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Elgar
Mar 12, 2005
Hey guys, what is going on I don't understand.

Simkin posted:

1 CMBG Comd authorized wet mess for all Bde exes. :rock:

Just got back from Ex Patricia Unforgiven and the best smoker I've ever seen. Hell, even Wainwright cooperated with non-lovely weather.

Anyone know much about dealing with the brits? We're going to be spending some quality time with them next month in Suffield. All I've been able to gather so far is that their food sucks, they treat their men (generally) poorly, and that they are very competent. Oh, and that they're using tracked vehicles and we will somehow be following them in LAVs. hahahah.

I was surprised at how smoothly it went.

Also have fun pillaging our coy, I won't be around for any of silliness now anyway because I'll get to deal with the 3rd who already has 106 VRs in this year apparantly, airborne huahh

Frosted Flake posted:

Be very carefully with this, I know a guy who missed out on ROTP because he was taking ADD medication and had to do a medical appeal to reapply the next year. It took 3 months to get his medical stuff in order. If I remember, he got a letter to the effect of that the policy is that since the CF can't supply you with the medication in the field, it's a no-go.

This is only if having the medication is a must have. If you can go and function without the medication (even if not at 100%) you are fine, however if it is imperative you need it, then yes it is no good. So whoever gave him that letter is retarded and don't know what the gently caress they are talking about.

Elgar fucked around with this message at 04:55 on Sep 24, 2012

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Elgar
Mar 12, 2005
Hey guys, what is going on I don't understand.

Frosted Flake posted:

Be very carefully with this, I know a guy who missed out on ROTP because he was taking ADD medication and had to do a medical appeal to reapply the next year. It took 3 months to get his medical stuff in order. If I remember, he got a letter to the effect of that the policy is that since the CF can't supply you with the medication in the field, it's a no-go.

This is only if having the medication is a must have. If you can go and function without the medication (even if not at 100%) you are fine, however if it is imperative you need it, then yes it is no good. So whoever gave him that letter is retarded and don't know what the gently caress they are talking about.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Does anyone else have problems with 17 year olds getting blackout in the mess?
It's becoming a real problem for my section, and making us all look bad but I don't know who I'm supposed to take this to.

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe
Don't drink with anyone in the military?

Doesn't matter how old you are, someone is going to be a complete rear end in a top hat in the mess eventually.

swagger like us
Oct 27, 2005

Don't mind me. We must protect rapists and misogynists from harm. If they're innocent they must not be named. Surely they'll never harm their sleeping, female patients. Watch me defend this in great detail. I am not a mens rights activist either.

Frosted Flake posted:

Does anyone else have problems with 17 year olds getting blackout in the mess?
It's becoming a real problem for my section, and making us all look bad but I don't know who I'm supposed to take this to.

Well, I like to take a "harm reduction" take on this. 17 year olds, especially in the military, are going to get blackout drunk no matter what. If you hammer down on it with stupid rules or regs within the mess, they'll just go elsewhere. But, its better they get blackout drunk around people that'll take care of them in a mess rather then in a downtown bar or pub where they'll get in fight with bouncers and civvies.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

swagger like us posted:

But, its better they get blackout drunk around people that'll take care of them in a mess rather then in a downtown bar or pub where they'll get in fight with bouncers and civvies.

Heh, good one, I've seen more fights in messes than I have in bars.

HammerOfHope
Apr 21, 2003

Pounding away since 1984.
On the other hand, consider that your mess might lose its liquor licence if they are caught.

swagger like us
Oct 27, 2005

Don't mind me. We must protect rapists and misogynists from harm. If they're innocent they must not be named. Surely they'll never harm their sleeping, female patients. Watch me defend this in great detail. I am not a mens rights activist either.

My Spirit Otter posted:

Heh, good one, I've seen more fights in messes than I have in bars.

Well yeah but that way they aren't fighting random civvies and getting thrown in jail and its instead only fighting other military.

Its just better for everyone involved that some civvie doesnt get his face cratered in all the time in downtown pubs or drinking and driving and all that poo poo.

Mr.48
May 1, 2007

MA-Horus posted:

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

the lsvw

ahahahahahaha

what a loving piece of poo poo. I hate that piece of crap so much.

We were once driving an LSVW up the Hog's Back in Meaford as fast as we could. School-buses full of recruits were overtaking us.

Also, I never realized Shilo was THAT bad:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/story/2012/10/01/mb-bestiality-cfb-shilo-charge.html

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

Someone make with this guy's unit. I want to know if I should hate 1RCHA just a little bit more.

Nofeed
Sep 14, 2008

My Spirit Otter posted:

Someone make with this guy's unit. I want to know if I should hate 1RCHA just a little bit more.

Tyson Larry Shiels of 1RCHA, apparently.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.

Nofeed posted:

Tyson Larry Shiels of 1RCHA, apparently.

Another proud black mark on 1RCHA.

Samu
Jan 11, 2010

The only thing I hate more than hippie neo-liberal fascists and anarchists are the hypocrite fat cat suits they grow up to become.
Anyone ever done the CQC course? I'm getting put on one next month and I hear it's just basically do PT and get the poo poo kicked out of you. Also might get to go on my basic recce course because I got kinda screwed out of going to Ottawa for the Army Run. I plan on being the combat engineer with the most non-trade related courses in the army. As long as I don't get drunk and try to fight my squadron 2IC again I should be good to go.

Seriously though I've decided that I'm never going to get drunk at smokers or go to Army bars on the Northside of Edmonton ever again. Doesn't end well especially since I stop caring about rank and call people on their bullshit after a 6 pack of beers.

Oh and if any of you guys are Strats, I just want to tell you that your recce troop guys are awesome.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.
My old sergeant did the CQC course and he is not what I'd call the definition of fitness. On the other hand, a MBdr of mine did part of the CQC course but hosed his back up on it. My sergeant did it in Shilo and the MBdr did it in Guagetown. So I guess it depends where you do it.

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!

Samu posted:

Seriously though I've decided that I'm never going to get drunk at smokers or go to Army bars on the Northside of Edmonton ever again.

This is advice everyone should follow. Especially at smokers. This isn't the old days. You can't just be a "wild guy off duty" anymore and still get good courses or deployments. Not after Somalia.

swagger like us
Oct 27, 2005

Don't mind me. We must protect rapists and misogynists from harm. If they're innocent they must not be named. Surely they'll never harm their sleeping, female patients. Watch me defend this in great detail. I am not a mens rights activist either.

My Spirit Otter posted:

My old sergeant did the CQC course and he is not what I'd call the definition of fitness. On the other hand, a MBdr of mine did part of the CQC course but hosed his back up on it. My sergeant did it in Shilo and the MBdr did it in Guagetown. So I guess it depends where you do it.

Yeah its pretty stupid to see. I train kickboxing and BJJ civvie side, and to hear about so many guys getting injured on these CQC courses is frustrating because I would bet money that the instructors are more interested in being hard as gently caress than good training methods.

But any criticism of military training gets me a "you're a loving pussy".

feldmann
Mar 30, 2011
Anyone hear anything about TF 2-13? I'm hearing work up starts (snip). My chain has said I'm probably going but it's too early to tell for sure.

My Spirit Otter
Jun 15, 2006


CANADA DOESN'T GET PENS LIKE THIS

SKILCRAFT KREW Reppin' Quality Blind Made American Products. Bitch.
Deployment schedules no matter how vague, shouldn't be posted on the internet

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe

My Spirit Otter posted:

Deployment schedules no matter how vague, shouldn't be posted on the internet

Funny you say that. I flew out to Afghanistan on the 14th of September in 2008, and I found out on August 31. Yeah I was cleared green and ready to go and all that, but a bit more than two weeks notice would have been nice.

edit: Not like it mattered anyway, my HLTA started on 7 October :(

acumen fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Oct 19, 2012

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!

My Spirit Otter posted:

Deployment schedules no matter how vague, shouldn't be posted on the internet

Yes don't spread this poo poo on the internet

man thats gross
Sep 4, 2004
So, nothing set in stone right now, but what would/should I expect as a reserve in I don't really know what yet? Toronto area and hoping to keep it that way, no degree, turning 30 soon, decent shape, some college, office and cook experience, willing to bust my rear end. What I really want/need is a full-time career, but I don't want to have to move around or gently caress off to another country for 6 months at the whims of the CF. I'm newly married and looking to start a family, and I'd like at least a modicum of stability. I've read through a lot of this thread, and a lot of CF pages, but I'm still not sure if there's really much room for reservists who want to work full-time for the CF.

ToeShoes
Sep 8, 2011

"Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!"
As far as I know you have to be pretty flexible to work full time res.

wynott dunn
Aug 9, 2006

What is to be done?

Who or what can challenge, and stand a chance at beating, the corporate juggernauts dominating the world?
Would living overseas for a significant amount of time disqualify or significantly hinder any chances of direct officer entry?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I think there is a list of countries where it is okay to do that.
It's part of the "Foreign Entanglements" or whatever section of the application.

e: My unit has a lot of Full-time reservists, including a clerk who's been with us for 20 years. There is always a place for older guys who are willing to bust their asses and keep the high school kids in line or do work that isn't as exciting for the younger guys.

Frosted Flake fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Oct 21, 2012

what son what
Nov 6, 2008

man thats gross posted:

What I really want/need is a full-time career, but I don't want to have to move around or gently caress off to another country for 6 months at the whims of the CF. I'm newly married and looking to start a family, and I'd like at least a modicum of stability. I've read through a lot of this thread, and a lot of CF pages, but I'm still not sure if there's really much room for reservists who want to work full-time for the CF.

Temporary full-time contracts are possible as a reservist, but being in the reserves isn't normally a full-time career, ya know?

If you're strongly opposed to moving around alot or the idea of going on tour, maybe you should consider other career options more. Both of those life changing things happen in the military and you don't have much control over them.

Lassitude
Oct 21, 2003

You can get fairly long taskings in the reserves (a year or more), but you're never guaranteed to get it and even if you do, you aren't guaranteed the next time. So there's always some uncertainty, more or less depending on how long you've been in, who you know, etc. Having a place near your unit that requires full-time staffing, and your trade, also factor into this a great deal.

Ultimately, as people have mentioned, the reserves isn't a good place to find full-time employment.

man thats gross
Sep 4, 2004
Cool, thanks guys. I don't think I'll completely take it off the table yet, but I definitely have a lot of thinking to do.

Late edit: Just so I'm clear on something; I was browsing through the reserve job postings, and I saw a bunch of "Class B Permanent", which, according to what I saw on Wikipedia, are basically full-time positions at 85% of the pay of regular force. Does permanent actually mean permanent in these cases? I mean, I get that this probably won't be something I could do right away, but I wouldn't mind doing the part-time thing for a while if it meant there was a real chance of some permanent full-time work down the road.

man thats gross fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Oct 22, 2012

DrakeriderCa
Feb 3, 2005

But I'm a real cowboy!
Keep in mind that Class B Permanent postings are frequently one of the first things to get cut when the government needs to save some money. There is very little job security in Class B's.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I don't know how you actually get one of those. You almost certainly need BMQ, SQ and DP1, which is going to be a few months to a year of recruit pay and part-time work.

Barrakketh
Apr 19, 2011

Victory and defeat are the same. I urge you to act but not to reflect on the fruit of the act. Seek detachment. Fight without desire.

Don't withdraw into solitude. You must act. Yet action mustn't dominate you. In the heart of action you must remain free from all attachment.
Class b contracts are reserved mostly for Sergeants and higher who work at Area/Brigade HQ and certain trades necessary to keep a unit running (i.e. Orderly Room Clerks, Supply Techs ect). Unless I'm mistaken, a class B can go up to 360 days a year of solid employment.

As mentioned, it's rather hard to get. There was a big push last year to flush out as many of these class B spiders as possible and replace them with Reg Force personnel. My unit alone saw the Adjutant, The Ops WO, the Chief Clerk and Quartermaster all replaced with Reg Force personnel. Those that remained employed are so well entrenched in their position, you'd need to burn the building down around them to root them out.

There are a few websites floating around on the internal network that list various contracts of employment. They're usually esoteric taskings like being full-time enemy force for the battle schools or inter-base shuttle driver. Hunt those down and pester your OPs WO to throw your name into the pile.

Again, do not count on full-time work year-round with the Reserves. That way madness lies.

my pet monster
Sep 22, 2008

and sometimes when you fall, you fly
Does anyone have experience applying to the RMCC? I don't have a degree, just my high school diploma, can I still apply with any hopes of being accepted? Do I have to already be an active CF member to apply, NCM or otherwise? I am former CF but not with any substantial experience, I was in for a year. It has been my long term goal to return, but in a trade I actually want. I think the RMCC is the best route for this. I'm going to call the recruitment centre in the morning but figured I'd ask goons for some info, as well.

I've been working in private security since I left the Forces, and am just about to graduate a 6-week college course on Nov. 2nd with my local police department. :jerkbag: I know but I really suck at selling myself and have no idea what might help me get into the school.

Mr.48
May 1, 2007

my pet monster posted:

Does anyone have experience applying to the RMCC? I don't have a degree, just my high school diploma, can I still apply with any hopes of being accepted? Do I have to already be an active CF member to apply, NCM or otherwise? I am former CF but not with any substantial experience, I was in for a year. It has been my long term goal to return, but in a trade I actually want. I think the RMCC is the best route for this. I'm going to call the recruitment centre in the morning but figured I'd ask goons for some info, as well.

I've been working in private security since I left the Forces, and am just about to graduate a 6-week college course on Nov. 2nd with my local police department. :jerkbag: I know but I really suck at selling myself and have no idea what might help me get into the school.

The RMC is just like any other university in terms of academic requirements (you'll have to look up the specific requirements for individual programs to see if your high-school marks are good enough). If you meet those requirements there is also an interview you have to pass, similar to when you signed up. Anybody with a high-school diploma (and meets the basic CF requirements) can apply and the fact that you already served in the CF will probably be an advantage during the interview. Having some college courses under your belt will also probably be helpful.

Edit: They will probably ask why you left the CF after only one year and now want to come back, so you might want to start thinking of a good answer ahead of time.

Edit 2: I thought about applying but in the end chose not to. Having to deal with all the army poo poo and a substantial academic load simultaneously on a daily basis sounded like more stress and work than I wanted to put up with. A better alternative is to pick a program that the RMC doesnt have, in which case they can pay for your education at a civilian university, and you would only be doing your army training in between semesters.

Mr.48 fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Oct 26, 2012

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Just got the word that I'm getting brown boots next month. I'm pretty excited.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

God I can't believe I'm actually considering this...

I saw that there's positions open for Army Communication Specialists. Which is interesting because I was under the impression that there was NO positions open anywhere for anything. Anyone know anything about these jobs?

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe

MA-Horus posted:

God I can't believe I'm actually considering this...

I saw that there's positions open for Army Communication Specialists. Which is interesting because I was under the impression that there was NO positions open anywhere for anything. Anyone know anything about these jobs?

I'm looking to get back in the regs right now too actually. I went in to the recruit centre here in London in September and there were still a bunch of trades open. They suggested I start the application process in December-January to have my paperwork come in time for the spring recruiting season or something. Hopefully this is still the case.

As far as I can recall, the "Army Comms Specialists" are a trade that used to be several different ones. The ones in my old battalion worked fairly intimately with the rifle companies and were essentially infantrymen (+radio geeks).

Gay but Spooky
Oct 25, 2005
No posistions open?

https://twitter.com/CanadianForces/status/264064686125883392

let your career take flight!!

Primus
May 14, 2007

Greater than the sum of his parts.
Do not go ACISS. Seriously. I cannot emphasize this enough.

MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

Primus posted:

Do not go ACISS. Seriously. I cannot emphasize this enough.

Any reason in particular?

Also, are officer positions overfilled as well? I don't think I'd want to go back enlisted with a degree. Because gently caress that.

Canuck-Errant
Oct 28, 2003

MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS
Grimey Drawer

MA-Horus posted:

Any reason in particular?

Also, are officer positions overfilled as well? I don't think I'd want to go back enlisted with a degree. Because gently caress that.

ACISS is Sigs, lines and LCIS wrapped into a single, "more coherent" trade. IOW more work, fewer troops

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Primus
May 14, 2007

Greater than the sum of his parts.

MA-Horus posted:

Any reason in particular?

Also, are officer positions overfilled as well? I don't think I'd want to go back enlisted with a degree. Because gently caress that.

Nobody in the new super-trade has any idea how the hell it's going to work. The way selection for the sub-occupations is handled is a 50/50 split of career-manager dartboard and people who signed up as the legacy trades (Sig Op, LCIS and Lineman).

The work isn't bad but it's not a good idea to get into the trade until they get their poo poo sorted out.

As for what ACISS does it's pretty much every single comms related thing for the Army. So computer networks, satellite links, tactical radios, long range comms, running line etc. etc.

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