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Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

grover posted:

Works great for small ships, too. Catapult launch + sky hook arrested landing is a great combination when all you have is a tiny-rear end helipad. UAVs like this are a real force multiplier for anti-piracy operations, among other things.



Do we really need to multiply the force of a DDG in order for it to deal with pirates?

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wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
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Phanatic posted:

Do we really need to multiply the force of a DDG in order for it to deal with pirates?

Well, we need to increase the area it searches.

grover
Jan 23, 2002

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Phanatic posted:

Do we really need to multiply the force of a DDG in order for it to deal with pirates?
It's rather difficult for one DDG to deal with several thousand square miles of open ocean, especially when the pirates know to avoid any pirate-ish activity while within sight of a destroyer or helicopters, and then attack as soon as the DDG turns it's back.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

grover posted:

It's rather difficult for one DDG to deal with several thousand square miles of open ocean, especially when the pirates know to avoid any pirate-ish activity while within sight of a destroyer or helicopters, and then attack as soon as the DDG turns it's back.


I know, it's just a funny phrase in context. "We need a force multiplier for this cement block so I can effectively swat flies with it."

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!
A two-ship of CH-53Es just flew low over my house (for the second time today, but the first time I didn't get outside fast enough to see what was making all the noise).

They're a lot louder than I expected -- I've seen videos of them, and had lots of smaller helicopters and C-130s fly over -- but the Super Stallion has one hell of a bass note to it that doesn't come across on video.

Edit: They may have been D-models; the tails looked pretty vertical, and I was looking at the side that the E doesn't have an extra engine sticking out of. Are there any Ds still in service?

If any more go by I'll try to get a picture.

Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Oct 2, 2012

grover
Jan 23, 2002

PEW PEW PEW
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Delivery McGee posted:

A two-ship of CH-53Es just flew low over my house (for the second time today, but the first time I didn't get outside fast enough to see what was making all the noise).

They're a lot louder than I expected -- I've seen videos of them, and had lots of smaller helicopters and C-130s fly over -- but the Super Stallion has one hell of a bass note to it that doesn't come across on video.

If any more go by I'll try to get a picture.
I heard a story once about CH-46 pilots loving with marines disembarking from LHDs at Rota Spain by doing slow pier fly-bys and using their rotor wash to kick up spray all over the pier, soaking all the poor grunts. Well, a CH-53 pilot, not to be outdone, did the same... except instead of just kicking up water, it blew half the marine's poo poo off the pier and into the drink!

53s are motherfucking huge and powerful. Little known fact: the single rotor on a CH-53E is wider tip-to-tip than an MV-22 osprey.

grover fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Oct 2, 2012

dr cum patrol esq
Sep 3, 2003

A C A B

:350:
Scan Eagle mostly deploys on LSDs not DDGs.

They do have their uses. However, they don't prevent piracy but they're good for overbearing pirated vessels.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Delivery McGee posted:

A two-ship of CH-53Es just flew low over my house (for the second time today, but the first time I didn't get outside fast enough to see what was making all the noise).

They're a lot louder than I expected -- I've seen videos of them, and had lots of smaller helicopters and C-130s fly over -- but the Super Stallion has one hell of a bass note to it that doesn't come across on video.

About 11 or 12 years ago I was walking to work across Albert Bridge in London, and an MH-53 was doing circuits between Albert and Chelsea Bridges, over the Thames. The odd thing was, unless it was it's closest point to me, it was completely silent. Never figured out why an MH-53 would be flying silently in circles above the Thames but I must have watched it for about 10 minutes.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

grover posted:

Well, a CH-53 pilot, not to be outdone, did the same... except instead of just kicking up water, it blew half the marine's poo poo off the pier and into the drink!


One of my cow orkers once flipped a truck with his rotor wash. They were doing some sort of landing rotation near a road in Vietnam, and the traffic cops had blocked the road. One truck driver said "gently caress this I have a schedule to keep" (Or whatever the Vietnamese equivalent is) and went around the cop and down the road and then off the road and into a ditch.


Just Pretending by Phanatic, on Flickr


Helpful Hints by Phanatic, on Flickr

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?

grover posted:

I heard a story once about CH-46 pilots loving with marines disembarking from LHDs at Rota Spain by doing slow pier fly-bys and using their rotor wash to kick up spray all over the pier, soaking all the poor grunts. Well, a CH-53 pilot, not to be outdone, did the same... except instead of just kicking up water, it blew half the marine's poo poo off the pier and into the drink!

53s are motherfucking huge and powerful. Little known fact: the single rotor on a CH-53E is wider tip-to-tip than an MV-22 osprey.

My dad was a flew 53's in the Airforce. I remember seeing 5-6 53's in formation all the time and once around 10-12 (Early/mid 90s), the sound was awesome. A fun story he told me about.

http://www2.hurlburt.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123016067

quote:

The new plan called for four PAVE LOWs to escort eight Army Apaches into Iraq using their advanced terrain-following, terrain-avoidance radars and then have the attack helicopters destroy two radar sites with Hellfire missiles.
...
The PAVE LOW crews strung together chemical lights and dropped them out the back of the aircraft at certain points, said Colonel Kingsley. When the Apaches got over the lights, they then updated their systems.

Capslock theirs. I'd love to hear the genesis of that plan 'What if we just threw glow sticks out the back, and you looked for them?'

Nerobro
Nov 4, 2005

Rider now with 100% more titanium!
Well that was a wake up call. I thought the Chinook was a heavy lift helicopter. it can only fly about half as much weight as the Jolly... Wow.

grover
Jan 23, 2002

PEW PEW PEW
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Nerobro posted:

Well that was a wake up call. I thought the Chinook was a heavy lift helicopter. it can only fly about half as much weight as the Jolly... Wow.
Though they look superficially similar, CH-46 (Sea Knight) is about half the size and capacity as a CH-47 (Chinook). The Chinook is very much a heavy lift helicopter, with more capacity than a CH-53/CH-53D, though less than the CH-53E (with a third engine and 7th rotor blade), which just has a massive amount of lift capacity.

CH-46 Sea Knight:


CH-47 Chinook:


CH-53D Sea Stallion/HH-53 Super Jolly Green Giant


CH-53E Super Sea Stallion

grover fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Oct 2, 2012

ehnus
Apr 16, 2003

Now you're thinking with portals!
C-130 refuelling two CH-53E's that are each carrying 2 Humvee's



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Boomerjinks
Jan 31, 2007

DINO DAMAGE


quote:

On 19 August 2002, Chechen separatists hit an overloaded Mi-26 with a surface to air missile, causing it to crash-land in a minefield and killing 127 of the people on board.

:stonk:

Not to mention the Mi-6 and the Mi-10, or the V-12.

Boomerjinks fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Oct 3, 2012

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

Boomerjinks posted:




:stonk:

Not to mention the Mi-6 and the Mi-6, or the V-12.

You don't get an impression of just how big the Mi-6/Mi-26 really is until you see it in person; with rotors turning, it's basically the same length as a Boeing 737-900, and it weighs about as much as one too.

rcman50166
Mar 23, 2010

by XyloJW
I got this image a while ago from this thread and ended up using it as a desktop for a while. I touched it up a little because all of the rips and folds in the original scan annoyed the crap out of me. I was cleaning up some folders and figured I should add it here before deleting it. Just in case.


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rcman50166 fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Oct 3, 2012

Ola
Jul 19, 2004



"Your smog test results are in. I...I think you better sit down."

Ridge_Runner_5
May 26, 2011

by Y Kant Ozma Post

Delivery McGee posted:

A two-ship of CH-53Es just flew low over my house (for the second time today, but the first time I didn't get outside fast enough to see what was making all the noise).

They're a lot louder than I expected -- I've seen videos of them, and had lots of smaller helicopters and C-130s fly over -- but the Super Stallion has one hell of a bass note to it that doesn't come across on video.

Edit: They may have been D-models; the tails looked pretty vertical, and I was looking at the side that the E doesn't have an extra engine sticking out of. Are there any Ds still in service?

If any more go by I'll try to get a picture.

Got buzzed a couple years ago by a pair. They came in slow and maybe 250ft off the ground. The walls in my house were shaking when they went over.

ApathyGifted
Aug 30, 2004
Tomorrow?

Ridge_Runner_5 posted:

Got buzzed a couple years ago by a pair. They came in slow and maybe 250ft off the ground. The walls in my house were shaking when they went over.

My house got buzzed by a ch-53 when i was a kid. Later that day there was a 3.0 earthquake (my first, living on the east coast and all). I thought the big helicopter came by again, just not as close that time.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

MrChips posted:

You don't get an impression of just how big the Mi-6/Mi-26 really is until you see it in person; with rotors turning, it's basically the same length as a Boeing 737-900, and it weighs about as much as one too.

The Mi-26 is scary big, it's ridiculous, it looks like a loving movie prop more than a real thing.

If you're standing by a Chinook, you can walk up to it and look directly into the chin windows in the cockpit. When I tried that with a -26, I could stand, raise my arm up, and touch the chin with my outstretched fingers.

Then I walked into the pilot's office and saw on their maintenance greaseboard that they'd managed to put about 750 flight hours on each of their airframes since they got them in the 1980s. Colombia's got real flying 234s with more than 15,000 hours on the airframes. The maintenance and operating cost on those things has got to be unreal. I saw two turn rotors while I was there (India). One taxied out onto the runway, sat there turning for about 20 minutes, and then came back in. The other took off, flew around for about 20 minutes, and then came back in.

D C
Jun 20, 2004

1-800-HOTLINEBLING
1-800-HOTLINEBLING
1-800-HOTLINEBLING

LobsterboyX posted:

The DC-3 is such a beautiful airplane, in so many ways.

I wish I could show you guys the DC-3 footage I shot on Sunday.

So sweet.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

ApathyGifted posted:

My house got buzzed by a ch-53 when i was a kid. Later that day there was a 3.0 earthquake (my first, living on the east coast and all). I thought the big helicopter came by again, just not as close that time.

How'd they make the Pave Lows so quiet?

brains
May 12, 2004

Phanatic posted:

The Mi-26 is scary big, it's ridiculous, it looks like a loving movie prop more than a real thing.

Paul Boz_
Dec 21, 2003

Sin City
I need more Zeppelins so I satisfied my desires.



[edit] and apparently my jazz man statue looks like slender man. Great.

Paul Boz_ fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Oct 4, 2012

GTi
Feb 1, 2006
16 valves of fury
So I'm going to be flying on this on Sunday



3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.
Man, look at all that oil leaking out.

Also, I hate you.

Powercube
Nov 23, 2006

I don't like that dude... I don't like THAT DUDE!
Huh, seems I found myself at TNCM:

N881NN and some water. by Powercube, on Flickr


PJ-DAC by Powercube, on Flickr


PJ-MDE by Powercube, on Flickr

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

Stayed at that hotel and took many, many photos including video with a 737 blasting my rear end.

Hotel wasn't the best, but the scenery was awesome in many ways :D

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


I hear the mountains are gorgeous.

Powercube
Nov 23, 2006

I don't like that dude... I don't like THAT DUDE!
TNCM is too mainstream, here's TFFJ


F-OIXJ by Powercube, on Flickr

VP-AAA crossing into land by Powercube, on Flickr

PJ-WII with a wing over my head by Powercube, on Flickr

2ndclasscitizen
Jan 2, 2009

by Y Kant Ozma Post

*clonk*

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe
Flight of the SU-25UB

Sturmovik :black101:

Dudeabides
Jul 26, 2009

"You better not buy me that goddamn tourist av"

Are there any goons in San Francisco for Fleet Week? The air show has been quite good.

Cygni
Nov 12, 2005

raring to post


Love that the description calls the SU-25 a 'light attack' aircraft.

If the SU-25 is LIGHT attack, with its 11 hard points and 10k lb ordnance load, is heavy attack just a nuke?

Blacknose
Jul 28, 2006

Meet frustration face to face
A point of view creates more waves
So lose some sleep and say you tried
Heavy attack is when Lenin rises from his grave, punches you in the face and starts full communism.

Styles Bitchley
Nov 13, 2004

FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN FOR THE WIN
CH-53E is indeed a beast, but just wait for the CH-53K

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_CH-53K

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Styles Bitchley posted:

CH-53E is indeed a beast, but just wait for the CH-53K

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_CH-53K

The CH-53K: Because congress will only allocate funding if it looks like the same aircraft, regardless of the fact that it is almost a clean-sheet design.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
Stick with what works.

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

MrYenko posted:

The CH-53K: Because congress will only allocate funding if it looks like the same aircraft, regardless of the fact that it is almost a clean-sheet design.

Godholio posted:

Stick with what works.


Or not.

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Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
I actually meant politically, but good point.

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