Hellacopter posted:

Holy poo poo holy poo poo HOLY poo poo.

I had a phone interview with a manager yesterday for a hospital clear across the country and she said at the end that "If you will be moving on in this process you'll hear from HR." Okay sure, that's cool, I'm not too invested in the job and that I actually got an interview was reward (and unexpected) itself, so either a yea or a nay would be okay with me. Phone rings this morning and it's the lovely HR recruiter that first contacted me and set the interview up.

Hi Hellacopter, I heard you had an interview with Ms. Manager yesterday. She was very impressed and she wanted me to ask if you were interested in coming out here for a face-to-face meeting with her and doing some job shadowing with some of the nurses on the unit.
Aw, thanks recruiter, that would be wonderful but I'm a brokeass new grad and flying out there would be a burden for me. (I was kind of sad because thought that the phone interview was the deciding factor and that I wouldn't have to fly myself around to continue the interview process)
Oh no, don't worry! It'd be on us and our travel department would set it up. Flight, hotel, and rental car so you can start checking out potential housing while you're there.
In that case, hell yeah!
Okay! Let's plan for 2 weeks from now. You'll fly in on the 8th, have a meeting with Ms. Manager and do the job shadowing the 9th, explore and get to know the area on the 10th, and we'll fly you back home on the 11th.

This is for a loving new grad job, I'm not some seasoned nurse that they just can't live without. Yes, it's a pretty big hospital system but I've never heard of a hospital that's willing to fly out a new grad. And if they're dropping 2k on getting me out there and suggesting that I start looking into housing, does this mean that I need to just not be a giant fuckup at the inperson stuff and I have a pretty decent chance at getting this job?

Etrips posted:

I do have a question about prioritization. Where does a patient's psychological needs fit in?

ABCs > Maslow's / Safety > Pain > *

For example (completely made up): A patient you are seeing is complaining of severe anxiety and pain.

Which would you treat first? The anxiety or pain?

Etrips posted:

I do have a question about prioritization. Where does a patient's psychological needs fit in?

ABCs > Maslow's / Safety > Pain > *

For example (completely made up): A patient you are seeing is complaining of severe anxiety and pain.

Which would you treat first? The anxiety or pain?

Hughmoris posted:

First off, congrats. If they are dropping some cash to fly you out there and put you up, and they are comfortable with you being a new grad, I'd say you are in a great position. More than likely they'll bring you out to make sure you're not completely socially awkward, and have a peer interview with the folks from the unit you'll be working on.

Just curious, what state are you currently in and which one did you apply to? When I graduated in May, I sent some random applications around the country (Wyoming and Colorado) but never heard anything back.

Hellacopter posted:

This is reassuring and I suppose I should just approach it as just a normal interview and let my winning personality shine. I suppose it's innapropriate to start asking if I'd be eligible for relocation assistance since I don't have a job offer yet? I'm from California and the hospital is in western Virginia so it'd be a big move, but it'd be one that I'd be happy to make if I had some help from them. This'd be my first real job.

Hellacopter posted:

This is reassuring and I suppose I should just approach it as just a normal interview and let my winning personality shine. I suppose it's innapropriate to start asking if I'd be eligible for relocation assistance since I don't have a job offer yet? I'm from California and the hospital is in western Virginia so it'd be a big move, but it'd be one that I'd be happy to make if I had some help from them. This'd be my first real job.

Hellacopter posted:

I'm from California and the hospital is in western Virginia so it'd be a big move,

SuzieMcAwesome posted:

My advice would be on your free day go exploring and maybe chat up some locals on what they think of the place.

SuzieMcAwesome posted:

I am from western Virginia and I would make sure that you seriously consider the area before moving. I do not know what exact area you are moving to but the general area is the poorest in the state. Jobs are scarce (even more so than the rest of the country). It is absolutely BEAUTIFUL out in that area just keep in mind that there are not a lot of opportunities in the area. If you have kids (or plan on having them) there is not much for entertainment and many of the youth end up in trouble.

My advice would be on your free day go exploring and maybe chat up some locals on what they think of the place.

Baby_Hippo posted:

Yeah it's nice that they give you a day to explore. My friend applied to hospitals in North Carolina, interviewed on Skype and got the job. The hospital didn't offer relocation assistance but they DID have two apartment complexes next to the hospital that they were contracted with, so he basically had an apartment waiting for him at reduced cost. However, once he got there he found out that the area he moved to was basically 95% retired people - not very awesome for a single 24 yr old dude.

SuzieMcAwesome posted:

I am from western Virginia and I would make sure that you seriously consider the area before moving. I do not know what exact area you are moving to but the general area is the poorest in the state. Jobs are scarce (even more so than the rest of the country). It is absolutely BEAUTIFUL out in that area just keep in mind that there are not a lot of opportunities in the area. If you have kids (or plan on having them) there is not much for entertainment and many of the youth end up in trouble.

My advice would be on your free day go exploring and maybe chat up some locals on what they think of the place.

Hellacopter posted:

I'm headed to Roanoke, is it really that bad there? I've skimmed through its page on city-data.com and it seems like the city at least isn't a total trainwreck. Virginia Tech looks like it's about an hour away in Blacksburg.

Lava Lamp posted:

. Let me know how you like it!

Hellacopter posted:

For folks who are looking into relocate, I've gotten calls about interviewing at 3 hospitals in Texas in as many weeks. They're not in a residency or new grad program (just RN I/experience preferred) positions but the doors aren't all shut there. University Medical Center of El Paso, Covenant Health in Lubbock, and Scott & White in Temple. S&W has a new grad program I think, but separate RN I positions do pop up.

Hellacopter posted:

Nope, I just have my CA license. I suspect that my resume and cover letter have a lot of keywords that HR is looking for, because because the amount of activity I've gotten off them the past few weeks is really unexpected -- I have no patient care experience, little volunteering, almost no leadership, an out of state license, and the same education as everybody else. I'm not really interested in the job but I can't afford to reject any opportunities to interview, do you want the name and phone number of the HR person that called me? She's calling for surgical unit interviews right now and maybe you can get through to her.

Hellacopter posted:

Nope, I just have my CA license. I suspect that my resume and cover letter have a lot of keywords that HR is looking for, because because the amount of activity I've gotten off them the past few weeks is really unexpected -- I have no patient care experience, little volunteering, almost no leadership, an out of state license, and the same education as everybody else. I'm not really interested in the job but I can't afford to reject any opportunities to interview, do you want the name and phone number of the HR person that called me? She's calling for surgical unit interviews right now and maybe you can get through to her.

Roki B posted:

Whats the unit you'll go into?

Baby_Hippo posted:

I would appreciate that! Would you mind giving me some tips on buzzwords for cover letter, etc? I'm sick of California and don't want to risk getting panned out of state. Ugh.

quote:

The Department of Nursing at Avera McKennan requires all nurses to practice at a The Department of Nursing at Avera McKennan requires all nurses to practice at a competent level of nursing care and demonstrate a competent and professional level of behavior in his/her role as a RN. The American Nurses Assocations (ANA) scope and standards of practice are exemplified within the position description. The Registered Nurse is responsible for utilizing the nursing process to provide nursing care for the patient. He/she assumes responsibility and accountability for his/her individual actions and outcomes of patient care delivered on his/her shift.  Graduate from a CCNE or NLN accredited nursing program is strongly preferred. Graduate from an approved nursing program is acceptable.  Bachelor's degree in nursing preferred.  Licensed as a Registered Nurse in the State of South Dakota and/or meeting the requirements of multi-state licensure required. (This may be a dealbreaker but I always apply with my out-of-state license anyway, endorsing isn't too hard if it's needed)  Strongly encouraged to complete life-saving education specific to specialty area.  Certification in specialty encouraged.  Membership in a professional organization encouraged.

quote:

Hellacopter, BSN, RN
Address • fake@email.com • 800-555-1212 • CA LIC #666666

SUMMARY
An RN that utilizes the nursing process by <words from the job posting>
that is seeking a <exact job title> position with <specific organization>.

EDUCATION
<BSN, School, City, Graduation date, GPA if >3.0, honors>
California RN License #666666, exp. 06/06/66
(I put it on because CA licenses aren't really a secret and can just be looked up by name but YMMV)
<industry certifications like BLS, ACLS>

SELECTED SKILLS
- Patient & family education
- Pre- & postoperative care
- Physical assessment
- Electronic medical records (ECHO, Meditech)
- Pain management (medications, epidural, & PCA)
- Evidence-based practice
- Interdisciplinary collaboration
- <anything specific mentioned in the job posting, I have mine in two columns so it doesn't take up a lot of space>

CLINICAL EXPERIENCE
Senior Capstone – <hours and dates>
<hospital, unit, city, state>
- Assessment: Assessed and provided preop-, postop-, and continuing care for <patients and common conditions I cared for>
- Planning: Empowered patients and their families by providing education regarding their <what I taught about>
- Implementation: <how I carried out my plan, special monitoring>
- Evaluation: Worked effectively within a multidisciplinary team to provide safe, competent, and patient centered
care. <an outcome too I suppose>

<all other clinical rotations but with no description, just hospitals, dates, and what unit I was on>

ASSOCIATIONS
<clubs/professional organizations if you're into that sort of thing>

VOLUNTEERISM
<places where I did extended volunteer work, position, with number of hours worked and dates>

WORK EXPERIENCE
<non-clinical office job>
<I don't waste space by describing my job on my resume since I feel it isn't related, but I describe it in the online applications>

Hellacopter posted:

Hellacopter posted:

I really like the OR and ICU but for different reasons. The OR is super technical with lots of fun machines and tech, and you have a whole multidisciplinary team within arms reach around the table. Downside include surgeons, standing, and that circulating can get boring. ICU also has fun machines and tech, but you spend a lot more time with your patients and if they start to head downhill there's no transferring to a higher level of care. It's a challenging environment, but it's one where I'd be pushed to learn new things all the time. It'd also open up a lot of doors because I'd like to get into the cath lab eventually and ICU experience seems to be preferred.


Okay, here's the rundown of how I do things. No idea if it'll actually be of any help but vv

I've spent a long time lurking the resume/CV thread here and the big thing they talk about is how to use words from the job posting in my summary statement at the top of the resume, so that somebody who looks at my application/resume can immediately see how I'm qualified for the job.

For example, this posting

I pick phrases and words that seem applicable and work them into my summary statement. So something like "A professional registered nurse that utilizes the nursing process to provide competent patient care and promote optimal patient outcomes that is seeking a New Grad RN position with Avara Health."

Some job postings have long lists of the skills required, like this one, so then I have a special "selected skills" section in my resume where I can put them. Most HR depts. use programs to organize and review job applications (Taleo ) and I *think* that the programs use keywords to match for relevancy.

Here's the outline of what I have on mine. I feel like there's a lot of fluff but I really don't have anything that makes me stand out from other applicants so I try to sound as professional (but not buzzwordy) as possible.


I always attach a cover letter and personalize it to the exact position at the organization I'm applying to, and make sure that it's always addressed to a real person like a nurse recruiter or the unit manager. Managers and recruiters can sometimes be found by internet detectiving them on LinkedIn. Then I talk about why I'm interested in the speciality the position is in (in my case, ICU or OR), bring up something that I learned from both my capstone and from my school, and a major project that I accomplished and the skills that it required. Then I wrap up by saying I'm available to relocate and provide my contact info.

Even though I've just written a whole wall of , this is really just my personal approach and what I've come up with through a lot of reading and tweaking. I also decided to only apply for positions that I'm genuinely interested in instead of having to fake "Experience isn't required? Oh yes I'm very interested in the family clinic. " and for whatever reason, this latest revision of my resume and CL is getting HR to call me. Maybe it's all just timing too.

EDIT: send me an email at spambotkiller1@gmail.com and I'll pass the UMC El Paso's person contact info on.

Atma McCuddles posted:

This is amazing, THANK YOU. I never considered using ADPIE as a resume tool.

Roki B posted:

Turns out thats all ADPIE is actually used for!

dissin department posted:

Stuff like this makes me wonder how different the floor will be from the classroom. I'm paying attention and taking it all in and all that, but how much of this stuff I learn will just be classroom BS that'll never come up in real life?

Dirp posted:

Had a class today where we talked about chi, energy healing, and how we should keep an open mind to alternative medicines even if there isn't an scientific evidence to support them. Her evidence for chi was that when two people rub their hands together, then place their hands close to each other without touching, it feels warm.

What is this poo poo doing in my nursing school?

Dirp posted:

Had a class today where we talked about chi, energy healing, and how we should keep an open mind to alternative medicines even if there isn't an scientific evidence to support them. Her evidence for chi was that when two people rub their hands together, then place their hands close to each other without touching, it feels warm.

What is this poo poo doing in my nursing school?

Roki B posted:

Also scooping the needle to re-cap it literally never happens.

Dirp posted:

Had a class today where we talked about chi, energy healing, and how we should keep an open mind to alternative medicines even if there isn't an scientific evidence to support them. Her evidence for chi was that when two people rub their hands together, then place their hands close to each other without touching, it feels warm.

What is this poo poo doing in my nursing school?

sewersider posted:

Is it an American thing to not include referees or is that just a privacy, shared on the internet thing? Looks good otherwise.