familiar with most of the line-up, but based on those favorites maybe Bugge Wesseltoft could be up your alley?

His latest solo album is a collection of jazz standards, which is pretty serene stuff and not very exciting, but don't know what kind of a show he's likely to play at the Festival.

Here's a sample track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zh0EPNdOAvs
The album is on Spotify: http://open.spotify.com/album/3Qmr80hItV2ypCxk73vo89
And here's a more adventurous live solo set from last November where he mixes electronics with the piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkmevd68_io

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Can someone recommend me some good recent Big Band Jazz? Something from 90s and later.

Jack Trades fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Aug 23, 2012

Pyrthas
Jan 22, 2007

Jack Trades posted:

Can someone recommend me some good modern Big Band Jazz? Something from 90s and later.
I'm not sure if you meant "modern" to mean more than just recent, and I'm no expert, but I like the Clayton-Hamilton Orchestra's "Live at MCG."

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010

Pyrthas posted:

I'm not sure if you meant "modern" to mean more than just recent, and I'm no expert, but I like the Clayton-Hamilton Orchestra's "Live at MCG."

Yeah, I just meant something recent that would be available in good quality and wouldn't be difficult to find.

Thanks, I'll check it out.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

Jack Trades posted:

Can someone recommend me some good recent Big Band Jazz? Something from 90s and later.

Off the top of my head, you should check out pretty much anything from Big Bad Voodoo Daddy or Squirrel Nut Zippers, both of which put out some really good big band music.

Can someone give me a good starting point for picking up some Twinemen CDs? I've found I'm really digging Dana Colley's Sax on Morphine and AKACOD and want to expand out a bit.

beer gas canister
Oct 30, 2007

shmups are da best come play some shmups they're cheap and good and you like them
Plaster Town Cop

Jack Trades posted:

Can someone recommend me some good recent Big Band Jazz? Something from 90s and later.

Later Bob Brookmeyer - Worked with Thad and Mel (among others) and had a very distinctive voice. Died last December but produced many modern recordings.

Maria Schneider - Protege of Bob Brookmeyer and friend of John Hollenbeck, who occasionally plays drums for her. Also worked with Gil Evans. Sounds very little like Brookmeyer (from what I've heard), and is known for an "impressionistic" vibe in her writing.

John Hollenbeck's Large Ensemble - Pretty profound writer, especially on the records Eternal Interlude and Joys & Desires. My personal favorite modern big band. "Foreign One" (arrangement of Monk's "Four in One") from Eternal Interlude is one of the deepest big band cuts of all time, in my opinion. He also studied under Bob Brookmeyer, though he sounds neither like Brookmeyer nor Maria Schneider.

GRP All Star Big Band - supergroup of GRP recording artists

Bob Mintzer Big Band - rad group headed by tenor saxophonist Bob Mintzer of the Yellowjackets

Darcy James Argue's Secret Society - I'm not familiar with these guys, but DJA's supposed to be a really bad motherfucker so check it out. He also has a pretty great blog: http://secretsociety.typepad.com/

Also Bugge Wesseltoft is loving great.

beer gas canister fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Aug 28, 2012

Seventh Arrow
Jan 26, 2005

Was at HMV today and came across the worst album cover I've seen in a long time:



"I'm sad, buy my album"

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene
To be fair, a lot of jazz covers are pretty dull.

Seventh Arrow
Jan 26, 2005

Counterpoint!

One of his other albums:



It's a black panther in front of a les paul with neon strings! It's like a goon went back in time and left his mark on jazz fusion.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene
Not usually a smooth jazz fan, but I really like "Red" by Exodus Quartet (who became The Thievery Corporation): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nchGSBeV4Z4

Pas2
Nov 25, 2002
Al Di Meola didn't get to where he is by making albums with sensible covers!

abske_fides
Apr 20, 2010
I'd say that as a whole genre, jazz and ESPECIALLY fusion, has the worst covers ever.

A friend recently showed me this really awesome Australian jazz band that sometimes get quite experimental called The Necks. I highly recommend them!

I'm also forming an electro-acoustic dark jazz band with some guys from the conservatory hehe

Rabid Koala
Aug 18, 2003


Has anyone else heard the new Lionel Loueke LP? It was produced by Robert Glasper. The dude does amazing things with the guitar, and it has nice afrobeat elements mixed throughout. Highly recommended.

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

abske_fides posted:

I'd say that as a whole genre, jazz and ESPECIALLY fusion, has the worst covers ever.

Blue Note covers being the exception. poo poo owns.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene
Just heard this smooth jazz cover of Enter Sandman by Metallica: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBmM79YadYM

I dig it so much, even though I already love the original.

professor muthafukkah
Feb 27, 2006

oh lord...

Azure_Horizon posted:

More modern jazz improv with BADBADNOTGOOD's second album: BBNG2.

Their cover of Flashing Lights, by Kanye West: http://badbadnotgood.bandcamp.com/track/flashing-lights

This is a fantastic album for post-bop fans.

This is a few pages back, but please listen to this album, it's so loving good!

And since I'm here, where can I find more bands like BADBADNOTGOOD?

ZombyWoof
Sep 7, 2012
Saw a couple of John Zorn recommendations in the first post. You should really check out Spillane, the whole album is great. But in particular the title track - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6Yobw4nM5E

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene

professor muthafukkah posted:

This is a few pages back, but please listen to this album, it's so loving good!

And since I'm here, where can I find more bands like BADBADNOTGOOD?

My suggestion is to just scroll down the bottom of that page and click any of the relevant tags, or just search through Bandcamp. I don't know any offhand, because they're kind of a new niche jazz improv band as they incorporate elements of dubstep into their compositions, too.

widunder
May 2, 2002
I've casually listened jazz for a while now and have unsurprisingly found stuff like Kind of Blue and Take Five to be the sort of stuff I enjoy the most. From there, I usually just click around on Spotify at will. Can anyone recommend me their five favorite live recordings that might be up my alley based on my previous experiences?

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

nemoulette posted:

I've casually listened jazz for a while now and have unsurprisingly found stuff like Kind of Blue and Take Five to be the sort of stuff I enjoy the most. From there, I usually just click around on Spotify at will. Can anyone recommend me their five favorite live recordings that might be up my alley based on my previous experiences?

There are a bunch of commercially released (and even more bootlegs) of the '64 Mingus lineup with Eric Dolphy. It's more avant garde than Kind of Blue, but not a crazy huge leap if you can put up with long pieces. "The Great Concert of Charles Mingus" is one, "Antibes '64" is another, "Revenge!" is the most famous bootleg of the bunch (at least famous for being a bootleg), but I don't know how easy it is to find.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene
Haven't listened to them in a while, but I forgot how much I liked Jaga Jazzist.

They're a jazz fusion band from Norway. Check 'em out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN90uEDk3bQ

Azure_Horizon fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Oct 3, 2012

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

nemoulette posted:

I've casually listened jazz for a while now and have unsurprisingly found stuff like Kind of Blue and Take Five to be the sort of stuff I enjoy the most. From there, I usually just click around on Spotify at will. Can anyone recommend me their five favorite live recordings that might be up my alley based on my previous experiences?

Jazz at the Plaza

Live at the Blackhawk nights 1 & 2

Live Newport '58

My Funny Valentine and Four and More

Thelonius Monk live at the It Club (I don't think this is on spotify :( )

Pas2
Nov 25, 2002

nemoulette posted:

I've casually listened jazz for a while now and have unsurprisingly found stuff like Kind of Blue and Take Five to be the sort of stuff I enjoy the most. From there, I usually just click around on Spotify at will. Can anyone recommend me their five favorite live recordings that might be up my alley based on my previous experiences?

Off the top of my head stuff from Spotify, keeping to the classics pretty much...

Ahmad Jamal - At the Pershing
http://open.spotify.com/album/7qgAYjNZeyQjPCvMiMRRKH

Bill Evans Trio - Sunday at the Village Vanguard
http://open.spotify.com/album/6FSgsN5ROADI1YQOieljKD

John Coltrane - Live at Birdland
http://open.spotify.com/album/60Y9PfPjTMTX28drYS89Go

Charles Mingus - Mingus at Antibes
http://open.spotify.com/album/2gMTsMOwF9WHh9jx9vGnPz

Rahsaan Roland Kirk - Bright Moments
http://open.spotify.com/album/2t97V5uDRA1dRxsJeOSXa9

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


Pas2 posted:

Bill Evans Trio - Sunday at the Village Vanguard
http://open.spotify.com/album/6FSgsN5ROADI1YQOieljKD

This is a great album, and Scott LaFaro is basically the Clifford Brown of bass.

e:
A couple other great live albums (not sure if they're on spotify):

Jazz Portraits: Mingus in Wonderland- Charles Mingus
Mercy Mercy Mercy- Cannonball Adderly

The Wiggly Wizard fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Oct 3, 2012

Seventh Arrow
Jan 26, 2005

Art Blakey's Three Blind Mice Vol 1 is also great.

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

Pas2 posted:

Off the top of my head stuff from Spotify, keeping to the classics pretty much...

John Coltrane - Live at Birdland
http://open.spotify.com/album/60Y9PfPjTMTX28drYS89Go


Best version of "Softly" I've heard. Ever.

Also, whenever I think of Mingus I hear in my head

"Ohhhhh Lorrrddd. Don't let 'em staab us."

That is such a great album, Mingus plays Mingus.

Starving Autist
Oct 20, 2007

by Ralp

Azure_Horizon posted:

Haven't listened to them in a while, but I forgot how much I liked Jaga Jazzist.

They're a jazz fusion band from Norway. Check 'em out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN90uEDk3bQ

Seconding this, everything they've put out is pure awesome.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
After not really "getting" Jazz for the longest time, over the past month I've started really getting into it. Thing is: I have no idea what I'm doing. I've been sort of randomly poking around my parents old record collection/Spotify for stuff to listen to.

Here are some of the albums and artists I like so far. I was hoping someone could help me figure out where to go next, and also to classify these artists into the various subgenres because I have no idea what to call this music besides just the overarching genre label 'jazz':

Nina Simone - Little Girl Blue, Silk & Soul
John Coltrane - Blue Train
Mingus - Ah Um
Miles Davis Quintet - Workin with Miles
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue, Bitches Brew
Bill Evans Trio - Waltz For Debby, Portrait in Jazz

edit: \/\/\/\/ thank you sir! I do enjoy Bitches Brew, and I realize it is quite a bit different style of jazz than the other stuff I listed. I think I like the other Miles Davis stuff I've heard more though. Seems like Miles was at the forefront of many new jazz frontiers over the years... is that a fair assessment? Is he considered one of the most prolific jazz artists?

thathonkey fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Oct 6, 2012

Seventh Arrow
Jan 26, 2005

I would say check these out:

John Coltrane - Coltrane Plays The Blues, My Favorite Things
Wes Montgomery - Smokin' At The Half Note
Art Blakey - Three Blind Mice Vol. 1
Dizzy Gillespie - Sonny Side Up
Oliver Nelson - Blues And The Abstract Truth
Johnny Griffin - A Blowing Session

And if you liked Bitches Brew, then that opens up a whole new set of recommendations, since that kind of fusion has its own big discography to go through...

algebra testes
Mar 5, 2011


Lipstick Apathy

thathonkey posted:

Here are some of the albums and artists I like so far. I was hoping someone could help me figure out where to go next, and also to classify these artists into the various subgenres because I have no idea what to call this music besides just the overarching genre label 'jazz':

John Coltrane - Blue Train - He never did an album like this again, so you're pretty much SOL. Maybe some Dexter Gordon would do the trick.

Mingus - Ah Um - Any Columbia Mingus.

Miles Davis Quintet - Workin with Miles - He a series of (verb)in' albums. Check out those.

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue, Bitch's Brew - Bitches Brew like stuff check out "In a Silent Way" it's the direct prequal in terms of style and sensebilities. In terms of post bitches brew you may be going a bit off the deep end with anthing further than that. With Kind of Blue, yet again it's a one of a kind album, but I'd look into his Colombia works from that era. There are two live albums the band put out that I quote previously, but they're more bop tunes.

Bill Evans Trio - Waltz For Debby, Portrait in Jazz - Any "early" Bill Evans before he started doing really whack stuff is fine. Also, the Keith Jarrett "Standards Trio" plays a lot of stuff like this.

BigFactory
Sep 17, 2002

thathonkey posted:

After not really "getting" Jazz for the longest time, over the past month I've started really getting into it. Thing is: I have no idea what I'm doing. I've been sort of randomly poking around my parents old record collection/Spotify for stuff to listen to.


My best advice is to pick up a couple of books on jazz history and especially read all your liner notes cover to cover. Learn who the players are and follow sidemen. If you find yourself listening to a bunch of Kenny G, you did something wrong.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
Thanks for the tip. Could you recommend a good book on jazz history that will steer me clear of Kenny G?

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

nemoulette posted:

I've casually listened jazz for a while now and have unsurprisingly found stuff like Kind of Blue and Take Five to be the sort of stuff I enjoy the most. From there, I usually just click around on Spotify at will. Can anyone recommend me their five favorite live recordings that might be up my alley based on my previous experiences?

Oscar Peterson Trio - We Get Requests one of the most accessible jazz records ever, love this. you can hear them breathing in the background if you listen closely enough.

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene

thathonkey posted:



edit: \/\/\/\/ thank you sir! I do enjoy Bitches Brew, and I realize it is quite a bit different style of jazz than the other stuff I listed. I think I like the other Miles Davis stuff I've heard more though. Seems like Miles was at the forefront of many new jazz frontiers over the years... is that a fair assessment? Is he considered one of the most prolific jazz artists?

Yes, basically. He both started and was apart of every single jazz movement from bebop all the way to jazz funk, the last big jazz trend. He's the quintessentially perfect jazz musician, but there are many others just as amazing as he was, like Coltrane, who also started a couple jazz movements himself.

White Rabbit
Sep 8, 2004

We Do Not Sow.
This is unrelated and unrequested but it's been missing from this thread, fellow frenchie Julien Lourau's Lonely Night

From his experimental album Gambit which I highly recommend.

Skillface
Oct 7, 2012
A friend and I got into jazz a few years back, me playing bass and him guitar. We started playing coffee shops and whatnot, and I really got into the whole low-key guitar/bass duo idea -- as a bass player, it's extremely interesting to play without a drummer.

As a result, I wanted to recommend Live at Bourbon Street by Lenny Breau & Dave Young. Not really something to bob your head to, as so much of this music is ambience-focused...but it's extremely relaxing and beautiful, and Lenny is extraordinary as always.

Here's "I Fall In Love Too Easily"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFhKmfwM_Uc

Azure_Horizon
Mar 27, 2010

by Reene
Got another recommendation for electronic jazz: The DJ Flying Lotus. Cosmogramma was an incredibly jazz-influenced electronic/hiphop album, but his newest, Until the Quiet Comes is basically free jazz meets electronica, and it's incredible.

Here's a taste, "Tea Leaf Dancers": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKQVcJ_Zi9M

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Pas2
Nov 25, 2002
So David S. Ware died yesterday. :(

Farewell, you magnificent spirit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToYhjBKsTqA

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