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Oct 8, 2012 02:49
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Guernica is tacitly ugly and hard to look at, but it is one of my favorite works of art because it is such a great representation of what it is depicting.
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Oct 8, 2012 02:54
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Coatlicue posted:Guernica, 1937, Pablo Picasso I had to good fortune to see a preparatory drawing of this when the Picasso exhibit visited the Seattle Art Museum. One of the very few times I have literally been moved to tears by an artwork. Since we're posting art, here's Franz Marc's The fate of the Animals from 1913  Franz Marc posted:It is like a premonition of this war, horrible and gripping; I can hardly believe that I painted it!...It is artistically logical to paint such pictures before wars, not as dumb reminiscences afterward... He was later killed in the Battle of Verdun.
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Oct 8, 2012 02:55
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I love PBS and I don't even live in America. Why in the gently caress would you ever want to cut it? I guess because uneducated voters are more easily swayed by formless arguments and made up numbers, hence why the Republicans (And right wing scumbags in general) want teachers hauled out into the street and beaten for daring to be the most valuable profession in the loving world. 
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Oct 8, 2012 03:28
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Humboldt squid posted:I had to good fortune to see a preparatory drawing of this when the Picasso exhibit visited the Seattle Art Museum. One of the very few times I have literally been moved to tears by an artwork. Yesss, Tierschicksale is one of my favourite paintings.  Gunship, by John O. Wehrle, a member of the Vietnam Combat Artists Program.
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Oct 8, 2012 04:13
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Oct 8, 2012 04:15
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Avocado Goodguy posted:
Man, I hate energy drinks, but I would buy the poo poo out of those.    
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Oct 8, 2012 04:27
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Rent-A-Cop posted:But the hilt and guard are yellow too.  At least they could joke about it. Right?
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Oct 8, 2012 05:41
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HoveringCheesecake posted:
The troops who staff the nuke-firing control rooms are intentionally some of the most patriotic, unexamined and outright unthinking people they can find. They do not want anyone who will even consider hesitating when given the order to fire; they want someone just smart enough to work the machines and just dumb enough to do so reliably. So the fact that the people they employ have that sense of humour doesn't surprise me. On the other hand, at least the end of the world will be pretty: 
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Oct 8, 2012 05:47
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OLIVIAS WILDE RIDER posted:I love PBS and I don't even live in America. Why in the gently caress would you ever want to cut it? Because letting the government run or spend money on anything (except the military) is a Bad Thing. The majority of Americans support it though, so I don't even know how that came up. Picture: 
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Oct 8, 2012 05:55
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Earth posted:I like to think this person is talking about abstract art and the ilk of stuff like "Black Square," and not people like van Gogh. Current movement in vogue, and I personally hate this movement. If someone invites me to an art museum my first question is "do they have an abstract art exhibit?" If that's their only exhibit I decline. Also, http://www.buzzfeed.com/violas94/modern-art-anyone-could-have-done. "Oh but if anyone could do it, why didn't you?," they ask. My answer? "Because it's ugly." Here is some ugly poo poo for you to look at. HUGE POINTLESS SQUARES   RETARDS CAN DO THIS  
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Oct 8, 2012 06:01
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Krabsworth posted:Here is some ugly poo poo for you to look at. Yes, but can retards market themselves as having talent? No? Then it's not art.  
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Oct 8, 2012 06:03
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Krabsworth posted:Here is some ugly poo poo for you to look at. 
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Oct 8, 2012 06:08
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Krabsworth posted:Here is some ugly poo poo for you to look at.    POLITICAL! 
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Oct 8, 2012 06:34
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Krabsworth posted:Here is some ugly poo poo for you to look at. Do you think you could do better? 
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Oct 8, 2012 07:06
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Exclamation Marx posted:Do you think you could do better? I don't have to be a chef to tell if the steak is bad. 
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Oct 8, 2012 07:41
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Krabsworth posted:Here is some ugly poo poo for you to look at.  "I don't understand it, must be stupid" is out in full force. Just because you don't "get" Mark Rothko, doesn't mean No.14 is a huge pointless square. Babylon Astronaut fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Oct 8, 2012 |
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Oct 8, 2012 08:08
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Armyman25 posted:I don't have to be a chef to tell if the steak is bad. But someone on the internet will point out you opinion is wrong because of Reasons. 
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Oct 8, 2012 08:10
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Babylon Astronaut posted:"I don't understand it, must be stupid" is out in full force. Just because you don't "get" Mark Rothko, doesn't mean No.14 is a huge pointless square. On the other hand, literally any art can be defended by claiming those who don't like it are too stupid to get it.  American soldiers in 1968 during the occupation of Washington, D.C.
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Oct 8, 2012 08:30
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Armyman25 posted:I don't have to be a chef to tell if the steak is bad. That analogy doesn't quite work since the argument here is more like "A child could cook that".  
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Oct 8, 2012 08:38
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Chamale posted:On the other hand, literally any art can be defended by claiming those who don't like it are too stupid to get it. No one who knows poo poo about art (or arguing) would ever use that line of reasoning. Except for maybe this rear end in a top hat:  gently caress Michael Fried. e: I should clarify as far as what "knowing poo poo about art" means - you won't find any art historian or academic who has earned a modicum of respect using that line of reasoning, with the possible exception of Michael Fried, because he's a dickhead (also, his theories have been widely dismissed and are generally used as an example of what opposition to minimalism looked like in minimalism's nascency). And if you dismiss the idea that art historians/academics are the ultimate authority, well, the only artists (at least in the 20th century) who were really in line with that idea strove to create an art that was so immediate that it was fully understandable and appreciable by even the most uncultured observer, so the "those who don't like it are too stupid to get it" idea doesn't really fly there either. a false fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Oct 8, 2012 |
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Oct 8, 2012 08:40
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A big part of it is how temporal that poo poo is. Once it was shocking and challenging poo poo, now it is an accepted part of visual culture and almost boring.
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Oct 8, 2012 08:43
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a false posted:No one who knows poo poo about art (or arguing) would ever use that line of reasoning. OK, I don't know much about modern art and I was simply responding to someone who was using that line of reasoning. 
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Oct 8, 2012 08:52
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Chamale posted:On the other hand, literally any art can be defended by claiming those who don't like it are too stupid to get it. But alas, I was just stating that referring to highly regarded modern art as stupid is less as statement about the artist than it is a statement about the commenter. 
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Oct 8, 2012 08:57
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Chamale posted:OK, I don't know much about modern art and I was simply responding to someone who was using that line of reasoning. This looks like a Shel Silverstein illustration 
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Oct 8, 2012 09:01
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Chamale posted:OK, I don't know much about modern art and I was simply responding to someone who was using that line of reasoning. I wasn't indicting you, I was just saying that although that argument can be used, it's not likely to be used, not by anyone worth listening to anyway.  Alighiero Boetti, Mappa "For me the work of the embroidered Mappa is the maximum of beauty. For that work I did nothing, chose nothing in the sense that: the world is made as it is, not as I designed it. The flags are those that exist, and I did not design them; in short I did absolutely nothing; when the basic idea, the concept, emerges everything else requires no choosing."
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Oct 8, 2012 09:22
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That's my desktop wallpaper   "Mr Sutcliffe told police: "I drove to Leeds to find a prostitute to make it one less. I saw this girl and she got in without a word. I told her that I may not have wanted her but she told me she would give me a good time. I drove her to a park and she wanted to go to the toilet. They were locked so she decided to urinate on the grass. I used the hammer and a Stanley knife on her. As she was crouching down urinating on the grass I hit her on the head at least two or three times. I lifted up her clothes and slashed her abdomen and throat." Mr Sutcliffe also told police he left the murder scene after he heard voices, but couldn't tell where they came from. He also heard a car being driven away from the entrance to a house. Later he found out that the house was where disc jockey Jimmy Savile lived." http://www.execulink.com/~kbrannen/trial03.htm
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Oct 8, 2012 09:24
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Lots of poo poo art ITT. Here's a quote about poo poo musicTheodor W. Adorno posted:The aim of jazz is the mechanical reproduction of a regressive moment, a castration symbolism. 'Give up your masculinity, let yourself be castrated,' the eunuchlike sound of the jazz band both mocks and proclaims, 'and you will be rewarded, accepted into a fraternity which shares the mystery of impotence with you, a mystery revealed at the moment of the initiation rite. 
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Oct 8, 2012 10:57
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ekuNNN posted:Man, I hate energy drinks, but I would buy the poo poo out of those. Are you making GBS threads me? You don't see a tiny little problem of commodification here? 
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Oct 8, 2012 13:42
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ekuNNN posted:Man, I hate energy drinks, but I would buy the poo poo out of those.      
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Oct 8, 2012 13:58
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Art! "Still life in oil" - Daniel Beltra          Orange Devil posted:Are you making GBS threads me? You don't see a tiny little problem of commodification here? That's why they're hilarious gifts for every socialist you know  Also, it's not as if this is the commodification of Ché Guevara that will suddenly destroy his image or ideas. If you think that would be the problem then that ship has sailed long ago.  Some more drinks:  
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Oct 8, 2012 15:17
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midnightclimax posted:
 That's horrible. More horrible marketing:   
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midnightclimax posted:
Capitalism Ruins Everything. 
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David Simon's The Corner articulated a point that I think is often lost, which is that welfare programs are basically the bribe we pay to not have to give a poo poo about the poor. It's carefully just enough that people can exist on it (not really "live") but not enough, and importantly not paired with the other kinds of support and reform our ghettos and cities need, to enable people to break out of poverty, addiction and desperation.
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