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Irisi posted:That's the thing, I can get along perfectly well with most types of inoffensive comedy, old or otherwise. Outnumbered is fine, Dads Army doesn't make me blink, I actually do love The Good Life. But Miranda makes me snarl, and I don't quite understand why. The half hearted way she oafishly lazes out her luke-warm attempts at comedy with as much effort as a damp fart whilst having the entire country go loving crazy for it? That's what makes me snarl at her. I saw umpteen hilarious yet desperately struggling comedians at the fringe this year while she prances about on TV reminding me that the majority of people in this country are tasteless idiots.
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Kin posted:The half hearted way she oafishly lazes out her luke-warm attempts at comedy with as much effort as a damp fart whilst having the entire country go loving crazy for it? Yeah, I was at the Fringe too, and just ended up thinking "How do people like Michael McIntyre and Miranda Hart have spots on national TV and some of these people don't?!" One of my favourite up-and-coming comedians is Nick Helm. He's had some spots on Live at the Electric, and he's utterly brilliant. His persona just works so well.
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Sep 29, 2012 10:15
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Josie Long is intensely annoying and I'm glad we can all admit that now in this thread without boatloads of comments about her being 'so adorable'.
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Sep 29, 2012 10:36
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I like her  I'll concede she isn't very funny though
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Paperhouse posted:He literally has a book that just has transcripts of his stand-up shows (and footnotes explaining where he got the joke/idea) and it's all hilarious. I hope I'm not the only one here who doesn't think Stewart Lee is all that great. I liked Comedy Vehicle ok, it was pretty funny in parts, but I recently watched his stand up and I fell asleep halfway through. I get his kind of humour fine, I just don't think it's amazing like everyone says it is.
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Sep 29, 2012 13:10
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I'm the same way. I mean, he makes me laugh, but people seem to make out like he is the funniest comedian on Earth, when he's just...decent.
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NaDy posted:I hope I'm not the only one here who doesn't think Stewart Lee is all that great. I liked Comedy Vehicle ok, it was pretty funny in parts, but I recently watched his stand up and I fell asleep halfway through. I get his kind of humour fine, I just don't think it's amazing like everyone says it is. I find him unbearable. I like some of his stuff, but I couldn't sit through an hour of it.
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Sep 29, 2012 21:38
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Sep 29, 2012 21:41
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I like Stewart Lee as a person.
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Every single discussion about comedy in the history of the internet has always ended up with someone going "It's almost as if humour is subjective".
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Carrier posted:Its almost as if humour is subjective. No way man. Anything I think is funny, is funny. If someone else doesn't find it funny then they are weird and have a weird sense of humour.
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Sep 29, 2012 22:05
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Hoops posted:Every single discussion about comedy in the history of the internet has always ended up with someone going "It's almost as if humour is subjective".
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Sep 29, 2012 22:27
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Can everyone gently caress off with the subjective humour thing? We all know that there isn't a golden measure of comedy brilliance but its pretty obvious we can meaningfully discuss the relative merits and flaws of comedians. Unless you actually think that all comedians are equally good and its just your random reaction to them which warrants a different opinion (if you're retarded) then shut up. People can evaluate media and art and if you disagree with someone's evaluation don't just pretend its because humour is totally subjective, thats some really irritating college philosophy level bullshit right there.
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VogeGandire posted:Yeah, I was at the Fringe too, and just ended up thinking "How do people like Michael McIntyre and Miranda Hart have spots on national TV and some of these people don't?!" His persona of being the biggest goony loving neckbeard around? He did a gig for my Uni, and just hurled abuse and sexual propositions at the audience. For three. drat. hours.
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Captain Mediocre posted:Can everyone gently caress off with the subjective humour thing? We all know that there isn't a golden measure of comedy brilliance but its pretty obvious we can meaningfully discuss the relative merits and flaws of comedians. Unless you actually think that all comedians are equally good and its just your random reaction to them which warrants a different opinion (if you're retarded) then shut up. People can evaluate media and art and if you disagree with someone's evaluation don't just pretend its because humour is totally subjective, thats some really irritating college philosophy level bullshit right there. Apparently where you went to school and who your parents were are the greatest deciders on if you can find a comedian funny or not, judging by this thread.
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I really like Stewart Lee's standup, the one with the 'its political correctness gone mad' routine. loving hilarious. I also like the now dead American stand up Bill Hicks ( seems to be be free on youtube for whatever reason, maybe its cos hes dead [NWS] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMjNT_dTeB8 ) [/NWS] Probably my all time fave. That live recording of 'sane man' was probably his best work. You are allowed to like more than one thing you know. Seaside Loafer fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Sep 30, 2012 |
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I find Miranda's aggressively inoffensive nature offensive in and of itself. Art without ambition is contemptible. If you want to talk about comedians that are wildly popular but also poo poo, take a look at the love for Louis C.K. among our colonial brethren here. They talk about him as if he were the second coming, and from what I've seen it's just more of the same old awful US style stand-up.
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I don't quite understand the hype of Louie C.K's stand up but I really love "Louie". Its not something that makes me laugh out loud every single week but I'm completely glued to my screen when its on.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:His persona of being the biggest goony loving neckbeard around? He did a gig for my Uni, and just hurled abuse and sexual propositions at the audience. For three. drat. hours. I also wouldn't judge "who should be on tv" by the, being able to put on a decent fringe show. 50 minutes vs 3 hours for a tv series.
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Gorn Myson posted:I don't quite understand the hype of Louie C.K's stand up but I really love "Louie". Its not something that makes me laugh out loud every single week but I'm completely glued to my screen when its on. Louie is great, the latest episodes with David Lynch were hilarious.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:His persona of being the biggest goony loving neckbeard around? He did a gig for my Uni, and just hurled abuse and sexual propositions at the audience. For three. drat. hours. Well, part of his persona is antagonizing the crowd. Three hours of it might be a bit long though, yeah. This is amazing though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7lFzRzMw1w
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FreakyZoid posted:I also wouldn't judge "who should be on tv" by the, being able to put on a decent fringe show. 50 minutes vs 3 hours for a tv series. You mean 50 minutes vs 30 minutes often repeated week after week with minor variations right?
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VogeGandire posted:Well, part of his persona is antagonizing the crowd. Three hours of it might be a bit long though, yeah. "I love you" is great, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YopP_StgjVY but the crowd had turned on by then and it failed terribly.
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Gorn Myson posted:I don't quite understand the hype of Louie C.K's stand up but I really love "Louie". Its not something that makes me laugh out loud every single week but I'm completely glued to my screen when its on. I never really got his stand-up, either. I'd watched a few bits and pieces but had to turn them off. I've recently gotten into Louie, though. I'd watched most of the first series around a year ago and just stopped for some reason until last week. I'm almost finished series 2 and love it. Last night, I watched his latest stand-up to see if getting the series would help me get his stand-up and I absolutely loved it. Not sure if it's different to the stuff I'd seen before or if it's a Seinfeld type thing where it took me a while to get his humour.
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Congratulations guys, you managed to derail the thread so hard nobody even mentioned how completely and utterly amazing The Thick of It was last night. Whoever shot the slow balloon rise shot needs an award.
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Lord Thiefington posted:Congratulations guys, you managed to derail the thread so hard nobody even mentioned how completely and utterly amazing The Thick of It was last night. It's all going (gone) down here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3507221
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Strom Cuzewon posted:"I love you" is great, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YopP_StgjVY but the crowd had turned on by then and it failed terribly.
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Seaside Loafer posted:Why do you say that? That was really funny. Never heard of that guy before so thanks for the linky. Whoops, meant to say "turned on him". When you have repeated hecklers you ain't going to sway them with that.
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Mickolution posted:I never really got his stand-up, either. I'd watched a few bits and pieces but had to turn them off. I've recently gotten into Louie, though. I'd watched most of the first series around a year ago and just stopped for some reason until last week. I'm almost finished series 2 and love it. Louie is completely unique in that it's someone's unfiltered thoughts coming through in half hour bursts each week. Sometimes it's funny, other times it plays it completely straight but it's purely Louis CK. It's brilliant television who's only real constraint is limited to when the creative force runs out of ideas. The 3-part episode this season was brilliant. While I find some of the standup stuff hit-and-miss, the highs are really high. Plus, there's something admirable about writing a show to go on tour with, doing a year and then never repeating it again because if people have paid to watch him they shouldn't have to see him do the same jokes they've seen on TV or on a DVD. Once that tour is over the show is done for and he sits back down and writes a new set. Given that some comedians make a living dredging up the same poo poo over and over there's something admirable about that. To end the lovefest, he also says that he puts what he thinks are the strongest jokes he has at that point at the start of the show so he can force himself to write better.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Whoops, meant to say "turned on him". When you have repeated hecklers you ain't going to sway them with that. e: but yeah 3 hours of it might be a bit much Seaside Loafer fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Sep 30, 2012 |
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DrVenkman posted:Louie is completely unique in that it's someone's unfiltered thoughts coming through in half hour bursts each week. Sometimes it's funny, other times it plays it completely straight but it's purely Louis CK. It's brilliant television who's only real constraint is limited to when the creative force runs out of ideas. The 3-part episode this season was brilliant. The one I watched was the recent Beacon Theatre show. Any others you'd recommend? DrVenkman posted:Plus, there's something admirable about writing a show to go on tour with, doing a year and then never repeating it again because if people have paid to watch him they shouldn't have to see him do the same jokes they've seen on TV or on a DVD. Once that tour is over the show is done for and he sits back down and writes a new set. Given that some comedians make a living dredging up the same poo poo over and over there's something admirable about that. Don't most comics do that these days? I know some of the bigger acts have been doing the same stuff for years now, but most UK/Ireland acts seem to tour a new show every year. I know it wasn't always that way, but in recent times, what with DVD sales being so big, they pretty much have to. DrVenkman posted:To end the lovefest, he also says that he puts what he thinks are the strongest jokes he has at that point at the start of the show so he can force himself to write better. Yeah, he mentioned that on that insufferably self indulgent Talking Funny show a couple of years back. I did enjoy it because I'm interested in comedy, but so much of it was them slapping each other on the back. Also, Gervais had no right to be there and only was because it was his production company that was making it.
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Mickolution posted:The one I watched was the recent Beacon Theatre show. Any others you'd recommend?
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Nice one, I'll check that one out next.
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Mickolution posted:Don't most comics do that these days? I know some of the bigger acts have been doing the same stuff for years now, but most UK/Ireland acts seem to tour a new show every year. I know it wasn't always that way, but in recent times, what with DVD sales being so big, they pretty much have to. For example, if you've seen Helm on TV he'll either do a couple of his songs or his jokes - these are taken from his shows (which is a shame in his case, because a lot of what makes his character great is seeing the hyper-agressive macho posturing slowly strip away to his very insecure core, with the show ending on a high when he regains his mojo). That's also what's so fun about gigs like Set List (which they've just recorded for TV, so there's some relevance for you), you know you're going to see new material.
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FreakyZoid posted:If you only ever go and see tour shows. But if you go to mixed bill nights, or see them on panel shows and the like, most comedians have a 10 or 20 minute set picked from their existing material. That's very true, I wasn't thinking of that tbh. Speaking of those type of shows, I was at one last month and a UK comedian called John Luke Roberts was there. I'd never heard of him before, but he was excellent. One of the best I've seen in a long time and certainly the best of the night. Tony Law was good too, but Roberts was really great. I was worried when he came out that he was going to be a bit too "wacky" for my liking, but he pulled it off really well.
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FreakyZoid posted:For example, if you've seen Helm on TV he'll either do a couple of his songs or his jokes - these are taken from his shows (which is a shame in his case, because a lot of what makes his character great is seeing the hyper-agressive macho posturing slowly strip away to his very insecure core, with the show ending on a high when he regains his mojo). That just reminds me of one of his best moments on Live at the Electric, when he came onto the stage in trousers that were obviously too long for him, with the button undone and just declared "THESE ARE A 36 MEDIUM. SO NOT ONLY AM I GETTING FATTER, I'M SHRINKING."
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John Luke Roberts is great - he does a brilliant bit with insult cards. He does a fair amount of writing for panel shows as well if I remember rightly.
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FreakyZoid posted:John Luke Roberts is great - he does a brilliant bit with insult cards. He does a fair amount of writing for panel shows as well if I remember rightly. Hoops fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Sep 30, 2012 |
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