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ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Daric posted:

I read the Iron Druid series and the Rivers of London series because of this thread. Both are really good. I'm also working my way through the Garrett P.I. series which is merely ok but still entertaining.

I really couldn't get into the Laundry Files. Maybe I'll go back and try again after Cold Days but we'll see.

But man, Rivers of London is soooo good. I love the Dresden Files, they're still my favorite series, but the Rivers of London series has so much soul it's incredible.

The first quarter or third of the first Laundry Files book is...not fun to read.

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Zola
Jul 22, 2005

What do you mean "impossible"? You're so
cruel, Roger Smith...

ConfusedUs posted:


All that said, that's not what I hated about Backup. I hated Backup because Thomas was essentially Harry for the book. Same tricks. Same inner monologue. Same result.

The only good part about Backup is seeing Harry from an outside PoV. He's loving weird.

This was also my objection--if I didn't keep reminding myself it was Thomas, I kept thinking it was Harry.

calandryll
Apr 25, 2003

Ask me where I do my best drinking!



Pillbug

ConfusedUs posted:

The first quarter or third of the first Laundry Files book is...not fun to read.

That would explain why I just stopped reading. I'll try to trudge through it then.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

ConfusedUs posted:

I'm about to get a $2k bonus from work...

You still would have been $1,525 short :stare:.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





I wish I had that kind of cash to throw around. Jesus.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


calandryll posted:

That would explain why I just stopped reading. I'll try to trudge through it then.

You aren't alone. I'm finding it kind of bleh to read too. But if it gets better I guess I can try and trudge through it.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

ConfusedUs posted:

I wish I had that kind of cash to throw around. Jesus.

It's not just about the money. I have the money. What I don't have is a wife who understands why purchasing a book for $3.5k (as a mostly tax deductible donation, even!) is a good idea :v:.

why oh WHY
Apr 25, 2012

So like I said, not my fault. Nobody can judge me for it.
But, yeah...
Okay.
I admit it.
Human teenager Rainbow Dash was hot!

Ornamented Death posted:

It's not just about the money. I have the money. What I don't have is a wife who understands why purchasing a book for $3.5k (as a mostly tax deductible donation, even!) is a good idea :v:.

If you loved the Dresden Files you would have convinced your wife. :colbert:

Then sent it to me.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

why oh WHY posted:

If you loved the Dresden Files you would have convinced your wife. :colbert:

Then sent it to me.

She already puts up with me getting the SubPress editions, so I didn't want to push my luck.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend

Tornhelm posted:

Since certain people want to get into a pissing match about which author is better, here's an incomplete list of some of the authors the thread has recommended. In alphabetical order, because thats the way my Calibre library is organized, we have:

Ben Aaronovitch - Rivers of London
Patricia Briggs - Mercy Thompson
Jim Butcher - Codex Alera (if you haven't read that yet too - its the Romans meet Pokemon)
Trudi Canavan - Age of the Five/Black Magician/Traitor Spy
Mike Carey - Felix Castor
Harry Connolly - Twenty Palaces
Larry Correia - Monster Hunter International
Christopher Farnsworth - Nathaniel Cade (President's Vampire)
Kevin Hearne - Iron Druid Chronicles
Richard Kadrey - Sandman Slim
John Levitt - Dog Days
Daniel O'Malley - The Rook
Brandon Sanderson - Mistborn/The Stormlight Archive
Charles Stross - Laundry Files/Merchant Princes

All of the series above are varying degrees of good and are pretty readable - the only exceptions are the Felix Castor, Sandman Slim and Merchant Princes series which do have a noticably darker tone than everything else on that list.

I was looking through this list and saw that Sandman Slim is currently $1 on the Kindle. I thought others might be interested in that as well.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Len posted:

You aren't alone. I'm finding it kind of bleh to read too. But if it gets better I guess I can try and trudge through it.

You know how milk gets kinda nasty if you leave it in the fridge too long? And how it'll get nasty real fast if you leave it on the counter all day?

The first Laundry book is like that, but backwards. It starts sour and ends well.

The second book has one of the best plot devices I've ever encountered in a book. It's very clever and well done. I was literally chortling when I figured it out--which I didn't do until about ten pages before it was revealed anyway.

Yes, I chortle. Sue me.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





EC posted:

I was looking through this list and saw that Sandman Slim is currently $1 on the Kindle. I thought others might be interested in that as well.

The first book is pretty fun, if you like over-the-top gritty noir trappings. Remember the Max Payne games? The title character's inner monologue is just like that.

I hated the second book.

The third one was great but I didn't like the climax, which was a muddled mess. You'd think things would get more interesting when the main character goes to hell to assassinate his arch enemy, but instead the book got lost.

SlaveTrader
Jan 12, 2003

*sigh* Those were the days...

ConfusedUs posted:

The first book is pretty fun, if you like over-the-top gritty noir trappings. Remember the Max Payne games? The title character's inner monologue is just like that.

I hated the second book.

The third one was great but I didn't like the climax, which was a muddled mess. You'd think things would get more interesting when the main character goes to hell to assassinate his arch enemy, but instead the book got lost.

At least the assassination part was pretty drat awesome. The 4th book where Stark is the new Lucifer and is almost turning emo about it is starting out pretty meh, as well.

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012
I agree with the Thomas hate. To be honest, even though I really like Harry as a character, Butcher isn't really good at characterization in general. This is especially obvious in Codex Alera; Tavi is a Shonen Jump protagonist except smart, Kitai is from the same anime as Tavi and voiced by Rie Kugimiya, Bernard and Amara become intolerably saccharine whenever they're "onscreen" together, and something feels off about Isana's internal monologue that I can't put my finger on.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Silver2195 posted:

I agree with the Thomas hate. To be honest, even though I really like Harry as a character, Butcher isn't really good at characterization in general. This is especially obvious in Codex Alera; Tavi is a Shonen Jump protagonist except smart, Kitai is from the same anime as Tavi and voiced by Rie Kugimiya, Bernard and Amara become intolerably saccharine whenever they're "onscreen" together, and something feels off about Isana's internal monologue that I can't put my finger on.

Because Isana is a lying, conniving, backstabbing, horrible excuse for a person who deserves none of the happiness she receives.

Her goody goody internal monologue is at direct odds with her actions.

From her first chapter I felt she needed a good rear end kicking and I still felt that way at the end of the series.

Clinton1011
Jul 11, 2007
I was re-watching the Story Board that Patrick Rothfuss does and he had Jim as a guest on the first one. During the video they are discussing real world research and started talking about how you have to try and remember all this information that seems useless at the time but can come in handy in the future. Jim mentions watching a show about a Greek god then mentioned the Spear of Destiny. With all the other artifacts from the Crucifixion and the events surrounding it in the story I don't know how I forgot about the weapon that actually killed Christ. I wonder when that will come into play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52khu_YJAmo

Edit: Actually I just read up some on the Spear of Destiny and it turns out they just stabbed him with it to make sure he was dead. I guess it might not play as big of a role as I thought.

Clinton1011 fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Oct 5, 2012

404GoonNotFound
Aug 6, 2006

The McRib is back!?!?
Wow, Rothfuss looks pretty much exactly how you expect him to.

Also, figures Jim would play the cleric. drat powergamer :argh:

why oh WHY
Apr 25, 2012

So like I said, not my fault. Nobody can judge me for it.
But, yeah...
Okay.
I admit it.
Human teenager Rainbow Dash was hot!
I'm currently reading Grave Peril and I Ferrovax is a lot more badass than I remember. I really hope Ferrovax is the immortal Harry has to kill in Cold Days.

404GoonNotFound
Aug 6, 2006

The McRib is back!?!?

why oh WHY posted:

I'm currently reading Grave Peril and I Ferrovax is a lot more badass than I remember. I really hope Ferrovax is the immortal Harry has to kill in Cold Days.

Keep in mind that he's been implied by Butcher to be a primal force of nature. There's a pretty good chance that killing him would usher in a new ice age.

...oh god Mab's crazy enough to do it :ohdear:

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!
Ferrovax is basically Weird Earth's magnetic field incarnate?

Wolpertinger
Feb 16, 2011
I don't suppose anyone's managed to find those Cold Days sample chapters up on the internet anywhere? I'm not rich enough to buy a paperback just for two sample chapters :(.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Wolpertinger posted:

I don't suppose anyone's managed to find those Cold Days sample chapters up on the internet anywhere? I'm not rich enough to buy a paperback just for two sample chapters :(.

Check your local grocery stores. Dresden is popular enough that the little book stands at grocery stores/walmarts seem to always have the latest paperbacks on the shelf, and I doubt anyone would mind you reading the Cold Days chapters out of the back, setting the book down and leaving.

veekie
Dec 25, 2007

Dice of Chaos

Wolpertinger posted:

I don't suppose anyone's managed to find those Cold Days sample chapters up on the internet anywhere? I'm not rich enough to buy a paperback just for two sample chapters :(.

There's one on Pastebin somewhere.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Or just wait a few weeks and they'll start appearing on Butcher's website.

Wolpertinger
Feb 16, 2011

veekie posted:

There's one on Pastebin somewhere.

Ah found it, appreciate it. Dammit, cuts off just when it starts to get interesting. Can't wait 'till it comes out.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER

Wolpertinger posted:

Ah found it, appreciate it. Dammit, cuts off just when it starts to get interesting. Can't wait 'till it comes out.

Yeah I'm looking forward to this one a lot more than I did Ghost Story.
Because Mab is scary. And awesome.

Dr. MonkeyThunder
Sep 21, 2005

All is, if i have grace to use it so...
I'm more looking forward to "buddy cop" hijinks with his new Cat Sith malk partner.

It's almost like teaming him up with Evil Bob.

why oh WHY
Apr 25, 2012

So like I said, not my fault. Nobody can judge me for it.
But, yeah...
Okay.
I admit it.
Human teenager Rainbow Dash was hot!

404GoonNotFound posted:

Keep in mind that he's been implied by Butcher to be a primal force of nature. There's a pretty good chance that killing him would usher in a new ice age.

...oh god Mab's crazy enough to do it :ohdear:

I know, it's a loving amazing idea. Unfortunately I think butcher is going to hold Ferrovax as an ace in the hole because any book he is in is instantaneously made even more amazing and so far it doesn't seem like Cold Days needs any help being more awesome.

VanSandman
Feb 16, 2011
SWAP.AVI EXCHANGER
I assume we can talk about recommended books as well here? Because I just need to say that Felix Castor is such a weenie.
Just the biggest weenie.
Edit: Ok he finally does get over that weenieness in the end.

VanSandman fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Oct 7, 2012

fermun
Nov 4, 2009
I saw this on Kevin Hearne's Twitter feed:


At a book signing, someone brought him a package of smoked chicken and apple sausages to sign. If you haven't read the Iron Druid books, the Iron Druid in question gives his dog chicken and apple sausages pretty frequently, they are referenced a couple times per book.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





fermun posted:

I saw this on Kevin Hearne's Twitter feed:


At a book signing, someone brought him a package of smoked chicken and apple sausages to sign. If you haven't read the Iron Druid books, the Iron Druid in question gives his dog chicken and apple sausages pretty frequently, they are referenced a couple times per book.

And here I thought they were a thing that didn't really exist.

That's pretty awesome.

Daric
Dec 23, 2007

Shawn:
Do you really want to know my process?

Lassiter:
Absolutely.

Shawn:
Well it starts with a holla! and ends with a Creamsicle.

ConfusedUs posted:

And here I thought they were a thing that didn't really exist.

That's pretty awesome.

Oh man, if you haven't had chicken and apple sausages you should really try some. They're delicious.

Dr. MonkeyThunder
Sep 21, 2005

All is, if i have grace to use it so...
I just did the bare minimum bit of research about that first chapter and the Cat Sith was believed to be the king of all cats in old Scotland including Kellas Cats, a hybrid of house cats and mountain lions, the likely basis of Malks. He was also believed to steal the souls of the dead, if they were not watched over before burial.


I can't make a link because of :filez: but it's not that hard to find the first chapter now.

Clinton1011
Jul 11, 2007
A bit of speculation about the preview chapter.

At the end of the chapter Harry is heading to a celebration of Birth. How long as it been since he slept with Mab? Harry thinks he was in the comma for quite a few months and some time had passed between Harry's death and his soul going back to his body.

why oh WHY
Apr 25, 2012

So like I said, not my fault. Nobody can judge me for it.
But, yeah...
Okay.
I admit it.
Human teenager Rainbow Dash was hot!

Clinton1011 posted:

A bit of speculation about the preview chapter.

At the end of the chapter Harry is heading to a celebration of Birth. How long as it been since he slept with Mab? Harry thinks he was in the comma for quite a few months and some time had passed between Harry's death and his soul going back to his body.

Oh god... OH GOD RUN!

404GoonNotFound
Aug 6, 2006

The McRib is back!?!?

Dr. MonkeyThunder posted:

I just did the bare minimum bit of research about that first chapter and the Cat Sith was believed to be the king of all cats

Mister would probably disagree with this.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



why oh WHY posted:

Oh god... OH GOD RUN!

He... was in stasis for about six months until the events of ghost story.


He's doomed.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Jim continues taking it easy this year, only having four stops on the Cold Days signing tour.

why oh WHY
Apr 25, 2012

So like I said, not my fault. Nobody can judge me for it.
But, yeah...
Okay.
I admit it.
Human teenager Rainbow Dash was hot!

Ornamented Death posted:

Jim continues taking it easy this year, only having four stops on the Cold Days signing tour.

Why the hell can't he do an ask me anything on SA instead of loving Reddit that kiddie porn peddling piece of poo poo website?

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Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



why oh WHY posted:

Why the hell can't he do an ask me anything on SA instead of loving Reddit that kiddie porn peddling piece of poo poo website?

Because if you get bored reading the AMA questions you can drop in to r/gonewild to rejuvenate yourself.

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