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crazyfish
Sep 19, 2002

Splizwarf posted:

I finally scored one of these the other day. Is there any "recommended" drinking temp/glass/etc for it?

I'd drink it like I'd drink any other big stout. Low 50s, out of a snifter.

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Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

Splizwarf posted:

I finally scored one of these the other day. Is there any "recommended" drinking temp/glass/etc for it?

I'll be drinking it from my Dogfish Head stemmed glass that's similar to a snifter and I'll take it from my fridge and let it warm up for 15 minutes before pouring. Nothing special.

Edit: Okay, why the gently caress doesn't Lagunitas make Day Time year round? This is excellent.

Midorka fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Sep 28, 2012

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

Whooooops looks like an impromptu weekend trip to Portland (OR) is in order starting tomorrow. I don't know poo poo about this city yet beerwise. Where should I go if I want (a) neat bars to hang out at (b) tiny little breweries?

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


Ubik posted:

Depends on how breweries keep track of inventory. I know Goose Island only puts dates on the bottles, but we have plenty of data to keep track of what was bottled/kegged on what date. And if you blend batches, that batch code becomes useless anyway. For something like Bourbon County Stout, where we often mix barrels from different batches into one fermenter, and then process multiple fermenters into the same bright beer tank, getting that properly documented on the bottle would be impossible.

I also agree that "Best By" dates are crappy and spurious as hell.

I know Great Lakes does their dating based on measuring O2 in the suspension on bottling (or something similar) basically saying "with this much O2 it might start staling by XXX date.

americanzero4128
Jul 20, 2009
Grimey Drawer
The Binny's by me must have just gotten a shipment of Founder's Breakfast Stout in. I stopped by after work and picked up a sixer of Summit Oktoberfest but I think I'm going to go back to get a four pack of the Breakfast Stout and a bomber of some sort of pumpkin beer. And my parents are coming to visit tomorrow and are bringing a sixer of Schlafly Pumpkin Ale for me. Awesome.

Tigren
Oct 3, 2003

SUPER HASSLER posted:

Whooooops looks like an impromptu weekend trip to Portland (OR) is in order starting tomorrow. I don't know poo poo about this city yet beerwise. Where should I go if I want (a) neat bars to hang out at (b) tiny little breweries?

Neat bars: Apex, Green Dragon, Bailey's Taproom

Breweries: Cascade, Upright, HUB, Hair of the Dog, Lompoc, Amnesia

And many many more.

danbanana
Jun 7, 2008

OG Bell's fanboi
Hit a shop on my way home from work and ran across about a half case of Black Xantus. I've had it on tap and liked it quite a bit. Very pumped and if the bottle I snagged is as good as I remember, I'll be going back for another.

consensual poster
Sep 1, 2009

SUPER HASSLER posted:

Whooooops looks like an impromptu weekend trip to Portland (OR) is in order starting tomorrow. I don't know poo poo about this city yet beerwise. Where should I go if I want (a) neat bars to hang out at (b) tiny little breweries?

If you are into sour beers at all, you MUST go to the Cascade Brewing Barrel House.

If you like farmhouse ales, you should try The Commons and Upright Brewing.

Apex is a great bar if you want to drink German, some Belgian style beers, or hoppy California-style ales. They have a great patio out front. Not a ton of Oregon beers there, though.

Bailey's Taproom is one of my favorite beer bars. 20 rotating taps and heavily Oregon-focused. It's downtown, so it would be a good bar to do in conjunction with the Deschutes Portland Brewpub. The best stuff there is usually brewed at and limited to the Portland pub, so it might actually be worth visiting even though you are in Bend.

Belmont Station is a fantastic bottle shop with an attached Beer Cafe.

EDIT: All of the stuff that Tigren mentioned is really good. Not a big fan of Lompoc personally, but lots of people love them.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

crazyfish posted:

I'd drink it like I'd drink any other big stout. Low 50s, out of a snifter.

Low 50s being the serving temperature, that is. By the time you're finishing, the end will hopefully be around room temperature where I find big stouts really open up. I'll often take my stouts out of the fridge for well over an hour before I serve them, because I like to get right at that 65-70 degree sweet spot. It's really all preference though, as long as you pull it out of the fridge half an hour or so before serving you should be solid.

Tigren
Oct 3, 2003

Perfectly Cromulent posted:

If you are into sour beers at all, you MUST go to the Cascade Brewing Barrel House.

If you like farmhouse ales, you should try The Commons and Upright Brewing.

Apex is a great bar if you want to drink German, some Belgian style beers, or hoppy California-style ales. They have a great patio out front. Not a ton of Oregon beers there, though.

Bailey's Taproom is one of my favorite beer bars. 20 rotating taps and heavily Oregon-focused. It's downtown, so it would be a good bar to do in conjunction with the Deschutes Portland Brewpub. The best stuff there is usually brewed at and limited to the Portland pub, so it might actually be worth visiting even though you are in Bend.

Belmont Station is a fantastic bottle shop with an attached Beer Cafe.

EDIT: All of the stuff that Tigren mentioned is really good. Not a big fan of Lompoc personally, but lots of people love them.

I don't love Lompoc, but they're better than Lucky Lab or McMenamins and 5th Quadrant usually has some pretty solid stuff.

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Perfectly Cromulent posted:

If you are into sour beers at all, you MUST go to the Cascade Brewing Barrel House.

If you like farmhouse ales, you should try The Commons and Upright Brewing.

you are speaking the man's language.

bartolimu, i ordered myself a copy of your friend's book and will likely be able to get a few others interested, and my bookseller friend in Maine just happened to get a copy in today, so i'll be sure to let you know what everyone thinks.

blah_blah
Apr 15, 2006

Sublimer posted:

Going to Vancouver tomorrow to visit a friend. FALL BREAK 2K12!!!

I'm gonna drink Cantillon till my stomach lining wears thin!

I could possibly pick up some bottles (Classic Gueuze, Kriek, and Rose) for some of you guys... If you'd pay shipping I'd send them to you thru fedex for what I paid plus maybe a couple extra bucks for the trouble of bringing them back. Send me a message if interested or e-mail at paulbrownsr at gmail dot com. Mods if this is frowned upon let me know and I'll edit my post.

Cheers!

Edit: Wears thin, rather

Get a bottle or two of the wet-hopped Driftwood Sartori IPA if you can -- it just hit shelves yesterday and every place is selling out fast (some sold out first day). I grabbed six today, will get more if it's as good as last year's.

consensual poster
Sep 1, 2009

Tigren posted:

I don't love Lompoc, but they're better than Lucky Lab or McMenamins and 5th Quadrant usually has some pretty solid stuff.

Oh, yes, they have some good stuff. I definitely don't dislike them. There are just a lot of other places I'd prefer to go.

We ought to talk about places he should avoid. I'd stay the heck away from McMenamins, Tugboat (right next to Bailey's Taproom), Rock Bottom, Rogue, and Lucky Lab. There's too much good beer here to be drinking bad (McMenamins, Tugboat) or mediocre (Lucky Lab) beer.

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Picked up the session IPA's from founders, troegs and lagunitas.


I didn't notice nearly quite as many session ipa's last fall, but this is a good trend.

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot

Hypnolobster posted:

Picked up the session IPA's from founders, troegs and lagunitas.


I didn't notice nearly quite as many session ipa's last fall, but this is a good trend.

troegs doesn't make a session ipa?

Hypnolobster
Apr 12, 2007

What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any. :(

Oh, yeah. I was lumping in Perpetual in there for some reason. I knew it was 7ish percent but it's been a long day :v:

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Hypnolobster posted:

Picked up the session IPA's from founders, troegs and lagunitas.


I didn't notice nearly quite as many session ipa's last fall, but this is a good trend.

Drinking Day Time IPA right now and it does indeed rule. At 4.6% it's still bursting with hop flavor and aroma but the bitterness is restrained to match the very light body. This trend definitely needs to catch on. I think I have a new homebrew project.

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

Perfectly Cromulent posted:

Tell me more about The Ale Apothecary. I found some basic information on brewery and the beers, but the details are really hazy. Looks like a cool idea, but it seems like a bit of a special club kind of a thing.

No way dude, they're a full on brewery! Check out the fully-equipped delivery truck for their Bend clients

pretty sure the actual beer is in the rear of the truck, but

Seriously though, I'd say you're about right. The Ale Apothecary is basically a guy named Paul (a 15-year veteran at Deschutes Brewery) and his family, who have moved way up in the mountains around Tumalo and are brewing crazy wild-fermentation farmhouse beer. I think his original intention was to serve Bend and Portland, but he wound up getting so much investment in his ale club that for the time being anyway, his distribution will basically be his club and the one or two bottle shops in Bend where he has friends. (He talks about expansion, but I get the idea he's more interested in chilling out and enjoying the mountain life with his buds than trying to make mad profit with his brewery.)

His operation is very much the same in philosophy as Crooked Stave in CO, and in fact the Crooked Stave guy paid a visit to Paul's joint about a month ago to trade notes. I'm happy about this because I love Crooked Stave and I basically joined TAA's club because I was annoyed that I missed the chance to join CS's. I figured that if TAA were half as good as CS, it'd be worth it.

The beer they distributed today is called The Beer Formerly Known as La Tache (Paul found out just before making the labels that there's a wine in France called La Tâche), and if you like farmhouse, this is totally up your alley. Crazy amounts of brett (without crossing the threshold to smelling horrible) on the aroma, plus a bit of oak age in the palate that is sure to take center stage more and more as time goes by.

I reckon it's too early to judge him just yet, but I think he's got the mix of talent and goofy adventurousness to produce some pretty neat poo poo. Sadly I do think that Portland is SOL unless Paul decides he really does want to run a really big barrel business after all. (Or you decide to trade with me :unsmith:)

SUPER HASSLER fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Sep 29, 2012

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!
I'm super excited to hear that Oskar Blues is going to start to distribute in OH, and KY.

They're a brewery I've been very interested in trying, but never got around to trading for some.

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

Aw congrats :unsmith:

If it's the same there as in the rest of the US, that'll be a source of very good hi-alcohol beers at very reasonable prices, specially Ten Fidy/Gubna/Deviant Dale's.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

SUPER HASSLER posted:

Aw congrats :unsmith:

If it's the same there as in the rest of the US, that'll be a source of very good hi-alcohol beers at very reasonable prices, specially Ten Fidy/Gubna/Deviant Dale's.

I can think of many more beers that are good and give much better alcohol to price ratios starting with Golden Monkey, Storm King, Troegenator, and Exit 4. All are under $12 for a 6 pack here, so $2 a beer. Deviant and Ten Fidy are nowhere near the price/alcohol ratio and honestly I think Ten Fidy is horribly overpriced, it's good but gently caress off $14 4 packs when I can get Old Rasputin or Storm King.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

Midorka posted:

I can think of many more beers that are good and give much better alcohol to price ratios starting with Golden Monkey, Storm King, Troegenator, and Exit 4. All are under $12 for a 6 pack here, so $2 a beer. Deviant and Ten Fidy are nowhere near the price/alcohol ratio and honestly I think Ten Fidy is horribly overpriced, it's good but gently caress off $14 4 packs when I can get Old Rasputin or Storm King.

If there's anything bad I can say about Victory it's that their high-alcohol beers are good enough and reasonably priced enough that it took me years to really notice that their more normal strength beers are pretty great too.

deadwing
Mar 5, 2007

Midorka posted:

honestly I think Ten Fidy is horribly overpriced, it's good but gently caress off $14 4 packs when I can get Old Rasputin or Storm King.

I sure hope you don't buy seven dollar bombers of imperial stouts!

Sublimer
Sep 20, 2007
get yo' game up


Midorka posted:

honestly I think Ten Fidy is horribly overpriced, it's good but gently caress off $14 4 packs when I can get Old Rasputin or Storm King.

I'd definitely buy a 4 pack or 2 of Ten Fidy for $14. Around where I live Old Rasputin is only a few bucks cheaper and from what I remember of drinking Ten Fidy (Which admittedly isn't much) it's better. I'm pumped Oskar Blues is going to start distributing to my state soon!

BONUS PIC


I'm drinking my first Westy 12 right now. Paid too much for it at a Vancouver liquor store that is probably selling it illegally as it doesn't have the label on it like the ones that got sent over here for retail sale. I know this beer is hyped to all hell but it is really the best quad I've ever had.

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!

deadwing posted:

I sure hope you don't buy seven dollar bombers of imperial stouts!

Yeah, I buy beers all the time that are $12+ in bombers, so I have no problem shelling out a bit extra cash for some Oskar Blues.

I'm just excited about having fantastic beer, from another great brewery, available in OH. We really are beginning to have some of the best beer selection around... if only we could get rid of that pesky 12% abv cap we've got.

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!
edit: Crap, double posted.

To add additional content instead of simply double posting... I will say that recently I got to try Willoughby Brewing Company's Peanut Butter Cup Porter.

While the name of the beer itself has Peanut Butter Cup in it, I didn't get much Peanut Butter flavor from it. It was an outstanding beer on its own, I just really wish I would have been able to taste the peanut butter a bit more. I got a hint of coffee also, but the most pronounced flavor to me was the chocolate.

I'd rate it a 4/5, and I look forward to trying it again! I only wish it was available on tap at more places around me...

Kudosx fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Sep 30, 2012

funkybottoms
Oct 28, 2010

Funky Bottoms is a land man

Kudosx posted:

I'm just excited about having fantastic beer, from another great brewery, available in OH. We really are beginning to have some of the best beer selection around... if only we could get rid of that pesky 12% abv cap we've got.

and you've got a Mekong in Sandusky, so it's only a matter of time before you have the second-best beer bar in America!

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
Don't normally post here, just occasionally browse. Anyways, I wanted to make my first brag post because tonight I won a bottle of Westvleteran 12 from 2001 in a raffle tonight. The Funky Buddha out of Boca Raton, FL (purveyors of Maple Bacon Coffee Porter, the Imperial version Wide Awake, and its Bourbon Barrel aged counterpart, Morning Wood) had their anniversary party. So, not only did I get Morning Wood tonight, but I also got some Westy, and 12 year old Westy at that.

I did miss out on the 2000 Cantillon Gueze though, but you can't win them all.

wattershed
Dec 27, 2002

Radio got his free iPod, did you get yours???
Speaking of Westy, I kind of lost track on their American importation plans, anyone have an update?

Kudosx
Jun 6, 2006

it's raining zerglings!

swickles posted:

Don't normally post here, just occasionally browse. Anyways, I wanted to make my first brag post because tonight I won a bottle of Westvleteran 12 from 2001 in a raffle tonight. The Funky Buddha out of Boca Raton, FL (purveyors of Maple Bacon Coffee Porter, the Imperial version Wide Awake, and its Bourbon Barrel aged counterpart, Morning Wood) had their anniversary party. So, not only did I get Morning Wood tonight, but I also got some Westy, and 12 year old Westy at that.

I did miss out on the 2000 Cantillon Gueze though, but you can't win them all.

Have you ever tried Westy 12 before, or will the 10 year vintage be your first? I can't wait til I get the chance to try any Westy!

rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...

wattershed posted:

Speaking of Westy, I kind of lost track on their American importation plans, anyone have an update?

Its imported but Shelton hasn't done anything yet, I don't know wtf is going on and one of my buddies thats a distributor and does a lot of stuff with Shelton keeps getting noncommital responses about what the plan is and if he can get any.

Midorka
Jun 10, 2011

I have a pretty fucking good palate, passed BJCP and level 2 cicerone which is more than half of you dudes can say, so I don't give a hoot anymore about this toxic community.

deadwing posted:

I sure hope you don't buy seven dollar bombers of imperial stouts!

I'm fully aware of the price/ounce cost ratio going down the drain with a bomber, but there's something about a bomber that makes it seem like it hurts far less.

I still see no reason to buy Ten Fidy over Old Rasputin or Storm King, with Storm King being near half the price on a per ounce basis. Ten Fidy is good, but I'll buy Breakfast Stout over it for the same price. I dunno I guess I'm just one of those people who doesn't care about Ten Fidy.

Amarkov
Jun 21, 2010
Some friends and I had some Sam Adams Octoberfest the other day, but because we're newbies at beer drinking (We had something that wasn't made by Coors :V) we couldn't come up with a description for the taste except "really beery". What were we trying to identify, and what other beers should we try if we liked it?

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002
Sam Adams Octoberfest is a marzen. Sweeter, medium-to-full-bodied, with an emphasis on toasted malt flavors. Subdued hops in the finish - usually more earthy than straight up bitter. Sam Adams' offering is a good example, and it is widely available and very consistently brewed. If you enjoyed that, I'd recommend the Oktoberfest offerings from Ayinger, Paulaner, or Spaten for more traditional German marzens. For a slightly more American spin, Victory's Festbier and the high-octane Kaiser from Avery. Personally, I enjoy Ayinger's Oktoberfest and Avery's Kaiser the most. Kaiser is sweeter, nuttier, and packs quite a bit of warmth. Not as suitable if you want to have two or three in a sitting but it is divine if you're just sitting on the porch on a cool evening. The Victory offering is good, but I found the hop profile slightly off-putting... too citrusy. It's still a good beer, but when I want a marzen, I want round, sweet malts and a smooth finish that blends well with the other flavors. Citrus hops just don't do it for me, here.

FreelanceSocialist fucked around with this message at 13:25 on Sep 30, 2012

nah
Mar 16, 2009

swickles posted:

Don't normally post here, just occasionally browse. Anyways, I wanted to make my first brag post because tonight I won a bottle of Westvleteran 12 from 2001 in a raffle tonight. The Funky Buddha out of Boca Raton, FL (purveyors of Maple Bacon Coffee Porter, the Imperial version Wide Awake, and its Bourbon Barrel aged counterpart, Morning Wood) had their anniversary party. So, not only did I get Morning Wood tonight, but I also got some Westy, and 12 year old Westy at that.

I did miss out on the 2000 Cantillon Gueze though, but you can't win them all.

Last time I went to Funky Buddha, Ryan gave me a bottle of 2004 Lou Pepe Geueze. FB is pretty awesome.

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

My wife's in Salt Lake City for a conference and asked for some beer recommendations. I told her to look for Epic, Uinta and Squatters... anything else really outstanding there that I'm missing? She strongly dislikes hoppy beers but enjoys most other craft brews and adores sours.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know

Kudosx posted:

Have you ever tried Westy 12 before, or will the 10 year vintage be your first? I can't wait til I get the chance to try any Westy!

I have had it before, but never one aged like this. Also, if anyone gets a chance to go to Funky Buddha, and you are into sours, they have some phenomenal Berlierweisses. A lot of people liked the starfruit, but I wasn't a huge fan. The lemon merengue however....

cryme
Apr 9, 2004

by zen death robot
The funky buddha key lime and passionfruit berliners are killer. The maple bacon coffee porter was pretty incredible too.

SUPER HASSLER
Jan 31, 2005

Portland report so far.

Cascade totally rocks and despite the prices on bottles, I feel that I don't miss New Glarus' fruit beers quite so much anymore.

Green Dragon (literally across the street from Cascade) rocks if you can get over the fact it's owned by Rogue. Buckman had something called a "black saison" which I don't know what's in it but it tastes like you'd expect from that label and was pretty spectacular.

Bailey's Taproom really rocks -- the selection is good, the prices are good, and I'm a sucker for digital beer menu boards. A stereotypical Portland hipster gentleman was so drunk there that he gave me $10 apparently for being from Bend and watching his beer while he was in the john.

I'll see about the Apex tonight.

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rage-saq
Mar 21, 2001

Thats so ninja...
Hair of the Dog is just a few blocks down from Cascade and always has awesome taps and awesome food going.

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